After an extensive period in beta, Firefox 3 is finally here.

Don't look now, but Firefox 3 is finally live

Danny Gorog
18 June 2008, 2:11 PM


Firefox 3 is finally here. If you haven't tried any of the beta or release candidates now's the time to head on over to Mozilla and download it.


Mozilla claim, amongst other things, that there are more than 15,000 improvements in Firefox 3, and for the sweet price of nothing, it's definitely worth a shot.

I've been using, and writing about FF3 for most of this year. In my experience, on Mac OS X, the performance and compatibility in general terms is better than Safari, and blows Firefox 2 out of the water.

New features and improvements are everywhere in FF3. From the improved Smart Location Bar that lets you easily find sites you've visited before to the smart password manager that makes logging in to your favourite sites less tedious. FF3 even has a platform-native look & feel (Windows, Mac and Linux).

If performance is your thing, or you're on a slower computer FF3 delivers improved memory management, faster Javascript rendering, faster page loads and a smaller footprint.

For IE users thinking of switching, FF3 can happily coexist but you'll need to select either IE or FF as your default browser. And if you're used to FF3 already, Mozilla have even set up a 'tips and tricks' page aimed at improving your product knowledge.

In September 2007, Ars Technica reported that Firefox market share ranged "between 15 and 50 per cent in various regions." The same article quoted Net Applications and placed the global Firefox market share at "just under 15 percent."

With an already large user base, further growth prospects from version 3, and the public distaste for Vista, Firefox is sure to gain further market share. In fact, since the launch this morning, proof is already in the pudding with a further report noting that FF3 has already been downloaded more than 1 million times within four hours from launch.

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Wazza (New user):

I'm about to download the latest version and install it and will reserve my judgement until then.

I've been using 3.0b4 for about a week now (after some encouranging words from a colleague) and have found it to be a nice quick piece of kit. On Vista is does tend to crash quite regularly though - but hopefully this something they have sorted in the most recent release.

18 June 2008, 3:13 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Discosis (New user):

If you use it, you'll need to install a new version of Firebug - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

18 June 2008, 3:44 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

And if you grab it today (before about 4AM on the 19th AEST), you'll be a part of a world record ;-)

18 June 2008, 5:38 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William151515 (New user):

can you APC people stop saying bad stuff about Vista, some of you write about why it has a bad reputation, and yet you say everyone has a distaste for it, its buggy etc etc, and your just helping people think its bad when there is nothing wrong with it, so long as your hardware is supported, and that your running well within the requirements + room for other applications and your applications are compatible

anyway

just installed firefox 3, on vista home premium SP1, and its running fine, ill have to get used to the new theme though, i liked the older one better (just gotten used to it), lol but there are some nice new features in this version so try it out if your using firefox 2.0, but a downside to upgrading is you will have to wait for new themes to come out for this version, but ad on's like sunjava etc work fine though thats a good start

but overall its a good web browser

18 June 2008, 6:17 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Regular user):

Quoting William151515:
there is nothing wrong with it, so long as your hardware is supported, and that your running well within the requirements + room for other applications and your applications are compatible


Heehee!! :) Nice one :)



18 June 2008, 6:28 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Wazza (New user):

I've got no problem with Vista - little sceptical about FF3 at the moment though

18 June 2008, 6:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Regular user):

what are your complaints? I've noticed that the APC flippers go blurry in FF3 but not any other browser which is weird...

18 June 2008, 8:38 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Complaints: could we start with that extra annoying flash add pop-up that appears over the scroll bar on the APC pages.

19 June 2008, 10:27 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo (User):

Quoting Raindog:
Complaints: could we start with that extra annoying flash add pop-up that appears over the scroll bar on the APC pages.


I agree that those ads are ultra annoying. If nothing else works block mediaonenetwork.net in your firewall.

20 June 2008, 6:04 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog (APC staff):

but that's the point. Most ppls hardware ISN'T supported, and the UI is even more terrible than Windows XP.

19 June 2008, 9:04 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Any OS that tries to 2nd guess or intervene is essentially flawed. Equally any piece of software that attempts to guess rather than respond to the user's commands is flawed. IE7 and later had to be one of the most pressing reasons for those who had not already done so to adopt Firefox.

19 June 2008, 9:34 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting Raindog:
Any OS that tries to 2nd guess or intervene is essentially flawed.

I would agree. Predictability should be number 1. Vista has some great features over XP, but most are implemented in a retarded way...
UAC for example. Every time it decides to prompt me (and I've been running Vista for about 6 months) I still think "Uh oh, BSOD" because the screen goes blank for half a second.
And the Firewall: Now includes very fine grain control in and out, but the stupid user interface for it only supports XP style single rule control, and only effects inbound connections. To get the better control, you have to "just know" that there's a MMC snapin.

19 June 2008, 10:43 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (New user):

Haha, from the way you write in the article, everything is catastrophic for Vista. Please, refrain from linkig everything like that, I'm no Vista fan, and even Me (simple old me) hates your guts already! What's next? Opening of the Beijing olympics to Slow down Vista Sales?

19 June 2008, 6:33 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo (User):

Quoting William151515:
there is nothing wrong with it, so long as your hardware is supported, and that your running well within the requirements + room for other applications and your applications are compatible


I bought a Dell XPS M1530 laptop about two months ago that came with Vista HP and I can tell you my experiment with Vista is about to come to an unhappy end. The hardware isn't the problem: T9300, 4GB RAM, 8600M.

The first thing I did when I got the box was strip out most of the crapware and install SP1. Since it's used basically for essays, browsing, email and DVDs it doesn't run much besides Office 2007, Adobe Reader and a media player. Even so, I've had Vista hang on me at least 6 times, requiring me to physically remove the battery in order to reboot. XP here I come and MS be damned.

I can see bits of Vista that would be nice if it was reliable and properly thought through but it's not, and things like the UAC getting in the way of trivial, non-security related things like manually running the disk defragmenter makes me want to tie up the Vista developers and beat them around the head until their ears bleed. That sort of nonsense would be bad enough if Vista was stable but it isn't.

Anyway, FF3 is noticeably faster on my desktop than FF2, and it seems overall a bit more polished, although not all of my favorite add-ons have been upgraded yet. FF3 on my laptop can wait.

19 June 2008, 1:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

You should be taking this problem up with the place of purchase and their support. I have run Vista since the day it was released with only minor issues which have been resolved by either appropriate drivers or removal of legacy apps. I will never see the point of buying a new piece of tech and installing older OS on it ! You are installing an OS that will be unsupported in about 12 months ..... Sooner or later you will use Vista. The problem with the laptop seems to be software related as you have mentioned you have removed 'crapware'. Some of this crapware may be needed system files !
Customers who have returned to our store with the same complaint have had it resolved with the advice that you setup the laptop as per instructions and do no tinkering until you are more familiar with the new set up. I'm not suggesting that you are newb but I would try this first before I handed it over for a warranty claim .... Good luck !

19 June 2008, 2:16 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William151515 (New user):

Quoting Potoroo:
The first thing I did when I got the box was strip out most of the crapware and install SP1

thats where your problem has started, you used a program like vlite to edit out probably important stuff that vista uses, you cant judge an os on its preformance if you remove its programs and stuff, you can judge it after you have it properly up to date, drivers up to date as well, supported applications running, and supported hardware with supported drivers, after that you can judge its preformance

even if u didn't edit important stuff out, you still shouldn't it can impact on windows performance and mess up when you try and update it



20 June 2008, 2:16 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo (User):

Quoting William151515:
thats where your problem has started, you used a program like vlite to edit out probably important stuff that vista uses, you cant judge an os on its preformance if you remove its programs and stuff, you can judge it after you have it properly up to date, drivers up to date as well, supported applications running, and supported hardware with supported drivers, after that you can judge its preformance


You don't even know what crapware is. I didn't remove any part of Vista. I removed most of Dell's crapware, which is the junk utilities they load on each machine (even when you ask them not to, as I did), using each application's uninstall. I have the latest BIOS and drivers. I am only running supported applications and if you knew anything about laptops you'd know my specs are high end. My conclusion still stands: Vista is garbage and I'm going back to XP because it works. One of the reasons I'm getting out of IT after 25 years of this sort of nonsense is because it simply shouldn't be this hard. Gratuitous advice from children who wouldn't know a properly designed operating system if it bit them only adds insult to injury.

20 June 2008, 6:01 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William151515 (New user):

ah my mistake, thought u were saying that u removed software from vista with vlite, i thought dell stopped putting software onto factory install PCs, i advise a reinstall Dell don't setup their operating systems correctly, they load lots of crap onto it that slows it down and makes it horrable - at least they don't make their cds do that when u reinstall,


so i advise a complete reinstall of vista, and you will be fine, you should of gone with a custom PC, they are so much better then Dells, i will be for my next PC - a dell computer with XP and loaded crapware is also slow, so the blame is on Dell not Vista

20 June 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Using FF makes MS haters feel like they are sticking it to the MAN !
I have never found anything that FF does better than IE. There are differences but none is better than the other. FF is getting just as bloated as IE these days. If you want to use a browser (and lets face it, that's what we are talking about) with a small footprint and minimal resource use .... Try Maxthon !

19 June 2008, 10:47 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William151515 (New user):

lolz i didn't look at the person who wrote the artical,

Danny Gorog, who we all know as an Apple fanatic, i have a message for you, just love the operating system that you use, don't bash the other operating systems, just enjoy using Apple products and leave the other operating systems alone, Apple would have driver problems etc as well if they expanded their hardware range like microsoft has but Apple keep to a small hardware range, and thus they avoid driver problems, but people like to build custom computers and like to have choice in hardware so them people will go for Microsoft, while others will choose macintosh because they like that operating system, or they will choose linux, but what ever your choice is, just use it and like it and don't bash the other choices

20 June 2008, 2:31 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (New user):

It's hardly professional journalism. But i wouldn't be suprised if he was just a Mac Genius or something along those lines.

As a triple booter, Vista, Ubuntu and Leopard are all relatively usable, and have their own merits... i can say that Leopard looks the best visually, but I've found that Ubuntu and Vista are the 2 that i use the most.... simply because Vista has the tools (AutoCAD for one), and Ubuntu is smooth (for me anyways)...

Anyway, back to topic, FF3 is pretty good so far.... no complaints here!

23 June 2008, 4:15 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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