Libs stance on net filtering will await legislation

Renai LeMay
12 March 2010, 12:41 PM


Shadow Comms Minister Tony Smith today said the Opposition would not release a formal stance on the Government’s internet filtering plan until after legislation was released.


“When it does, we’ll take that to the party room, and you’ll know after that what our approach is,” he told the Australian Telecommunications User Group’s annual conference in Sydney today. “I think the responsible course is to wait to see precisely what the govt proposes, which we’ll see in their legislation.”

The news comes as there is debate within both Labor and the Coalition about the filter policy. The Greens oppose the proposal. Shadow treasurer Joe Hockey last night launched an attack on the scheme, in one of the first cases of a senior Opposition figure coming out publicly against the controversial policy.

“What we have in the government’s Internet filtering proposal is a scheme that is likely to be unworkable in practice. But more perniciously it is a scheme that will create the infrastructure for government censorship on a broader scale,” said Hockey in a wide-ranging speech on freedom to the Grattan Institute last night.

Smith said the Opposition was always prepared to look at the results of the filter trial released late in 2009, but it remained to be convinced that what the Federal Government was proposing was “workable or effective”.

“Of course, as Joe said yesterday, and as Tony Abbott has said, we want to do everything we can to protect families and kids from being exposed to illegal and dastardly content,” he said. “The issue is what’s achievable and what’s effective. I think the responsible course is to wait to see precisely what the government proposes, which we’ll see in their legislation.”

Smith said the Opposition was consulting with many interested parties. “I notice my friend from Google here,” he said to the audience. The search giant has expressed concern about the filter – particularly, for example, around the area of filtering YouTube content.

The Shadow Minister pointed out although the filter initiative had been announced back when the Rudd Government was elected “in a very general and broad form”, it took until December last year for the results of the filter trial to be released.

He noted the Opposition had had a policy and resources in place for filtered based at the PC level rather than at the ISP level the Government is proposing. Smith said parental supervision was also “vital” – because “so many of the dangers online won’t be dealt with by filters”.

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Tin (Regular user):

PC level is not useful - kids know more about installing software than the parents.
ISP level is not workable because it's not their place to do it, and it would cost users who don't want it.

What would work is home router level filtering. This could still use a regularly auto-updated list from the government (or 3rd parties), but takes the load of ISPs, while still being far more difficult for a 12 year old to bypass.

12 March 2010, 8:50 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

The Libs will do exactly what Labor will do. You cannot tell me that the Liberals know nothing about what is proposed as yet? If they get back into power you will see after a year or so they will say that PC filtering is easily bypassed and will go with a very similar plan to what is intended now. The same idea but with a change of wording. Just wait and see!

12 March 2010, 9:18 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ha91919 (New user):

“Of course, as Joe said yesterday, and as Tony Abbott has said, we want to do everything we can to protect families and kids from being exposed to illegal and dastardly content,”

Where the hell do you go to be exposed to illegal content? I've been on the net for along time and still haven't 'stumbled' upon 'illegal' content. DASTARDLY! like ummm graffiti? or maybe uncut versions of left 4 dead 2! Run for the hills!

12 March 2010, 10:36 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ha91919 (New user):

double post

12 March 2010, 10:36 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Luigi (New user):

The reason the Libs won't attack the internet filter at face value is for the same reason that Labor brought it in in the first place. The conservative voters that traditionally vote Liberal want it and Abbott can't afford to put his own constituents off side.
Tony Abbott is going to have a moral dilemma when the final legislation goes before the parliament. His religious ideals will tell him to support the bill but his “the opposition is here to oppose everything” mantra will go against that. Remember this is a man who as minister for health blocked an abortion drug (RU486) not because it was dangerous but because he disagreed with abortion in general.
Don't hold any hope Nick Xenophon is going to oppose the filter he wants it expanded to cover everything his insane religious views disagree with.

Why doesn't the government put money into free training for parents about the risks of computers and the internet? So many parents don't even realise how simple it is to create user and administrator logins stopping their children from installing software. Also allowing them in Vista and Win7 to put basic parental locks on the internet themselves....

Oh that's right most parents are too lazy to do it themselves.

If parents really wanted to protect their children they would educate themselves.
It's a simple rule everyone.
If you want to be a good parent spent twice as much with your kids and half as much on them.

13 March 2010, 7:28 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Aubrey (New user):

I have great respect for Joe Hockey for setting out his opposition to filter and his reasons. But the Libs hedging their position on this is a real worry given their current tactics would suggest blind opposition to anything the govt put forward. I think that both they and the govt will probably stall this one till after the election and then bring it on quickly in the hope we'll forget before the 2013 poll. They could even allow one of their famous conscience votes on this - which means it would still get through but give (the few remaining) genuine liberals some comfort.

14 March 2010, 5:45 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting Aubrey:
their current tactics would suggest blind opposition to anything the govt put forward.


Don't forget that Labor had pretty much the same approach for the previous decade. Funny how the Labor pollies forget that part when they complain about it.

14 March 2010, 5:57 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
their current tactics would suggest blind opposition to anything the govt put forward.

Can you blame them?

Quoting Tin:
Don't forget that Labor had pretty much the same approach for the previous decade. Funny how the Labor pollies forget that part when they complain about it.

Ah, selective memory is such a convenient trait, especially when memories of 2003 are conveniently forgotten.


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