Microsoft's online store now selling PCs and third party apps

Aubrey (Cornerstone member):

I wonder if they'd sell me a Dell Linux netbook or a machine with Google Chrome pre-installed instead of IE? prolly not.

BrownieBoy (User):

When I looked in Harvey Norman yesterday, a single copy of Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade was $200 (Australian dollars, that is). That's more than the cost of the Family Pack (three licences) on the US Store!

Amazingly, enough, it didn't appear to be flying off the shelves while I was there.

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting BrownieBoy:
Amazingly, enough, it didn't appear to be flying off the shelves while I was there.

We are shipping truckloads of Win7 this morning via net orders. Do that and you won't be paying $200.00

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Do that and you won't be paying $200.00

Much more saving than you offer, can be achieved by implementing the Raindog approach which will realise saving of the full $200.00. :>

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Raindog:
the Raindog approach

And what is that Raindog? .... Waiting for someone to develop the 'perfect' OS while you apply cpr to XP?

Spread your wings and give it a go, Win7 is quite good :)

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
And what is that Raindog?

Oh it's easy, it's called price/performance evaluation. All you have to do is isolate what the $200 offering will do that others cannot, then work out all the associated costs with adpoting the $200 solution, take tha total tost and consider it against what new can be achieved. When the cost and associated costs are high and the "what new can be done" list is tiny, then the decision is easy.


Quoting Me In Oz:
Waiting for someone to develop the 'perfect' OS

Only fools and wide eyed fan-boys would think such a thing was even possible.


Quoting Me In Oz:
while you apply cpr to XP

No CPR, required XP, 2K, NIX and BSD all performing the tasks they have been applied to with-out issue. New task new evaluation, simple really. Only people with way too much time buy a PC or OS and then try think of things to do just to utilise it.


Quoting Me In Oz:
Spread your wings and give it a go

Um why? You haven't told me what the hell new it will do that is worth your discounted $200 yet. And I already know the $200 varient will be entirely inadequate for any task I was likely to require.


Quoting Me In Oz:
.... is quite good

I'm sure Proton Jumbuck salespeople say that about their wares too, when they have a jard full to shift.

Aubrey (Cornerstone member):

Quoting BrownieBoy:
That's more than the cost of the Family Pack (three licences) on the US Store!


I don't get commercial software pricing at all - MS, Adobe, Norton, the lot of them. Officially, they go on about recovering development costs, volume discounts and local support (whatever that is) but when they can show that sort of variation between very similar products in similar countries, I suspect it is more about what the suckers are prepared to pay and how much the company really wants your business. The difference in licensing cost between OEM XP on a desktop and on a netbook is several hundred percent.

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Aubrey:
I don't get commercial software pricing at all

It's easy, it's called greed :)

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
It's easy, it's called greed

Stupidity reliant greed to be exact. The long term problem being that while there is no sign of stupidity vanishing, the stupidity is usaully associated with a grab bag of unrealistic expectations and ultimate end user dissapointment.

Stupidity can be fickle, only fools rely on stupidity alone for the continued satiation of their greed.

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

FYI:

Here in Qld, you can get Win7 Home Premium 32-Bit OEM DVD version for $118.00 with any hardware purchased. Can anyone find cheaper?

Start Googling :)

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Here in Qld

explains much :>



Quoting Me In Oz:
you can get Win7 Home Premium

Of course what sensible consumers have to realise is that whenever the word home is included in a Windows version name the premium bit is the bit you pay to later upgrade (ie purchase again) to a non crippled version. Bargain, eh!

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Raindog:
Of course what sensible consumers

Yes! But you don't make any money from sensible consumers.

Quoting Raindog:
Bargain, eh!

$118 to upgrade is a bargain, yes.

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Yes! But you don't make any money from sensible consumers.

You mightn't. The only customers I retain are the sensible ones. Did you know that when you on a gig that's too good to be true, that usually is the end result?


Quoting Me In Oz:
$118 to upgrade is a bargain, yes.

only if it offered me greater than $118 worth of benefit. Where's the benefit?

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Raindog:
The only customers I retain are the sensible ones.

In this economic climate, you get to 'choose' your customers?
I'm impressed at your indispensibility ;)

Quoting Raindog:
Wher's the benefit?

It will never be a benefit to someone who still thinks they can do everything today using DOS 6.22

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
In this economic climate, you get to 'choose' your customers?

Uh-huh. Crisis what crisis


Quoting Me In Oz:
I'm impressed at your indispensibility

cash donations can be sent c/o APC marked Pls forward to Raindog ASAP. :>


Quoting Me In Oz:
It will never be a benefit to someone who still thinks they can do everything today using DOS 6.22

and your telling me this, why?

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Here in Qld, you can get Win7 Home Premium 32-Bit OEM DVD version for $118.00 with any hardware purchased.


Rest of the world has read the System Builder license and buys it without the hardware.