Windows 7 to launch in 56 fruity flavours?

Angus Kidman20 November 2008, 4:26 PM

Mid-2009 is tipped as Windows 7's release date, but the big question is: will Microsoft abandon, or expand, its strategy of making umpteen versions of the same OS?


Speculation is running rampant over when Windows 7 will officially get released (mid-2009 is a popular current choice), how many versions will be released by Microsoft, and what the upgrade paths and system requirements will be. We review the evidence to date.

On the record, Microsoft has no official stance on when Windows 7 is due, beyond saying that it currently expects Vista's successor appear within three years of Vista itself — that is, by January 2010. Microsoft similarly says that the question of whether Windows 7 will have a comparable number of variants as Vista (which comes in Home Basic, Home Premium, Business, Enterprise and Ultimate releases) is not yet finalised.

However, the very public discussions of Windows 7 at the recent Professional Developers Conference (PDC) and WinHEC event mean that there's a lot of contradictory evidence floating around. In the world of Microsoft, anything can happen, but here's our current take on how the release dates, editions and upgrade paths might pan out.

Hypothesis: Windows 7 will be on sale by the middle of 2009

The case for: In sessions aimed at PC manufacturers at WinHEC, Microsoft has been promoting the idea that Windows 7 could be ready for mid-year release. Meeting a June date would make it much easier for manufacturers to have machines on sale for Christmas with Windows 7 onboard, which would help sales all around.

Delays in Vista which pushed it to a January release date led to Microsoft developing the infamous 'Vista capable' label to help PC vendors meet their Christmas targets, which went completely pear-shaped when it turned out many machines labelled capable were anything but. An additional piece of evidence: the attendee notes for WinHEC, an annual event, include the comment "there is not another WinHEC planned before Windows 7 is released".

The case against: Microsoft isn't planning a widespread public beta for Windows 7 until early next year (despite the flood of torrent copies of Windows 7 which it is benignly tolerating ). Aiming for a mid-year date would mean that was the only major beta before the final release, which might not provide enough testing to produce a stable release. No Windows release in recent years has come out on schedule, so it would be surprising for one as crucial as Windows 7 to come out ahead of schedule. "We'll release it when it's ready" has long been the Microsoft mantra.

The mechanics of the Windows Logo program (which vendors sign up for to certify their machines as Windows-ready) also work against an early release. When Vista goes into public beta, Microsoft will release version 1.3 of its Windows Logo Kit software, which PC builders and hardware manufacturers use to test and certify equipment. The 1.3 release will include a large number of additional tests and will require complete reinstallation by vendors (they can't upgrade from the prior release).

On top of that, Microsoft plans to release another version of the WLK package at the same time that Windows 7 enters RTM (release to manufacturing), based on feedback on the 1.3 version, and mandate its use from then on. A mid-year release for Windows 7 would create a tight time frame for WLK, and might not make it possible for manufacturers to pre-certify their equipment for Christmas even if the operating system code base is ready. As one Microsoft executive admitted in a vendor discussion this week: "This is kind of fuzzy."

Hypothesis: Microsoft will ditch Home Basic and Ultimate when Windows 7 emerges

The case for: Ultimate has been something of a flop for Microsoft — despite the promise of additional download goodies (Vista Ultimate Extras) for buyers of the everything-but-the-kitchen-sink version, just a handful have emerged. Home Basic was designed for use on low-spec machines that couldn't handle Vista's Aero graphics, but manufacturers in that market overwhelmingly preferred XP for that kind of task, to the point where Microsoft repeatedly had to extend its end-of-life date.

Microsoft's simplification of its logo program to just a single mark (rather than the Basic and Premium labels used with Vista) also suggests it's keen to minimise confusion by not having so many versions on sale. Vista will still need to be supported post Windows 7, so keeping the Vista packages available as (relatively) low-spec options might be simpler all round.

The case against: The install discs being given out at WinHEC and PDC label Windows 7 as an 'ultimate' release. However, that could just as easily be a means of assuring tech-savvy early adopters that they haven't got a cut-down version. Microsoft is keen to push sales of 64-bit Windows, so it might choose to keep a 64-bit Ultimate branding for the propeller-head crowd.

Hypothesis: Windows 7 will have higher system requirements than Vista

The case against: To date, Microsoft has heavily emphasised the ability of Windows 7 to run well on existing Vista hardware, and the importance of allowing existing systems to upgrade. (In contrast, upgrading from XP to Vista never worked that well.) In a blog posting, Vista executive Chris Flores confirmed that view: "One of our design goals for Windows 7 is that it will run on the recommended hardware we specified for Windows Vista and that the applications and devices that work with Windows Vista will be compatible with Windows 7."

The case for: In practice, pretty much all the Vista suggested requirements were way too low, especially when it came to memory. If you've got a working Vista system, chances are it has more than the recommended minimum settings anyway. Memory and hard drive space are also now so cheap that consumer resistance to higher specs is likely to be less than it was in 2007.

Microsoft is also pushing hard for vendors to have 64-bit drivers ready for Windows 7. A quarter of current Vista PC sales are with the 64-bit version, so clearly there's a large market segment that doesn't mind beefing up its hardware. And having taken the option of offering minimal hardware requirements last time and then getting slapped all around for sloppy performance, Microsoft might well prefer to play it safe this time around.

Hypothesis: Upgrading straight from XP to Windows 7 will be painful

The case for: Asked in a session this week how the upgrade path from Windows XP straight to Windows 7 would work, one executive bluntly replied "there won't be one" and suggested that Vista SP1 (or, by implication, a brand-new machine) would be the minimal entry point for anyone seeking to move to Windows 7. That sounds harsh, but it has a certain logic. If the gap between Vista and Windows 7 is at least three years, many businesses will have upgraded machines in the interim. In this environment, purchasing new XP licences now requires the purchase of a Vista Business licence which is then downgraded, so in theory those upgrades could be considered Vista to Windows 7 despite what's actually running.

The case against: It's widely documented that many businesses have held off deploying Vista, and if Windows 7 does make an early appearance, the temptation to resist Vista altogether and make the leap to 7 will be strong. Microsoft won't want to leave those customers in the lurch, so there's bound to be some support for an XP-to-7 path. However, Microsoft might be quite happy to leave the mechanics of individual migrations as lucrative service work rather than trying to totally automate the process.


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Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Whilst I can see the argument that multiple version may be required to suit hardware of different configurations and capabilities, I cannot see how MS could justify the 56 fruity flavour of any further OS let alone the 57 fruity prices likely to apply to all but the most crippled versions.

MS should be taken to talk to justify the discrepancy between retail and OEM bundled pricing.
The bundled impact of a Vista license on a Dell or HP box is less than half the street prices for an equivalent retail copy.

And MS should also be taken to task to justify the upgrade costs to take home packages to business level.

As for any further "Ultimate" type releases, well it looks like a good many have been bitten with Vista and may be a little more discerning with their next MS purchase.

Windows familiarity is a good reason for selecting future versions, outrageous Windows pricing is a good reason for considering the alternatives.

Lastly welcome to the recession MS, if you considered IT departments loathe to consider upgrades, lets see how keen they are with massive budgetry constraints in place.



20 November 2008, 5:27 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

odysseus (New user):

Need an edit: in title of last hypothesis, a '7' is missing.

20 November 2008, 8:11 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

I was also going to raise that point....
To paraphrase Moss: XP is Windows!

20 November 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (User):

Well here we all go again. I think I am going to be sick of hearing about what W7 will or won't be. No one bothered upgrading from XP to Vista because of system constraints so why would they bother upgrading to W7 - an even bigger jump? Oh, that’s right,because it’s Windows 7, not Vista! If MS can release mid 2009 then it's only because W7 is an update for Vista and not much recoding was required. In fact I would say that the code was already done when Vista was released but they held of purely because of the reason - "Will Vista sell or not"

20 November 2008, 8:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ha! (New user):

i have just received my new computer with Windows 7 Ultimate
(I'm not sure if it is officially out yet), but it is far far far better than Vista, with none of the problems that Vista had. It runs fast and is easy to operate

09 September 2009, 7:57 PM (6 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting Ha!:
(I'm not sure if it is officially out yet)


Out to developers and similar. October 22 for others. Either you have RC or a pirate copy.


Quoting Ha!:
but it is far far far better than Vista


Not hard.



Quoting Ha!:
with none of the problems that Vista had


Not true. It still suffers the same UI issue of showing users partial file lists with a bad (ie not obvious) visual cue that it's not done. And there's still speed issues with certain file I/O operations (mostly involving network shares).


Quoting Ha!:
It runs fast and is easy to operate


Ease of use is relative. My mum finds her Linux box easier to use than Windows, but she's used Linux for 5 years and Windows for 5 minutes. Mac users also struggle with any release of Windows for the same reason.
As for speed... Well, 7 seems to be faster than XP on most semi modern hardware if you ignore the previously mentioned file operation slownesses.

09 September 2009, 8:13 PM (6 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

graham.lv (User):

The recession has certainly thrown an unexpected 'wild card' into play. If people have something that works they may well be inclined to save their money for essentials.

Why Microsoft wastes so few precious resources knocking out SO many versions of their O/S beats me. If people have to stop and think, "which one should I buy?", they are more likely to delay that purchase .. and if they walk out the shop, you've lost them.

Obviously they need 32-bit and perhaps more under-the-counter 64-bit. You really just want people to walk in and buy "Windows" without having to decide. However more off-the-shelf they probably need 'business' for companies that want all the sounds, music and play things stripped out.

So, that makes 3 at least, or 4 if business is considering 64-bit.

Then you have the 'new' phenomenon of these itsy-bitsy Net books that now adorn every TV news reader desk in the world requiring a 'lite' O/S that currently only Linux and XP appear to be of use on.

So, that's 4 or 5, plus if they need 64-bit also, 6, or where was I ...

Personally, I just want to buy Windows 7.


21 November 2008, 7:46 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halcon (Advanced member):

While this article try to make assumptions about the not so distant release of Windows Seven, the more intolerable will be Microsoft attitude towards its users.
If Microsoft decides to adhere to high requirements, those that have been waiting for a better upgrade path will go to Linux and others will buy Mac computers with OS X loaded.
It will raise an uproar, many may want revenge against Microsoft, where it hurt most.
Don't assume this new offering from Redmond will deliver, let APC do a complete review when the full product hit the streets.
I hope this review would be reliable and without bias, then is up to the user to decide what to do next.

21 November 2008, 10:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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