Adobe explains: Why there's no Flash on iPhone or BlackBerry

Angus Kidman
17 November 2008, 4:00 PM


There's hope on the horizon for iPhone owners when it comes to Flash support, but when if you're a BlackBerry owner, you probably shouldn't hold your breath.


It might annoy the hell out of you when the front page of a site is a Flash extravaganza, but there's no denying that Adobe's Flash format is all-pervasive in the online world.

Originally developed by Macromedia (which Adobe acquired in late 2005), Flash has become the dominant format for online video. By Adobe's estimate, it accounts for 80% of all Internet video viewing, a statistic driven in large part by its use on YouTube and at a secondary level by its use in online TV platforms like the ABC's iView.

Flash is widely supported on PC platforms, being available across Windows, Mac and Linux systems and in most major browsers (even Google Chrome supported Flash from the outset). However, it's a different story on mobile phones.

Adobe boasts that there will be more than a billion devices enabled with Flash Lite, its mobile-specific version, by early 2009. It's working to add Flash support to the Google-backed Android platform, which it says will happen in "the very near future".

However, that list doesn't include arguably the two most iconic devices in the mobile world: Apple's iPhone and RIM's BlackBerry, both of which are Flash-free zones. In the case of the iPhone, the ability for the phone to play YouTube videos in a special YouTube application provides a tantalising hint of Flash Video in the phone — but alas, it's merely Quicktime Video playback. Apple got YouTube to convert most of its videos into MPEG-4 in order to be compatible with Apple, rather than accommodating Flash Video in the phone.

As it prepares for this week's MAX developers conference, Adobe is maintaining the party line that there will eventually be an iPhone version of Flash. "We continue to work with Apple on developing that," Anup Murarka, Director of technical marketing mobile and devices at Adobe, told APC this week. However, in typical this-is-Apple-and-we'll-tell-you-when-it-suits-us fashion, there's no actual public timeframe on the horizon.

For BlackBerry, the news is more definitive but less pleasing. According to Murarka, the big problem is the use of Java as the core development platform for the BlackBerry. "We are not going to be able to get Flash running under Java," he said, noting that the multiple layers of code interpretation that would require (Flash converted to Java converted to BlackBerry device code) impose a performance burden that can't readily be overcome.

Murarka freely concedes that this has created some problems. "People notice," he said. "We see the need and we think there's demand."

Another problem for Adobe is that it has developed its licensing models for Flash Lite in the US and Japan, where the handset market is dominated by carriers. That makes it harder to build support in markets like Australia and Europe, where handset builders generally have the upper hand in negotiations. "That means it's not nicely packaged in a single operator's network," Murarka said, though Nokia has added Flash support to its Symbian-based devices.

In the long term, Adobe hopes that the Open Screen Project, in which it is a key partner, will provide a means for supporting portable applications, including its AIR system as well as Flash, on a range of platforms. However, the first fruits of that project in the form of public code won't be seen until late 2009, Murarka said. Neither RIM or Apple are currently members of the OSP.


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jake (New user):

even the playstation portable and playstation 3 have flash

i can understand the Black Berry not having flash.

17 November 2008, 4:18 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (New user):

The reason Apple wont let Adobe release Flash on the iPhone is simple, they cant make money from people buying apps through the Apps store if people can code them in Flash and then sell directly to the user rather than using Apples propietry code. I would love to have flash on my iPhone, just so pages are rendered properly and I can view regular youtube and other video sites. And web games would be nice too.

17 November 2008, 4:50 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

I wonder if they'll ever explain what happened to the 64 bit versions for Windows and Linux... They've been coming soon since WinXP 64 bit was released!

18 November 2008, 9:11 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mannyman1111 (New user):

Whoever is in charge of apps for blackberry should be fired twice..blackberry apps are a disaster..9 out of 10 apps fronm them are aweful,useless,defective or screw up my phone...most have been deleted form my phone. The only reason I stay with blackbeery is because of their email..now they cant even get that right. Attachments over 3 megs dont come thru! WTF!! Time for an iphone

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