First Windows 8 snippets "leak" out from Microsoft

Geoff Spick
29 June 2010, 7:48 AM


A confidential presentation gives us some clues as to what to expect from the next version of Microsoft's desktop operating system. But are they true or false?


You would have thought that after the Apple iPhone 4 drunken-bar-discovery debacle, the Sony PSPGo pre-launch leak own goal and endless other tech disasters, that anything relating to a company's important future project would be written down on rice paper and the executives forced to eat them after every meeting.

Instead, Microsoft has tried to hide its plans for Windows 8 by writing "confidential" and "under NDA" over a few PowerPoint slides in the hope that the collective Internet wouldn't notice. Assuming they are genuine, and the source seems to be Francisco Martin Garcia, a Windows VIP Tester, and someone from HP, this appears to be the case, then they make interesting reading.


Inside the machine, how Microsoft plans to take the best of Apple and others

The document pages (still live at the time of writing) are all rather high-concept, and are rapidly being splashed across the Web. They highlight how Apple has succeeded, where Microsoft should focus and what it needs to do to succeed. From logging on being done by facial recognition software and a camera, to appealing more to consumers, it covers a wide range of ideas (and at this stage, that's all they are).

Another idea is that of a built-in application store (stop us if you've heard this before) to make buying programs, games and content far easier. 3D and multitouch is mentioned and would make for a fun, if short-term-use user interface, while multiple sensors would allow for other levels of interaction (proximity and so on). None of the proposed concepts will make your head explode with their originality, but it seems that the next Windows will cater for all device types (although mobile isn't mentioned) and all levels of user.

With the company back on the ball and being seen to succeed with Windows 7, it looks like the Microsoft can now sit back and experiment a bit more with its next OS opus. What would you like to see in Windows 8 that would make you sit up and take notice?

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todd_h86 (User):

Quote "What would you like to see in Windows 8 that would make you sit up and take notice? "

A revised user interface, I know it is very doubtful it will change to much as it would put too many people off side, but how about 3D desktops and a different start menu structure?

29 June 2010, 11:13 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

Quoting todd_h86:
but how about 3D desktops and a different start menu structure?

Why?




29 June 2010, 8:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Online software store? Wasn't that supposed to be in Vista?

The rest will probably drop before RTM because it lack of time...

29 June 2010, 11:40 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (New user):

I'd like to see a new kernel, preferably a microkernel implementation, an improved hypervisor layer that can also behave like a 21C HAL, a complete OO design with C# objects and a meta-based messaging system that would replace the archaic registry, an extended and pervasive Direct(n) based API system extending to UI objects, a single server version and a single user version which are licensed per object class installed.

Looks like a lot, but if I had Microsoft's resources I'm certain I could have it cooked in 18-24 months.

29 June 2010, 12:17 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting agami:
a single server version and a single user version which are licensed per object class installed.


Of all the things Windows needs, it is this... You just buy "Windows Client" or "Windows Server" and be done with it. If you want 4 virtual machines, you buy 4 copies.

29 June 2010, 3:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

I'd like to see a new kernel, preferably a microkernel implementation, an improved hypervisor layer that can also behave like a 21C HAL, a complete OO design with C# objects and a meta-based messaging system that would replace the archaic registry, an extended and pervasive Direct(n) based API system extending to UI objects, a single server version and a single user version which are licensed per object class installed

Agami would you like to write this in English so the rest of us know what you are talking about.

29 June 2010, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

FostWare (New user):

Quoting TV Bis:
Agami would you like to write this in English so the rest of us know what you are talking about.


He said "OS/2"


30 June 2010, 2:03 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

J876 (Regular user):

An Operating System should be just that. A platform so that other software can access the hardware, networks and peripherals with a good user interface. Cram to much uneeded features into it and your brand new PC will run like a V8 with one cylinder.

Microsoft have learned their lesson the hard way with Windows Vista and Windows Millenium Edition.

Microsoft needs to do the basics right in software development, writing efficient code and testing their software properly.

Windows 7 so far works well. Hopefully Windows 8 does too.

30 June 2010, 9:10 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnthonyBrisbane (User):

No useless stuff like facial recognition(which if you print out a photo and hold it in front of your face it will log you in as the other user) or 3D desktops. The ability to completely uninstall (not just disable or remove the icon) stuff like Internet Explorer, touch(as no desktop user will ever need touch, it's just for portable devices). It'll be good if Microsoft could cram as much software onto the DVD as possible for novice users, but nothing but the base OS should be required to be installed.

30 June 2010, 11:20 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

scruffy (User):

How about being able to copy files as quickly as XP!

Oh, and support for 8 TV Tuners would be nice.

30 June 2010, 1:20 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tony Grooby (Cornerstone member):

This looks like a vista project all over again. And I bet it will be windows 9 to clean it up.

30 June 2010, 4:15 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tom Mez (New user):

Ubuntu rocks ......

30 June 2010, 10:23 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tom Mez (New user):

Ubuntu Rocks, forget Windows ....

30 June 2010, 10:25 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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