ARGH: Here comes Windows Home Server 2.0 "basic" and "premium"

David Flynn28 November 2008, 12:00 PM

While work continues on a mid-2009 ‘Power Pack 2’ update, Microsoft mulls splitting the next release of its Windows Home Server OS into separate editions


Microsoft’s mantra for its original Windows Home Server platform followed the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!) philosophy, but now the company seems eager to complicate things by releasing two versions of its next-gen home server operating system.

“It’s certainly something we’re contemplating” confirmed Steven Leonard, Senior Product Manager for Windows Home Server, during an interview with APC. “It’s pretty natural at Microsoft to have different offerings for different customer sets, we’re definitely investigating this”.

Many users have been hoping since the lacklustre market response to Windows Vista's many different editions that Microsoft would pare down this strategy in future operating system releases.

While Microsoft has previously raised the issue on its own Windows Home Server Team Blog in a post regarding the appropriate number of users that Windows Home Server should support in a “basic household and (a) more advanced household” (the current build permits only 10 user accounts), Leonard was far more focused on differentiating the builds by “features and functionality”.

“I don’t think it would come as too much of a surprise to think that there are some features and functionality that might be more interesting for a customer that’s really geared up for entertainment (compared to) a customer that’s just focused on the basics of backing up their PCs.”

Citing user feedback through Microsoft’s Connect program, Leonard observed that  “when people send in suggestions they really run the gamut. (With) some of the features and functionality and technology they’re asking for, when you look at the product today you’re not sure where it really fits. So it’s part of an investigation we’re doing to find out what’s important to customers. It’s a reasonable thing for us to be looking at.”

Whether the next full release of Windows Home Server arrives in the single one-size-fits-all build of the 1.0 release or in two fruity flavours, it will be preceded by a free update likely to be called Power Pack 2 and circling in on a mid-2009 delivery.

“Ideally we want to be able to release a product every year, around the same time” Leonard told APC. “We’d love to have an update for customers and OEMs, we released Power Pack 1 in our summer and certainly within the same year timeframe you’ll see another (update).”

“The Power Pack 1 name was a slight departure from the Microsoft terminology, where a lot of the time you hear things like Service Pack 1” Leonard explains. “We chose Power Pack 1 for a couple of reasons. One is that it wasn’t just a service pack. It had enhancements, but we also added new features and functionality. And with consumers being our primary customers for Windows Home Server, we wanted the name to be friendly.”

“The next update will likely be something similar. We’re going to be fixing some things, and adding some features and functionality. It’ll be something similar to what you’ve seen so far (with Power Pack 1).”



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Potoroo (User):

There are two "a"s in "aargh". Otherwise, yawn.

28 November 2008, 12:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

So now you cannot purchase WHS in both premium & basic, but manufacturers may pre-load either on particular hardware of their choosing.

And they cannot understand why WHS is not a runaway success. Go figure.

28 November 2008, 12:53 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

djsflynn (APC staff):

Quoting Raindog:
So now you cannot purchase WHS in both premium & basic, but manufacturers may pre-load either on particular hardware of their choosing.

Not yet... WHS is still one-size-fits-all, the only thing that OEMs can do is add their own software (such as Web or photo serving, in the case of HP).

But in the future, yes, there may be WHS boxes built around a Basic product (for back up and file/print services) or a Premium product (media streaming, maybe also the remote access currently in WHS etc).


28 November 2008, 2:16 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DuckMan (New user):

Here's an Idea
Instead of selling umpteen diferent versions of an OS that fit no one.
how about selling one basic platform and selling seperate Module packs for the different usage types that people may put it to.
In other words for all but the high end enterprise servers that require specialisation for the tasks they perform sell just one Operating system ! No Home server IDiot 1 or 2 No Vista home loser or ultimate loser! Just BAse OS1 then you can sell Home server pack 1 - 10Users and 10 + users and Home server Ultimate pack. SQL server module 1 (1>10 user pack) module 2(small business 10 > 200 user pack) etc etc and all of these simply install a few modules while the CPU is hot and without reboot and you can mix and match the modules to achive what you require so A you don't buy what you don't need and B you don't have needless crap running by default slowing your box and creating serurity flaws.

28 November 2008, 1:28 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pay peanuts get monkeys (User):

I've been a WHS user since it came out and I have to say that is it simply awesome. It just works...no if's buts and don't give me crap about the pre PP1 error...mine has been running for over a year with 3 1/1 TB and it makes life so much easier than a crappy NAS (which I also have).

PP2 will be appreciated but a new one with media functionality and Exchange 'lite' for 10 home users would really hit the sweet spot.

Imagine all those people with smart phones being able to take advantage of it.

And then there is WHS + Live Mesh...

The only reason it's not taken off is because it's not actively pushed...but it's an A1 product.

If you have an old PC lying around...why don't you try it?

Oh and now it's been discounted to $99USD...what a MASSIVE bargain and a great way to get MASSES for useful functionality WAY above a NAS...all for peanuts.

So try it before you knock it, why don’t you monkeys build yourself a test rig?


28 November 2008, 2:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
If you have an old PC lying around...why don't you try it?

Reason one - MS choose not to make WHS legally available for purchase other than bundled with hardware.

Reason two - I can get a whole lot more functionality and usability on the same hardware with a Linux server build.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So try it before you knock it, why don’t you monkeys build yourself a test rig?

Tried it, and to be honest the canned up, no need to think, design of the thing suggest that WHS may actually be targeted at primates.




28 November 2008, 2:59 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pay peanuts get monkeys (User):

Ah comprehension dawns...a rabid Linux lover (like an iSheep though poorer)

So a SBS 2003 core is clearly targeted for morons and linux does everything WHS does...sorry my simian friend (your pic doesn’t do you justice) but it doesn't. You obviously know being an advanced linux model forumologist that it uses Server 2003 as a base. Yes I know that of course it’s built for small children and linux noobs to burn off their puppy fat but it’s a fair start wouldn’t you say?

So does linux backup your XP and Vista machines with incremental image based (think bare metal) backups? Nope...hmm linux strike one...that’s odd

Does linux offer in built software based raid so you can just add/subtract drives ‘till the cows come home without any pain in the arse raid controller? No it definitively doesn’t...strike two...ouch...

Does linux provide you with remote desktop to your machines and a built in web gateway to your data and a free SSL connection with dynamic DNS to connect the whole shebang together? Don’t think it does...strike three...crickey

And just to put the final nail in the linux coffin, does linux take all of say an hour to configure for ALL this?? Surely doesn’t...unless you are lonely and linux is your very special friend...

So now we’ve established that these are just a few of the little tid bits belonging to WHS (and there's a WHOLE swag more) which comes in at a measly $99USD for an OEM license.

I’m sorry linux dude but WHS is cheap (dare I say cheaper in time that spending 100+ hours learning linux – and still having headaches making things like GPUs/sound cards work), reinvigorates old hardware for less than the cost of a cheap iPod, is MASSIVELY useful for ANY SOHO or home user/family and kicks a NAS to the curb.

Sorry also that most people wouldn’t really wish to delve in the whole command line world of entertaining and wooing women (for reference see the 4 x returns of linux netbooks). So here is a linux slanted chat up line. Hello there young attractive female, do you know that I have a really big command line...definitely no GUI here...let me show you how I can obtain _root...

So...if you had performed some basic research before you attempted to knock WHS and M$, you would clearly have known that WHS is available OEM...hence the $99USD price...what, did you actually think you got a whole HP server for that?

If you want to be another hater there is a long queue for the Steve Jobs army ready and willing to embrace you...as long as you convert from your linux religion and ditch recycling old hardware.

If you own M$ computers why would you try it then ditch it? It adds networking in a snap, allows huge drive pools, provides simple remote access and media sharing for your family (think wife/other half, children...err...if you have any of these accessories), backups PC and allows re-imaging in a snap...how do you propose to accomplish all this without pain/suffering or outlaying large amounts of cash or time?

I sense (using my handy Jedi mind trick) that you probably read a review on WHS or you are just not a M$ user. Every review on WHS has basically said it’s the best thing M$ has put out for years (if you use Windows) and that there is nothing really to compare it to in its market segment. Now that the cost is reduced, it’s a no brainer really...just not for certain ‘other’ people...

I actually legally bought WHS OEM when it came out and built my own rig; it was a cinch, so after a full year of use, I think I'm a little more able to lay down comments on how it works than these ‘other’ people...people like you dude...

so...feel the ook baby...now where are those peanuts...darn those pesky monkey’s...


01 December 2008, 12:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Pay peanuts get monkeys (New user):

Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Ah comprehension dawns

I'd very much doubt you'd comprehend anything more complex than your navel


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
...a rabid Linux lover

No just someone far more open minded than a run-o-the-mill fan-boy.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(like an iSheep though poorer)

Insults already? Reasoned thought not your strong suite then.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So a SBS 2003 core is clearly targeted for morons

That is your assertion. Although to be fair you may be far more equipped than other to know what morons would prefer.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
and linux does everything WHS does...

and more!


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
sorry my simian friend


I don't require any additional friendship, particularly not the friendship of the clueless, the ignorant or the ill informed.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(your pic doesn’t do you justice)

grasping for clues already? didn't take you long to expire


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
You obviously know being an advanced linux model forumologist that it uses Server 2003 as a base.

I obviously know lots of things. Your point is?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Yes I know that of course it’s built for small children and linux noobs to burn off their puppy fat but it’s a fair start wouldn’t you say?

What on earth are you on about? I would say or respond anything to such incoherent ranting.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So does linux backup your XP and Vista machines

Yes, full or incremental, on demand or scheduled. Vista machines? There are none, lots of machines with Vista COA stickers none of which are currently Vista machines, other than the occasional bit of VM ware.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
hmm linux strike one...that’s odd

It's far from your first air swing, but yes you struck out.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Does linux offer in built software based raid

Well yes it does, SATA, IDE, SCSI, SSD, what flavour do you require, 0? 1? 5?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
so you can just add/subtract drives ‘till the cows come home without any pain in the arse raid controller?

Yes software raid doesn't require a controller. Your grasping aren't you?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
No it definitively doesn’t

Yes it definitely does! your going to get giddy with all your swings and misses.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Does linux provide you with remote desktop

Hell no! anything that insecure is most definitely disabled.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
to your machines and a built in web gateway to your data

I have full and secure access to all my desktops and data.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
and a free SSL connection with dynamic DNS

free? Dyndns? I could mess about with all the amateur stuff but I'll leave that disabled and stick to reliable static connections thanks all the same.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
to connect the whole shebang together?

Yep without a third party firewall you'll be connecting networks you don't even know exist without effort.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Don’t think it does

Your entitled to be wrong.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
And just to put the final nail in the linux coffin,


This'll be good given you've already had enough strikes to be taking a walk.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
does linux take all of say an hour to configure for ALL this??

Hell no! If it takes longer than 15 minutes to format, configure and press a new box into operation then I've probably been distracted by the phone.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Surely doesn’t...unless you are lonely and linux is your very special friend...

While your waiting your hour and half to format your Windows drive you'll have time to think up some more pointless insult. And please remember I don't require anonymous friendship.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So now we’ve established that these are just a few of the little tid bits belonging to WHS


All we've established is your analysis is more than a few bananas short of a bunch.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(and there's a WHOLE swag more)


But you cannot think of them? right?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
which comes in at a measly $99USD for an OEM license.

Attached to the cost of some hardware you may or may not have required.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I’m sorry linux dude


Don't call me dude!


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
but WHS is cheap

compared with?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(dare I say cheaper in time that spending 100+ hours learning linux – and still having headaches making things like GPUs/sound cards work)

Dare away, but 100+ hours just brands you in the slow learner category. More to the point it display your ignorance of Linux server builds that will never require a single Linux command from the end user. But why spoil a one eyed current day reality right?

Who would you want an advanced GPU or sound card on a server anyway?

Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
, reinvigorates old hardware for less than the cost of a cheap iPod,

Well not legally it doesn't, purchased many WHS licenses for old hardware lately have you?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
is MASSIVELY useful for ANY SOHO or home user/family and kicks a NAS to the curb.

massively useful - shakes head.

And how did NAS come into the conversation oh that's right your grasping aren't you?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Sorry also that most people wouldn’t really wish to delve in the whole command line world of entertaining and wooing women (for reference see the 4 x returns of linux netbooks).

Now your really grasping, before long you'll be quoting references about the short sales life of the Leyland P76.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So here is a linux slanted chat up line. Hello there young attractive female, do you know that I have a really big command line...definitely no GUI here...let me show you how I can obtain _root...

Looks more like a schoolboy gag line, but as desperate as you are I guess you'll try anything.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So...if you had performed some basic research

Oh my research is far from basic. Extensive would be more appropriate.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
before you attempted to knock WHS and M$,

more than attempted, i quite accurately pointed out WHS limitations.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
you would clearly have known that WHS is available OEM...hence the $99USD price...

Do you have a clue what OEM stands for?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
what, did you actually think you got a whole HP server for that?

What did you actually think you'd struck a single blow?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
If you want to be another hater there is a long queue for the Steve Jobs army ready and willing to embrace you...as long as you convert from your linux religion and ditch recycling old hardware.

Fanatical rant and pointless name calling aside. What's this about ditch recycling, weren't you just suggesting WHS could be used for that. Oh yeah but you forgot it required a hardware purchase for sale didn't you.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
If you own M$ computers why would you try it then ditch it?

I don't know it's your rant, you tell us?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
It adds networking in a snap, allows huge drive pools, provides simple remote access and media sharing for your family (think wife/other half, children...err...if you have any of these accessories), backups PC and allows re-imaging in a snap...

Yep no worries as long as what you want to do is one of the option in the Fisher-Price user interface WHS offers, anything outside that your screwed.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
how do you propose to accomplish all this without pain/suffering or outlaying large amounts of cash or time?

I and millions of others can achieve such things with little effort. I guess your just more at home with a kiddy interface.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I sense (using my handy Jedi mind trick) that you probably read a review on WHS or you are just not a M$ user.

Well you better rush your handy mind trick of to the nearest psychic repair shop because your sensing couldn't predict an oncoming freight train.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Every review on WHS has basically said it’s the best thing M$ has put out for years

Best thing MS has done in years is hardly an achievement. Every review you say you've read them all? Goes part way to explain why your entirely ignorant of anything Linux that's arrived in the last 5-7 years.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(if you use Windows)

I do.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
and that there is nothing really to compare it to in its market segment.

Made by monkeys for monkeys huh.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Now that the cost is reduced,

What cost? An OEM bundle cost


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
it’s a no brainer really

Yes it's quite apparent where you've been resting your brain.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
...just not for certain ‘other’ people...

those with a double or triple figure IQ for example.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I actually legally bought WHS OEM when it came out and built my own rig; it was a cinch

So any monkey could do it right?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
, so after a full year of use, I think I'm a little more able to lay down comments on how it works than these ‘other’ people...


You could think that, your quite entitled to be wrong.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
people like you dude...

Don't call me dude!


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
so...feel the ook baby...

put your ook back in your pants



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
now where are those peanuts...darn those pesky monkey’s...

peanuts for you not a chance it's not even your payday.

01 December 2008, 2:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pay peanuts get monkeys (User):

You’ve got to admit that a nigh on 6 page step by step breakdown of my quickly written post is MOST amusing!

I seem to have gotten your proverbial goat up!

But you really are off on a tangent aren’t you? Isn’t WHS designed for the home user and not the psychonaut software genius that you ‘claim’ to be.

You called it a primate product first remember...though I doubt the designers would refer to it as such...maybe because you are a linux and M$ god you should go and help them out with their Windows Server 2008 architecture? It’ll be a snap and while you’re at it could you make sure they get it right for R2...those clueless M$ guys...

Clearly your mind is so vast and all knowing that you picked up linux while you drank coffee that morning. I humbly bow to the all knowing ‘one’...you surely are unique...

Yet, you couldn’t even write a normal post in response...no...it had to like a poor autistic child, in serial format to make a point...or rather 400 points...but not a coherent response...you keep referring to winning something...would you like a cookie?

Anyway...your triple IQ (single digit EQ) must be pretty chuffed with your assessment of my post...but...you just didn’t factor my IQ hovering in the vicinity of 160+ either...haha! (tip: try to feel it coming out ‘all pirate like...ha ha...get it?)

Your definition of learning something while they answer the phone is cute but the majority (not me clearly as I am like you...abusive and all knowing...again see my IQ score) of people that live in the ‘real world’ will take a little longer...say to work out how to use their printer...you know that Bell curve thingy that people with high IQs refer too..

Now, while I rest my poor brain while I try to establish a new twist on String theory and it’s interaction on the human brain on the quantum level, could you please explain to me what OEM is? I clearly (silly me) though it was Overweight Equine of a Man...something similar to a human form of an impotent donkey...mule anybody?

But not to leave your method of serial response out in the cold, I thought I’d help you out and comment on a couple of your replies

Quoting OEM:
I obviously know lots of things.

ROFL...ok...I believe you dude...but are you a biggest loser contestant/contender?

Quoting OEM:
Well yes it does, SATA, IDE, SCSI, SSD, what flavour do you require, 0? 1? 5?

Err...I asked you whether it has software raid like WHS? I thought you knew your product? This is a problem. How can we talk about WHS if you don’t know anything about the drive extender tech?

So with your wunderlinux can you just keep on plugging drives into IDE, SATA, RAID controllers etc and get more and more space on all existing drives? That would be a negative captain...

Quoting OEM:
Hell no! If it takes longer than 15 minutes to format, configure and press a new box into operation then I've probably been distracted by the phone.

Hubris is rather large failing no?

Such pride, though it would clearly take 15 minutes to low level format a large drive...let alone install the OS, configure it, install drivers, configure network yadda yadda...but of course you can do ALL that while you are playing with your G1 Linux phone.

Quoting OEM:
Well not legally it doesn't, purchased many WHS licenses for old hardware lately have you?

Sure have...one $5 case fan please to keep all my hard drives nice and chilly...and one OEM licence while you’re at it...oh $99USD...how fortunate...that’s just what I have in my pocket

How did you test it out by the way Mr OEM?

Quoting OEM:
Oh my research is far from basic. Extensive would be more appropriate.

Hubris again...it would not seem quite so. Your credibility seems a little less than rock solid at the moment.

Remember OEM: Like Linux, the P76 was ahead of its time...

And my witty linux command line pun wasn’t too bad for a quickie...can you do better? I will accept Windows or Apple responses.

Last quote for OEM:
more than attempted, i quite accurately pointed out WHS limitations.

Ehem...where?

You said it was crap...that is not accurate nor does your rant clearly spell out WHS limitations...

Quick trivia question, what is the limit for the hard drive pool and is .NET or the underlying M$ kernel the biggest limitation of WHS? I am willing to accept responses that are less than 6 pages.

All little ‘ol me was trying to do was open a few people’s eyes to a great, un-marketed M$ product. You provided me a way to take it to the next level...

Game on dude...ook...banana anyone?


01 December 2008, 3:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
You’ve got to admit that a nigh on 6 page step by step breakdown of my quickly written post is MOST amusing!

So your easily amused? your point?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I seem to have gotten your proverbial goat up!

Your seem to be under another misapprehension. Monkeys now goats, you are a proverbial Noah's ark


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
But you really are off on a tangent aren’t you?

Not me! No monkeys, no goats, no pointless insults or outdated information.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Isn’t WHS designed for the home user and not the psychonaut software genius that you ‘claim’ to be.

An intelligent assumption would be that any home server was pitched at the more advanced household. Most home users would have no need for a server.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
You called it a primate product first remember...

No I called it a product pitched at primates. remember



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
though I doubt the designers would refer to it as such...

There you go making wild assumptions again.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
maybe because you are a linux and M$ god you should go and help them out with their Windows Server 2008 architecture? It’ll be a snap and while you’re at it could you make sure they get it right for R2...those clueless M$ guys...

I have my own sources of gainful employment thanks all the same.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Clearly your mind is so vast

indeed



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
and all knowing that you picked up linux while you drank coffee that morning. I humbly bow to the all knowing ‘one’...you surely are unique...

no need to bow, but if you'd like to send cash that can be arranged.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Yet, you couldn’t even write a normal post in response


can I help it if my responses are vastly superior to yours?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
...no...it had to , in serial format to make a point...

All valid points, all correct and without pointless name calling. How do you justify references to human illness to be a valid means of salvaging your failing argument?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
but not a coherent response...

coherence would be wasted on the likes of you, you lack the concentration span.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
you keep referring to winning something...

no your confused again, (or still) it was you that was attempting to introduces a numbered strike score.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
would you like a cookie?

No, I'm selective who I dine with.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
.you just didn’t factor my IQ hovering in the vicinity of 160+ either...haha!


Yeah I saw that episode too. If you are going to make wild claims don't quote the numbers of recent episodes of TV sitcoms.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
(tip: try to feel it coming out ‘all pirate like...ha ha...get it?)

Your only tip lies at the point of your head.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Your definition of learning something while they answer the phone is cute but the majority (not me clearly as I am like you...abusive and all knowing...again see my IQ score) of people that live in the ‘real world’ will take a little longer...say to work out how to use their printer...you know that Bell curve thingy that people with high IQs refer too..

What on earth are you babbling about? And more to the point what does it have to do with merits or otherwise of WHS?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Now, while I rest my poor brain while I try to establish a new twist on

You do your 4 second of thinking everyday, regardless, whether you need to or not, right?




Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I clearly (silly me) though it was

And again you were clearly wrong.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
But not to leave your method of serial response out in the cold, I thought I’d help you out and comment on a couple of your replies

This'll be good.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Quoting OEM:
I obviously
know lots of things.

Quoting who?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
ROFL...ok...I believe you dude...but are you a biggest loser contestant/contender?

nothing to sa? so try an insult right?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:

Quoting OEM:
Well yes it does, SATA, IDE, SCSI, SSD, what flavour do you require, 0? 1? 5?

Err...I asked you whether it has software raid like WHS?

And I answered that it did and that that same software raid could handle a wide variety of drive types and raid variants.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I thought you knew your product?

I do!



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
This is a problem.

only for you.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
How can we talk about WHS if you don’t know anything about the drive extender tech?


How could anyone hold a sensible discussion while your insisting on wild and erroneous speculation?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
So with your wunderlinux can you just keep on plugging drives into IDE, SATA, RAID controllers etc and get more and more space on all existing drives?

You cannot change the laws of physics. No technology increases space on existing drives? But like WHS, well actually more effectively than WHS, Linux allows additional space on other drives to be mapped to create the appearance of a single larger drive.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
That would be a negative captain...

No that would be another tick on your ignorance card.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
though it would clearly take 15 minutes to low level format a large drive.

Under windows perhaps. oops your ignorance is showing..



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
..let alone install the OS, configure it, install drivers, configure network yadda yadda...but of course you can do ALL that while you are playing with your G1 Linux phone.

Well the configuration is all automatic until I want to customise and that is after the entire system is loaded. Put the disk in answer a few question and the rest is automatic. Oh did I mention just a single reboot to complete the entire procedure?


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Sure have...one $5 case fan please to keep all my hard drives nice and chilly...and one OEM licence while you’re at it...oh $99USD...how fortunate...that’s just what I have in my pocket

Like I said not legally.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
How did you test it out by the way Mr OEM?

ON a HP box? why how did you test? ritual sacrifice? reading all the worlds reviews?




Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Your credibility seems a little less than rock solid at the moment.

My credibility probably takes a tumble every time I bother to respond to your rubbish



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
...can you do better?

no I've long moved on from schoolboy chants. Still if your amusing yourself I guess your feeling satisfaction.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
I will accept Windows or Apple responses.

You'll accept what your given.


Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Last quote for OEM:
more than attempted, i quite accurately pointed out WHS limitations.

Ehem...where?

Comprehension not your strong suite?



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
You said it was crap...

No I said it was pitched at primates and those who want their thinking done for them.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Quick trivia question, what is the limit for the hard drive pool

quick response, what does it matter, it is not the major limitation of WHS.



Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
You provided me a way to take it to the next level...

Yes you've taken ignorance to new levels.




Quoting Pay peanuts get monkeys:
Game on dude.

Sorry but some of us have a life. Back to your X-Box and do so quietly

01 December 2008, 4:49 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AndyCee (Advanced member):

I'm of the opinion that the consumer would benefit more from the option of a base OS, with the ability to purchase extra modules. Can someone tell me how consolidating every configuration into two versions will benefit the consumer?

I suppose it could reduce production costs for Microsoft to pass on to the customer, at a bit of a stretch...

Someone?

28 November 2008, 9:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting AndyCee:
I suppose it could reduce production costs for Microsoft to pass on to the customer, at a bit of a stretch...

In reality maintaining multiple versions is more likely to increase the actual production costs.



01 December 2008, 8:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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