First look at Dell's Ubuntu boxes

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Ashton Mills07 June 2007, 6:23 AM

A chap in the Ubuntu forums in the States has nabbed a Dell Ubuntu box and given it a good once over. Here's our take on what's in the kit and what it could mean if the machines ever make it to our shores.


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No, we don't have one -- they're not available in Australia, remember -- but now they're on sale a chap in the States on the Ubuntu forums has nabbed one given it a good once over. If you don't frequent the forums, read on for our take on what's in the kit and what it could mean if the machines ever make it to our shores.

Surfing the Ubuntu forums (what, doesn't everybody?) revealed a great summary of one of the new Dell Ubuntu systems by on one benanzo, here.

The hardware specs are reasonable (considering it's an XPS) but what's more interesting is whether Dell bundled Ubuntu as-is or tailored the distribution for its kit.

Well, the first issue benanzo encountered was an incorrect display resolution. Now, where have we heard that before? At least, however, the default resolution of his monitor was available in the screen resolution dialog and, to be clear, this is an issue with Ubuntu and not Dell.

The kernel version as reported is actually one point release newer (and current) than the one shipped with Ubuntu 7.04, so obviously Dell has done at least one update for the OS image over the 7.04 release.

One cool feature is the recovery mode, which understandably pulls from a full Ubuntu image stored on a FAT32 partition. Nice touch, and congruent with other recovery systems from Dell.

But, above all else, the most awesome feature of all in benanzo's breakdown: no pre-installed crapware. Awww, poor Linux can't run all that sponsored tripe Dell sells its customers down the river for!

All up, it sounds you get exactly what you pay for, which is nice -- a Dell system with Ubuntu pre-installed. But that's the most pertinent point of all -- just how much do you save going for an Ubuntu machine over a Windows one?

Again, the systems aren't available yet so here's a quick summary of US prices of machines with the same hardware (both machines were configured identically in the product configuration dialogs):

Dell XPS 410 -- Vista Home Premium -- $US1199 ($US1398 with Ultimate)
Dell XPS 410n -- Ubuntu 7.04 -- $US1099

That's a difference of $US100 for Home Premium or $US299 for Ultimate. Not a bad saving, especially in comparison to Ultimate -- one fifth of the price shaved off. Money in the tin, or to be spent on more powerful hardware you wouldn't be able to afford with the Windows box. Of course, even with Dell's buying power, the exorbitant pricing of Vista by Microsoft in Australia would see an even greater difference for Australian customers were the machines on sale here, making them an even more compelling sale.

Because lets be clear here -- the biggest selling point for the Ubuntu machines isn't Ubuntu itself, it's how much you as a new PC buyer can save. When Joe Blow asks 'Oohh it's cheaper, but does it do everything Windows does?' the answer is 'Bar playing games, yes' and so who wouldn't go for it? Invariably, cheap always wins in the mass market and with the all the bad rap Vista has garnered this could be a further kick in the nether regions of Vista adoption for Microsoft.

Assuming, that is, the machines are promoted well and people are made aware -- for now, you have to squint on Dell's main product page to find the new Ubuntu PCs. Take a look on the left hand side, under Essential Links -- 'Open-Source PCs'. You can't choose Ubuntu as your OS through the main product dialogs when selecting a machine, Windows is the only option -- this is, to be sure, piss poor: You've made the decision to go with it Dell, you're either behind it or you're not. Why hide it in a sidebar? Surely as the latest innovation from Dell, it should plastered all over the front page. What's that saying about lights and bushels? :)


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Gavin OS:

An interesting review, with good detail and updates/corrections. Resolution wouldn't be a problem with a Dell display.

Here's another review http://technocrat.net/d/2007/6/1/20868 via DistroWatch Weekly.

Hope there are more satisfied customers spreading the word.

webmonkey44:

I'd have it if I had enough money.

tin:

I think it's probably worth noting when comparing prices that Ubuntu has pretty much everything Vista Ultimate has, and then some...

All it's missing is the annoying stuff adn the price tag ;-)

Stephen Wilson:

To add to the last comment... in the price comparison, add the cost of Microsoft Office to Vista (because Ubuntu comes with OpenOffice) and the cost of Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro (because Ubuntu comes with GIMP) at the very least. That pushes the price difference even wider, by several hundred dollars more!

rkl:

Sorry, but you can't add the cost of an office suite and graphics package to the comparison of Windows vs. Ubuntu, because OpenOffice.org and The GIMP are available for free on both platforms. Even the need for anti-virus software on Windows doesn't help, because there are several very good free ones for personal use (e.g. AVG).

I think a bigger benefit of Ubuntu software is that it's much, much easier to find, install and update software from their repos than the awful way you have to hunt around 12 different vendors' Websites for the Windows software you want.

Then there's a myriad of Windows install methods and, to cap it all off, a wildly varying set of methods of updating said Windows software (ranging from no updates at all, to update notificiation only, to full download/update built-in to incremental download/update built-in). Sorry, but Ubuntu and other Linux distros have long since overtaken Windows on the app install/update front.

raindog:

Come on Dell AP , if you bring them we will buy. Get your collective acts together, we want Linux Dells now.

belal1:

Why is your price so high? Was that Default configuration or did you configure the system yourself? The Ubuntu Desktops are 599 and 849 respectively... 

Anonymous Reader:

Yes, the systems are hidden on the product page, and yes, it would be great to have Ubuntu listed as a standard OS choice on every system (along with Windows XP - it is now relegated to a special section just like Ubuntu). But to Dell's credit, when I go to the very front page (www.dell.com), I see a banner that changes every few seconds. Each time I have visited, the first frame has always been "By Popular Demand. Ubuntu Has Arrived. The Dell community spoke, and we listened. The Linux-based operating system is now available for work or home." Clicking on the banner takes you to www.dell.com/open. I think that's great for starters. Still, it will really make me happy when I see "OS: Ubuntu Linux [subtract $100]" and "Office Productivity Software: OpenOffice.org 2.2 - includes Base [Included in Price]" in a standard system configuration.