Norton 2007 will be faster, pledges Symantec

David Flynn03 October 2006, 3:38 AM

It seems Symantec hasfinallygot the message about Norton bloat: it has promised its new Norton security software will have a smaller footprint and run faster.PLUS:Vintage Norton advertising: Peter Norton and the Village People.


Symantec has put its Norton 2007 security range on a lettuce leaf diet that'd make even the skinniest supermodel feel bloated.Responding to increased user concern over the software's appetite for memory and the knock-on effect on system performance, the Norton engine has been "rewritten from the ground up" according to David Hall, Symantec's local Consumer Product Marketing Manager.

"One of the main themes (for the Norton 2007 range) is that you need to have security, but at what cost on your system? So one of the big improvements is speed -- the whole thing has been designed to be very light on system resources" Hall told APCmag.com.

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"In all tests -- boot time, how much memory it consumes, how long it takes the interface to open, scan a drive or download updates over HTTP, we're above industry averages and faster than our 2006 products. The memory footprint is between 10-15MB. On a 1GB file set, 2007 scans it in 2m15s, which is a 30-35% improvement over the 2006 version."

Symantec has also set more aggressive pricing. Previous versions of Norton AntiVirus always started at a firmly-set RRP and then dropped as the year went on, with plenty of retail discounting along the way.

For instance, NAV 2006 first landed at $99 but for the past six months has sat at $59.

NAV 2007 will carry a $59 sticker right out of the gate, benefiting from what Hall termed "some sharpening of the pencil".

While the $59 price covers the conventional 12 months of AV definitions and feature updates -- including a free "Windows Vista compatibility update" once the behemoth OS hits the streets in early 2007 -- Symantec will also offer a 'two year' update package for $79 which will include a full upgrade to NAV 2008 towards the end of next year.

"Now that we've moved onto a subscription models, as long as people keep their subscriptions current they'll be entitled to the latest versions" confirmed Hall.

NAV 2007 remains the cornerstone of Symantec's Norton Internet Security 2007 suite, which has also been stripped back to make it more system-friendly.

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The Norton AntiSpam, Parental Control, Confidential Information Blocking and Ad Blocking modules which have been part of the NIS bundle since 2005 have been removed from the core NIS 2007 offering and relegated to a free NIS Add-on Pack for those who need them.

"The whole 2007 range has been improved to focus on today's threats such as phishing attacks and to fully protect people who do their shopping and banking online from fraudulent websites" stressed Hall.

"We're not saying that spam isn't a threat of today, but the true threat in spam is phishing attacks. If you have a look at spam and break it down there's malicious spam which is phishing attacks, and then there's the convenience of not having all that junk mail in there. Obviously there are still people who want to use AntiSpam or Parental Controls, so they're available in the free add-on pack."

This move marks the end of the line for the stand-alone Norton AntiSpam, which will no longer be available in its own right. Hall could not confirm if Norton Personal Firewall, which remains part of the core NIS 2007 suite but is currently parked at boxed version 2006, would also have a future on the shelves of software stores. NAV 2007 will land at $99, with a two-year subscription package at $129.

Joining NAV and NIS will be Symantec's first software-as-service product, Norton Confidential. This browser plug-in aims to identify and defeat what the company terms as 'transactional crimeware' such as phishing and spoofing attacks, along with trojans and keyloggers. The software is based on the work of Whole Security, which created the eBay Toolbar and was acquired by Symantec in September 2005.

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Norton Confidential relies heavily on heuristics and live analysis of Web sites. This includes a cross-check of the URL, page layout and content elements against legitimate sites which have been authenticated by Symantec, in order to safeguard against online banking and shopping spoofs.

Some of the Norton Confidential technology appears in NAV 2007, and thus NIS 2007, but the full package sells for $79 as a 12 month subscription. While Norton Confidential will appear on store shelves in traditional retail packaging, "you won't be buying Norton Confidential 1.0 or Norton Confidential 2007" says Hall. "The ongoing subscription fee will include every update, from new definitions to whole new features".

A second wave of Norton products will arrive early in 2007, but these will be oriented a little more towards the PC system rather than pure security. First will be a 2007 issue of the Norton SystemWorks utility bundle, no doubt fully updated for Vista.

This will be followed by the debut of the Norton 360 online offering. Positioned as a 'consumer PC security service', Norton 360 will roll together everything from protection against viruses and spyware to online backup using a farm of super-sized Symantec servers.

Addendum: the changing face of Peter Norton over the years

Those with an eye for marketing will have noticed Symantec's ever-changing retail packaging to make their products more consumer-friendly.

nortonbox-pete-100.jpg For the longest of times, their canary yellow Norton boxes bore the visage of the bespectacled Peter Norton standing in a confident and sometimes almost Superman-like pose.
nortonbox-cogs-100.jpg Perhaps tired of shelling out royalties for the use of Norton's mug, Symantec moved to generic objects: a stethoscope for AntiVirus, cogs for SystemWorks, a collander for AntiSpam.
nortonbox-hands-100.jpg Seeking a more consumer-friendly image, the marketeers more recently introduced a theme of arms clasped protectively around everyday objects like folders, photos and laptops.
nortonbox-person-100.jpg Now they've pulled the camera back to focus on the person, but this time we're seeing friendly smiling clean-cut folk straight from Central Casting.

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However, as far as we're concerned, nothing beats the 'Village People' approach of this ad campaign for the Norton 2000 range (we saw it only in Japan, on a hoarding outside the railway station at popular gadget town Akihabura in February 2000).

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Here's a closer look. There's Peter Norton the cop, Peter Norton the construction worker, and what sure looks a cowboy Pete standing down the back. Instead of the Indian Chief and Leather Man we get what appears to be a cleaner (the dude with the mop, far-right) and an intern from Scrubs (in front of Peter the cleaner). They even threw in a fireman -- he's next to Cowboy Pete.


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Nate0:

Quick, we're losing market share to AV's that actually work, and are free! Cut out the useless features that we force on consumers, even though no one has wanted them for the last eight years.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pat:

I don't suppose there has been an official release date for Norton 2007?

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Flynn:

Hi Pat: the official launch is this coming Thursday, and Symantec has told me that the products are due to hit the shelves sometime this week...

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anonymous:

Still can't beat NOD's 7-8 MB memory footprint and anti-virus+basic anti-spyware in one. 1 Windows service and 1 exe. Compare that to NAV's 11 services!

Auto-Protect Service, Firewall Monitor Service, Symantec AVScan, ScriptBlocking Service, Symantec Core LC, Symantec Event Manager, Symantec Network Drivers Service, Symantec Password Validation, Symantec Settings Manager, SPBBCSvc, Norton Protection Center (and others not populated in Services.msc)!!!!!!!

+Bloated shell integration and many many MSI files.

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Andy:

Well they better hurry and release it so i can download the cracked virsion :p

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pirate:

Faster bloated, invasive software! Yay! My favorite part of nortons are all those little pop up windows that tell you how safe and protected your computer is. I espeically love it when they happen in games "Your computer is protected by the latest anti-virus patches. Here, have a system crash to prove it".

Symantec SUCK!

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog:

The kindest update Symantec could possibly develop would be to allow their haltware to be actually unistalled without resorting to voodoo, or clean reinstalls.

Dell and others vendors take note, we DO NOT want this overwhelming bloated trialware loaded on new boxes, it only creates more work for us to bin it and load something useful.
Leave the free trials and garbageware for the harvey week-end buy now pay later dream boxes.

If you want a middle aged P4 to grind to a near halt you have two choices, spyware or one of the big name coloured box virus scanners.
Spyware is free and generally easier to remove, though still not recommended!


We don't need no steeenking yellow boxes!!!

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MaxiKing:

Face it:
a) Your Dell box would be 10$ more if McAfee or SYMC would not pay for the trial version to be installed (Yes, they pay for your PC)
b) If you're an expert user, check your favorite P2P system for "Symantec AV Coporate Client". This doesn't expire and has a clean user interface and even less memory footprint.
c) I fully support MS and McAfee to go through a legal battle with MS regarding Vista. MS has halted Browser development after they killed Netscape and surely the same would happen if they own the AntiVirus infrastructure. - Why doesn't Microsoft focus on securing the foundation of Vista, instead of bundling AV software with it?

Maxi

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Renegade:

I didnt mind my computer cooming with Norton, it has served its purpose and it's memory footprint does not bother me at all. It's better then a computer not cooming with it, less hassle when you open the box. I have never run into any complications with the software ethier.

Well done Raindog you obviously have it figured out. Dell and other branded manufactures sell thier boxes with antivirus basing it on the average consumer which all like the simplicity of having their boxes cooming with antivirus.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog:

The problem is the average user is too stupid to seriously be allowed to own a computer.

The common theme is these same average users do not read the screen prompts, their minds are incapable of absorbing concepts like "trial" or "limited time", they don't understand industry practices and in short they just dont get it.

It's easy enough in an enterprise system to impose a nazi regeime of AV software. In fact locking down the lemmings can provide hours of amusement as well as keeping Luft Stalag ITS relatively malware free.

But there is a whole world out there of small business and home users, that dont read APC, have never googled a help site, heaven forbid ever RTFM'd.
It's at this level those pre loaded trials, and retail store white & yellow boxes are the greatest menace.

Even if kept up to date these internet protection packages are modern day snake oil, they are intrusive and resource hungry, and they assume a level of expertise that short of a labotomy those same "average users" will never possess.

What use is a popup message, that is about as user friendly as an arcserve error log, to a user who has little or no grasp of the processes involved or the implications of their accept/deny response. The just want ther porn, chat, mp3 download now, and in spare moment will actually use the pc for their accounts.

These packages do not deliver what the promise.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Phantom:

No joke Raindoggy. I have encountered many average users who just dont deserve a computer. You hit the nail on the head. I have a freind who, when his game of WoW decides to become a view of the desktop due to an accidental press of the windows key, will swear to all religions gods that its a virus. He'll make adjustments to his bios (of which he knows nothing of the implications thereof)and when the pc doesnt even POST he will call me and ask me to come over and remove the virus from his computer. He has a nice shiny new dual core with a sli graphics config. Certainly droolworthy by most peoples standards. Its sitting on his desk going to waste. Oh sure, when i fix it he can play WoW, but most of the time he is so busy being paranoid about all the virae and spyware that I supposedly introduce to his perfect system, that he just doesnt get to enjoy it. All he has to do is READ. Follow SIMPLE instructions. Enjoy.

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Teaspoon:

Renegade, did your computer really come with Norton's assorted utilities installed? Did you try removing them so you have some grasp of the performance they're costing you?

My old AthlonXP 2000+ with a GeForce 4 Ti4600 had consistently better framerates and load times than my flatmate's 2800+ with its GeForce FX 5700.

Then he uninstalled Norton Antivirus.

Then I copped the pwnage my tightarse approach to hardware so rightly deserved.

Also, you suggest that a PC having NAV on it out of the box is better than it coming with nothing at all. I disagree. Nothing at all is exactly what I want. The best way to prevent a PC from getting viruses is to prevent stupid people from using it. Every nine to twelve months, I'll install a free or trial scanner (used to be McAfee trial, now I just use AVG Free) just to check. They haven't found anything in the four and a half years that I've been working like this. Same goes for spyware, actually. The only things that adaware, spysweeper and the like ever dig up are a couple of tracking cookies from advertising websites.

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