Kogan resurrects dead phone: Agora 2 details

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Anthony Caruana24 February 2009, 12:20 PM

Kogan CEO, Ruslan Kogan has revealed details of the upcoming Agora 2 handset, following on from the aborted launch of the original Agora smartphone.


Named after the Greek for "marketplace" the Agora 2 will boast a 3.5 inch touchscreen and look very much like Apple's iPhone but run the next iteration of Google's Android OS, codenamed "cupcake". Kogan told APC that a precise release date was "out of our hands" but revealed that the hardware is ready now.

Kogan told us that he believes that what Google does is usually "best of breed" and that he has no intention of looking to other operating systems such as Windows Mobile or Symbian. He claims that the power of the open source community is far more powerful and can deliver a better outcome than licensed platforms.

Kogan, never short of a word on what the opposition are doing, said that he thought the iPhone's time of market leadership was short and that if Google withdrew licensing of Maps that the iPhone platform would cease to dominate. When we reminded him that Google CEO Eric Schmidt was a member of Apple's Board of Directors, he seemed a little surprised.

One of the factors limiting Kogan's ability to deliver the Agora is that although the Android operating system is open source, many of the applications that run on the platform require licensing. In an explosive revelation, he said that this may be why, despite the hoopla surrounding Google's open source mobile OS, that only one manufacturer had brought a product to market. When the next wave of Android devices hits the market, Kogan told us that the Agora would be "right there".

It remains to be seen if Kogan's business model of selling products directly to customers, bypassing wholesalers and stores, at low margins will work with a mobile phone. The Australian market is still largely built around customers buying phones from carriers on contract or with pre-paid packages rather than outright and independently of a carrier.


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CBR1100XX (Advanced member):

I know this is an obvious question ....... but what happened to Agora 1, Ruslan ?

Sounds like a whole bunch of excuses which will no doubt overflow into the 'imminent' netbook release !

24 February 2009, 12:58 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting CBR1100XX:
Sounds like a whole bunch of excuses

http://apcmag.com/kogan_agora_delayed_indefinitely.htm tables much of the official reasoning (excuses) believe of them what you wish.


Quoting CBR1100XX:
which will no doubt overflow into the 'imminent' netbook release

And you know this how? What reasons do you have to suggest that any movements regarding a second release attempt of a Kogan Agora phone will have any effect or influence on delivery of a proposed Kogan netbook? Or is this merely an unfounded and totally unsubstantiated assumption you have made?


24 February 2009, 1:51 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CBR1100XX (Advanced member):

Quoting Raindog:
Or is this merely an unfounded and totally unsubstantiated assumption you have made?

Yes !

And if it will save you asking the same question on all my posts, all my comments will, from now on, be unsubstantiated and and are only my personal opinion !




25 February 2009, 9:26 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

For the memory challenged among APC readers:
http://apcmag.com/kogan_agora_delayed_indefinitely.htm

And the hardware appears to have been flogged off by the Chinese manufacturer under other names.

24 February 2009, 1:54 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CBR1100XX (Advanced member):

Quoting Tin:
For the memory challenged among APC readers:

Gee ! You blokes sure are a tough audience !
And I apologose if I don't frequent apcmag.com 3 or 4 times a day, 7 days a week !

But my question is still valid to Ruslan. Shall we then see Agora 3.0 because Agora 2.0 is 'delayed indefinitely' ?

Or maybe Linux netbook 1.0 delayed indefinitely because they can't get it right and will flog it off cheap to the 'poor' countries ?

This guy is just so shonky and yet seems to have many friends on this site. He certainly can't complain about the amount of exposure he is getting here at APC.




25 February 2009, 9:14 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

shrike (User):

I hope this actually makes it to market this time, I'm looking forward to being able to buy a reasonably priced phone without a contract, as I can put my work Next G SIM in it and be free of the Windows Mobile hell I am currently stuck in.

24 February 2009, 7:18 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Discosis (User):

So, does "the hardware is ready now" mean theres no change to the actual hardware?

25 February 2009, 2:51 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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