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Somedude123 New user 4 posts Posted: 09/05/2011 5:05 PM

Case: CoolerMaster CM Storm Scout PSU: Antec EarthWatts 650W Green CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 1280MB Overclocked MOBO: ASRock P67 Pro3 Motherboard B3 RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 Hard Disk: Unsure need to verify if I'm missing anything to run a computer and also some recommendations if my build can be made better in anyway. This is my first build and I'm kind of new to building computer, sure I've installed a couple of graphics cards but thats about it. I've also heard that voltages on certain ram can degrade CPUs etc... if theres anything I need to know please tell me. Thanks! Budget is around 1200 give or take 100 PS If something is uncompatible please tell me PS2 Whats a good store near Hornsby that sells hardware at decent prices, used to go to MSY at Ultimo when I lived in the Eastern Suburbs, but now I've moved EDIT: Case: CoolerMaster CM Storm Scout PSU: Antec EarthWatts 650W Green or Corsair HX-850 Power Supply CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 570 1280MB Overclocked MOBO: ASUS P8P67-M PRO Motherboard B3 RAM: Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 Hard Disk: 2TB 7200rpm, SSD (apparently have a bad reputation for corrupting etc. heard from a couple of friend it isnt worth the time, theirs broke within 1 year) Is using PC Case Gear cheap $60+10 to ship all of these? I may need SLI to run games better in the future but my computer's native resolution is only 1650 by 1024 (22 inch). Getting a better PSU and mobo with SLI support because of this. Is this a good idea? Kind of new to budgeting etc.. Last time I got ripped off pretty bad from MSY with a pre built system, no computer knowledge whatsoever back then paid around 1100 for something owrth around 800

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ss-rotel User 674 posts Posted: 10/05/2011 10:05 AM

there are only REALLY 5 parts to a computer Case and PSU, Motherboard, CPU, RAM, HDD, video card. OK 6, CD-ROM/DVD burner. Which you have forgoten now-a-days, you probably wont use that much, so a cheap one will do. Personally i would run a slightly bigger PSU, say a Corsair TX-750, Antec 750 True power, or a ThermalTake Toughpower XT 775 i know they are expensive, but for longevity of the system, it's worth the extra. Personally, i've never skimped on a PSU, and i've never had one fail. AND before you say, "that sounds like overkill" if you decide you wanna run a second 570, you'll need the extra power.

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Somedude123 New user 4 posts Posted: 10/05/2011 3:05 PM	thanks, I'll probably use my old DVD drive, thanks for the tip on the PSU, I'll get a Corsair TX750, but what motherboard will I need if I want a 6970, because I want to record with fraps and do a fair bit of video editing, is 570 the better choice? and if I crossfire/SLI in the future what is a reasonably priced motherboard?
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Chris.Lampard Why spend when you can o/clock ? User 148 posts Posted: 10/05/2011 5:05 PM

Hey Dude, Its a nice starting build if i would change anything it would be the case the a CoolerMaster CM690 II Advanced to save yourself there and also i would go for 1.5V RAM myself. other than that the GTX 570 will smash the HD6970 once its been OC'd however the HD6970 allows Eyefinity from 1 card and the GTX 570 does not you will need 2 cards to run a 3 monitor set-up. PSU wise i am very partial to the CoolerMaster GX750W i run this with a OC'd Phenom II X6 and a HD5870 OC'd with eyefinity and it never skips a beat and you will save another $50 there for the PSU. With the $130ish i saved you there you would be wavering very close to getting a SSD if possible as this will make the most difference to your experience even a 60gig boot drive will make a massive performance leap.

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Somedude123 New user 4 posts Posted: 10/05/2011 6:05 PM	just wondering should I get better PSU to make sure it is futureproof (keeping this for at least 3 years) is a HX 850 enough to SLI without OC? and also is it a bit of a overkill for my current system?
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ss-rotel User 674 posts Posted: 10/05/2011 10:05 PM

i'm running a TX950, with 2x GTX465's in SLI, with QX9650 @ 4.1ghz on an ASUS Striker @ Formula board. OH, and 4x 150gb WD Raptors, and a Blueray burner. and i personally think THAT's a little overkill. 850 should be more then enough. to answer your question about what mother board will support a 6970, all current P67, that will take a 2nd video card will be crossfire ready, so will take the 6970 without issue. You have to make sure that the motherboard you are getting specifically states it supports SLI. the chipset will support it, but the manufacturer has to pay for a license for it to be enabled. hence all the cheap boards aren't SLI. also, it looks like the Z68 chipset has just been released, something to look into if you wanna go crazy :)

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Somedude123 New user 4 posts Posted: 11/05/2011 3:05 PM

thanks, will that be on the latest APC? mine hasn't come yet so I gotta wait. Googling it now, so HX 850 is more than enough? Sorry for all the questions since its my first build, don't really want to screw up at all um.. really can't afford to. D: EDIT: Um... just wondering is PcCaseGear reliable and safe? EDIT 2: So Z68 only gives you the ability of OC'ing both CPU and integrated graphics, let you run discrete with integrated running? What is SSD caching?

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ss-rotel User 674 posts Posted: 12/05/2011 11:05 AM

Somedude123 wrote: thanks, will that be on the latest APC what? you talking about the PSU? the Z68 boards? or my computer? My comp - unlikely Z68 board - Maybe, i don't know. i found, like, yesterday the Gigabyte Z68 board was on the market, (Gamedude website), and i've actually been trying to find a review on it, but there's really been nothing out there... The Z68 chipset release date was the 7th or 8th of May, so it's interesting that boards available in OZ. AND it's wicked. My boss decided yesterday, (hence the searching), he wanted a new desktop machine, and, as an example, windows install, on 2x WD 500 sata 3 Caviar Blues, in RAID Stripe, install from a USB key, took, about 5 mins, (no exageration). Would have taken less had he used my EXT HDD installer too... Somedude123 wrote: Sorry for all the questions since its my first build, don't really want to screw up at all um That's ok. At least you have the sence to ask said questions Somedude123 wrote: Um... just wondering is PcCaseGear reliable and safe? Chris swears by them. I personally haven't had need to use them, but i will soon enough. and i think they are local to you? more so then to me and chris, in sunny QLD Somedude123 wrote: So Z68 only gives you the ability of OC'ing both CPU and integrated graphics, let you run discrete with integrated running? What is SSD caching? H67, P67 and Z68 will let you OC a CPU, and in turn the GPU, BUT the Z68 will let you access the GPU processor to encode/decode media, (movies). On this site somewere there is a comparison when Sandybridge was first released, were they converted to MP4 from an AVI a movie. Stock i5 tooke 2 mins or something, ATI and nVidia excelereated took 1 min, and the GPU we're talkin about took 8 seconds. The downside it that once you add a video card to a system, that GPU on the chip os turned off, so you can't access this accelleration. The Z68 lets you, but only for encoding/decoding. you're not ACTUALLY using it as a graphics card, more a math's co. Would bee cool if someone workes out how to tap into it for physics. SSD caching caches data that you use frequently onto an SSD to make read times faster. kinda really technical to explain, but if you goto this article in Toms hardware, you should get the idea. ACTUALLY, they have just posted this artcle which touches on overclocking with therotical OC of 5.7ghz on the K serious chips. Hate to see what you need to use to cool that. The QX9650 chip has been OC'd to over 5.6GHZ, Liquid Nitrogen cooled...

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Chris.Lampard Why spend when you can o/clock ? User 148 posts Posted: 12/05/2011 5:05 PM	All i have to say is pccasegear have never once wronged me and thats alot of service from me as i refer all people who ask to them, i should ask for a discount LOL, ill give an example, my mother wants a new keyboard and mouse, we purchased 2pm friday, recieved email at 3.30pm saying item had been shipped, recieved item 10am monday morning, now thats service. Chris.
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ss-rotel User 674 posts Posted: 13/05/2011 10:05 AM

Chris.Lampard wrote: we purchased 2pm friday, recieved email at 3.30pm saying item had been shipped, recieved item 10am monday morning, now thats service Service? or the guy in the warehouse needed something to do :) Oh, and i was doing some research last nite, and i stumbled over a vid of a korean Overclocking a 990x to 7ghz LN2 cooled. CRAAAZY. CPU was running @ -130degC Sorry, completely off topic

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