Microsoft introduces ‘browser shuffle’ ballot in Windows 7

David Flynn
08 December 2009, 6:44 PM


Microsoft will revise its ‘browser ballot’ Web browser installation routine for European editions of Windows 7 and present the top five browsers in a random order.


The beleaguered EU edition of Windows 7 has taken another twist, with Microsoft agreeing to randomise the list of the most popular browsers during the operating system’s setup.

The previous plan, hatched earlier this year, arrayed the five leading browsers according to alphabetic order of the vendor or parent company.

This saw Apple’s Safari in pole position followed by Google’s Chrome, Microsoft’s Internet Explorer, Mozilla’s Firefox and Opera’s Opera.



The original Windows 7 EU 'browser ballot' layout – good for Apple, not so much for Firefox or Opera

The intent was to ensure that Internet Explorer didn’t gain any unfair advantage when customers were prompted to choose their default Web browser.

But the execution of this ‘browser ballot’ rankled Mozilla, with Firefox designer Jenny Boriss claiming the proposed ordering of browsers “is about the worst option possible, both for user choice and the Web as a whole. Windows users presented with the current design will tend to make only two choices: IE because they are familiar with it, or Safari because it is the first item.”

One of her suggested alternatives was to randomise the browser orders for each Windows installation, which according to Bloomberg is the path Microsoft has now adopted.

“Under the modified settlement, computer users with Windows will see a ballot screen that randomly lists the top five Web browsers that compete with Internet Explorer” Bloomberg’s Matthew Newman writes. “Users would then click on a browser’s icon and the program would be downloaded from the Internet.”


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AndyCee (New user):

I imagine Jenny's next step will be to investigate the choice of the "random" algorithm used.

08 December 2009, 8:49 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting AndyCee:
I imagine Jenny's next step will be to investigate the choice of the "random" algorithm used.

Given Microsoft never managed a true implementation of random that would be entirely reasonable. :)



08 December 2009, 10:47 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gankul (User):

They could have done it by product Name.

Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari.

But im pretty sure that wont make firefox any better off.

Its just complaints for complaints sake really. How about instead it randomly installs a browser by default, no choice about it. But the browser cant be IE. then you ahve the choice later of installing IE. :)

09 December 2009, 4:39 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AlexF (New user):

Yes, I suspect Opera's or Apple's (Safari) algorithm would be more reliable.

09 December 2009, 6:39 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnthonyBrisbane (New user):

Will the EU also force Apple to introduce a browser ballot on Mac OS? What about the iPhone where Apple don't even allow other web browsers.

08 December 2009, 11:52 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Since this is about monopolies, I suspect if Apple ever get a monopoly, they might. As for phones, I can't see any manufacturer getting a monopoly because people like choice, and generally buy phones based on function rather than the software they need to install on it.

09 December 2009, 10:18 AM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnthonyBrisbane (New user):

Try buying a Mac without Mac OS. Apple force you to use Mac OS on Mac. Mac OS has a much bigger market share on the Mac than Microsoft does on a PC. Also all this Apple software comes with Mac OS as well.

09 December 2009, 6:52 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):


Quoting AnthonyBrisbane:
Try buying a Mac without Mac OS.


Try buying a non-Apple laptop without Windows... Same thing applies.


Regardless of how Apple sell their product, they do not have a monopoly in either the hardware or software. There are other computers, and other OSes, and in both markets, they hold a tiny share.

09 December 2009, 7:10 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AlexF (New user):

Quoting Tin:
Since this is about monopolies

It's not about monopolies as far as browser is concerned.

The fact that one browser is pre-installed by default does not make that browser a monopoly any more than Toyota's stereo (being installed by default) inside a Camry having a monopoly, even if Toyota is the most popular brand in Australia.

Ipod's browser is indeed a monopoly - no other browser can be installed.

The reason why EU won't force Apple to make a ballot is simply because Opera don't make a browser for Mac.

09 December 2009, 6:55 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting AlexF:
Ipod's browser is indeed a monopoly - no other browser can be installed.


No it's not. You can buy a Nokia, or some other brand of phone. If you bought an iPhone without researching it's limitations, you're an idiot. Doesn't make them have a market share greater than about 75%. Buy another phone if you want a different browser, but this time do some research.


Quoting AlexF:
The reason why EU won't force Apple to make a ballot is simply because Opera don't make a browser for Mac.


Uh huh... Cause the EU is run by Opera? Apple do not hold a major share of the market. That's why the EU (and Mozilla and Google) don't care if Safari is installed.

09 December 2009, 7:15 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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