We don't need Vista after all?

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Dan Warne29 December 2006, 6:42 AM

Now that we're close to the public launch of Vista, a weird thing is happening in the blogosphere: people are starting to say that we don't really need it after all.


Now that we're close to the public launch of Vista, a weird thing is happening in the blogosphere: people are starting to say that we don't really need it after all.

For so many years, XP was the exploit-riddled OS lacking in basic security measures and forcing 95% of computer users to fit in with a five-year-old user interface that desperately needed to be updated to stay competitive with the digital era.

Now that Microsoft has finally done it, it's "yawn, we don't really need that... why fix what ain't broke."

Here's a high-profile example: Microsoft blogger Paul Thurrott says in his review of Vista: "The problem isn't even that Microsoft promised us the world and then failed to deliver. No, the problem is that there's another OS out there that runs just fine on over 400 million computers around the world. That system is stable, secure, and gets the job done. It's Windows Vista's biggest competitor. To be fair, it's Windows Vista's only competitor. Maybe you've heard of it: It's called Windows XP."

Ballmer and Gates must be kicking themselves for releasing such a substantial update with XP SP 2.

To an extent I have to agree with Thurrott. I've run Vista on my work PC for months and have actually gone back to XP for the time being (I'm still running a Vista box for testing and experimentation; just not working on it full time).

It's not that Vista isn't better than XP -- it is, in many ways -- it's that certain apps that I rely on don't work properly in it yet (Citrix GoToMyPC is one prime example -- I'll be buggered if I'm going to keep paying the monthly fee for a service that doesn't work in Vista, and Blackberry Desktop Manager doesn't seem to work properly with Office 2007.)

The benefits of Vista just aren't that enormous over XP, which, as it is at the end of its life cycle, works with everything.

In an upcoming edition of APC I've written about the top 10 reasons you should care about Vista. For me, many of the most important aspects of Vista come down to shell user-interface refinement: the ability to browse through a folder of photos in a method similar to Apple iPhoto, or a folder of music using ID3 tags rather than filenames.

Frankly, though, these improvements didn't need six years of kernel rewriting -- they could have been implemented by reworking the XP desktop.

It is certainly nice to have the option of a more modern operating system than XP. But upgrading to Vista on an existing PC may be a waste of money if you don't find XP irritating to use at the moment. Given Microsoft Australia has hiked up the local pricing so much compared to what Vista sells for in the US, the cost of the Vista upgrade is non-trivial. Probably the only way to buy Vista at a fair price is to get it with a new PC, where you'll probably only be paying $100 - $150 for the full OEM licence.


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Jason:

I have no problems with XP at all and see no need to upgrade just to get a fancier interface. I dont stare at folders and the Start menu all day, only long enough to get into Firefox or the app I need. How long before a virus mysteriously appears that targets users of XP, forcing everyone to upgrade?

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

James Wilcox:

There are some things I like about Vista, and some things I don't. I don't like how it seems to be a bit dumbed down and UAC continually annoys me. Are you sure???
Their also seem to be bugs in the final version of mediacenter, but it could be just that my tv tuners driver isn't properly compatible yet.
James Wilcox, jameswilcox.co.nr

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

morethannoise:

The only reason I would consider Vista over XP would be the availability of DirectX 10. Even so, an operating system "upgrade" would require a video card upgrade to something DX10 capable.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tek Janssen:

That basically sums it up for me. I am not interested in Vista. I am not interested in Microsoft services that are supposed to tie in with Vista (an antitrust violation no doubt). I just want to be able to play the latest PC games and run my apps.

Vista is a bloated mess full of features no one asked for. MS put these "features" in because it is part of their long-term strategy to control online multimedia, collaboration, and business. Or should I say, it's their latest attempt to do so, now that IE+ActiveX scheme has failed.

You know, if MS feels like using consumers to promote MS services, they should give Vista away for free. Even then I would think twice about installing it.

Game devs, use OpenGL, don't fall for MS lock-in, because eventually you'll be sorry if you do. You know how MS operates by now, don't you?

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SteveR:

another reason to think long & hard about upgrading to Vista
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jimbo:

Wow somebody really is jealous that they didn't get one of these Ferraris.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

Hehe oh puh-leeeze Jimbo :-) If you're going to yank my chain, you'll have to yank a bit harder. I have a fully optioned MacBook Pro -- as Om Malik said, "I need another laptop like I need a hole in my head."

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bart:

Likewise, I'm running a fully optioned MacBook Pro and running the few Windows only programs I have to run under Parallels Desktop. Working beautifully-- no malware no problems!

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

I agree... Parallels with Coherency is amazing. However, it should be pointed out that if you are running Parallels you are running real Windows, so you're as open to malware as any "bare metal" Windows user.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Octavio:

Dear Dan: Many frustrated Windows users should give a serious look switching to a Mac. MacOSX Tiger is by far better than Windows Vista is by far faster, safer, much more elegant and intuitive, much more stable and a by far cheaper, free of virus. 100% plug and play.
Also the new MacIntels can run Windows natively and users have two computers in one.
And the last and best advantage, Users can run easily 3 new OSX releases, with no need to buy or upgrade their actual computer. What happens with Windows? each time a new OS is out users need to buy a new much more powerful computer. this is ridiculous.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jordn Fenton:

Firstly, I've used Windows basically all my life. I switched to XP in 2002/2003 and, at the moment, it's ridiculously-customised. I'm happy with it, and even though I was really looking forward to Longhorn (as in the, ahem, real not watered-down Longhorn) and Vista for quite some time, I'll be sticking with it for a long time yet. SP3's a good couple of years away, or so I've heard, and the support (which I never use, anyway) is likely to last a good few more years to come.

But I'm wavering from my point. Instead of ditching your PC and buying a new-fangled Mac (which I intend to do as soon as I have the money), why not just keep your PC, keep all your data in one place and just get, oh, I don't know... a Linux distro?

Sure, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I've finally gotten Ubuntu up and running and I couldn't be happier.

I'm wavering again.

I think that XP is fine for years to come. Yes, I think that was my point.

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Anonymous:

Just switch to Mac OSX Leopard. As Octavio said, switch to Mac OSX Tiger, Leopard is coming out soon and Microsoft copied Mac OSX's things eg. the widgets. And its virus and spyware free 100%. If using Windows XP Pro, just look around for some themes or skins to change the current look to a Windows Vista Look.

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