I've got an iPhone -- in Australia

Danny Gorog19 July 2007, 2:59 AM

FIRST AUSTRALIAN REVIEW |I've got an iPhone on Australian terra firma, and it lives up to the hype.


I did it, I took the plunge and bought an iPhone. I'm lucky because my sister lives in the US so she organised the whole thing for me. I got it on Monday and have been attached to it since then. In fact, normally when I'm at home I'm on the MacBook Pro most of the time, but since I've had the iPhone I haven't used my computer much at all. The iPhone is that good.

I'm not going to give a full blown review here because they are everywhere. But I'll say this (and I know all you Windows fans will think I'm just raving), the iPhone, without question, is the one of the most revolutionary, mind blowing consumer electronics devices to have ever been released.

If you're not impressed with it after you've used it from any perspective (be it engineering, design, or software) than you don't really get what consumer technology is all about.

The reviews on the web simply can't do justice to how amazing this little thing is. It does have shortcomings (which are also well documented), but from the perspective of a first generation product, the iPhone is sensational.

Like you, I'd read lots of reviews about the iPhone and the thing that stuck in my mind was the comments on screen quality. I'm here to tell you these have not been overstated. The screen is simply brilliant. It is bright, clear, sharp, and the colours just glow. Even after heavy use fingerprints are barely visible when the screen is turned on.

But it's not only the screen that makes the iPhone a stand-out product. It's also the interface. The iPhone makes graffiti and stylus based inputs look prehistoric. Say what you want about other smart phones on the market, (and I've just reviewed the Motorola Q 9h,Samsung Blackjack and the BlackBerry Curve for the Herald Sun) on balance, the iPhone simply blows them away. And you have to keep reminding yourself that this is a first generation product.

I've proudly paraded my iPhone around and have been staggered at how people notice it. I was at a movie last night and heard the people behind comment 'hey look, that's an iPhone'. I've never had that reaction with any other phone I've used. I've shown guys and girls and they all just say 'wow' (sort of how people react when they see Vista, but not really).

People just pick it up and start using it. The interface is incredibly intuitive. Even my twenty month old son knows how to unlock the phone with the slider and flick through photos.

Surfing the web with iPhone Safari is great most of the time. It's not as stable as I'd like but when it crashes it doesn't take down the system. Safari just vanishes and you end up back at the home screen. Also, when some sites load the interface freezes up for ten seconds or so, but Safari is the only application that does this. Everywhere else the interface is just phenomenally fast. You flick and it scrolls, you touch your finger back on the screen and it stops. It's addictive.

The camera is superb, not just in picture quality but in speed. Most phones take an eternity to process images but the iPhone takes a photo, and within two or three seconds lets you take another. I love that photos sync automatically with iPhoto as well. The calender is also wonderful and the UI controls for setting time and dates are fantastic too.

I activated my iPhone using the DVD Jon hack but obviously haven't got it working as a phone yet but I can use the all other features, including iPod and WiFi. I've decided to get myself a really small phone and use my iPhone as a PDA until I can get the phone part working (or until Apple Australia releases the iPhone -- for now their lame official line is that it "doesn't work in Australia", but I suppose, officially, that is true.)

If you've got questions you'd like answered from a local perspective please leave them in the comments and I'll do my best to answer them. I've also added some photos I took of the APCMAG.com website on iPhone Safari, and a photo of the time and date selector widgets from the calendar application.

iPhone displaying APCMAG.com in SafariiPhone displaying APCMAG.com in Safari

In Landscape modeIn Landscape mode
Selecting a time and date - The interface is superb.Selecting a time and date - The interface is superb.


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u752181:

Ah Danny, asking to you write about the iPhone is like asking a new parent to critically comment on their new child. There is no chance of objectivity.

Therefore I skimmed the article but did you really just review and praise the iPhone when you cannot even use the phone functionality?

It would appear that you appreciate it more as a fashion accessory than as a phone.

I hope you enjoy it.




29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

Great, I'm really pleased that someone took the expense for us. Let us know if you end up getting it working as a phone. But one question:

Can I have it?

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Wes:

A bit hard to come up with some meaningful questions about something that will take us sometime to have. But from what has been written here, its sounds pretty impressive to me even without the phone function.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

A Nonymity:

The iPhone? HA

This review points out the iPhone's flaws.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anthonymous:

Funny, I've a friend with an E70 who can't wait to dump it for an iPhone. Nice link. A parody, no?

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Matt:

Can the little advertisement on the right hand side of the page displaying "Future of Firefox: In Depth Interview with Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker" be taken down please?

This has been there for way too long and for some reason annoys the hell out of me.

I am not joking around or being a fool, it really needs to go.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

Thanks for the feedback Matt - noted. We'll have something new there shortly.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William L:

recently i have noticed, every time i come to www.apcmag.com an optus add pops up its VERY ANNOYING it never used to happen, please take it down, i normally visit this site allot to view news etc, but this pop up is getting too annoying,

please take it down

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

We have passed the feedback on to NineMSN William.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

but since I've had the iPhone I haven't used my computer much at all. The iPhone is that good.

Or perhaps the computer the phone replaces isn't that good?

Or more realistically the applications thrust at both were less than demanding.

Phones to replace the PC that's the funniest thing I've heard since "NextG as broadband".

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog:

Raindog, Do you have one or two horses attached to your cart? Or are you still just pushing around a trolley with square wheels.

I'm guessing you've probably just upgraded from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95. I don't want to write too much else the page will take too long to load over your 9600bps modem.



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

What a constructive reply indeed?
When the argument loses any cred it's time to resort to insult, looks like there is nothing factual left to refute my argument.

Some like there computing done for them (and their thinking for that matter)these things are just machines, tools to do a job.

That mac iBarrow with its mag wheel and chrome handles wont ferry any more bricks than any old generic wheelbarrow, however much it woos the hearts and minds of the gullible.

So whoever had posted this had better come up with something valid and less foolish to say.






29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Rimsy:

Nice post Raindog. I never take Danny's articles seriously. However, I always read them because if Danny is raving about a product then there's every chance that it's shithouse. Then at least I know what not to buy. I don't hate Apple products per se, but the hype and marketing that surrounds them indicates to me that they are products for idiots and morons who don't know any better. They're like the Harry Potter of the computing world. I wonder if the new Harry Potter novel has rounded edges on the pages like the drop down boxes in Leopard??? Pure class, haha. Onya Danny.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

> Nice post Raindog. I never take Danny's
> articles seriously. However, I always
> read them because if Danny is raving
> about a product then there's every
> chance that it's shithouse.



Glad you enjoyed, but it wasn't my intention to have a go at Danny. I've more than tired of all the brand fanaticism and from the veiled peddling of ideas from those who see advantage from peddling a particular ideal.

My opinions are simply personal opinions, the way I see it if you like. Perhaps it's my tally of years that prevents me getiing all in a lather over what in the washup is just another handset. likewhise chrome handles, and cool-as rounded bezels dont set my heart on fire late at night when I'm trying to finish a network diagram, piece of code, or wade through a mountain of bookwork.

I wonder at the buying motives sometimes when purchase decision is set by a comparison of half baked features when, at least from my perspective, the devices on offer seldom get the basics right.

A quick look through that drawer of retired handsets will confirm this. You all know the one.
And before the apple fanboys come back in a tirade of iPhone wont be like that, the same applies for that drawer full of last years model iPods.
It seems these drawers full of failed promises and last years tech are the price to pay for being one of the multitude of tech fashion disciples.




29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny:

Thank god Apple doesn't design products targeted at you. They'd be square, black and white, and would only be operable with a Phd in Computer Science.

Please, please, please STOP coding (I'd shudder to use software you've written to be frank). Its programmers and network admins like you that dull the IT industry in to a situation where consumers get excited by products like Vista (by the way, have you noticed how your beloved MS also advertise eye-catching features like Aero etc.?)

Like it or not Apple push the industry forward. Without them we'd all still be on the command line.


29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

> Thank god Apple doesn't design products
> targeted at you. They'd be square, black
> and white, and would only be operable with
> a Phd in Computer Science.


Clearly Apple see more value in the gullible than to target those that question what is fed to them.

> Please, please, please STOP coding (I'd
> shudder to use software you've written to
> be frank).


You needn't fear my time isn't spent writing code for anything preceded with a lowed case "i", and I have little interest in gaming so I'd say you'd be safe enough.

> Its programmers and network admins like
> you that dull the IT industry in to a
> situation where consumers get excited by
> products like Vista


If actually doing something useful with PC and cell phones is dull to you I'm sorry, but hey it pays my bills. What does or doesn't excite someone is no concern of mine, I'd guess anyone who could go all agog over something as simple an "iSomething" branded MP3 player could probably be woo-ed by Vista and it's nanny menus too.

> have you noticed how your beloved MS
> also advertise eye-catching features
> like Aero etc.?


My Vista, when was it my Vista and if so where are the royalties and why doesn't it do what I want it to. Eye candy is for for those easily impressed. A good OS just works and does not clutter or interupt, on this fact alone most OS's fail.

> Like it or not Apple push the industry
> forward. Without them we'd all still be
> on the command line.


Well to be honest a command line for those who have bothered to learn even the basics of an OS is the most efficient way of achieving many tasks, but that would be of little use to all those legions of Zombie-Clickers salivating over eye candy type OS's. I cant say I'd like to still live in a command line only environment, but I'll curse any OS that locks away such a powerful tool.

As for pushing the industry forward you have to be kidding right, the only push is to get product into markets ready to spend cash on flash, the rest of the industry trundles on barely giving the latest "iThing" a mention.

If trinkets are your thing enjoy, but please remember some of of us use our PC and phones for useful endeavour.



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny:

"Clearly Apple see more value in the gullible than to target those that question what is fed to them."

Yeah, Apple customers are gullible no hopers. You never see the top thinkers, scientists or artists using Macs. Nah, never. That's why their market share keeps rising and rising and rising...

"Eye candy is for for those easily impressed. A good OS just works and does not clutter or interupt, on this fact alone most OS's fail."

Somebody PLEASE get Raindog a copy of Mac OS X.

"I cant say I'd like to still live in a command line only environment, but I'll curse any OS that locks away such a powerful tool."

Somebody PLEASE get Raindog a copy of Mac OS X.

Also, in regard to giving products names (like iPhone, and iMac) Apple are by far the smartest in the industry. Their products are memorable and have personalities. What was the model number of your last PC? XTR6570-9. What about your phone? 685i? Now that's innovation.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

> You never see the top thinkers, scientists
> or artists using Macs.


Yeah your right but what about the rappers, the TV show hosts, the poets and the freedom fighters too? Cmon let's keep that emotion going. :> Those who work hard at product placement will be heartened to see that you give it cred.


> Somebody PLEASE get Raindog a copy of Mac
> OS X.


You can send me four copies, they'll all can sit unused beside all the Vista freebies.


> Apple are by far the smartest in the
> industry. Their products are memorable
> and have personalities.


Personalities? they are machines, tools, devices, there to do a job not idols of worship. Or maybe things are different in your cult.


> What was the model number of your
> last PC?


Well you know I'd be hard press to you on that. I never suffered from badge envy or a need to bore others senseless quoting model numbers trying to impress. If that was meant as an insult, then you've bowled yet another gutter ball. No strike for you.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny:

Raindog, all you do is bag everybody else.

What system do YOU use? What, in opinion is the best option for all those consumers out there (computers, mobile phones, etc.), and what, as writers should be talking about here?

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

> Raindog, all you do is bag everybody else.

No! What I bag is new product frenzy and review based on gee-whiz rather than real world usability. I've questioned the assertion that a product has that much more merit than anything else out there, it is the detractors that chose to make personal insults towards me.

> What system do YOU use?

At home a mixed environment of five or six PC's running a mix of XP, Win2K and linux in Centos and Ubuntu flavours. PC's various.

> What, in opinion is the best option for
> all those consumers out there


For most consumers, the best option is middle of the road stable and mature options.

Don't buy the budget offerings at bottom scale like the plethora of soon to be out of date under-RAMed sub $1000 notebooks.

Let those with more money than sense buy the IPhones, the $5K latest spec water cooled PCs which will devalue massively the instant they are not top of the tree. Just read all the correspondence to APC more often than not the purchasers of these new release products become the unwitting and unfunded beta testers finding all the flaws.

If you want to play games on any computer don't, but a lesser specced PC and a games consoles and take the misses out to dinner with the change.

and unless you carry it in a well padded handbag, dont buy a phone that flips, slides, opens etc, you'll be sorry and the parts of it will soon sit in that drawer with all the other dead handsets way too soon.

There is my most common advice to most mug punters.

>what, as writers should be talking
> about here?


I'd like interview to look at a few more of the real world gripes and weaknesses and annoyances of machines that turn up in real world use. Go a little past a regurgitation of the MAC and Microsoft feature sheets.

As an example a comparative review (in an APC sister publication) of low cost MFC's absolutely panned an offering by Brother over print speed and quality, yet totally overlooked the fact that it was the only product this side of business grade HP Jet direct that offers true stand-alone Ethernet connectivity. Those features in the target market, the SOHO offices and small home networks, are more important than the parameters on which the MFC was panned. I must have put in at least 20 of the particular model and most were overjoyed with the print quality and ink cartridge life and more so with the utility the machines offered. The author even panned fax funtionality as unimportant in an MFC. Most casual readers buying on the basis of that article would not be getting the best value.

I'd like reviewers and reporters to keep an open mind about the variety of uses a product can be put to. With phones for example the parameters for those who pay their own bills are very different than for those who have an employer copping all the costs.

APC does a reasonable job of all this but there is still plenty of scope for improvement. The readership don't all wear skivys or tin-foil hats nor did they all come down in any last showers. Include iPhones by all means but lets leave the blanket and ceaseless evangalism out it just takes up space where something useful could have fitted.







29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog:

Thanks for that constructive reply.

Just to finish off I did use the iPhone in a real world sense (as a PDA) and was very impressed. That was the point of the article, as opposed to previous posts where I linked to other reviews. 

But I generally agree with what you say. However my writing is targeted at the average consumer and in fact think that for this customer Macs should be considered top of mind.

Business users (and network admins and programmers) have different needs and priorities and I appreciate that Macs may not be right for them.



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous1:

If you review a phone as something other than a phone why not review a barrow of them. They would make a lovely house.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dog Whisperer:

Danny, I'm with you - just check out his name : Raindog... if that isn't a subconscious message to the world what is... I wouldn't waste my time talking with this trash mouth, anyone reading these ignorant, disrespectful replies with an ounce of intelligence can work out that those kind of posts come from trash mouths. If I were you, I would delete them, or say "this is trash talk I have moved to another section away from the article, for disclosure purposes. If you want to read it please do so". Then nobody would read it. Anyone reading this comment section will just get bored and tired of that kind of garbage and it only denegrates your own site in the end by you letting it be there and responding to it. My advice, ditch the trash talkers and leave room for interesting discussion, or none at all.


29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny:

"Clearly Apple see more value in the gullible than to target those that question what is fed to them."

Yeah, Apple customers are gullible no hopers. You never see the top thinkers, scientists or artists using Macs. Nah, never. That's why their market share keeps rising and rising and rising...

"Eye candy is for for those easily impressed. A good OS just works and does not clutter or interupt, on this fact alone most OS's fail."

Somebody PLEASE get Raindog a copy of Mac OS X.

"I cant say I'd like to still live in a command line only environment, but I'll curse any OS that locks away such a powerful tool."

Somebody PLEASE get Raindog a copy of Mac OS X.

Also, in regard to giving products names (like iPhone, and iMac) Apple are by far the smartest in the industry. Their products are memorable and have personalities. What was the model number of your last PC? XTR6570-9. What about your phone? 685i? Now that's innovation.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

phone fan:

But it is still only 2.5G. my Nokia 6101, computer and MP3 player does all the same stuff as the iphone. maybe when it becomes a 3G handset i will think of shelling out the price.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

fredy:

I live in Mexico and got my phone yesterday. I TOTALLY agree with you. I have gotten very little sleep playing with it.

Please tell me how to unlock it. I understand that the phone will not work, but like you, I don't care

Regards from Mexico

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Martin:

Danny

While there's no denying your enthusiasm for the new iPhone - I've got to say, I absolutely, unreservedly, undeniably, unequivocally and totally detest wankers who muck around with their mobile phones in movie theatres. It's the epitomy of rudeness and inconsideration to others.

Sorry mate, but that's a fact.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog:

Somebody get Martin a tissue.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Markm:

Danny I think your the one that needs tissues. Its just a phone and in your case its not even that. Yes it may be at the cutting edge of design and interface but as a smartphone it still has a long way to go and more and more of the reviews coming out the USA now are starting to highlight the flaws that where initally blinded by the excessive Apple hype.
PS Could you do a howto on replacing the battery in your iphone ?

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog:

Markm, if you are genuinely happy with whatever phone you've got at the moment stop reading the reviews. Otherwise, come to talk to me when you've actually played with an iPhone. Then you and I can sit down and have a serious conversation.



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

seriously prilvesh fiji:

the iphone is only good for one thing its screen and touch pad all the rest are the freakin functionalities which can be repliacted by many phones on the makert whether it be applications games ,music movie players brand s like sony erricson nokia ,and motorola are far more advanced with the fact they have 3g phones out which are really so customizable adn have great cameras etc etc if i buy a iphone it has to be 3g at least and should have extremely strong processing power no freezes along the way should be over clock able well i dont seem to see my self buying the 2.5g version of the iphone but when it may reach possibly 4g standards than i would kill for it till than i,m just happy with my sony ericson 3g flash fone and motorola L7

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Giiny:

Here Here Martin, I agree with you 110%



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

apollo:

No one is telling you that the ifone is relaying all your personal information to a dedicated server on the internet to later be sifted through by your loving parental world government. Don't beleive me? Do your research before you reply ignorantly to this comment. it's time to stop being a consumer and let these companies know that we value our privacy. Or you can just go along with it and be a good global citizen. just go to..
www.infowars.com

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mac convert:

Hi There...loved your review very interested. I am considering doing the same until they bring it out here is Australia.

Can you tell me what you paid or i should pay.

cheers

claude

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

the michael:

whatever price it takes

people around the world are trying to pay

about US$700

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny:

It ended up costing around $750 plus I had to pay about $40 delivery as well. Still I reckon a good PDA for under $800 is actually not that bad. And $800 for a great phone and PDA is a steal.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Flynn:

Mate, just for the 'pose' value  of having something so unique, that'd be hard to resist..!

Nah, seriously, it's amazing that so many people know it's an iPhone in your paw, even though the product itself hasn't been seen or promoted out here at all... testimony to the modern media, heightened role of tech in our lives, greater consumer awareness of said tech, and of course hype and the Apple buzz... but also, maybe a reflection of the way Apple is considered by so many in the media and the mainstream.  



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sam:

What about customs issues - did you have to pay any duty to import it?

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

faheemshamsi:

hey danny i liked ur post
i m also thinking to buy an iphone from the states but before that i want to know that will it run with my optus sim or not????
if it will so how ???
can u plz tell me



29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Azz:

So what's the deal with not being able to use the iphone in Australia yet?
And how long before you can use the iphone as a mobile phone? will you still have to go through eg. telstra or would it be a totaly different network?

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mrabuzz:

nice article danny, I dind't see what the issue was.

raindog and people like him have no imagination and do not understand the concept of innovation. I know the type - they eat crap food and drinks coke all day to, their brains are rotting.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mrabuzz:

nice article, I didn't see any reason for negative comments on a first look at a new product

raindog and people like him have no imagination and do not understand the concept of innovation. I know the type - they eat crap food and drinks coke all day to, their brains are rotting.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

That guy:

Hi, Thanks for the article and for taking the plunge! Could you not just put a pre-paid SIM in it and connect to a GSM network here? Sure, you wouldn't get the data over the network, but it should still work as a phone, yes?

h.



29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jo:

I have just gotten back from Manhattan, where I played around with the I-Phone in both the Central PArk and Soho stores. I soo badly wanted to buy one, but was advised by the store staff to wait until it comes out in Australia.

Now the price has dropped to $399 US I am seriously considering getting one, the only thing stopping me is the uncertainty of whether the phone will work here or not.

Are you sure that the phone capability will work on it here?

Thanks,

Jo

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog:

The iPhone will definately work here - and easily with the now freely available unlocking software.


29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

amack:

What do you mean "definately will work here". We want you to put your regular sim in and tell us what bits work. Can you call anyone? Can you go on the internet?

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous123:

Got an IPOD for US$299 and it works on telstra network after hacking.
I love it. It can't read the sim contacts and not Next-G (Crappy telstra network)

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jodi:

I spoke to an Apple sales guy in a local DickSmith Superstore yesterday and he advised that the iPhone will be released here in Jan or Feb 2008 but didn't know any further details.
I am going to the USA next month and are considering getting an iPhone then since it is now $399 USD as compared to the iPod Touch (16GB) that is $570 or so. In the USA, the iPhone (8GB) is the same price as the iPod Touch (16GB) so, assuming that the same/similar occurs here, I save about $140 by getting the iPhone in the US for $399 (roughly $430 AUD).
I do have reservations about this though. I can hack it to use it with a different SIM, etc....or I can do as you initially set out to do and use it as a iPod Touch until the iPhone is released here and then activate it with the carrier that provides it in Australia. But then the risk associated with that is that I do not know if the iPhone will be sold through stores like it is in the USA or if it will be provided directly from the carrier.
So, there is some risk with getting it prior to the Australian release, but at the same time I enjoy the fun of modifying it to get it to work over here. Can I ask if you used a hack to get it to work as a phone over here?
Also, I am curious as to wether it works as an iPod Touch out of the box or if I need to get it to a PC to activate it before even that works? Yet another question I have is wether the connector can be used with the connector that comes with a 3rd gen iPod (or iPod Nano). The reason I ask this is because if it does then it would allow me to use it with WiFi in the USA (to download podcasts or view email/web pages) prior to bringing it home to hack for use with an Aussie Sim.
Sorry for the many questions.
Jodi

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Vin:

heya
i would like to ask
how did you get ur internet working???
i've tried everything including entering the apn for vodafone...
but it doesn't seem to work for me...
there is no more message saying that edge could not connect thing...
but the internet just won't work...
can you help me out?

thanx in advance :D

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lachlan:

Myself just like you have funally considered taking the chance, im only 16 but i really want to take the chance and blow the minds out of my friends with the phone. I have a few questions because i dont want to waste my money on something that won't work, now i know you said it works like safari and everything but did u haev any work to it at all. Also does safari require anything that u need to get from America please write back i dont want to make the wrong decision.

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