An exploded iPod Nano, courtesy gizmodo.com

More Apple woes: this time, it's exploding iPods

Danny Gorog20 August 2008, 10:37 AM

Uh oh. Apple has confessed some iPods are susceptible to exploding into flames.


In what seems to be an ongoing litany of the tech industry, another case of exploding Lithium Ion batteries has emerged -- but this time it's the first generation iPod Nano, circa 2005.

The problem: overheating iPods may burst in to flames. Definitely sounds like something you shouldn't be carrying in your pocket, or leaving on constant charge from your car's head unit.

According to a report here, Apple found that some iPod Nanos can 'overheat and cause a fire hazard' when a request was made by Japan's ministry of economy, trade and industry to investigate.

The original report, published in Tech On, and converted via Babelfish says (and you'll need to excuse the translation) 'According to the same ministry, accident on 2008 January 8th occurred inside Kanagawa prefecture. The product while charging, we assume inside the residence that the spark rose from the battery part. There was no human damage.'

However, Apple's trouble with the government doesn't seem to be strictly related to the exploding iPods, but rather because the company didn't report the incidents to the proper Japanese authorities.

The model affected are MA004J/A, MA005J/A, MA099J/A and MA107J/A. If your iPod seems to be heating up excessively or you notice sparks, you should contact Apple immediately.

The problem isn't confined to Japan -- an American iPod owner also reported to The Consumerist that his iPod exploded, burning his desk and spewing (probably toxic) soot out of its battery. This guy was given the runaround by the Apple Store in his area, which unwisely refused to give him a replacement iPod until they'd sent the burned one to Apple's engineers for investigation.

Now, after the aggrieved customer wrote to Steve Jobs, Apple has issued a blanket notice to its stores and resellers to replace exploded iPods without argument.

On a more positive note, Apple today an 85 percent customer satisfaction rating from the American Customer Satisfaction Index, which represents an 7.6 percent change from last year, and is a full 10 percent higher than Dell in second place. It also shows an increase of 10 percent for Apple since the survey began in 1995, which incidentally was the same year the original Bondi Blue iMac launched.


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CBR1100XX (Cornerstone member):

"Replace exploded iPods without argument" - Apple

So let me get this straight, I have to be burnt first before I get my faulty iPod replaced. Probably having to sign a waiver for any criminal neglect too ! ....... Sheesh Apple, that Satisfaction Index is going to take a battering after the iPhone issues and now this !
(BTW: I bought my iPod at Narita AP in 2006 .... Damn) Now waiting for meltdown :P

20 August 2008, 10:57 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gankul (Cornerstone member):

its highlt doubtful that they would have a lower satisfaction index after this, Mac fanboys would buy a gold paperclip if apple made it. even if it was 10 times the cost.

Just like they have a go at other OS's for needing Service packs and hotfix's, when they have the same thing only they have apparently cool names like snow leopard.

20 August 2008, 1:56 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

My only question is who made the batteries this time... Not Sony again is it?

20 August 2008, 11:30 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

GoughLui (User):

I'm not entirely sure but it would possibly be Samsung ... maybe I'm wrong...

20 August 2008, 1:22 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dwr50 (User):

Apple's quality has been in free fall since 2002, I don't think they have hit bottom yet...but they are getting closer all the time.

21 August 2008, 12:32 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

I do agree, but this particular issue is hardly their own fault... Unless they now make their own batteries.

21 August 2008, 9:28 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gankul (Cornerstone member):

its not, but everyone blamed dell when there battery's had problems and they dont make them.

people also hit their monitors when there computers have problems. people aren't always smart.

21 August 2008, 10:20 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Tin:
do agree, but this particular issue is hardly their own fault...

You seem very lenient when it happens to Apple and yet you would be the first to point out a faulty piece of hardware from MS which had it's batteries made elsewhere ?

I still hold the belief that you are a much better man than Raindog ;)

21 August 2008, 11:13 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Doubt it. I can stand Apple about as much as MS. If MS had a similar problem, I'd say the same.
I don't expect any device manufacturer to go and quality test every battery they use... The supplier of the batteries should be doing their own quality control.

21 August 2008, 11:21 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
I don't expect any device manufacturer to go and quality test every battery they use...

clearly that would be impractical.



Quoting Tin:
The supplier of the batteries should be doing their own quality control.

As should Apple be doing their own routine quality or batch checks, it is after all Apple who has most to lose with such a failure occuring in a product which boldy carries their logo.

And reality dictates it will be up to Apple to demonstrate that such incidents are isolated or their customer satisfaction levels will suffer. A product that survives mostly on perceptions could suffer if the perception of possible physical harm takes on.



21 August 2008, 11:56 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AtticusFinch (User):

Quoting Tin:
I do agree, but this particular issue is hardly their own fault... Unless they now make their own batteries.

If your name is on the front, you are responsible for it, legally and morally.




21 August 2008, 11:24 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
I do agree, but this particular issue is hardly their own fault...

Apple, Dell etc are not devoid of responsibility. Batteries are supplied as part of the product purchased. Particularly in the case of iPod where the battery is sealed inside and cannot be replaced without voiding warranty.

I am responsible for the products I supply to customers, and I would be liable for damage caused by those products. It would be up to me to seek damages from my suppliers to recover costs incurred.

From a consumer perspective all component parts are Apple parts, it is Apple's responsibility to ensure what they supply is fit for purpose and Apples internal issue to deal with sub quality of any supplied component.

Whether its a non compliant PSU, or overclocked CPU in a Yum Cha PC setting fire to the curtains, or a battery fire from Dell Sony or Apple, the responsibility still rests with the suppliers and immediate Manufacturers.

Consumer law is very specific in this regard even in situation where a device has been used outside of manufacturers recommendations.


21 August 2008, 11:29 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Oh, of course... Apple is responsible for handling the replacements, etc. I'm not saying they shouldn't be. They sold the product.

But the actual problem of the batteries being crappy is not their fault. It's the battery manufacturers fault, and I'm sure Apple will be passing on the costs to the battery supplier.

21 August 2008, 12:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
It's the battery manufacturers fault

Yes it is. It will be interesting watch how claims are dealt with. I've generally received replacements from the name brands even if it has been at times begrudgingly.

21 August 2008, 9:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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