Jobs: netbooks are a massive pile of ‘meh’

David Flynn
28 January 2010, 8:40 AM


Apple CEO hits out at netbooks, saying “they aren’t better at anything” that users really want to do.


Never one to let an opportunity go to waste, Steve Jobs used this morning’s launch of the iPad tablet to position Apple as the world’s leader in mobile computing and take a swipe at netbooks.

Citing last week’s reported 50% increase in profit and a quarterly revenue of US$15.68bn, Jobs pointed out that most of that revenue comes from “iPods, iPhones, and Macs. What's interesting is that iPods are mobile devices, the iPhone is, and most of our computers. We're a mobile company.”

Based on the quarterly figures, Jobs said that Apple was now a US$50bn company, which in turn made it “the largest mobile device company in the world. Larger than Sony, bigger than Samsung… and by revenue we’re even bigger than Nokia.”

The head of the world’s newly self-appointed Big Cheese in mobility then took a shot at the most successful mobile computing category of the past year, dismissing netbooks as being slow, having “low quality displays” and running “PC software”.


Describing netbooks as “just cheap laptops”, Jobs said they were a lacklustre attempt to create a “third category” between smartphones and notebooks.



The Gospel According to Steve: why netbooks suck and why you're a dufus for buying one.

“Is there room for something in the middle? We've wondered for years as well” Jobs said. “In order to create that category, they have to be far better at doing some key tasks better than the laptop and better than the smartphone.”

“What kind of tasks? Browsing the web. Doing email. Enjoying and sharing pics. Watching videos. Enjoying music. Playing games. Reading ebooks.”

“If there's going to be a third category it has to be better at these tasks – otherwise it has no reason for being.”

“Now some people thought that was a netbook -- the problem is that netbooks aren't better than anything.”

Of course, Jobs believes that the iPad is better than the iPhone and the MacBook at quite a few things – not the same things for each device, to be sure, but enough things across both categories to simultaneously create and fill a niche as the third mobile device.

So Jobs has had his say – what do you think? Is the iPad a better netbook than a netbook?


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techdribble (User):

In a word No. It cant even multitask give me a netbook running windows or linux a much more useful device.

28 January 2010, 9:02 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Low quality displays? Maybe in some of the crappy brands, but all the Asus models I've seen have had nice clear displays. Very sharp, no flicker, no fading, quick response.... Even in the antique and cheapo Eee701.

28 January 2010, 10:35 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

apt.pupil (User):

netbooks slow?
low quality display?
i'm sorry Steve Jobs, but based on that presentation you clearly have NO idea why netbooks are quickly becoming popular.

I would also stop taking a low swipe when the best you can come up with is a tablet that can not multitask.

28 January 2010, 11:05 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wormal (New user):

Netbooks are real computers that a user has complete control of even to the point of being able to change the operating system. I will reluctantly accept that many people don't mind Apples militant control of something that is essentially just a phone and media player, but I still find all the arbitrary restrictions on the iPhone very uncomfortable. Why anybody would buy Apples tablet thing when you can get a real netbook computer is beyond me.

28 January 2010, 12:59 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Aubrey (New user):

Totally agree, wormal. This is an upsized iPhone that can't make phone calls. I don't understand all the "Kindle-killer" ranting either - this is an LCD screen isn't it? I predict it will become known as the iStrain once some of these swooning commentators actually try to read more than a web article on it.

28 January 2010, 2:39 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo (Frequent poster):

Quoting Aubrey:
I predict it will become known as the iStrain once some of these swooning commentators actually try to read more than a web article on it.


That is an important point. In order to reduce eye strain to the same level as reading print on a page pixel density has to basically double. This has been known for some years, but thus far no LCD panel manufacturer is even attempting it (I don't know whether this also applies to the epaper technology used by the Kindle). And that's in good reading conditions, not taking into account glare on an LCD screen and what have.

Even if Apple were to achieve this I am not convinced I'd want to take an iPad into the dunny and chuck it on the floor so I could read the sports section. ;) I'm not much good in the mornings, but newspapers are tremendously tolerant of abuse.

29 January 2010, 12:58 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wormal (New user):

//repost accident

28 January 2010, 1:19 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

slow - in comparison to what? a $1600 macbook?
low quality display - kinda defeats the purpose of a netbook to double the price just to put a pretty screen on it.
PC Software - mmm flash for webbrowsing, cheap/free software, multitasking

I think Stevey's barb did more to promote netbooks than set them back.
I dont know of any netbooks that cost more than $500 US, you dont have to chop your sim card to get 3g data (where the price goes up another $100 -$200)
The Ipad is just a glorified digital picture frame


28 January 2010, 4:39 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting Pauly:
The Ipad is just a glorified digital picture frame


And even then if the software doesn't work how you like, you're kind of screwed (at least until they release the SDK which may be months away).
The Crunchpad would have been extremely similar, cheaper, and if you didn't like the software, far easier to install a normal Linux onto.

28 January 2010, 6:54 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (User):

deja vu

28 January 2010, 7:40 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (User):

“If there's going to be a third category it has to be better at these tasks – otherwise it has no reason for being.”

Then how exactly do you justify the bucks for an iSlab Steve?

28 January 2010, 7:40 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Maximus.Psychosis (New user):

netbook is a lighter notebook, For the reason of portability, disposability and replacability, $300 for something to check emails, write blogs, read news and acts like a notebook without the wight and who cares if its stolen? thank you, I'll take a netbook...

on the ergonomics side, its no good, you have to lay it down to type a document, but you have to have the screen sitting up to see what you're doing, and half the screen is gone, so you can see what you're typing down the page

Oh, and no usb ports without an add-on? hell no! 3 is sometime not enough with a netbook, so how do I transfer documents, take pictures off camera and be on the net at the same time?, treat it like a mac Air, use a standard USB hub; Let the clutter commence!

29 January 2010, 12:00 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Winc (New user):

Netbooks aren't better than anything? It's better than an iPad. It's Cheaper, Has More Storage, Able To Download Softwares Off The Net Into The Place I Want, Multi-tasking & More. Who Cares If The Display Is Low What's IMPORTANT is That It Works The Way People Wants! & If I wanted a Computer with Muilti Touch, why not buy a normal Tablet PC with Windows 7!!! The iPad is only a large iPhone with more limits. Not Worth Getting.

29 January 2010, 2:20 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Toosmoky (User):

Give me a MacBook Pro in an iPad form factor and I'll buy one. I already have an iPhone.

29 January 2010, 10:37 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Toosmoky:
Give me a MacBook Pro in an iPad form factor and I'll buy one. I already have an iPhone.

That's probably what many people were expecting, which accounts for a fair degree of the disappointment.

29 January 2010, 10:47 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

kakarik0 (New user):

I'd like to refer to the below link which has a pretty good perspective on netbooks. I am amazed Steve made those claims, as the iPad is more expensive, less practical than a netbook, and is in no way better or worse when it comes to reading text on the screen.


http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001318.html

29 January 2010, 10:57 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jimmydee (New user):

My little Asus,9" screen,2gb 800 ram and a 128 GB ssd, all the bells and whistles,keeps me happy when i need to compute on the move,boot from Puppy when doing a bit of banking then back to windows to play,3G net work anywhere,great toy !!!
I am 58 do I need an iPad,or am i missing something??


29 January 2010, 8:29 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jimmydee (New user):

My little Asus,9" screen,2gb 800 ram and a 128 GB ssd, all the bells and whistles,keeps me happy when i need to compute on the move,boot from Puppy when doing a bit of banking then back to windows to play,3G net work anywhere,great toy !!!
I am 58 do I need an iPad,or am i missing something??


29 January 2010, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

texasboy1 (User):

what a load of rubbish.
i would love to see steves new ifail device do ANYTHING new that a netbook couldnt do in the first place besides a touch screen and overated hardware. i mean come on apple, enough with your sadistically retarded impulses to force people to swallow you overpriced mockery of a decent device. arent better for anything? how about being small and compact and having a price thats not as big as a elephants behind?

PC software? oh come now, dont you mean, "windows software"? right? because obviously you would be bashing your own product that you sell! [aka PC= PERSONAL COMPUTER]

low quality display? where have you been when asus came out with the eee pc?

dont automatically assume that you are in control of mobile technology just because you made something new. so Mr. jobs, i can reassuringly say, good luck to you and your ifail device.

30 January 2010, 1:04 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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