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David Flynn26 April 2007, 2:28 AM

Microsoft is offering just about anyone 'special' upgrade pricing for Vista now. Hasanyoneactually paid the full ticket price for Vista?


Crazy prices: everything Vista must go!Crazy prices: everything Vista must go!
Windows Vista is starting to look like those Persian rug stores which are always having a 'closing down' sale. 'Full' prices are set laughably high only to make you think you're getting an amazing discount, because no-one pays the marked price. All stock has been slashed, save $$$, why pay more?

The latest from Sultan Bill's House of Software is that anyone running any pre-release version of Vista code -- from the creaky Beta 2 to the slicker Release Candidate builds and assorted Customer Preview Program (CPP) editions -- is eligible for upgrade pricing on the full version of Vista.

It's the silver lining on the cloud for anyone still using pre-release code, which was made widely available during the long run-up to last year's launch of the uber-OS but stamped with a use-by date of May 31st, 2007.

Microsoft says that users of those builds will "begin to receive warning notifications about the upcoming expiration on May 18th". After the clock strikes midnight on May 31 tardy test-drivers will have access to their PC for only two hours at a time, during which they can retrieve their data. "After two hours of use, the PC will automatically reboot without providing the opportunity to save data."

Those two-hour timed sessions will end on August 28th, after which your beta test PC will be the functional equivalent of a beta VCR, except that it won't be able to record or play TV shows (which sorta gives the beta VCR a killing edge).

The missive from Microsoft ends on a slightly pleading note: "Please, do yourself a favour and upgrade to any edition of the RTM version of Windows Vista before May 31".

As we noted last year, those upgrade prices are generally $150-$180 cheaper than the full package. Most people running any Vista preview will be likely to head for the Home Premium, Business or Ultimate skews -- which sell on their own for $455, $565 and $751 but are offered as upgrade deals for $299, $379 and $495 respectively. [Australian prices.]

So we're moved to ask if Microsoft set these sky-high prices -- especially the ouch-inducing $751 tag for Vista Ultimate -- knowing that while almost no-one bar a few retail shopping suckers would pay that much, the apparent discount on the upgrade version would look just too good to refuse.

Want to save $256? Spend just $495 on Vista Ultimate instead of $751. Our special price for you, sir and madam, today at Sultan Bill's House of Software!


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tin:

I'll buy Vista when they sell it at a price that matches it's quality.
That $3 Vista Starter Edition available to third world coutries has about the right price tag. I'd probably even go to $10 for that edition, and up to $100 for Ultimate.

I think I'll stick with the slightly less legitimate "Vista Still Waiting For My Express Upgrade So I've Decided To Pirate Ultimate Instead Edition". I hear it started to become one of the popular versions earlier this month.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dave:

"I think I'll stick with the slightly less legitimate "Vista Still Waiting For My Express Upgrade So I've Decided To Pirate Ultimate Instead Edition"."

that is sooooo true. i've been waiting 4 months and counting for my "express" upgrade, but running vista fully for 3.5 months using the trial hack.

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

webmonkey44:

If this piracy were legitimate and morally right, I think it would teach MS a lesson!!!

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Wes:

Maybe the discount in disguise is a reward to all the beta testers out there who took their time to test the operating system.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TheMe:

betatesters who filed atleast one bug got free vista ultimate or business

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

LOL. Guess which major North American software manufacturer failed to meet its sales projections.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DWZ:

Not that I don't trust you, but do you have a source for this story?

I'd like to read the full terms and conditions.

For example, am I allowed to use the Academic upgrade, or not? What license terms apply (eg. OEM Vista requires you not to change your motherboard).

More to the point does:
RC1 + Upgrade == "Complete package" license
or
RC1 + Upgrade == OEM license
or something else?

It's all very confusing.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous Coward:

You said "beta VCR." Did you mean Beta VCR as in Betamax?

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Flynn:

Yes, we did mean Beta VCR - our bad!

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

OnlineUser:

What country are those prices for as they aren't for the US.

You can pickup Vista Ultimate at best buy full retail for $399 USD and the upgrade for $259.99 USD

Newegg.com sales the full retail version for $378.99 USD



29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

No the figures aren't for the US, funny that. Given that the "A" in APC is for Australian. That's Australian not Austrian for the geographically challenged.

And for the most part the gee whizz prices from freshegg.com will be of little use.
That $378.99 USD equals $458.44 in AUD before you add shipping, bank charges, tax etc, even if chookegg.com was prepared to ship internationally.




29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

backbyter:

Here's a Costco link for Ultimate Upgrade at $237.89:
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11177029&search=vista&Sp=S&Mo=18&cm_re=1-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=4001486&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&cat=84&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=vista&Ntk=All&Ntt=vista&No=7&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1


Personally, I sent Dell a missive earlier this month informing them that they missed selling me an $1,800 desktop because of their insistence on a "Vista only" policy.


29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous Coward:

I can´t think of a better reason now to switch to Ubuntu LINUX or buy a MAC instead of this bloated overpriced piece of Cr*p.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnonymousFreak:

I ordered Windows Vista Ultimate "Full Retail" edition for $360 from Amazon.com. No funny OEM version, no upgrade restrictions. The exact same funky plastic case as can be purchased at Best Buy, CompUSA, or Office Depot. No "Upgrade" on it anywhere. (Oh, and at the other stores, it's only $400. STILL less than the 'upgrade' price you mention.)

I wouldn't pay $450 for an 'upgrade' version at all, especially when I can find it at Amazon for $240. Or the OEM version for $190 ($200 for the 64-bit version.)

And don't tell me you're talking Canadian, since at Future Shop, it's only CAD $500. (CAD $300 for the upgrade.)

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

still more replies from the geographically challanged.

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jeremy:

I would spend 600 to fix my car if it broke down. If I had 600 to just waste on anything, it would be better computer parts or a PS3. Why on earth would I buy a new version of Windows that is riddled with anti-social DRM and licensing that prevents me from being able to install it more than a few time? Forget it.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

retailconsumer:

i'm no genious, but looks like you can get the full version of ultimate through retail for $399, and upgrade for $259. who did the math here?

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

Who did the geography and the foreign exchange conversion there?

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Johnnyhammer:

Considering these people went through heck to test drive Vista, it isn't such a bad deal. I think all the pengin lovers are just manipulating it into a 'see they aren't selling' campaign; however, it is just a fair offer to loyal beta testers.

-Medsocial.com - Medical Myspace, Health and Wellness

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

Some bizarre logic there, but I guess it gets your link published.
Beta testers only go through hell if they try to press unproven product into use in a production environment. Would medical products be sent to GPs for final testing and an FDA stamp? Would GM send a new model out for the public to try prior to its release. (at times I wonder about the latter)

Yes a reward for beta testers efforts is not an unfair thing, all strength to that. But your Linux User conspiracy theory doesn't exactly stack up when their OS of choice and it's betas can be legally obtained for free. No labyrinth of wacky pricing there! And no irate Beta tester who jumped too soon and paid full whack for Vista upon its release.


29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

old_misery:

Sounds like somebody's running low on caffeine! :(

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

No, but Espresso - hold the froth, if you're buying :>

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

NotSoAnnonymous:

For all those who keep commenting how you can get a retail version for cheaper then this upgrade from like BestBuy or Amazon, can I point out the bit in bold right after the prices in the article that says:
"[Australian prices.]"

The fact this article is in an Australian publication *probably* should have alerted you to that. Our money is different, although considering last time I checked the Aussie dollar was buying 0.83 US cents, I think the price difference for the retail licences are a bit over the top.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

confused:

this seems like a non-deal. the vast majority of people running the vista beta & rc versions probably already have/had xp on their computer, and so would already be eligible for upgrade pricing anyway.

sure there might be a handful of intel-mac users and linux geeks trying out vista, but obviously it's in micro$oft's best interest to cut the price for those people, if it means selling them software they wouldn't have otherwise purchased.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hugh:

Talk about about a bunch of B.S. Read the BLOG people... it does NOT say that you can buy the FULL version of Vista for the UPGRADE price. It says in the FAQ:
2. Are there any discounts available to Customer Preview Program participants?
There are no product discounts specifically for participants in the Customer Preview Program; however, because you are using a pre-release version of Windows Vista Ultimate, you can purchase and use the Upgrade version of Windows Vista.

Which is the same as anyone who has a legit XP, 2000, or whatever.


29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Christopher Hill:

I've always been involved in one way or another with computers and almost every O.S. out there. Some legit, some not so legit. I gave up on being a techie and got into bicycle engine kits.
Anyways, I just recently purchased a laptop with Vista as the O.S. I was unable to find anything else when I was out shopping and needed it badly (controller issues on 2 drives of my desktop).
I honestly have to say that I pretty much hate this over-priced, resource hogging, hunk of crap.

Just my humble opinion.
Sincerely,

Christopher Hill
www.chrishill.myknet.org


29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnonymousCoward:

I really am mystified as to how any self-respecting individual would want Vista in the first place. Particularly in view of the fact that it has virtually no additional features over xp, sort-of has some drivers (some of which actually work, from what I hear, now), and is severely crippled in the multimedia venue.

Hell! Almost any Linux distro whips the snot out of Vista on a feature for feature basis, and the price is a helluva-lot better.

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Heckle:

"skews"? Do our brave APC heroes need to go back school to learn some basic proof reading techniques?

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

Sorry, that should have been SKUs! I'll correct it in the article now.

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

djsflynn:

Hey there, Heckle. My use of the word 'skew' (which is a real word, not a typo) rather than 'SKU' is quite deliberate.

Most people would get that a 'skew' of something is a different take on it, in this instance a different version of the OS. (The official definition means more of an oblique angle on something, but what's understood in the mainstream is broader and if you use the word in that context almost everyone would know what you mean).

SKU, as an abbreviation for 'stock-keeping unit', is more a piece of industry jargon, and I'd suggest that not even everyone who is into PCs would be as familiar with SKU as skew. Fortunately, in speaking of derivatives of a single OS, 'skew' happens to be interchangeable with 'SKU', so I can make my article a little more accessible for this audience.

If I was writing in a trade or channel publication then I'd write SKU because the audience gets it.

And if I was writing an article which was specifically all about different versions of Windows Vista (perhaps when Microsoft first decided to dazzle up with so much Vista variety!) and it was for a very tech-savvy audience then I'd use SKU because it's also the most accurate in the content of the article.

But for anything else and for broader audiences I use 'skew' (alternating with version, build, flavour etc etc for variety) because, let's face it, don't we already have enough TLAs to contend with?

David

PS As you can see, I ~really~ don't want to have to go back to school -- I think I still have bruises from getting all those raps across the knuckles with a ruler from Sister Bernadine!

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

quiriuos:

(to djsflynn) Hahaha! I love your comment! Totally shut him/her down. Also, I love the 'Sister Bernadine' bit. I really like your sense of humour... Do you have Livejournal?

(to everyone) Obligatory comment on Vista: I can opt for a FREE (:-P) express upgrade from HP if I wanted to, but first I'm doing my research. Don't want to make a mistake now... So far I'm interested in the 'entirely' new interface. I'm tired of hearing that Microsoft products are resource hoggers *sighs* That's all I have!

29 February 2008, 8:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nat:

I have one suggestion.
DO NOT BUY VISTA.

Apart from the money that Microsoft is trying to make you spend there are all the problems related to DRM.
This means that you will not be free to do everything you like with your PC. They will be able to delete files from your PC, disable you from installing software you like and many other issues...
Read here:
http://badvista.fsf.org/what-s-wrong-with-microsoft-windows-vista

Keep using window XP if you are comfortable with that and start looking at open source (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc). Linux operating system are becoming better and better, more user friendly, more attractive, more profitable and easier to use and they are FREE, because you can get those with no money but over all because you are free to do whatever you like with them.

So when the moment will come to upgrade to a new operating system (or even now) do not go for Vista, chose open source or an OS that does not support DRM.



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