Intel Viiv + Vista: what a mess!

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James Bannan25 February 2007, 5:02 AM

Is your shiny Viiv system ready for Vista? Probably, but getting it there won't be a walk in the park. Vista drivers? Not tonight, dear, I have a headache.


Over the last couple of months I’ve been installing Vista on various platforms – some of them lumbering Frankenstein-esque machines of my own creation, while others are sleek and shiny systems with "Intel Viiv" and “Vista Ready” logos proudly emblazoned on the front.

However, I've been asking myself continually, what exactly does “Vista Ready” mean?

So far, it seems to mean that the system will run Windows Vista, but purely from the perspective of driver support – it has little or no bearing on user experience.

I've had disappointing experience when installing Vista Ultimate on an Optima Viiv Media Centre.

Unlike many manufacturers, Optima released proper Vista drivers for this system reasonably quickly after Vista's release, although being a Viiv system all of the drivers were pulled straight from Intel’s Download Centre (a distinct advantage of Viiv).

Impressively, even drivers which weren’t available from either the Optima or Intel site (like the Instant-On driver) were automatically picked up via Windows Update.

But the Viiv software itself was notoriously difficult to chase down. The download on both Optima’s and Intel’s sites was the Viiv 1.5 – 1.6 upgrade. In other words, you have to have Viiv 1.5 already installed to use 1.6 (which is the official Vista-supported version) and the full 1.5 version is only available to install on Windows XP MCE 2005.

Rather naively, I decided to try using the system with Vista without chasing down Viiv, seeing as how there was a global conspiracy to prevent me from installing it.

Well was THAT a mistake. Instant-On was more like Instant-Crash or Instant-Freeze. I basically had to use the system as a standalone device rather than an integrated HTPC – it was a painful, painful experience which sent me scurrying back to XP (and researching alternatives like MediaPortal and MythTV on the way).

I got in touch with Intel to find out why the whole Vista-Viiv experience had been such a drag, and what I or any other user could do to get around it. Their response was:

“Intel makes the full install of 1.6 available to PC OEMs to post on their websites as the majority of consumers go to their sites for product support. While our site only shows the upgrade version, a full install version is available from Intel Customer Service. To get access consumers need to call in and respond to a few questions to confirm that they have an IVT device. Customer Service then provides the consumer with the link to the full upgrade. “

This solution does rather feel like jumping through hoops in the hope someone will throw you the biscuit they took away from you in the first place.

Users are now at the mercy of manufacturers who, as a group, don’t seem to have managed Vista’s release all too well.

I know of quite a few manufacturers of “Vista Ready” systems who haven’t posted a link to a single Vista driver.

Still, if your OEM hasn’t posted the full Viiv install you can at least contact their support lines and ask them for it: “Intel said that they sent it to you, so where is it, huh?” or just go straight to the source and get it from Intel.

I still don’t understand why overall support for Vista is so patchy. Perhaps it has been so long since a major upgrade of Windows that OEMs are out of practise? "Vista drivers? Not tonight, dear, I have a headache."


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tin:

Microsoft pull the same stunt too. There's often patches for some of the less common issues with Windows, yet MS don't publish them online, they tell you to call the support number and (in my words not theirs) try to convince the support person to let you have it.

It stinks, and no company should do it. Do they think no one posts these for download elsewhere? They would be very silly if they do.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

stevose:

I have an hp m8080a mce computer which came loaded with vista and had the full backing of hp- well thats what i thought when i bought it.

I have never actually been able to connect to a wireless network (which i thought was the whole point of viiv) and have had technicians out to replace both the wireless network card and the motherboard to try and fix this issue. i have also reinstalled drivers left rigth and centre and performed system restores all under the completely useless direction of hp tech support (i have spent approxiamtely 36 full hours on the phone with these guys trying to resolve this)

I still have no resolution to this matter and believe that it is probably a driver issue as i can receive wireless signals but simply can't connect to them.

I gave up and am organising a complete replacement of the computer, perhaps i'll have better luck with the second one- if not then i'll be asking for a refund and some compensation for my wasted time!

29 February 2008, 8:38 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply
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garry weil:

I would have done a clean install. Which type did you do?

29 February 2008, 8:38 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Keith:

Thanks for the help. I was trying to install Viiv on my new custom built Vista platfrom, but couldnt install 1.5 therefore couldnt install 1.6. But now I know to call them week to get full 1.6.
Thanks.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

francis:

I guess we would be hearing horrifying Vista compatibility stories til next year. fortunately for some, things are going smoothly. Most of the problems that people encounter when using vista are drivers. In case you're having compatibility dillemmas, try going to http://www.radarsync.com/vista. I get my Vista drivers from that site.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MSD:

Check out my experience with VIIV for the real pain:
http://msd-bml.blogspot.com/2007/11/intel-viiv-you-fuck.html


29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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