The best Gaming PC you can build today - updated

chris lampard
08 September 2011, 4:00 PM


Gaming PC builder Chris Lampard has updated several components in our gaming build. One is the motherboard, now featuring the hot GIGABYTE G1.Sniper2


APC's Live Builds Gaming editor, Chris (Igniserator) Lampard, is a gamer who decided at 15 to start building his own PCs to get the best gaming performance possible on his budget. He might work in IT now, but says he's still a gamer at heart with a passion for knowledge about PCs. Below is his first Gaming PC build for APC, where the challenge, of course, is to build a system that will smash a game like Crysis, but on a budget within the reach of ordinary people. All prices are in Australian dollars.

CORE SYSTEM [updated: September 8, 2011]

CPU: Intel Core i7 2600K - $325

I've gone with the newest generation Intel Core i7, a processor that's able to achieve a clock speed of 5GHz on air cooling. With such high core speeds it means it will easily handle the latest games. Also, the smaller 32nm manufacturing process results in lower temperatures and less power usage, which means better overclocking results.


COOLER: Corsair H100 - $169

The new top-of-the-range closed loop system from Corsair incorporates double the size radiator and also an extra fan. You could also run a 4-fan push-pull configuration for maximum efficiency. This system basically doubles the cooling compared to what most people use, so expect super low temps and noise, since it won't have to blow to hard to cool things down. Also incorporated is a fan speed control on the pump, whose  level is indicated by white LEDs surrounding it. Note that a case with 2 x 120MM adjacent fans is needed.


MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte G1.Sniper2 - $429

The newest board from the gamer’s division at GIBABYTE, the G1.Sniper2 really hits the sweet spot, with features like a Bigfoot Killer NIC for great latency times; Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi on-board audio and high quality Nichicon MUSE capacitors. The aesthetics on this board are the best yet, with the incorporated firearm shaped heatsinks and the incredible -looking LEDs. The board includes support for 2200MHz memory and SLI/Crossfire, although if you are using Crossfire or SLI the PCI-E speed is limited to x8. There's also SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3.0 and all the usual socket 1155 motherboard trimmings. The real focus is gaming with a side of overclocking.


GRAPHICS: VTX3D AMD Radeon HD 6990 4GB - $799


Choosing between this and the GTX590 was hard, but however the $200 saved here allows for better hard drives for the system. Also, I see no reason in paying the extra $50-$100 for better known brands unless their cards have a different cooler or are overclocked - but if they are the stock AMD board, why pay more? They all have a two year warranty anyway. This card will easily power a 5760x1080 resolution at max settings on just about any game while achieving 60+ FPS. I do plan on overclocking the card to see what extra I can get also. This item has had a price bump from limited stocks and availability so it is probably out of reach for most people till new stock arrives if you got one consider yourself lucky specially for $799.


RAM: 2 x 4GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3 - 17000CL9 2133MHz - $129

The new speed in memory is 2133MHz and that's what this kit is running at out of the box. I expect to get 2200MHz + out of these modules easily. I went with only two sticks as two always overclock better than four sticks. But if overall speed isn’t a necessity then another pair would be fine to add in. However I find 8GB a sustainable amount of memory for most users.


HARD DRIVE 1: 4 x OCZ Vertex 3 60Gb RAID 0 - $556 ($139 each)

These solid state drives are the ones to beat in the SSD world at the moment. The last generation SSDs were capable of 280/270MB/s but the new drives are capable of 550-500MB/s, in other words, double the speed of last generation. This equates to sub-10 second Windows load times and also sub-5 second game load times. That's blazingly fast performance with no bottleneck. Expected data speeds of 1Gb/s+ !!! once a RAID array is set up. 


HARD DRIVE 2: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - $88

The storage drive can be the one from your current build or you can put in something like the WD Caviar Black for the extra storage speed boost. 1TB is a good place to start and the Caviar Black model keeps the transfer rates up. The reason for using only a single drive is that its fully reliable assuming SMART is enabled and running fine so all backs ups and steam games, music, video's etc. should be stored on this drive for safe keeping.


OPTICAL DRIVE: Pioneer DVR-219L DVDRW - $29

Prices are down again on drives and this Pioneer is one of the best, and also going quite cheap. I suggest you pick one of these up if you're  using a drive that's two years or older just for the transfer speed boost that newer generation drives provide. I hate waiting for installs.


PSU: Silverstone Strider 1200W Gold - $275

I was taken by this PSU's fully modular design and the gold efficiency rating. It's also very well priced. The reason I have gone with such a large power supply is to future-proof the build as the next addition to it will probably be a second HD 6990. Also a very quiet power supply and not as flashy as some out there also has the hammer finish.


CASE: Antec Twelve Hundred V3 - $205

I ended up going with the Antec as I needed a 2 x 120MM fans at the rear to support the new Corsair H100 cooler. This case also has 13 drive bays and accepts motherboards from Mini-ATX to ATX. It has a max video card length of 444MM which is massive! There's a front USB 3 port with the other usual suspects and also a CPU cut-out, a bottom mount power supply and a top 200MM exhaust fan. This case is roomy and well ventilated; in all, a great case.


TOTAL SYSTEM COST - (AUD $3,133)

Previous Gaming machine - Dec 5 2010

Previous Gaming Machine - May 13 2011

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ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

Is it me? or does that look like a Corsair H70 with Antec fans??

The new H60 has a better pump, waterblock and radiator design, and is quieter then the older H50, and more efficient than the H70 in cooling

Money saved would pay for a Blu-ray reader combo drive. They are like $90

13 May 2011, 10:44 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

However the H60 also uses corregated piping rather than the easy bend piping used by the Antec allowing me to get better placement of the radiator, also pretty sure you will find that Asetec make the pump and they were the pioneers of the closed loop water cooling systems with corsair coming in after with thier own design.

Also the Corsair provides no LED's which is common place in any gaming build, also the Corsair ahs 1 major factor of why i didnt choose it, its a pull-push setup so emaning it pulls fresh air from the back of the case and blows it back into the case. Thats seems ok however with the Fortress case i am using that would mean the 3 x 180MM fans are pushing against the dual 120MM of the cooler which then totally destroys all the cooling performance.

The Antec allows the usual push-pull fan configuration where the fan sucks air from inside the case to blow it out, Corsair's system is not viable on a case that dosen't use exhaust fans as it will increase the heat and the heat will be trapped.

I went with the best option for the build in this case with the different cooling system in the Fortress.

Also i dont even own a Blu-Ray and with the exorbitant prices at the moment i don't suggest paying for one, if you give it a little bit longer prices will start to drop once again.

Chris.

13 May 2011, 11:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John in Brisbane (Regular user):

I just installed an h70 so that it blows outwards and it seems to run fine. I thought that was a big part of the appeal of water cooling - getting the heat out of the case.

12 January 2012, 12:43 AM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

it REALLY depends on the fans. Some do a better job of blowing air, others do a better job sucking air.

One thing, on thekoolroom.com website, they have a sealing strip that will block any air gaps between the fan and the rad. This MAY give you slight better performance.

That site's awesome. there would be something that will let you mount the rad to the case, and run the fans on the otherside of the rad so they blow throw the rad and still get air out of the case, (you know what i mean, it's been an aweful long day Coding, and my heads more than a little mushy).

THAT said, the difference between pushing air and pulling it over the rad will be about 2-5% max... sooo about 1-2degC.



12 January 2012, 6:03 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

All you'd need to do is change the fan orientation to fix the issue with the push pull pull push thingy, and that hose will be 6mm, with re-enforce outh sleave.

i was @ Gamedude yesterday lookin @ the box, should have opened it up and had a better look :)(they still let me look out the back in the warehouse *grin*)

13 May 2011, 11:12 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

reginald (Frequent poster):

In all a very nice system but don,t you think that the AMD 1090T black costing $209 and then coupled with an asrock 890gx extreme 4 costing $160 is a far cheaper option than the one you set up and it can be run at a stable 4gzh all day without any heat dramas.You do not have to run an core i7 to get extreme performance and its much cheaper on the pocket.The power supply you can get away with an OZC 750 watt fatality for $129 and still save a bundle.The days of intel ruling the overclocking world with their costly bundles are gone, i can get the same performance for a lot less money.

13 May 2011, 12:14 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

@APC, I see the reply system is on the fritz again!

@reginald, I don't think economy is high on the list of this build. It's all about performance, and here, AMD is way behind Intel.

13 May 2011, 12:51 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

i'm not going to touch on the CPU thing, but no, you wouldn't be able to run that OCZ powersupply.

The 6990, on it's own, pulls 375w. 75 from the Motherboard, and 150 each from the 2x 8pin PCI-e Power connectors.

There's also a funky little switch that bumps the BIOS on the card to an "extreme" setting, unlocking the cores, overclocking the cores, and increasing poer draw to 450w.

Not only that, but you have to take into account the current draw, in amps, this thing will need. No PSU under $199 wil be able to supply the current needed over that 8pin connectors to run this card.

Full load, this system, with this card running stock spec, draws close to 750w.

that OCZ PSU wouldn't last long in this system. False economy

13 May 2011, 1:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Brandon 'Gordo' Gordon (New user):

i think blu-rays discs are a bit overated anyway

07 June 2011, 11:38 PM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CronosAU (New user):

Good build, would be great for performance with stock speeds and overclocking on those cpus is easy. Stock headstink on a non overclocking board I had a 2600K running at 5ghz stable so with a good watercooling setup and more than a quick look, I am sure you could get great results.

08 June 2011, 2:24 PM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

Just noticed the Gigabyte G1-Sniper2 Z68 board been released.

IF nothing else, the NIC will give you lower latencys, and the better sound card will give you a couple of FPS, not to mention the beter SQ...

and it's PCIE 3 capable :)

sexy looking too

25 August 2011, 7:13 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Yeah holding off for a little to see what Asus brings to the table :) i give them another week if nothing the Gigabyte Sniper2 will be the one for me :D

25 August 2011, 10:58 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

wow i just took notice of the VRM's on the Sniper2 and its a let down with only 8 the UD7 boasts 24 so should produce the higher overclock ? Ill wait for rotel to comment on this also as i find it strange they dropped so many VRM ill have a look into it.

Which in turn will produce more fps than gained through the extra components also the Sniper2 has only one network port i know it is the Bigfoot NIC but the UD7 provides teaming functionality which is also wonderful the only real wins on the Sniper2 are aesthetics, PCI-e 3.0 and Creative Sound and for $150 on top of my gaming pc you could grab a Sonar card etc. which works out only $30 more for even greater sound.

26 August 2011, 1:34 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Chris.Lampard:
wow i just took notice of the VRM's on the Sniper2 and its a let down with only 8 the UD7 boasts 24 so should produce the higher overclock ?


hmmm.... as long as the rails can supply enought current for the OC, it matters little. on the other hand, the UD7 will last longer. the system will continue to run if it loses a rail, (blown cap say), and keep going. If the Sniper2 has just enough rails to run, if it loses one, then it will become unstable.

isn't this a gaming rig? why would you need 2 NICs?



Quoting Chris.Lampard:
Creative Sound and for $150 on top of my gaming pc you could grab a Sonar card etc. which works out only $30 more for even greater sound.

ok, i have like a 1/2 a dozen high end sound cards, and i still think me XFi Extreme music sounds the best, in pure stereo anyway...
(i have an Asus D2, DX2, XFi usb, the extreme music, an Audigy 4 Platinum, and even a Hercules XP7.1)

and those nichion caps should make a difference the sounds tonal quality. from experience, the difference between a cheap electrolitic and a good one is quite audable.

if i could justify it, i'd get one of these - Auzentech X-Fi Bravura 7.1
really has good specs...

Obivously, is doesn't matter if you are running a $10 spet of speakers... it's not worth the effort...

this xmas break if i have time, wanna build a set of horn loaded speakers, and repair my Rotel amp... soo many things i wanna do.... soooo wish i had the time



26 August 2011, 6:07 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

ok, read up some more on the power rail on the UD7, it's actually 2x12 power rails, which the system turns off the second one to save power, heat degridation, and compenent life

Also, the Driver MOSFET thing, all VRM circuits have a cap, choke, MOSFET and driver IC, they have stuffed the Driver IC into the MOSFET to save space on the board, meaning they can pack more rails into the same space.

Just how much of a difference this makes, i couldn't tell you.

most cheap boards only have 3+1 rails, with the +1 for the PCI-e slots. At this level, OC can be hindered, but i've never seen a chip pull more than 140w, and i'm pretty sure that 6rails can handle that sort of current draw.

Espeically @ today's level

26 August 2011, 6:21 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Yeah was thinking they dialed it back as the engineers had worked in more lanes for voltage as you said, they must have deemed it unnecessary and the digital voltage controller would keep the current very stable im assuming so lets see whether Asus can meet my time frame if not the Sniper2 is it :)

26 August 2011, 6:28 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Sorry for font issues guys trying t osort them out :)

08 September 2011, 3:29 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wapilot (New user):

Any pics of the finished machine and Performance specs?


09 September 2011, 9:07 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Not as of yet walipot still awaiting parts i have had a older stand alone Bigfoot Xenomorph NIC in my possession before and the results were pretty epic however i am trying out AsRock's XLAN which is really just cFosSpeed skinned for AsRock with a free license. Works well too so far, however the e2100 chip is far superior for throughput.

Can't wait to test this beast out.

09 September 2011, 9:27 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John in Brisbane (Regular user):

Nice ongoing article. I guess this build is about "best" rather than "best value" but I've just clocked a 2500k to 4.8Ghz with a $140 Asrock mobo - almost $280 cheaper. And that's using only the one-click OC-tweaking tool rather than doing it properly. Its only got 2x 8x PCIe but that's the standard spec I believe and, according to tomshardware.com, the FPS difference between 2x 16x and 2x 8x is surprisingly small - like 5%. I know you get what you pay for but the price to performance/features graph for mobos seems to flatten out a lot beyond about $250.

11 September 2011, 10:27 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Caleb D. (New user):

I need some help please.
I want to build a Gamin PC for around 2000$ US (a little bit more if it worth).

The processor it's easy to choose: i7 2600k
But now i'm stock with the motherboard.
What is the best performance/value motherboard?
A lot of pepole suggest me the "Asus P8z68 V-pro" what you think about it?
It's worth to pay more for "Asus maximus Extreme 4" or any other cards?


25 September 2011, 7:47 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

Are you going to overclock it? if not the maximus, and pretty much anything over $170 us is money wasted, and better used in the video card for the system.

a pure gaming PC doesn't need the fastest processor, in all honestly.

in a 2K budget - i2500K, Z68 board, (you choice), OC the chip to 4.1ghz, (stock cooler will handle that without issue, i'm running mine @ 4.2, in a very small case, being cooled with a single 12cm fan) 4gb memory, a good case and a 800w name brand PSU, and either an AMD HD6990 video card.

hell, until recently, i was running an i3 2100 and a GTX295 and the i5 2500K was only faster when i overclocked it in games...

something to think about,

25 September 2011, 10:26 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Caleb D. (New user):

Thanks for you'r fast answer!

Yes, I will probably try to overclock the 2600k to a top of 4.5Ghz... if it stable.
Do you think that the Asus P8Z68 V-Pro will do the thing? Or should i go with maximus or anything else...

For the video card i was thinking to replace in 2-3 years, so I was thinking for an asus or gigabyte overcloacked graphic card.
Maybe between: GTX 570 / HD 6970 (i'm open for any choices)
I will only play into 46" TV 1080p resolution


What do you think ?

25 September 2011, 12:03 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Looks good Caleb just mnake sure your cooler clears the rams heatsinks and your mobo has everything you need :)


16 October 2011, 1:51 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

rexy (New user):

check this please - will it work:
i7 2600k $329.00 cpu
p8p67v3 $156.00 mobo
corsair cmz8gx3m2a1600c8 $99.00 v-ram
thermaltake rx-1 overseer $148.00 case
ocz gold modular 850w $179.00 psu
thermaltake frio ock $79.00 air cooler
asus engtx560 1gb $199.00 gpu
win 7 home premium $91.00 o.s.
corsair 120gb $200.00 s.s.d.
would it be possible space permitting to add :corsair hydro h60 $99.00
shopbot.com.au - love it!

16 October 2011, 1:52 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Hey rexy,

Build seems good just remember when you add your second card there is a jumper on the board to free the second PIC-e slot up from 1x which its running at at the moment it should go up to 8x but may stay at 4x which will only cut your fps by 3-5 so its minimal loss 8x is optimal and 16x is overkill :)

Also if you really need full tower go for it however i think a mid tower should be fine with the parts you have listed so why not go to a Thermaltake Dokker ? they are around the $60 mark then buy a USB 3 front panel and a fan controller for around $40 all up so save's you $50 and then you can get the 2 x 60Gig SSD's :) Case is a personal choice im just saying money saved there can get you double speed storage.

Other than that it all looks great that cooler has had some really good reviews did you see the newer version of it ?

I'd also push for a GTX560Ti at least or even a HD6950 if cash permits and also try going 2 x 60gig OCz Vertex 3's in RAID 0 will be more than double the speed of the Corsair and only $40 more :) Raid 0 SSD's are blisteringly quick considering they have doubled speed from last generation (mine) to the newer generation the next firmware update may be the same :)

Chris.

Chris.

16 October 2011, 1:58 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BackInTheGame (New user):

would such a setup fit in a mid sized case easily

26 October 2011, 4:35 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BackInTheGame (New user):

Just a question, would a set up like this fit into this mid sized case
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AERO-COOL-CYBORGX-HIGNEND-INTEL-AMD-COOLER-COMPUTER-SYSTEM-GAMING-PC-MASTER-CASE-/250917119181?pt=AU_Components&hash=item3a6bd364cd

26 October 2011, 4:35 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

steve99 (New user):

this is also a great gaming parts for custom building
http://supergamingparts.hopto.org/

06 December 2011, 6:14 AM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

Currently I'm planning on building a much cheaper rig (only 1/3 the price!) but with a still-decent level of power...
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ($65)
Lite-On IHAS124-04 Internal DVD Writer ($18!)
Thermaltake CLP0564 Frio Dual 120mm Universal CPU Cooler ($50!)
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor ($270!)
Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W Continuous Power Supply ($100!)
Antec ATX Full Tower Gaming Case V3 ($160!)
EVGA X58 FTW3 Edition Motherboard with USB 3.0 and SATA III 6 GB/s ($250!)
EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 GPU ($240!)
OCZ Vertex 3 2.5" 120GB SATA III SSD ($190!)
Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB (7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s) 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ($240!)
I'm thinking about switching the EVGA X58 FTW3 (http://tinyurl.com/EVGAX58FTW3) to a ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z Z68 Motherboard (http://tinyurl.com/ASUSRoGMaximus), but since this is (apparently) a great place to get advice on computer rigs... I would like some advice on what to switch around/change. (I'm trying to keep the rig under $1.5k, so if you find some ultra-cheap ultra-strong graphics card then don't forget to mention it!)

Thanks,
Hyperaxe1



08 December 2011, 5:59 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Intel Core i5 2500K
In stock $235.00 $235.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
In stock $39.00 $39.00
Gigabyte Radeon HD6970 2GB Overclocked
In stock $385.00 $385.00
OCZ Vertex 3 60GB SSD
In stock $129.00 $258.00
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL11D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3
In stock $99.00 $99.00
ASRock Z68 Fatal1ty Professional Gen3
In stock $255.00 $255.00
FSP Aurum Series 750W Modular Power Supply
In stock $139.00 $139.00
Pioneer DVR-219L DVDRW OEM
In stock $29.00 $29.00
Enermax Fulmo Mid Tower Case [ECA892BG]
In stock $115.00 $115.00


Sub-Total: $1554.00


over budget and minus a 2TB but much more future proofed swap the HD6970 for a GTX 570 if you need Nvidia Tech.

Chris.

08 December 2011, 6:10 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

Any chance you could give me a link to where you got those prices? I'm currently looking at a variety of prices (with the help of a Google Chrome plugin which finds the cheapest price) so I'm going to check how much I can bump that down to :P
EDIT: Never mind, found some sites that sell it cheaper :o

09 December 2011, 4:29 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

Okay, so I've been reviewing those components and I've been thinking about switching the ASRock Fatal1ty for a GIGABYTE GA-X58A-OC X58 Intel Motherboard. This should work, right?

14 December 2011, 7:41 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

you could, but it wouldn't work.

the X58 OC board is a s/1366 board, were the Asrock in chriss' build a Z68 s/1155.

I'm running a Asus P8Z68-V pro board, which is a pretty awesome board. Running the same 2500K Chip @ 4.0ghz, (MAX OC) on a Gigabyte board, and with this i'm getting 4.3ghz with just hitting the OC button.

Also this TPS thing that this board runs... BF3 on the Gigabyte board ran @ just shigh of 100%, were now it runs @ about 50-60%. so the crap works :)

anyway.

i only bought that board cos of the cost/features. i WANTED a P67 board, but i couldn't find a p67 sabertooth (NEW anyway), a P67 board will overclock better, were the Z68 has SRT and that virtual video card thing, (i forget what it's called), that helps with video encoding.

back on topic, if you have a hard on for gigabyte gear, look @ The Z68XP-UD5

15 December 2011, 10:25 AM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John in Brisbane (Regular user):

p67 overclocks better? Well that sucks. I luckily ended up with one but I bet the average nerd would assume the z68 is as good or better for overclocking... I'm loving the new CPUs but intel is still doing silly things with these chipsets. Thanks again to apc for the tips that got me mine!

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Hyperaxe1 (User):

Thanks for the advice rotel, I've decided to switch to the ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 (which should technically work) since it is apparently a great motherboard :o

15 December 2011, 4:52 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

yep. basically, you board wont have onboard video like mine, (but still has access to the Virtu accelleration), and some extra features over mine, and PCIe-3, (were mine doesn't).

so yes, will work very well

16 December 2011, 2:17 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

I managed to find a 2TB HDD for about $183... however even without it the price is about $1585 (that's probably cause of the uber awesome ASUS motherboard :P
...If only newegg would ship internationally... then I could probably pull the price down to about $1500.

(And this computer could play Battlefield 3 on some decently high settings, right?)

20 December 2011, 2:06 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wapilot (New user):

Hi Chris,

I am considering building a new system and my budget is around 1000-1200 max. It will be used for browsing, multitasking lots of windows open and some occasional gaming. I am trying to have a system that will be good for a few years on.

Could I get your opinion on how these components would work together?

Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core CPU (3.40GHz - 3.80GHz Turbo, 850-1350MHz GPU) - LGA1155, 1333MHz, 5.0 GT/s DMI, HTT, 8MB Cache, 32nm, 95W
$380.10
OCZ 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk, MLC, SATA-III (VTX3-25SAT3-120G) Vertex 3 Series Read 550MB/s, Write 500MB/s $245.15
G.Skill 8GB (2 x 4GB) PC3-17000 2133MHz DDR3 RAM - 9-11-10-28 - RipjawsX Series $100.30
VTX 3D Radeon HD 6790 - 1GB GDDR5 - (840MHz, 4200MHz)256-bit, 1xDVI, 1xHDMI, 1xMini-DisplayPort, PCI-Ex16 v2.0, Fansink $145.50
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - DVD, 64-Bit - OEM Includes Service Pack 1 (SP1)$126.50
Fractal Design Define R3 Midi-Tower Case - NO PSU, Black Pearl
2xUSB2.0, 1xUSB3.0, 1xAudio, 2x120mm Fan, Stunning Front Panel Design, ATX $165.00
Asrock Z68M/USB3 Motherboard
LGA1155, Z68 (B3 Stepping), 2xDDR3-2133, 1xPCI-Ex16 v2.0, 2xSATA-III, 4xSATA-II, RAID, 1xGigLAN, 8Chl-HD, USB3.0, VGA, DVI, HDMI, mATX
$104.70.

I will be reusing my TX650 W PSU and 1 xIDE 24x dvd optical drive as well as my SATA 1TB HDD and my keyboard mouse monitor etc.

Total cost for build is about 1200. Plus I will probably get the extra 5 fans to fit out the Fractal case for extra cooling.

Cheers, Tony.



02 January 2012, 6:49 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris.Lampard (User):

Hey Tony, only changes I would consider to futureproof your PC for a few years is changing the HD6790 out for at least a HD6950 get a HD6970 if you can afford it, also look at getting a motherboard which has 2 x PCi-e 16x instead of just the single so later on you can just add another card. Also I would go for Professional version of Windows 7 if you have a home network.

So change out the Gfx card for a HD6950/HD6970, then the motherboard to a AsRock Z68 Pro 3 Gen 3 $129 which is dual gfx card ready and Win 7 from Home to Pro if you like ? If you need to save some cash and don't normally use more than 4 programs at once drop the i7 2600K to the i5 2500K for a $100 saving.

Also looking at your prices they are steep try looking at www.pccasegear.com price's as with postage it'll still work out cheaper than where you are shopping and youll get a better PC.

Chris.

02 January 2012, 11:06 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

The only issue i see is that IDE drive... MOST new boards DONT HAVE an IDE port. just make sure that you get one that does, or spend the extra $30 on a new drive :)

03 January 2012, 10:48 AM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wapilot (New user):

Thanks Chris & ss-Rotel.

I am getting a few more quotes from local suppliers to compare with PC CASEGEAR. I have taken your advice and changed to a HD6950 and Asrock Pro3 Gen3 MB. Would like W7 Prof too even though we don't have a home network now we may in future.

03 January 2012, 2:43 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

ok, i have HAD a homegroup network set up, and have just gone back running straight shared folders.

the only thing that was/is an issue, is that my XBOX wont see a normal share, but it only saw 1/2 of the homegroup shares anyway... but i just set it up as a Media center extender, and it's all cool.

ANYWAy... just saying, all you need is Home premium. Pro will give you the ability to log into a Domain, but its unlikely you'll EVER do that.
(i have access to all the cool server software, and i still haven't seen a need.)



03 January 2012, 5:05 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

You could also buy 2 60GB OCz Vertex 3 SSD's off of PCCaseGear and run them in RAID 0 (as only W7 Pro+ supports RAID 0) for ultra fast speeds :P

05 January 2012, 9:40 AM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

ummm Negatory

all vers of windows support HARDWARE RAID, you just have to make sure your motherboard supports it.

all ver of windows 7 supports a form of SOFTWARE RAID, but not on the boot drives, (not easily). all support SPAN and software Stripe, (RAID 0), and PRO and above support software mirror, and RAID 5 i think.

all boards should support HARDWARE RAID of some sort, usually at least RAID 1 and 0, but some cheap, (Sub$100) boards may not, so check the manual

05 January 2012, 12:12 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hyperaxe1 (User):

Oh cool... But I read somewhere that only Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate supported RAID 0... oh well, I can't find that site anymore :L

05 January 2012, 1:33 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

http://blogs.withalan.com/a-few-notes-on-windows-7-software-raid

my bad, software RAID 5 isn't supported, that server only.

remember, we're talking SOFTWARE RAID setups only. HARDWARE RAID is different. if you can set up an array in your BIOS, then thats hardware, and this is the only way to do it if you want your OS drive in an Array.

the only exception to that rule is SRT, which again is technically hardware, but you have to enable it in windows once it's been installed, and the driver's setup.

06 January 2012, 9:58 AM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wapilot (New user):

Deleted Double post.

03 January 2012, 2:43 PM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

bvanhoogstraat (New user):

I would like to build a gaming pc with similar performance, but am a fan of AMD. Could you tell me what components you would suggest for the build?

05 January 2012, 2:52 AM (4 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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