Beware of Dodo's "free" broadband

Dan Warne22 June 2007, 2:36 AM

Cut-price ISP Dodo had some exciting news yesterday: free ADSL2+ broadband! Being jaded sceptics though, we had to ask: what's the catch?


Should Dodo go the way of the dodo?Should Dodo go the way of the dodo?
Cut-price ISP Dodo had some exciting news yesterday: free ADSL2+ broadband!

The press announcement simply mentioned that customers would need to switch their home phone over to Dodo and the only cost would be a $32.90 line rental fee.

Sounds pretty good, we thought. Everyone has to pay a line rental fee anyway and most of us are being reamed to the tune of about $30 a month.

"The Australian public has been charged excessive fees for high speed internet access for too long and Dodo is putting an end to this," said Dodo's managing director in a statement.

"The US and UK have had free broadband services available for the last couple of years."

But then we looked at the terms and conditions of the offer. Like many "free" deals, there is a nasty sting in the tail (several actually.)

The "free" broadband offer only includes 150MB of usage. That's long enough for -- get this -- 50 seconds of downloads at full ADSL2+ speed.

After the initial 150MB, downloads are charged at $0.18 per megabyte. The next 150MB will cost you $27.00.

Even worse, the 150MB you do get "free" is "split 50% between 9am and 1am and 50% between 1am and 9am". So you only get 75MB of usage during waking hours before the chargeable megabytes kick in.

In its defence, Dodo has capped the total price of its "free" broadband at $29.95 a month, so at least, unlike Telstra BigPond's $29.95 plan, customers are not exposed to bills that potentially run into thousands of dollars in excess usage charges.

However, Dodo also pins the connection speed right down to the near-dialup speed of 64Kbit/s after you use your initial 150MB, so for the most part, you'll be using glorified dialup and paying through the nose to do it.

I'm evidently not the only person who's unhappy with the way Dodo is presenting its broadband deals to the market.

In the last Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman report (27 March 2007), Dodo is reported as having attracted 4,378 complaints from consumers -- nearly four times as many as OptusNet at 1,030 and nearly twice as many as Telstra BigPond at 2,330. And that was only in the three month period leading up to 31st December 2006.

News of Dodo's customer service woes have started appearing in the mainstream media. Melbourne newspaper The Age wrote recently: "this internet service provider has a clear record of woeful customer service".

One Dodo customer was reportedly forced to cancel his credit card to stop Dodo billing him for a cancelled service, because he was literally unable to contact Dodo's customer service after dozens of engaged signals and unanswered emails.

In fact, at the time, The Age couldn't even contact the company, which has since engaged a PR Agency to paint the company in a more positive light.

Broadband community Whirlpool.net.au's annual survey of satisfaction with broadband providers also showed massive anger towards Dodo in the 2006 survey.

The company scored worst on customer service, with 53% of people saying they had to wait 20 minutes or longer to get a person on the phone (comparable only to another ISP, Wild, which has since gone into administration.)

Furthermore, 61.5% of people surveyed said Dodo's customer service was "below average" or "awful". 45% of people said they'd previously left Dodo because of poor customer service, while 32% said it was because of poor network reliability.

The Whirlpool Dodo forum is overflowing with discussion threads like "I got out of Dodo - thanks for the help" and "can I block Dodo from my bank?"


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tin:

When Dodo first appeared on the scene back when 56K was fast, we used them for a whole 2 months before they kicked us off.

Before we signed up with them, I had emailed them to ask what session limits applied, and whether they had anything against the idea that we might use 1GB or so per month. They said it was fine, and we signed up.
Then they changed the T&C and in a strange move, applied them retrospectively.We were booted off for breaching a policy that didn't exist at the time of the breach.

Never thought much of them since that. At least they are pulling the same silly stunts still.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

webmonkey44:

outrageous!!!???

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sandra_madness:

Last time I looked they also only provided a D-Llink DSL200 modem which is not an always on connection if you turn off your PC. To start the connection you need top create a connection in the "New Connection Wizard" in windows and connect every time you start your PC. Cheap, Nasty and Very Inconvenient. And I have dealt with Dodo CS for a number of customers and it is woefull. Tell the world, dont use DODO.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jarrod Spiga:

iiNet uses the marketing phrase "Those who want faster downloads, say i".

Does this mean that Dodo customers can say "Those who are fooled by 'free' Internet access gimmicks, sah D'oh"?

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

justthething84:

and those who want expensive adsl 1 plans say "i" for iinet.
512k/128k 2GB + 4GB $59.90
ewwwww

oh not to mention that ANNOYING toss on the ad

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Robert:

Lesson here is always read the fine print of every contract (dare we be forced to sign one). Consumers beware, and complain, complain, complain. This sort of marketing campaign is highly misleading, and must be wiped out in Australia. Give the consumer a fair go and a real service - give us cheap ADSL 2 with no traps to make us pay through the nose. We are not sheep ready to be fleeced. Comsumers beware of this one! Ignore this company and it should go away just like every other company which gives such poor service and overcharges, and applies penalty fees. Please shop around, pay a fair amount for a reasonable service and you shouldnt need to purchase broadband with a lock in contract and minimal penalty, maybe a slowdown after 10-15 gig per month (lets be realistic we all like downloads).

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Mr DoDo Hater:

I signed up to DoDo's First broadband deal a few years ago,(not on it anymore, No way! Exetel ADSL FTW =D) 256k broadband and a free Electric Scooter! lol does anyone remember this? anyway the scooter took 6 months to be delivered, it lasted 1week and a half then broke down. Could not contact dodo for a new one as 'you should contact the Scooter maker and deal with them'. Customer Service was horrible, 20minutes minimum if not longer and then when u get through, 8/10 times its a barley-speaking-english foreign speaker.

Dodo = Absolute Rubbish.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Troz:

I'm not sure what everyone is complaining about, What does everyone want? It's a FREE service up to 150mb's, once you reach the limit you simply stop using it.

What do you expect 20gb's shaped to 128k and no fee's what so ever? Geezzzz people demand too much for something that is offered as a FREE service.

Troz

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Adem:

Well this new plan, would only be applicable for people that ONLY and just only check their emails, any surfing or whatsoever on the net, will burst their 75mb limit instantly, not to mention having to pay after that, but like i said, if your only going to check your emails its nice,

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

What is objectionable about it is the marketing advantage that Dodo gets from calling its service "free" but really only offering 50 seconds of usage a month. In reality, the vast majority of people who sign up to this plan will be paying $29 a month, but Dodo will sign up a lot more people, because it is marketed as being "free". 



29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Wes:

The problem is that this a very costly dial-up service. Anybody will easily pass that 75 M limit and then effectively they will be paying so much for what is essentially a dial-up service.

You cannot justify such a service even if it comes with the free tag because its actually very expensive. A lot of people will fall for this I am sure and its not good at all.

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Shaun:

I have a Dodo service for my parents home and use Koala Telecom for home and I can tell you right now that Dodo is 200% better then Koala Telecom. In Whirlpool.net.au's forums for this ISP its nearly 100% hate and i mean prue personalised hate, even there worst employees actually get named which is somthing you dont see in Dodo forum. Atleast with dodo I do not have to call them very often at all I have a massive TIO complaint against Koala on 3 fronts. Its been running for 4 weeks and even looks like it could head to court. You would think I am the exception to the rule...from what i have found out most people that leave Koala usally need the help of the TIO...!

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Koala Uncovered:

I hate my ISP Koala so much i setup a website about them: http://www.freewebs.com/koalauncovered/

My contract epxires in august then im going to either optus or iprimus, im sick of these small companies.



29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gruesome:

koala uncovered:
if you plan to change, take my advice - don't change to primus. i was on a contract with them and it ended up with tio as well.

the modem, which i bought from them, was faulty and they wouldn't admit it - i had to re-set every few times i logged on. tedious!

then they screwed up my billing which ended up with them disconnecting me. only tio got me out of the mess and the contract.

i went straight and bought a wireless modem and signed up with iburst (without a contract). it's the best thing i've done!

on the one occasion they had technical issues in all the time i've been with them, they admitted it and told me they'd ring me back when the problems was resolved. not much longer - they rang me as promised. the honesty was re-freshing.

apart from that, i can walk away from the service tomorrow without being held for ransome by tiresome contracts.

my opinion - don't do primus :-/

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Mike:

Gee, you are stiff mate. Everyone I know are happy with Primus. I been with them since 99 and barring a small hiccup with connection of router, it's been perfect. About to finish a 24 month contract in December for adsl, and will be sure to stay with them. They are not the cheapest (1gb $29.95 ... top-up $5 /gb extra), but if service is important to you, then they definitely give more back for buck from what I see here about other isp's behavior.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Herdmasa (New user):

man, that's gold. love the site. was a great laugh (considering i'm not with them..) enjoy moving to another ISP after the contract finishes mate!

06 August 2008, 3:57 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Robbie:

Whatever happened to the Trade Practices Act? "False and misleading advertising".

I saw the Dodo ad on TV and, it stated FREE broadband and, did not mention any prerequisites of any kind.

Enough reason to ask questions: Are the Govt officials responsible for prosecuting advertising standards so slack that they simply couldn't care less?



29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Martin:

"Caveat Emptor" and reading the fine-print is all very well, but "tin" makes a very good point. A company cannot changes the rules post-contract and apply them retrospectively to penalise customers (even under the contract clause of "the company reserves the right to ..."). Goodness knows how many laws DODO are breaking here !

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Derek:

I have only had 3 issues in two years of subscribing to their service however its impossible to contact them. THe other day they couldnt take money out of my credit card because the number had changed and I forgot to update on their web page. Thank god I forgot because they wanted to charge me a further 85.00 for excess useage. Seems the useage info I have access to online is different to the one they use to bill us with . (thats straight from the horses mouth) so when we mentioned the ombudsman, media, and office of fair trading they credited the account appropriatly. But I am still going to raise my concern with the ombudsman, its really a rought having two different useage measures. I wonder how many people are being ripped off in that manner.

Furthermore, did you know DODO have taken most of their operation off shore? I believe Technical Support is run out of india now.

Discusting. I will be moving to internode very soon.

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bangas:

I have used Telstra Bigpond for many years. I have the cable unlimited plan.
On the whole, I have found Telstra Bigpond to be very good, in comparison to DoDo or even the infamous Koala.
My Grandfather used Optus as well as my older sister.
From what I have heard from them, Optus is not worth the trouble, but still a lot better than DoDo or Koala.

My family has used Optus once before for telephone, but encountered problems with their billing system, and when trying to rectify the situation, encountered more problems with the customer service.

Australia has mass problems with its telecommunications infrastructure, you can't escape this. My advice for anyone, would be, just like buying a Television or a refrigerator, stick with "Brand Names".
The only names I would recommend are Telstra or Internode.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

eugenalba:

this is false representation of fact.
150 meg is peanuts. DODO just dont get it..
why spend huge advertising money.. when you cannot satisfy customers..

.. i have 10 gig with
internode & towards end of the month its used up.. it still continues although at reduced speed at no extra cost.
can say very happy with service and will recommend..

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

o:

I'm one of the victim as well. I think my case is the worst. Cos they've changed the usage statement in order to ask me pay extra money.
Guys~ never use dodo!!!!

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ted:

Just another case it seems....

We had a dial up service with Dodo for 12 months for just $10 month. After 12 months we had to split our Credit card account into 2 cards. We rang Dodo and said that we would now be paying with this new card. We had to go through a long privacy thing to make sure it was really us etc and they said actually we need to make another account for this. 4 months later we notice on our Credit card bill that they had started charging for the new account but were still charging the old account as well. We rang them and they said that it was our fault. I pointed out that there had been zero activity on that account (no dial ins) for 4 months and we should have a refund. They still said that we should have closed the account.

Don't trust Dodo

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Unhappy Dodo Chappy:

What are Dodo up to? For the last few weeks, my supposed unlimited unshaped 512K connection has fallen to dial up speeds between 5.30pm and 11pm daily. Originally believing this to be a problem on my end (virus, adware etc), a little forum hunting discovered that other dodo customers Australia wide are also experiencing the same thing.

Calls made to dodo tech support have been useless as they simply had me do speed tests and said they would look into it, but otherwise are keeping tight lipped with no emails to their subscribers or announcements on their website and no rectifying of the problem. I think the TIO is going to get a flood of complaints over this one.



29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

matty:

i have been with DoDo since 2005 always had a problem with there phone technical help i avoid calling them its really that bad.

But to my problem i have had the a static IP since 2005 of the same IP until 2 days ago.

I have had my IP changed and since then have got major lag and ping on game servers when i am online.

I was told of nothing and didnt even bother calling Tech help,so i emailed them about the IP changing and to my suprise got an email back that night.

It basically said qouting a page from a contract or somthing that all IPs can change and remain the property of dodo internet.

So basically sticking there finger up in my face.

i am not happy now with this service i have paid $99 a month for 1.5mb/256kb unlimited on time all the time no problems and they shaft me like this.

I want unlimited as i run game servers and require alot of GIGs a month or elser could i turn 2.

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

keith brock (New user):

im still with dodo but soon as my contracts up im out of them they dont even send itemised account for your phone so if anyone uses your phone you have to get on the net to see what phone numbers were rung.also my internet was down for 12days they wouldnt even send tecnician to repair it dont recomend them at all from keith brock mildura

07 November 2008, 5:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

honesty (New user):

I have been ripped of by Dodo.

Three months ago, I signed up for their so-called unlimited broadband Internet and since then I have

never had any Internet service from Dodo. They took my bank card detail and took my 45 dollars for

the broadband service and never gave me that service. I was so angry and rang Dodo more than 20

times and all I got was some ridiculous advice from Indian tech people. They kept telling me that my

modem was not working or I put the wrong password and treated me like a complete idiot.

I changed my ISP to Bigpond and now Dodo wants me to pay another 110 dollars to them for the broadband service I have never got from them!

There is no difference between Dodo and burglars.
Do no use Dodo Internet service.
They are thieves!!!


Of course, there was nothing wrong with my modem and I always enter the correct password.


15 November 2008, 11:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Samster (New user):

Hi, Dan. Strongly agree with your analysis, as we've indicated at CSP Central at http://cspcentral.com.au/?p=1280

31 December 2008, 12:26 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Spidypeterson (New user):

My dad has put us on dodo, regretably. we were on 3gb/month, we kept crashing it so we upgraded to 10gb/month. when we were on 3 gig, there was no split usage, none of this on peak and off peak stuff so we assumed that the new plan would be the same. when we changed plan, dodo told us NOTHING of the split usage. we changed over and after the first month we were hit with a $110 bill, when we only used 7 gig. it was not until another month after that the usage meter started appearing on the members page, revealling that we where actually only given 5 gig a month (as we dont browse the net at 1:00 in the morning)

Dodo NEVER said anything about peak hours, its as if they gave us a blank piece of paper and said 'Sign here' and then filled in the rest later.... dont trust dodo!

04 January 2009, 12:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Spidypeterson (New user):

My dad has put us on dodo, regretably. we were on 3gb/month, we kept crashing it so we upgraded to 10gb/month. when we were on 3 gig, there was no split usage, none of this on peak and off peak stuff so we assumed that the new plan would be the same. when we changed plan, dodo told us NOTHING of the split usage. we changed over and after the first month we were hit with a $110 bill, when we only used 7 gig. it was not until another month after that the usage meter started appearing on the members page, revealling that we where actually only given 5 gig a month (as we dont browse the net at 1:00 in the morning)

Dodo NEVER said anything about peak hours, its as if they gave us a blank piece of paper and said 'Sign here' and then filled in the rest later.... dont trust dodo!

04 January 2009, 12:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Kelp (New user):

I recently join DODO on the 12 Feb 2010 on a capped mobile deal, it's been 3 weeks numerous phone calls to DODO (without success) and after they debited my bank account for $100 (including $1.10 direct debit fee)I still have not been able to make contact or received my SIM CARD. I WARN ANYONE THINKING OF JOINING DODO, TO LOOK ELSEWHERE UNLESS YOU WANT CRAP CUSTOMER SERVICE, MISLEADING INFORMATION, ITS NOT WORTH IT, Last but not less ALL YOUR PERSONAL DETAILS ARE SHIPPED TO THE PHILLIPINES, TO THEIR SO CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTRE. NOW IF YOU WANT YOUR ID STOLEN THIS IS THE BEST PLACE

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