2007: a world without Microsoft?

James Bannan
01 January 2007, 2:00 AM


Imagine: it's January 1, 2007 and you've woken up to discover Microsoft has imploded. No Windows. No MSN. No more security patches. All gone. Would your OS of choice would rise to the top? Maybe not...


Here's a little thought experiment to take into the New Year. Not as difficult as Schrodinger's Cat, but thought provoking nevertheless. Imagine that you woke up tomorrow to a world without Microsoft.

Not a world where Microsoft never existed, but one where it hit some hidden critical corporate mass and imploded, or it was discovered that the Windows source code was actually the DNA sequence for red cabbage, and all the directors disappeared to a hidden undersea stronghold. Whatever really ... Microsoft existed and now it doesn't.

What would happen? Firstly, the hardcore anti-Redmond Microsoft haters would dance around singing 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead', and then the realisation would set in.

The disappearance of Microsoft and Windows would leave a massive vacuum in the computing industry - who would be able to take advantage and slip into the gap? Who would benefit the most?

It would probably be a field day for Apple in the home computing market. In the absence of Windows, Apple is the only company producing and all-in-one product suited to home users, and given its existing marketing and distribution capabilities, you could reasonably expect it to dominate in the home market.

The big question at that point is what the mainstream hardware manufacturers would do. Would they petition Apple to produce a redistributable, OEM version of OS X which they can deliver pre-installed on their systems? If so, would it be in Apple's best interests to do so? Arguably it would be a great financial move, but then Apple simply becomes the new Microsoft - the antithesis of its current marketing position.

As the new Microsoft, Apple would encounter a stack of brand new problems which Microsoft deals with on a daily basis - security holes, targeted attacks and viruses. Plus, it would probably lose its default alliance with the open-source community.

In the absence of a common enemy, I think that Apple would find itself as the big bad meanie of the computing industry.

Another option is that hardware manufacturers choose a Linux distro and throw their weight behind its development. But which one? Despite Ubuntu's popularity, it doesn't have the same enterprise support base as Red Hat or Suse. And don't forget Sun.

There's no doubt that Linux would do very well in this new Microsoft-free world, but I think that only two or three distros would float to the top. Despite the vibrancy of the opensource community, it's far too fragmented to be able to make concerted mass inroads into the home market in the same way that Windows has. The only ones which are going to make it are those with a proper infrastructure of support, training and compatibilty, and that's only something which a large company making a serious effort can achieve.

Regardless of which distro becomes the dominant one, it's a fair assumption that Linux, not Apple, would be the new face of business computing. Apple might be incredibly popular, but it has next to nothing to offer in the world of corporate IT.

Linux is already offering alternatives to Microsoft, and would easily rush into the gap.

Finally, console developers would have an absolute field day. Game developers would probably develop more for OS X and Linux, but chances are that with Windows out the picture, the powerful, standardised platforms of consoles would nudge computers out of the picture for gaming. The addition of a mouse and keyboard would make consoles perfectly viable for all the games people say are best played on PCs.

So a world without Windows would be a mad, fluctuating scramble, but market rules wouldn't change overnight. It's just possible that the most successful companies will be the ones who can play by Microsoft's old-school rules.


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deryckw:

History is riddled with carcases from Microsoft, products that once were by have fallen by the wayside or absorbed into the behemoth that is now Microsoft. Back in the days of DOS there were competitors, such as IBM with PC DOS and Digital Research had DR DOS, both of with were well known and respected products in their time. DR DOS did become flex OS, a stable multiprocess text based OS. This got bought out by IBM and still exists today in a form called 4690 . Then there is IBM also (albeit with Microsoft) kicked off a new world with OS/2 the first of the 32 bit operating systems, this was a revolutionary product and was going to take the world by storm in the late 80's early 90's.

My point from all this is that suggesting todays alternate players would probably not be the dominant players but the more likely options is some the the quality products from the past would not have been killed off. In my opinion IBM would have made a good go of OS/2 and would occupy the significant portion of the corporate market, probably with Novel also playing a significant part. However given IBM's knack of selling all of its successful ventures, there would be an Indian company now licensing OS/2, so instead of the dreaded blue screen of death we would be getting the OS/2 red screen of death with the error message in Hindi.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Stestagg:

Re-read the first paragraph. This is about the case where Microsoft fails TOMORROW, not 15 years ago.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

justthething84:

WHY would you buy a MAC?? what a waste of money for a piece of trash.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Multiplatfom user:

MAC is an acronym for Media Access Crontroller.
Mac is commonly short for Macintosh Computer which is a verticaly integrated software hardware solution compared to Microsoft who liscence their software out to any hardware supplier that wants to pay for it. Both are proprietary systems but only Mac can run both natively.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Well it clearly says.. "Imagine that you woke up tomorrow to a world without Microsoft. Not a world where Microsoft never existed."

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John:

You do know there is many places, where Microsoft never did exist, and never will.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

moreminimal:

... let's imagine a world without trolls.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sean in Seattle:

Piffle. Behemoths come, behemoths go.

U S Steel
Bethlehem Steel
Most railroads
Packard and dozens of other car manufacturers. GM?
Bell Telephone
Western Union

you get my drift.




29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Zo/s:

Apple suffers from arrogance, it nearly destroyed them years ago, MS kept them afloat with a one time settlement in which Apple agreed never to sue MS again.

Corporations are moving back to a centralized environment with TS and Thin clients, we could see the rise of dumb terminals again and no O/S is or has been as secure as the Mainframe environment. I see more live O/S or internet O/S being the winner for their simplicity and ability to be used on different computers. I think many people are holding their breath on what Google is working up.

Apple is and has been a niche computer company, having owned my own and used them in school, it is still too deep in corporate quagmire to adapt to 10's of millions of blank computers. Many articles tout the advance experience and education of apple users, therefore what would compel the vast majority of computer idiots to subject themselves to futile computing?

If MS disappeared tomorrow it would be a young upstart that is able to keep it simple and adapt that would win the hearts of millions of Windowless users. Everything is pure speculation 45 billion dollars in cash doesn't just evaporate over night.


29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tango Sierra:

Fairly short and very mindless:

from the I hate Steve group @ lunch in the office....

APPLE translates:

Arrogance
Produces
Profit
Loosing
Entity

From those of us who worked with OS2 WARP, it turned out to be the last attempt by IBM in the home / single PC marketplace so..sadly or happily or who cares:

Alternate name for OS2:

LOSER

Last
Operating
System
Ever
Released

Yeah yeah and (insert any name here) is one too. Blah Blah Blah

Lunch over
We really enjoyed your serious side of the "alternate universe" proposed by the author.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tezza22:

"As the new Microsoft, Apple would encounter a stack of brand new problems which Microsoft deals with on a daily basis - security holes, targeted attacks and viruses."

What makes you assume this? This is the tired old statement that few try to develop an Apple virus because of less Apples out there. WRONG!!! OSX is a secure system that the hackers have been unable to successfully wreak havoc with, and who amongst them would not want the absolute fame of being the first to crack it?

Revisit this article in a year or two and I believe you will marvel at the take-up rate that Apple and OSX will have won on both home AND business computing, primarily due to to security.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

alidog:

Not wanting to sound rude, but you are dead wrong. Hackers found a totally unsecured way into a Macbook with the wireless system - one example, but I'm sure there are many. I am not a Mac basher - i think they're cool - but making statements like that can never be right.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Martin Pilkington:

I agree with with you pointing out that Macs are not invulnerable, Macs are computers, all computers are vulnerable. The wireless hack was actually never proven to work with the internal wireless card. It was claimed to work but never completely proven.

That said, Macs are much more secure than Windows PCs. Most of the new security features in Vista have been on the Mac for years and are being improved even further in Leopard.

And in reply to the original article, Apple wouldn't licence OS X. Apple makes most of it's money from hardware, the whole OS X experience relies on the integration between hardware and software. Developers also rely on this. If a developer releases some software that relies on DVD burners and web cams then they can be sure that a lot of macs will have them. OS X isn't designed to run on as much hardware as Windows. There are lots of Mac configurations out there, but nowhere near as many as Windows has to deal with.

If Apple did release OS X as an OEM OS it would seriously cut into their profits, make their reliance on open source software much harder to maintain, and open them up to malware and compatibility issues (I'd put money on the malware problem not being as bad as on Windows but compatibility being worse)

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Reb:

I'm afraid the FUD continues to impress. The Macbook "test" didn't reveal insecurities in OS X, merely a driver for an attached wireless router that wasn't standard on Macs. Apple patched the related issue within 3 wks without any reported successes in the wild. There have been no, I repeat, no reported successes that weren't limited lab tests done by security firms attempting to gin up business. It's been over 5 years without a single successful virus so please don't be so quick to state, "I'm sure there are many". It's partially Apple's doing; but more importantly the OS X Unix heritage. With fast processors with virtualization Microsoft should abandon their code base entirely and run legacy software in virtualization. The Windows code is a "dead end".

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mdfischer:

Mac proponents have been too complacent regarding the appearance of security exploits in the mac os, and it is useful to point this out as a public service. However, when assessing the relative security of Windows to Unix, Mac OS X or Linux, it is also a public service to keep focused on the point that Windows is vastly less secure, and is unlikely to ever become secure.

The example given for Mac OS X is partially correct ... but the exploit is not totally unsecured on stock hardware, is partially social, and is not easy to exploit. It was, however, an instance of a serious security hole that was exploitable, although one has to be in the vicinity of the target machine. There are a number of others when someone has actual physical contact with the machine. The most serious recent remote security hole was an interaction between safari and the terminal program.

Such problems are, however, far and few between. We will see more, but never on the scale of Windows, which is virtually a virus development kit that cries 'hack me' when on the internet.



29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

The only wireless exploit I've ever heard of with a MacBook turned out, which was widely publicised a few months ago turned out to be a hack involving third-party wireless drivers and a USB wireless adapter (which nobody with a macbook would use, since the macbook has a built-in wireless card). You cannot blame apple if a third party provides a (from the point of view of the OS) legitimate gateway into the system. All it highlighted was the importance of security of wireless drivers and, of course, that if you can convince a user with administrator privileges to install a trojan then you will be able to hack in with that user's privileges. But that is a feature rather than a bug(!). Without it you would not be able to do anything and it is the reason why all software installed on a computer should be considered carefully. But, such software is not able to install itself or replicate under Mac OS X because the OS's security model prevents this from happening without user intervention, and therefore limits the potential damage even if someone does manage to hack past the first lines of defence. Vista now does a similar thing, which is why Vista is more secure than previous Windows versions. Writing a self-replicating Mac OS X virus is extremely difficult. So, yes, Mac users need to be vigilant too, but so far Apple has done a good job of securing the out-of-the-box system.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

That was later discounted as being false.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=255

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Arnold Ziffel:

I don't think you're rude--just misinformed. The supposed hack of a MacBook you are referring to involved a couple of guys out to "poke lit cigarettes" into the eyes of Mac users. They installed a third party wireless card into a MacBook, which almost no Mac customers would ever do, and supposedly were able to get into the Mac. As far as I know, they never revealed how the "hack" was performed, in addition to "completing" the hack in a video recording only.

Apple recently discovered a vulnerability found in original Airport cards used in Macs until about four years ago, but they patched this. If memory serves correct, it involved a weakness only while the wireless system scanned for available networks. And no instances of this hack have been recorded in the wild.

We've used Macs since 1989 and currently use an iBook, PowerMac G4, PowerMac G5, and a new Mac Pro on the internet. In over 10 years of using Macs on the internet, we've not once had an issue with malware of any kind without running any anti-virus software.

Are Macs invulnerable? No. But they are at least a few orders of magnitude safer than a Windows system.

Believe what you want.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mike3k:

For every one Mac security hole someone finds and trumpets loudly, there are 100 Windows security holes. Most Windows vulnerabilities are only found when an attack has already taken place. So far none of the Mac vulnerabilities have actually been exploited other than proof of concepts which were never seen in the wild.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nilanjan Dutta:

Apple can't ever be what Microsoft is.....
Microsoft is not a bulshit OS company which
only lives in it's own world. Microsoft without
it's OS also has lot of products like Dynamics,XBOX 360, MOSS 2007,
Windows CE,zune and many more.

So people can't actually imagine a world without microsoft

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tanya Browinski:

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn I can imagine it Nilanjan yes I really can :) A world without Microsoft
Aaaaaaaaaaaah Heaven :):)

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

MS IS a bullshit company that doesn't have the faintest clue of what technology really is. If MS disappears (and I really hope it does), then Linux is NOT the guaranteed winner that I guarantee you. The world is compromised of 99% of people that are still totally computer clueless. In that realm, Apple has always been and always will be the king of the game. When MS disappears Apple will probably pick out a few PC manufacturers that it considers worthy and license Mac OS X to them. The bulk of the consumer and server mainstream will definately NOT go to an uncontrolled platform. Get real people.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

If I were anyone on this forum hoping that Microsoft goes away...think again--please. To point out the most obvious, our culture drives us to make money. If it weren't for Microsoft, a different company would take their place. Whether it's a company that already has the means to do so (Apple) or someone else is pointless...it would happen. If it was Apple, all Mac users out there would have to eat their words.

I use both OSX and Windows, and both systems are great for different purposes. Therefore, comparing them to each other is useless because either way, the argument as different motivations.

Windows is a dynamic system that has to support pretty much everything--therefore, it will have holes. It's like comparing crime in Washington D.C. to that of some small town in New England based on how many murders occur in a year--Smaller towns have less people, and therefore less murder by statistic. I'm not even going into small-town versus city social structures either.

Windows is not a shit OS, and neither is Apple. Linux is still great for open-source development and networking solutions, but still not good enough for wide public distribution because of its limited support (as somone said, a great majority of this world is still highly computer illiterate).

All I'm saying is that there's a reason Apple is still a small company when compared to Microsoft. They claim to be better when it comes to updating their system, but they hope that anyone that might gobble up that bullshit isn't going to realize that OSX caters to a specific crowd, whereas Microsoft has to design a system that incorporates a lot of solutions.

I think if any major change is going to happen (or should happen), there should be more specialized systems like OSX and certain flavors of Linux (and you can even include Windows MCE). Not everyone has multiple computers in their houshold, but sooner or later they will become as common as phones.

OSX is a specialized system, and therefore Apple is able to focus their efforts to improve a narrow range of offerings. If Microsoft is able to identify solutions that are specific (not that they haven't, but their systems are most times bloated) then their game would change quite a bit.

In any argument, you can prove an OS to be great compared to another, because it's hard to make a comparison between two products with different motivations.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mdfischer:

Windows exists because Microsoft wanted to join Apple's world. Although it took them a very long time to do so, from an appearance point of view they managed to do so. Unfortuntately for the rest of us, they didn't do a very good job on the rest of the operating system, largely because they didn't 'get' the internet.

Probably the biggest difference between the Apple world and the Microsoft world is the use of state of the art software engineering methods. It may be with Vista Microsoft is finally coming to this party as well, if late as always.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Rugmonster:

Yeah, I can't imagine the world without the Zune.

Microsoft's products are successful because they all integrate into the total Microsoft environment built around their OS. Most of their products are copies of things that have already been done, but tied more tightly together through AD and the rest of their server technologies.

As for the Zune, CE and 360, those are easily replaceable with current offerings. Come on...the Zune?

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nick:

I have a problem with the whole "if apple was as popular as windows then it would have the same problems..." It's true but the way it is thrown around is wrong. It would have more problems than it currently has but that doesn't mean that it would be "just as bad." You make it sound like all software is created equally like it's really impossible to make a better OS. If that's true why don't you throw together an operating system? I am so tired of people defending this simpleton argument by pointing at a security bulletin and saying "looky looky apple has them too!" I'm sorry but honestly the number of times I have had to "fix" someone's computer because they clicked the wrong link and one website took over their computer and installed crap everywhere to the point where it is completely and utterly useless. I know you all have come across this tired old scenario over and over again. Have you ever had a call from a Mac user saying spyware has taken over? No, because every other browser in the world actually has at least an iota of security minded design. So internet explorer is over half the problem, and yes that is windows' problem, why? Because it's built into the operating system. Let's run this scenario through imagine IE for Linux with all of the glory that is activeX controls would the problem be as bad as it is on windows? Hell no you need root permission to do anything system wide. I think it could go as far as to annoy that user to death but the absolute worst case would be to remove the user's account and home folder. I'm not to familiar with OS X's security but I am sure it is overall better than windows. I do know all about UAC in vista. Annoying a user to death is not a good security policy. I turned it off within 5 minutes I'm sure everyone who can dig out that option will do it ASAP when they get vista. Agree or disagree with what I've said at least admit that it is way to easy and at best inaccurate to say simply "If OS X was in Windows' position it would have the same problems" It certainly would have more but not the same or even nearly as bad ones.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

3Puttz:

OSX is a secure system? Sorry...get out from under the rock. OSX is hackable - don't kid yourself. Hackers definitely have a propensity to hack for the masses. Windows has the masses and will continue to be the primary target of this lunatic cult of binary busters. WRT your comments on business adopting OSX...this concept doesn't even touch the Apple roadmap at this point.


29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

aubrey.conversely:

I love Macs, really, but they are just not positioned to take advantage of the "collapse" of MS - either overnight or more gradually due to its inability to position itself in the 64bit environment over the next eighteen months (and its business model that increasing alienates users). And Apple's disability is mainly a hardware issue. No Mac developer has ever had to contend with the real hardware environment out there - including legacy devices and new standards emerging continuously. Mac sits there in its comfortable, highly controlled, cocoon looking great and avoiding all the sh*t that Windows and Linux hacks deal with every day. The desktop market can't suddenly be based on new machines all built to Apple's specifications. Apple would explode.
My money would be (and is) on Linux being there is/when the MS business model finally clags. Maybe SUSE, maybe Ubuntu or maybe all of them - afterall, its the apps and fundamentals that matter, not the window dressing. Linux can (and probably will) move from the server to the desktop as MS's hold on the home/SOHO market becomes more tenuous.

Aubrey
Former Windows fanboy and Mac user, now happily using neither.


29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan:

Based on the uninformed comments posted here, it's a fact that using Windows and belieiving that Microsoft is the end all the be all of computing makes you ignorant or as I would say "Dumb".

The Intel based Apple Macs are the only systems that will let you run three OS's (MacOS X, Windows, and Linux). Period.

Security - Ha!. The wireless breach mentioned was done using a third party wireless card. Nothing to do with the built in wi-fi all Apples come with. There are still no widespread security breaches that have impacted the Mac. Unlike the "Billions" of dollars lost due to the use of Microsoft's Windows OS.

64bit - Ha! Again, ignorant posts from Windows fanboys.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/64bit.html

Again, thinking that Windows is the end all and be all of computing is just dumb. Get smart....get a Mac.

And yeah, Unix/Linux fans. Leopard will be UNIX!!!

There, I said it.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Er, Intel PCs close to the spec of Apple's Intel Macs can run those same three OS'es (although it's not yet legal to run Mac OS X in such a way, you didn't state that legality was a pre-requisite :-) ).

More important, surely, is that with Microsoft out of the picture, the Wintel monopoly is broken up and an OS that's both free (with the optional of paid support) and available to run on a wide variety of hardware (i.e. not just x86) will have a good chance to fill in the gap left by MS'es demise.

There is only one OS currently that fits the bill - Linux. Before you say "BSD", it has a far lower market share than Linux does now, so I don't see MS disappearing suddenly boosting BSD beyond Linux.

Now, how does Microsoft go bust in the future, I wonder? With huge stockpiles of cash in reserve, it could lose billions a year and still survive more than a decade :-(

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Jeez, suppose we woke up tomorrow and the USA was gone. Would China become hegemon or would Russia resume global leadership? Maybe the EU could rise to the challenge. M$ ain't going to disappear overnight so what's the point of this column?

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Mester:

If the USA disappeared, who would take leadership? What leadership? The economical leadership of the world since early 90¨s has returned once more to euro-asian continent. As for political? well isnt we doing an extremly good job in iraq? Military? Maybe, though we are the only ones that start mass invasions nowdays so its hard to know or compare the situations in china, russia or the EU.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dave:

The EUrinal is sliding into 3rd world status, and is no way and has never been capable of economic leadership.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Cage88:

Who would resume global leadership if USA is gone?

Read: http://www.counterthink.org/019659.html and
http://www.halturnershow.com/ChinaToDumpUSDollars.html

USA IS GONE already.



29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DAG:

OS X, LINUX & the UNIX family would get along just fine, thank you. UNIX has been around for a long time and any good developer would be able to port their wares to the platform(s) of choice quickly.

My speculation under such a fantasy would see LINUX running most servers and Mac & Solaris taking most of the Clients. Only the gamers would have much to gripe about.

I'm of the generation that has grown up with the personal computer and have used most of the OSes currently in use and most of those gone by at one time or another in my work and at home. Experience has led be to believe that the main impact of the MS Windows ecosystem has been to lead the public to accept unstable & insecure software and OSes as the norm in both stand-alone and networked computing. They assume that the problems endemic to Windows are endemic to computers in general, which is not true.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DR Olson:

Interesting. Some thoughts:

First, your thought experiment demonstrates the danger of MS's destructive monopoly. There really isn't another OS player to stand in the gap currently. MS has had an imperialistic benefit to the US economy and national security that would be a great loss to the country.

Second, Apple would naturally be expected to step up to be a new MS. You are correct, they could not do it. And I think the current incarnation of Apple would refuse the position (whereas Scully's Apple would have quickly tried to take up the emperor's mantel).

Third, a new thought experiment, not one where MS did not exist any more, but one where it is not the center to computer work. I would liken the current MS monopoly to a unique railroad gage that restricts non MS trains. The rails bring an advantage to MS that open freeways will remove. It isn't that MS will cease to exist but that it will become more like Chevron or Ford rather than the monopoly railroad. I am not sure MS, as it is currently embodied, would do as well in its sphere as GM or Ford are doing in theirs.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

RM Gray:

At last, an intelligent, well balanced thought! Though I would have to side with an earlier post...whereby Apple would quickly assume the home market share, with Linux/Un*x taking root in the world of business, I appreciate the non-dogmatic neutrality of your post.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Aleksey:

The field of view of this article is limited, because Microsoft - as a company may disappear, yes. But technologies remain, and products can't disappear all of a sudden too (even if no support is given).

Even if we imagine that MS went dead, it will of course boost Linux and Apple, but it will give a *very* big boost to projects implementing compatibility - to Wine (because it's more developed and already has commercial support) and to ReactOS (since there are no new products from Microsoft, an opensource implementation of a compatible operating system would be a profitable idea).

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Troy Banther:

If McSoft went belly up. There would be an immediate panic as McSoft systems administrators walked around in a confused daze. Their certifications all worthless and trying to brush up on *nix, Linux, BSD and OSX.

The old *nix, BSD, Linux and OSX admins would be walking around wearing t-shirts reading, "If you see me laughing...."

Change is not always a negative.

Governments would not collapse. City services would not stop. Bombs would not fall. Heck, there are systems out there still running NT4 and earlier operating systems.

There would be a increase in economic competition since there is no longer a company strangling it at nearly 95 percent global market. Competition of the like that has never been seen for nearly 30 years. This would be in both hardware and software as-well-as programming.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

LOLOLOL!!! McSoft!!! OH, LOLOLOL!!!! I mean, HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!1!

You people making predictions and grandstanding prophecies about the imminent demise of Microsoft would look a lot more mature and relevant if you dropped the creative spelling and hubris "I can call them whatever I want, nyah" infantile sucktard attitude. Just a thought.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

threeker:

Although that might be a little harsh, I agree. Most people have either gotten so far along in their tangents that their topics have become borderline irrelevant.
Just read the article and take it for what it's worth...especially if it was written by a kid; I think the article was well written and had some humorous arbitrary situations to grasp...a world without "McSoft" (j/k...Microsoft).
The fastidious naysayers and whiners over the article have too much time on their hands it seems. I only read the article because it had already been opened by a fellow worker when I stepped on the open work machine; needless to say, it was boredom that initially drove me to this machine and, subsequently, to this article. I have better things to do with my work time OR free time than to study up on the latest nerdisms and boring "haxors" so I can act, sound, or look smarter than the rest of the ubergeeks out there. I think the actual world far outweighs the virtual as far as...well...pretty much everything goes. This being said from an IT worker's standpoint.
Just a thought

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Actually I can (and so can you) imagine a world without Microsoft. Growing up in the 70's and 80's I have had a world without Bill and the gang. I myself run Linux. As far as XBox 360, CE etc? well there is ninetendo, playstation. there's opera mobile systems for phones, portables etc. There's IBM & HP who would have probably stepped up to the charge for corporate and government needs, using a unix based platform for that. But in ALL fareness, without Microsoft perhaps Linus T. wouldn't have stubbled on Linux or the need the build some alternate to Windows.

All in all, windows has served it's purpose. The price continues to raise and as all as people agree to the EUA and pay the price then Microsoft will continue. People will buy expensive photo, burning and mutlimedia software when there are alternatives. They just aren't aware perhaps that a free (slight learn curve for some) exist! ANYTHING you can do on windows, We in the open, free software world can do.

So a world without micorosoft is wishful thinking...but as long as people allow it to exist it will...I'd perfer to give my money to the guys and girls who give me free alternatives!! Long live freedom to choose!!

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ddc:

I think that the corporate games in this situation would make Linux vendors divide into groups with incompatible technologies and, consequently, incompatible software. This situation would lead to the same state of market as it was before Microsoft's rise.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Buy_a_Commodore... in 1988:

The largest thing to consider are third party hardware and software developers. Holy crap, Dell will have to rethink its business model on a dime if we're gonna follow this scenario. The point made earlier that Apple builds its own software to fit its own hardware (and vice-versa) is extremely important because its pretty much the only company in this field besides the game consoles and digital media technology that conform (to any degree) such a business model. Linux is in fairly good standing. IBM could shove out OS/3 or somethin.



Apple tried licensing and stuff to third party hardware manufacturers, and they undercut Apple's hardware manufacturing division. So, Apple won't be eager to try that mess again. It all comes down to the business model, what works for one company can kill another. The original idea for "Big Kmart" was to expand the pantry's in Kmart stores to take on Walmart's grocery section. One bankruptcy later, the two big retailers of the 70's (Sears and Kmart) are huddled together with Walmart reign unwavoring. Off topic, but valid none the less.



A note to the battle of OS superiority going above, please take into account third party support and market share. It's relevant, it really is. Albeit, there are many other factors, and the ones I read above are good points in favor of Mac's security. (OOOO George just knocked out Biff, anyone get that reference?)



Mac's are secure, I won't argue that. But supporting third party hardware and software, as well as making the efforts that Microsoft makes toward backward compatibility are direct trade offs for security and ingenuity. In short, there is only so much you can do with an operating system that is expected to run as much crap as Windows is expected to run. Windows users aren't dumb(well, techno-informed ones aren't), we know what we're running, and we laugh at the same Windows jokes everybody else laughs at. DLL hell and the registry pisses us off too from time to time too. We know we have an OS that covers a helluva lot of ground compatibility speaking, and we know that Microsoft screws it up from time to time.



At this point however, Microsoft would leave a gaping hole that I don't think Apple could fill without becoming Microsoft and following its "hell, lets make ALL of it run" approach to hardware and software compatibility. Linux is different. In a short time, if we went back to the Dell example, on a dime, it could throw a Linux distro (most are complete with web-browsers, productivity software, etc.) and get them selling quickly. The tricky part is getting things like compatibility up to snuff. Oh, and I want games. cool games. and lots of 'em.



29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

csm67:

I think you forgot that technically, you said the company of microsoft Disappeared overnite, not the actual O/S.

What you point out is if the O/S somehow hit critical failure and wiped itself of millions of PC's. It would take a long time for business and personal computers to find a need to switch to another O/S. Microsoft doesnt write device drivers for hardware. Other people could hack source code, and fill in any other security holes they find.

This would all allow a lot of time for other companies to come up with a new O/S, be it some sort or *ix O/S or apple, or a complete rip-off of the Windows O/S itself.

I think apple could stand to make billions in the quick rush. Port it to x86, which shouldnt be too difficult.



29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AndrevS:

What about ReactOS taking over were Windows used to be. They are on their way of creating a windows compatible OS,
and with the support of some large companies, they would get it finished a lot sooner, and everyone can stay using their software and drivers like they used to on windows.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

ReactOS is a good alternative for 'getting around' the MS EUA and restrictive pricing structure, but in the proposed scenario, I believe that commercial development of Windows software would come to a halt...thereby nullifying ReactOS. The problem with Windows is that it's monolithic which, while offering the integrated usability that most computer users have come to enjoy and expect, it is also the cause of the MANY security and stability issues the OS has suffered. Perhaps MS will in the future, base Windows on a Un*x kernel (ala OS X). Then everyone could enjoy a stable and secure modular system!

Finally, keep in mind people that these are just tools...Linux, OS X, Windows...Black & Decker, Dewalt, Skil. Contractors rarely argue over who has the best drill...they just need a hole. All of this proselytizing about which OS is better, has been, is and will continue to be an exercise in futility. Any informed person knows that AmigaOS is the best!!! LOL :-)

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AndrevS:

Maybe. But well ... if every programmer has to learn a new API and stuff ... So, who knows what might happen. Maybe in the end it would ... but I don't think that would happen right away.
But well ... microsoft won't die tomorrow, not next year ... but some day it will...

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

C:

without patch tuesdays to fix the latest flaws, how would all the corporations feel safe not only continuing to run an OS that would need only a few hundred patches from all over the net, but also deploy new systems with the rapidly decaying OS platform? XP and the Vista proposition only works because the window of exposure to vulnerability is perceived to be small.

otoh, installing new home systems would become impossible without the online activation in place, the adoptation cycle of alternatives would start at the home level and work its way back to the larger comapnaies who would still retain volume licenced editions of the infered products.

I suspect that global computer literacy would not swell overnight (or even greatly longterm), it is more likely that some computing tasks would dissappear altogetherm, and that the dependancy on computing for everyday life would actually take a few steps back.

just my 2c

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TheSeqTech:

I think IBM would get back into the desktop game (home and corporate) with linux. I'm going to throw out FluxBox since they packaged it as the HMC that you get with a new iSeries. Microsoft screwed them out of the PC game several times, so I'm sure they remember.

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