Microsoft: “No Windows Phone 7 upgrade for Windows Mobile 6.x devices”

David Flynn
01 March 2010, 10:30 AM


Microsoft’s tight hardware spec for Windows Phone 7 smartphones means that Windows Mobile 6.x devices – including HTC’s just-launched HD2 – can’t be upgraded.


Owners of HTC’s highly-praised HD2 touchscreen smartphone will be unable to upgrade the device to Microsoft’s new Windows Phone 7 software when the OS is released towards the end of the year.

Despite the HD2 meeting many of the criteria laid down in Microsoft’s ‘Chassis 1’ spec – including a 1GHz Qualcomm processor, high-res capacitive touch display, 5 megapixel camera and 3.5mm headphone jack – the phone will be ruled out for the simple reason that it has five buttons instead of the three mandated for all Windows Phone 7 devices.

That’s the official line from Microsoft, at any rate. Natasha Kwan, General Manager for Microsoft’s Mobile Communications Business in the Asia-Pacific region, told APC that the HD2 “doesn’t qualify because it doesn’t have the three buttons”, one of which needs to be a dedicated search key with the HD2 lacks.


HTCs slick HD2 smartphone seems to have most of what Microsoft wants in a
Windows Phone 7 device, except for two buttons too many...

Not that Microsoft is singling our the HD2 as a phone or even HTC as a manufacturer. “Because we have very specific requirements for Windows Phone 7 Series the current phones we have right now will not be upgradable”, Kwan explained.

There could be more to this than just the sin of having two buttons too many, however: Tony Wilkinson, Business Operations Director for Microsoft Australia, told APC that “there are some hardware components that the HD doesn’t have”.

We’re not sure what those are because Microsoft has not revealed its complete recipe for Windows Phone 7 devices – that’s due to take place at this month’s MIX developer conference in Las Vegas – but we’ve heard that a pixel-pushing graphics chip might be on the checklist.

For its part, Microsoft says it will not abandon the current Windows Mobile 6.x platform once Windows Phone 7 arrives. The OS will be rebranded as Windows Phone Classic and retained for budget-minded smartphone buyers as well as business customers with 6.x-based apps.

“We think there are people who will want 6.5, and the 6.x platform has a lot of enterprise and line of business apps” Kwan says.

Microsoft will update Windows Mobile 6.5 to 6.5.3 before the Windows Phone Classic rebadging takes place, and Kwan says this will enhance the experience for 6.5 users.

“A lot of 6.5 applications have been built very much from the old paradigm of the stylus. Those legacy apps will be a lot more compatible on 6.5.3 because we have magnifier technology which lets you use your finger for navigating, even though it has a much bigger surface area.”


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dateman (User):

Ok so Microsoft have just announced that the 'Classic' platform is dead and buried...it will be interesting to see if any hardware makers and developers continue to support this version, but surely everybody will be focusing on V7. It's ok for MS to say they will continue to support it, but unless the manufacturers/devs step up to the plate then its ashes to ashes time...

01 March 2010, 10:50 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chief Information Officer (New user):

Big story broken by APC. That means there is no current Windows Phone that will be upgradeable to the coming 7-Series operating system. It effectively makes every Windows Phone on the market now obsolete.

In fact, I wonder why anybody would buy a 6.x Windows Phone, knowing that it will soon be superceded by something else.

Microsoft has also abandoned the enterprise mobile market, in order to go after the consumer market. 7-Series is aimed at teenage consumers, and offers nothing for the enterprise. Applications must be rewritten. No backwards compatibility. A major problem, since software developers have already abandoned Windows Phone. Also, 7-Series is still vapourware, and does not yet exist.

I think we'll see a big movement to migrate to Android for the enterprise, due to its ability to be used in many form-factors (eg rugged and industrial settings). I think consumers will go to Android and iPhone, due to a lack of apps and support for 7-Series.

01 March 2010, 11:13 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Constructor (New user):

Micro$haft need to treat their 'customers' like like humans rather than slaves. ANDROID next for me.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7/

01 March 2010, 10:01 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Constructor (New user):

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01 March 2010, 10:01 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Constructor (New user):

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01 March 2010, 10:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nunkistar (New user):

I was going to upgrade from iphone to hd2 today, luckily I saw this news before going out at lunchtime !!!!!

02 March 2010, 12:31 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Shkedi (New user):

sing this petition and join the fight. WM7 for HD2 !
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7

02 March 2010, 3:39 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SED (New user):

Essentially, no WP7 will have a front facing keyboard. All keyboards must be a slide out in some fashion. Otherwise there would be too many buttons.

02 March 2010, 4:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SED (New user):

Essentially, no WP7 will have a front facing keyboard. All keyboards must be a slide out in some fashion. Otherwise there would be too many buttons.

02 March 2010, 4:03 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Windroid! (New user):

The fact that the HD2 will not upgrade is not so relevant anymore, check out:

http://windroid.com/2010/03/01/windroids-do-have-the-wow-factor-the-lesscro-series/

02 March 2010, 5:20 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Lemonidis (New user):

Quite frankly! If after the long overdue wait this is the best MS can manage they will lose customers in droves to Apple. What with the tied down nature of WM7, no more customisations etc, and now strict hardware restrictions give me a good reason not to go to the iPhone!? Additionally, of course, Apple will no doubt have moved on to the next version of the iPhone! I won't even say anything about the appalling MS marketplace! At the rate MS are going, by the time WM7 finally appears in the marketpalce, they will be lucky to give it away!

03 March 2010, 4:07 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Lemonidis (New user):

Quite frankly! If after the long overdue wait this is the best MS can manage they will lose customers in droves to Apple. What with the tied down nature of WM7, no more customisations etc, and now strict hardware restrictions give me a good reason not to go to the iPhone!? Additionally, of course, Apple will no doubt have moved on to the next version of the iPhone! I won't even say anything about the appalling MS marketplace! At the rate MS are going, by the time WM7 finally appears in the marketpalce, they will be lucky to give it away!

03 March 2010, 4:10 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Lemonidis (New user):

Quite frankly! If after the long overdue wait this is the best MS can manage they will lose customers in droves to Apple. What with the tied down nature of WM7, no more customisations etc, and now strict hardware restrictions give me a good reason not to go to the iPhone!? Additionally, of course, Apple will no doubt have moved on to the next version of the iPhone! I won't even say anything about the appalling MS marketplace! At the rate MS are going, by the time WM7 finally appears in the marketpalce, they will be lucky to give it away!

03 March 2010, 4:11 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Lemonidis (New user):

Sorry. Plese remove the duplicates.

03 March 2010, 4:12 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nisheeth29 (New user):

Spend to 2 seconds to sign the petition if you truly care: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7/

05 March 2010, 6:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Frankoli (New user):

lord give us some patient and htc and microsoft some dignity and humility.
my mail contacts, to htc, about issues regarding the lack of suport, at least the proper one since wm6.5 is unfitfull for the hd2 in fact no multitouch except sense and some other small apps and nothing to push forward the snapdragon well an empty shell an extremelly powered engine withno wheels and no road to go, no proper apps, nothing.
besides htc market strategy, as imoral as it may seem, according to their recent behaviour torwards its clients, points out to the release of a new model, transforming a top of the line device in a completly obsolete hardware. thanks htc for stoping answering my emails, thats what i call support. dont mind your clients inumerous petitions going out there after all, your clients are not your priority, why bother right.
doubting me htc check this out:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/hd2windowsphone7 http://windowsphone7updatehtchd.blogspot.com/

11 March 2010, 9:24 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Frankoli (New user):

are you joking us. do you people just realize what u just said. by implementing this stylus fix jingle crappy update it means all the htc hd2 multitouch potential is going to be completly erradicated. microsoft and htc are just trying to buy their way out of this with a cheap crappy update that doesn´t do zip, only to tell that their are about to send us to hell and make our device definitly obsolet. off with you htc and microsoft. show us some quality, show us some professional etics

13 March 2010, 3:59 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Frankoli (New user):

is anyone out there buyng this rubbish about inimaginable hardware requirements that the hd2 doesnt meet! for what ive seen even using the flawed wm6.5 this device eats psx1 games for brekfast and asks for more and thei are telling us that metro requires a great gpu. do these guys really think they can joke with millions o people who bought such an expensive device and get awy with it with a joke? i sure hope i'm wrong and htc keeps doing a good job, and doesnt screw is image with such an irracional move. lets remain calm and trustfull on htcs quallity background and not speculate. however i cant stop remaing fearfull given that their market strategy is pointing torwrds the development of a new device by negleting hd2 completly

13 March 2010, 4:23 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Frankoli (New user):

how about instEAD OF GIVING US A CRAPPY UPDATE TO 6.5.3 MICROSOFT PROVIDES THE HD2 OWNERS AND THE OWNERS OF PHONES THAT FALL UNDER THE SAME SOFTWARE SPECS HAS THE HD2(WICH REPRESENT THE NEWGEN OF PHONES THAT LONG SURPASSED WINDOWS MOBILE'S 6.5 SOFTWARE SUPPORT HABILITIES) AND PROVIDE THEM WITH A PROPER UPDATE, IF NOT TO WINDOWS PHONE 7, AT LEAST A 6.X.X VERSION UPDATE WITH FLASH AND SILVERLIGHT. AFTER ALL PROPER OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE SUPPORT TO THE NEWGEN HARDWARE HAS BECOME OBSOLETE AND WE COULD AT LEAST, IF NOT THE NEW OS ITSELF, GET SOME OF THE FEATURES FOR WICH THESE NEW DEVICES APPLY FOR, LIKE MULTITOUCH IMPROVED GRAPHICS APPS AND GAMES

19 March 2010, 8:50 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

rrrmightymena (New user):

I just bought the HD2 and I love it. This is the way technology works folks. Newer and better, but it is still important to try each piece along the way. Do not be mad that windows is taking a new direction. It is to early and there is not enough information to know how, good or bad, WV7 will be. Maybe Microsoft has realized that Android and Iphone are spanking there mobile platform and they feel they need a whole new approach. It could end up being something that changes the market all together. I am just saying, I want to enjoy technology each piece at a time.

04 June 2010, 3:54 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

im cole (New user):

will i be able to upgrade my samsung omnia 2 to windows mobile 7 ?

19 August 2010, 2:18 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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