EVERYWHERE MAN: Internode ads lure BigPond customers

Dan Warne
29 March 2010, 1:35 PM


Internode has launched a cheeky ad campaign featuring a blue VW kombi van, pointing out its superior value compared to BigPond.


The two ads will feature on 29 billboards in Sydney and 10 in Adelaide, at a cost of $350,000 to Internode. The taglines are: "Are you being taken for a ride?” and “If you’ve been everywhere man, it’s probably time for an upgrade", and promote Internode's $49.95 plan with 50GB included. By contrast, BigPond's comparable ADSL plan (that does not require a home phone service to be bundled) only offers 2GB of data.

Internode Media manager Tom McQueen said the brief for the ad agency was to target “BigPond refugees”. “We’re telling BigPond customers there is somewhere better to go,” he said.

“The idea behind these ads is to communicate with BigPond customers in areas where they live and travel, and to make them question the value they get from BigPond. We believe Internode Easy Broadband, our most popular home broadband plan at $49.95 a month, offers far better value than similarly priced BigPond plans.

“BigPond has more than two million broadband customers and it’s losing more customers each week than it gains. That represents a significant opportunity for us to expose them to the Internode brand and the value we offer.”

Internode Managing Director Simon Hackett says he is not concerned about overstepping the line legally with Telstra. "We thought that through carefully (with legal advice) before proceeding," he said. "It is our view that there is no trademark on a picture of a blue campervan."

It's the first large-scale advertising campaign the ISP, which is now 19 years old, has ever undertaken. It has traditionally reached its customers via social media avenues like Whirlpool, and has grown its customer-base organically through word-of-mouth. It frequently tops customer satisfaction surveys, such as those run by Choice Magazine and Whirlpool.

Internode has also been an outspoken defender of network neutrality. Internode engineer Mark Newton (acting in a personal capacity, not as a company representative) will debate Communications Minister Stephen Conroy on ABC Radio tonight over the controversial internet filtering scheme.

In related news, Telstra today announced that BigPond Chief Justin Milne had quit the company, and will be replaced by J-B Rousselot, a six-year veteran of Telstra, who will become Executive Director of Voice, Broadband and Media as the company "looks at the next stage of its digital media strategy".


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Chad (New user):

Amazing what is being passed as "news" these days. Are we going to get an article everytime an ISP runs an advertising campaign? or just whenever internode do?

I hate telstra as much as the next person, but Bigpond is clearly advertising a mobile service, and while it is nice to compare the cost of a fixed service to a mobile service, as Hackett would say it is "comparing oranges to apples".

29 March 2010, 2:30 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting Chad:
Amazing what is being passed as "news" these days. Are we going to get an article everytime an ISP runs an advertising campaign?


If it's as funny as this one, then I certainly hope so!


Quoting Chad:
I hate telstra as much as the next person, but Bigpond is clearly advertising a mobile service

Who cares? These ads aren't about comparing Internode to Telstra. They are using the van to grab the attention of Telstra users thinking about switching away.

29 March 2010, 4:30 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Chad:
but Bigpond is clearly advertising a mobile service

A mobile service that Bigpond market as a replacement for fixed broadband. To quote from the NextG site "Use a Network Gateway to create a wireless network around your home".

Would you like to run those comparisons again on that basis and decide which is best value?


29 March 2010, 9:59 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Akira Doe (New user):

Despite the objections to this being "news", I'm glad this was reported because I love the ads and hadn't seen them before.

Although, I could do without the "I've been everywhere man" song that is now playing in my head.

29 March 2010, 2:58 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

funny, the current Telstra comparitive offer is $49.95 for 25gb data (if you have a home phone with telstra)
Its always nice to compare apples with old oranges

29 March 2010, 3:02 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting Pauly:
the current Telstra comparitive offer is $49.95 for 25gb data


Possibly someone missed a digit when typing it... Or they're comparing plans that people are exiting (off 3 year contracts).

29 March 2010, 4:38 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting Tin:
Quoting Pauly:
the current Telstra comparitive offer is $49.95 for 25gb data


Possibly someone missed a digit when typing it... Or they're comparing plans that people are exiting (off 3 year contracts).


$49.95 25 GB Plan came out today - 29/03/10


29 March 2010, 5:48 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TechHead (New user):

See http://www.bigpond.com/internet/plans/adsl/plans-and-offers/ As I read it, the article is correct; $49.95 for 2gb data. You can't even get this great rate (LOL) unless you have a Telstra Home line/phone bundled in for them to overcharge you on as well! Check the link, it is Home ADSL which is what Internode is advertising. The Blue Kombi is just an attention grabber! Internode (as far as I can see, and I don't work for Internode) are not claiming their broadband is wireless.

29 March 2010, 10:25 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chuq (New user):

Mainstream media (AustralianIT, Sunrise/Today show, etc) give news coverage to new Telstra product releases - David Koch and Peter whatisname (the gadget guy) are more or less on Telstra's payroll. What's good for the goose..

29 March 2010, 4:25 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

djsflynn (APC staff):

Great to see Internode finally doing some advertising to build its profile, and especially clever work like this!

29 March 2010, 5:21 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting djsflynn:
especially clever work like this!

It is clever. I wonder if Telstra ever got the irony that persevering with a clapped out Kombi beyond it's time was a good analogy for how they run their copper network?

I know Node did it first but I'd love the dead Kombi theme to permeate through all all the other competitors advertising too.


29 March 2010, 7:26 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting djsflynn:
and especially clever work like this!

It is clever. I wonder if Telstra ever got the irony of the Kombi past it's use by date being an easy metaphor for their past it's use by copper network.

I know Node did it first, but I'd love to see the Dead kombi permeating through all Telstra competitors advertising.


29 March 2010, 7:37 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (New user):

Looks like Internode has finally updated it's billing system. And grown a pair too, though not exactly big hairy ones but a pair nonetheless.

29 March 2010, 7:17 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting agami:
Looks like Internode has finally updated it's billing system. And grown a pair too, though not exactly big hairy ones but a pair nonetheless.

Could be this impending who knows what of an NBN that is looming, has more than a few of the mid sized and smaller ISPs more than a little nervous. Take up of NBN fibre could see a marketplace where the smaller fry really get squeezed.

29 March 2010, 7:41 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (New user):

Quoting Raindog:
...impending who knows what of an NBN that is looming, has more than a few of the mid sized and smaller ISPs more than a little nervous.

No doubt.
I'm surprised to see so many of the small fry ISP's still around. The business plan for most of them is to build a large customer portfolio and then sell. To do so they generally have unsustainable (read unprofitable) pricing plans.




29 March 2010, 7:58 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

siers (New user):

This ad to me would say I can get 50gb of wireless/mobile broadband for $49.95 as the 'Kombi' is Bigpond's advertising 'vehicle' for wireless. I would imagine this would likely generate some issues as nowhere on the add does it mention what type of broadband is being offered.

29 March 2010, 8:22 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Newatch (New user):

Quoting Pauly:
funny, the current Telstra comparitive offer is $49.95 for 25gb data (if you have a home phone with telstra)
Its always nice to compare apples with old oranges

"comparable ADSL plan (that does not require a home phone service to be bundled)"

Internodes plan doesn't need your phone bundled with it so why should they compare it to a telstra plan that does?

Quoting siers:
nowhere on the add does it mention what type of broadband is being offered.

The billboards do say "Internode easy broadband" not "Internode easy mobile broadband" though I do agree as i'm sure that would probably slip alot of peoples minds especially with the suggestion of mobile broadband coming from the kombi even though it is only meant to represent Bigpond not Bigpond wireless.



30 March 2010, 9:53 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

K (New user):

I'm on Internode's Easy ADSL plan, but I'm still waiting for Internode to have ADSL2 in my (Melbourne inner metro) area. I know a few people who were quite happy with Internode customer service but abandoned them due to lack of ADSL2 at their exchange.

29 March 2010, 9:35 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ferdinando (New user):

Quoting K:
I'm on Internode's Easy ADSL plan, but I'm still waiting for Internode to have ADSL2 in my (Melbourne inner metro) area. I know a few people who were quite happy with Internode customer service but abandoned them due to lack of ADSL2 at their exchange.

Bingo. When I complained publicly about the fact that non-Bigpond ISPs cherry pick exchanges, and are a tiny stain on the map of Australia (forget population density, let's look at geographical coverage please), I have been accused of being a communist or worse. In the mean time, in Glenwood NSW 2768, 35 Km from Sydney, you can get ADSL/2+ ONLY FROM Bigpond. Same with wireless at my hobby farm in Wheeo NSW 2583 - the only one that works is NextG (I tried the others, no go).


30 March 2010, 10:21 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Regular user):

Actually, you could get it from Internode, as Internode buys access from Telstra at wholesale and connects customers to the Internode backend network via Telstra ADSL2+ DSLAMs. It's a shame that more people don't know this.

30 March 2010, 5:56 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ferdinando (New user):

Quoting Dan Warne:
ctually, you could get it from Internode, as Internode buys access from Telstra at wholesale and connects customers to the Internode backend network via Telstra ADSL2+ DSLAMs. It's a shame that more people don't know this.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it isn't true for sub-exchanges.
I get 17-19 Mbits with Bigpond, while my friends on Internode can get ADSL1 speeds only (max 8 Mbits).
Internode would have to install a DSLAM on the sub-exchange as well, not just at main exchange level. I had this discussion hundreds of times with Internode, I tried to get it, and my friends neighbours also.




30 March 2010, 6:01 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TechHead (New user):

Quoting Dan Warne:
Actually, you could get it from Internode, as Internode buys access from Telstra at wholesale and connects customers to the Internode backend network via Telstra ADSL2+ DSLAMs. It's a shame that more people don't know this.


Just to verify, I am currently on this Internode plan (which is sourced from Telstra) and my max download speed hovers around 2.1 - 2.3 MBytes per sec. If my math is correct that's around 17 - 18 Mbits per sec, and i don't have to bundle anything!

I have been with Internode for many years and their service has been first rate. I have never had to bundle (repeated on purpose) or pay ridiculous startup or inflated monthly fees and they don't stuff you around on the phone if you need help.

I'm happy that their ads might help others to see that they can get something better. I don't work for Internode or own shares or anything, just a satisfied customer.

13 April 2010, 2:11 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ferdinando (New user):

Quoting TechHead:
st to verify, I am currently on this Internode plan (which is sourced from Telstra) and my max download speed hovers around 2.1 - 2.3 MBytes per sec. If my math is correct that's around 17 - 18 Mbits per sec, and i don't have to bundle anything!

That is great for you. It doesn't change the fact that in Glenwood NSW 2768 you can get ADSL/2+ only from Bigpond, confirmed by my friends on Internode able to get only ADSL1 there (8 Mbits max). In addition, in my hobby farm in Wheeo NSW 2583, I can get wireless internet only through Bigpond again (I tried to get it from Exetel using Optus network, nothing, not even with a huge yagi antenna on the roof). With Bigpond a small whip antenna and pronto - great signal and speed.

Australia is a BIG continent, and nobody gives a rat about population density except ISPs trying to make a profit. When travelling around, you want to have coverage based on GEOGRAPHY, not on POPULATION DENSITY.

God bless the National Broadband Network for trying to resolve the problem that 90% of the Australia geographical territory must be connected at A FINANCIAL LOSS.

13 April 2010, 6:37 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TechHead (New user):

Love this Ad!

29 March 2010, 10:12 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

GDavid (New user):

+1- Great advertising, (sucks to be with bigpong ;)

02 April 2010, 11:44 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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