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Posted: 19/02/2009 2:02 PM
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The blogosphere loves Windows 7. We put it through its paces to see if it fully addresses Vista’s failures. What do you think of Windows 7? Will you skip Vista all together?
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Posted: 19/02/2009 2:02 PM
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Running the beta in VMWare and apart from the eye candy, I can't see much in operational improvements.
I will get it, of course, because I'm a Windows Gaming Whore ;)
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IT the final frontier
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Posted: 19/02/2009 3:02 PM
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I have tried out the beta in a DELL Optiplex GX 260, Pentium 4 processor with 1GB of memory and 200GB Hard Disk.
As this system is a 32 bit type, I see no problems running the OS on this kind of Processor.
The only concern there will be six variants of the software compared with Apple OS X one size to fit all.
Why not make this Operating system available for free, then just charge for support when needed?
Some Linux distributions do this, for the small, medium and large companies.
Microsoft still can make money out the other products.
Some people I have talked to have said to be disoriented why they should keep buying the OS when this is an integral part of the computer.
Many people can't afford to buy this essential software, they resort to buy a pirated copy of the program.
With the Linux model of distribution, the program is free to use on as many computers, the program disc can be given away to friends and relatives.
I feel moved for this kind of heroic approach, if everyone thinks for a little moment, there should be an opportunity to donate for this noble cause with whatever amount of money small or great, to compensate the great effort of the people behind the program.
I don't deny Windows is still preferred over Linux, but is a totally disgrace that one big company try to get rich at the expense of those who have hardly won a salary just to bother for a program that will become obsolete later and then buy a new version just because the new one has better features, this is a waste of money anyway!
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Posted: 19/02/2009 3:02 PM
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me in oz there r tones of features that you can only get while having an actual installation not vming it but they are mostly graphical
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Posted: 22/02/2009 5:02 PM
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"James Bannan judges the new OS [Windows7] with the cold eye of a system administrator" runs the byline for this article. A more accurate tag would have been "judges the new os with a one-eyed view of a seasoned Microsoft apologist".
Case in point he starts the article off thus: "Windows 7 is Microsoft's next-generation operating system". Ermmm... no, it isn't. Vista is Microsoft's "next generation operating system", or was supposed to be. And as everybody - except James Bannan, evidently - knows, Microsoft made a complete mess of it. Windows 7 is, as the rest of the article makes clear, a tidy-up-the-mess job; some tweaks here and there, shed a little weight, gain a little performance... and that's it. And there is nothing "next generation" about any of that.
Here's what Bannan has to say about netbooks: "The netbook market...hasn't been able to take advantage of the latest operating systems: by default they are licensed either for a vendor-specific build of Linux or XP".
See how Linux is lumped together with XP; i.e. in the "obsolete" pile? Who cares if your netbook Linux distro is only 6 months old? It can't possibly be modern - let alone "next generation" - because it didn't come from Microsoft. At a guess, I'd say that the author didn't actually intend this sleight-of-hand when he typed this out. He simply doesn't have the perspective to distinguish between what's good for Microsoft and what's good for the world at large.
On the subject of Microsoft's much detested User Account Control (UAC) feature, Bannan gets himself into a real mess. Microsoft's original plan for Windows 7 (since changed, I understand) was to allow the user to dial down the feature so the user never sees any warning prompts at all. Deep down, the author knows that this is a bad idea, and, to his credit, says so in the article. Yet he still can't bring himself to take Microsoft to task for this and concludes the UAC section thus:
"Although not very secure, this last option [not prompting the user at all] is still more secure than disabling the UAC completely, so Windows 7 essentially offers a more secure user environment without in-your-face prompting".
No explanation given as to why this might be. It just *is*, okay? Even if it lets every worm and virus out there do exactly what the **** it wants, well it's still good to know that the UAC is still there in the background, doing ... well, what exactly?
One valid point Bannan makes is that 7 is likely to succeed in business because it isn't Vista. But the way he "reasons" himself to that position defies belief:
"Give them[users] an OS which they've heard bad things about and they'll be on the phone complaining... However, provide them with an OS which is more popular, well liked...and they'll be far more likely to give it a go."
Got that? Vista's bad reputation came about because people heard "bad things" about it. Users certainly wouldn't have concluded that it's rubbish all on their own, no sirree. Conversely, Windows 7 will be a roaring success just as long as nobody hears anything bad about it, and with the likes of James Bannan on the case, you can rest assured that they're not going to!
Can anybody at APC tell me how much of my $9.95 cover price finds its way into the pockets of James Bannan each month? I would like a refund, please. Microsoft can pay for its own marketing material.
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What line breaks?
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Posted: 26/02/2009 11:02 AM
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tim2hawkes wrote:
me in oz there r tones of features that you can only get while having an actual installation not vming it but they are mostly graphical
Yep... All the rest is the same as Vista... Slow network transfers, annoying UAC (though an improvement), mangled new interface.
Edit: Personally I'm more likely to switch to 7 than I was for Vista. At least it's not 10GB installed. However the horrible new taskbar and the fact no file I/O speeds have improved is a disappointment.
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Feed me.
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Posted: 26/02/2009 7:02 PM
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Tin wrote:
Yep... All the rest is the same as Vista... Slow network transfers, annoying UAC (though an improvement), mangled new interface.
I agree with that. I don't get why everyone is so excited about Win 7. It just looks like a slightly more refined version of Vista to me. It -is- good to see Microsoft adopting an OS X Dock-like taskbar, but that's still a pretty small improvement in the scheme of things.
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Why is the tag-line so damn shor
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Posted: 26/02/2009 7:02 PM
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Dan Warne wrote:
I don't get why everyone is so excited about Win 7.
I know I'm not. There is still many issues to address both with the product and it's market delivery.
There is still plenty of good reasons to cling to older Windows versions or to look at alternatives. From the standpoint of small to medium systems it is still overblown and expensive for what is delivered. With Office and in particular Outlook losing favour, the days of "it must be Microsoft" are coming to a gradual close.
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Penguin In Training
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Posted: 02/03/2009 11:03 AM
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Hi guys :) Hi Dan :) Now call me an old fuddy-duddy (Cheers and derision in background ) but I'm going to hold on to WinXP as long as I possibly can :) They're going to have to pry it from my dying fingers with a meat cleaver and even then I'll take them down screaming. Hope everyone had a cool and Happy New Year and I'll see ya round the traps.
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IT the final frontier
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Posted: 02/03/2009 7:03 PM
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The Big Baboo wrote:
I'm going to hold on to WinXP as long as I possibly can :) They're going to have to pry it from my dying fingers with a meat cleaver
Your phrase is almost same as Charlton Heston did said when he was president of the American firearms owners "...they are going to take it from my dead cold hands"
I will hold and see if its worthy or not to buy it.
What I don't like from Microsoft, is that they still push the users to the edge with that stupid validation; aren't they happy with online activation and the usual 25 characters product key to be type every time we install any MS product?
I can still hold on to XP and I will try to use the latest Linux distro, Fedora project is my preferred, I can't get it right with ubuntu yet.
Never I liked the arrogance of this company, I hope the Linux community will win over MS.
well let's see what will happen next.
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