Conroy orders surveillance on Whirlpool

David Flynn
23 March 2009, 6:00 PM


The besieged Minister for Censorship is organising surveillance for the popular Whirlpool website, along with others.


Last week he was narked at Whirlpool for its small role in leaking the planned blacklist of allegedly offensive Web sites (which turned out to include a raft of legit sites, among them a Queensland dentist and a school tuckshop service) to be banned under the federal government’s contentious Internet filtering scheme.

This week, Communications Minister Senator Stephen Conroy paid the high-rating community of tech enthusiasts a backhanded compliment when he advised that Whirlpool would be included among the print and electronic media which the Government would be tracking under its new media monitoring strategy.



"Media monitoring is double plus good..."

But don’t be alarmed – this isn’t a further step in Big Brother looking over your shoulder. Media monitoring is part of the modern PR process, employed by governments and private companies alike to keep abreast of ‘the buzz’ – to see who’s saying what about them, their competitors and related industry issues.

It’s one way to tap into the general mood and ‘the vibe’. Staff employees and outside agencies scour through transcripts and clippings for relevant articles, which are collated and distributed to their clients.

Media monitoring has traditionally been restricted to TV and radio stations and print publications, both in the form of mainstream newspapers and magazines as well as more niche titles. But in its tender for the provision of a new media monitoring service, Conroy’s Department of Broadband Communications and the Digital Economy has has expanded this list to include Web sites and ‘blogs’.

A report in The Age cites the department as confirming that "blogs such as Whirlpool" will be among the media watched and read. This puts Whirlpool, already among Australia’s most popular Web sites, up there among the ranks of the influencers.

“Whirlpool … covers a wide range of topics across the telecommunications sector. It and other web sites provide valuable insight into the industries in which we work”, said a spokesman for Senator Conroy.

Ever looking to score points, Opposition communications spokesman Nick Minchin has been quick to trumpet that it was “extreme" to expand media monitoring activities to blogs. Blogs such as Whirlpool provide an open forum … and play an important role in our democracy. Moves to monitor this space seem an unacceptable use of taxpayers’ money.”

Conroy recently congratulated the Singapore government for scaling back its intrusive government surveillance of blogs.

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shrike (New user):

Monitoring is one thing, but what are the chances it will stay at just that? Especially when their monitoring uncovers how unpopular the governments decisions are. If you're monitoring this, Mr Conroy, please resign before you do any more damage to Australia's image.

23 March 2009, 7:00 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jarrod Spiga (New user):

Quoting shrike:
Monitoring is one thing, but what are the chances it will stay at just that?

Actually, there's a pretty good chance that it will stay at just that. This story in particular has been hyped up a bit in the media considering how close the leaking of the blacklist and Whirlpool's takedown notice have occurred.

Media Monitoring falls under the auspices of the Department of the Parliamentary Library, which is completely seperate from the DBCDB. Sure, Conroy can request content from DPL, but so can any politician - and it's been this way for years.

From what I understand of the new request for tender for the DPL's media monitoring system, this is simply an extension to the print publication systems that are already in place in the DPL. In any case, it's nothing that the Wayback machine doesn't alredy do.

I work for the company that currently provides the infrastructure and software for the media monitoring services for Radio and Television to DPL. I can tell you that everything that is broadcast is recorded and stored in a cache where ministers and staff can contact DPL and request for that content to be delivered to their PC via network stream, on VHS tape of DVD or various other formats. As content is stored in the cache, metadata (usually in the form of transcripts, but a names and events database is also used) is added to it in orde rto assist with searching. Want to obtain all TV and radio news stories that make mention of the blacklist and DPL can retrieve it. In addition to the standard cache, news and current affairs programs are usually archived for longer periods of time.

The solution that we have in place has been in place for over 7 years now, and we're looking forward for the next request for tender to be released so that we can continue to offer services to DPL. Regardless, this system has been in place for years and the biggest abuse of the system that I have come across in supporting is is John Howard requesting a DVD of a Bledisloe Cup match.

It's media monitoring. It's happened for years (not just by the federal and state governments either - many big businesses also utilise media monitoring services) and it will continue to happen. The fact that it's now extending to Internet media is long overdue, when you think about it.

So what if Whirlpool is on the list of sites to be monitored. I'd dare say that Mr Conroy regularly monitors Whirlpool himself anyway, without the need to request content from DPL.

23 March 2009, 9:01 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Jarrod Spiga:
Actually, there's a pretty good chance that it will stay at just that.

I wish I could have your confidence, bit by bit all the checks and balances are being eroded.
Sure monitoring is widespread at one time it was called being aware, But AMCA blacklists are something different entirely.


Quoting Jarrod Spiga:
So what if Whirlpool is on the list of sites to be monitored. I'd dare say that Mr Conroy regularly monitors Whirlpool himself anyway,

Well more accurately his minders would monitor Whirlpool. The thing is if Conroy and his dept are monitoring Whirlpool they sure as hell are not taking any notice of the public opinion and expert opinion that is there.



23 March 2009, 9:48 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Well, I'm sure the first thing Conroy will find is that he's not very popular...
I wonder if the second thing he'll find is that Whirlpool has been blocked by his filters after too many people mentioned what they think of Conroy...

23 March 2009, 9:43 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

Quoting Tin:
I wonder if the second thing he'll find is that Whirlpool has been blocked by his filters after too many people mentioned what they think of Conroy...

If Conroy wasn't doing this then someone else would be. Let's get over bashing the one in front of many who are making the decisions.




24 March 2009, 10:25 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting TV Bis:
Let's get over bashing the one in front of many who are making the decisions.

He took the chair, he wants the bouquets of office, the brickbats come too. It's a package deal!
It is the ministers responsibility to inform about and justify decisions made. Where is the communication, where is the justifications and explanations?
As head of the department the buck stops with Conroy for all that happens under his tenure.
Half way through an electoral term his record rates somewhere between poor and pathetic. The word incompetent is probably the most apt description of how Australian communications are currently being handled.

Conroy has been charged with a clear responsibility. How can he justify his attention to all manner of side issues with no visible progress on any of the key communications related election promises put forward.

Rudd Labor is big on calling it's supposed mandates, where is their mandate for blacklists? Why is a variant of small print policy being enacted while key promises remain in unattended disarray?




24 March 2009, 10:54 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halcon (User):

The whole mess is created by the communist labour party led by Kevin Rudd and the gang of evildoers.
This government is harming Australia and depleting the economic resources of the people.
It will be compared to regimes like China, Venezuela and Bolivia; yet all these clowns are doing is their show on TV so everyone think they are working hard for the nation, what a bunch of lazy bastards.
They would prefer a nation of Computer illiterate people.

24 March 2009, 1:32 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

Quoting Halcon:
The whole mess is created by the communist labour party led by Kevin Rudd and the gang of evildoers.

Gee wiz this must mean that most of the Australian population is communist seeing that they are the ones who voted them in the first place.




24 March 2009, 10:27 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

The Big Baboo (New user):

Quoting TV Bis:
Quoting Halcon: The whole mess is created by the communist labour party led by Kevin Rudd and the gang of evildoers. Gee wiz this must mean that most of the Australian population is communist seeing that they are the ones who voted them in the first place.

I didn't vote for them but funnily enough I did vote for "Little Johnny" when he was running for President/Prime Minister/Premier/ Dictator/Chief Poobah or whatever he was.
Isn't it amazing that the Labor Party managed to put this country into debt in less than a year. This amazes me because for many,many years I was a staunch but sober Labor supporter. Ah well,you win some,you lose some.





25 March 2009, 12:04 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Eruaran (New user):

Is that a threat I hear ? Guess who's not going to keep his seat at the next election Mr Conroy !

Class A tard.

24 March 2009, 11:41 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

The Big Baboo (New user):

Hmmmm Might request a bit of the old surveillance on the Mr. Conroy him- self I reckon then we can find out what's he's up to.

25 March 2009, 11:52 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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