Microsoft: Windows 7 torrents are a fact of life

Angus Kidman06 November 2008, 11:41 AM

Microsoft has stopped just a millimetre short of giving royal consent for users to download pirated copies of Windows 7 that have hit the trackers.


Microsoft is apparently resigned to torrent copies of Windows 7 spreading across the Internet, with a company executive acknowledging there's little than can be done in practice about pirate versions of the pre-beta versions of the new operating system.

In its ideal world, Microsoft would be unleashing Windows 7 in a carefully controlled process. Internal staff on the Windows team have been using Windows 7 builds for a year, but until the past month only a tiny group of selected partners had also been given access to the code. As APC noted in an earlier story today, the current M3 pre-beta release has been distributed to developers, hardware manufacturers and journalists at the PDC and WinHEC conferences, with a broader public beta scheduled for early 2009.

At least, that was the official plan. However, as soon as DVDs of the M3 build were released at PDC, copies quickly began appear on P2P networks across the globe. The PDC and WinHEC copies don't require a serial number, so there's nothing stopping people who download them from installing and testing them. (Microsoft often tends to leave copy protection systems like the dreaded Genuine Advantage off early betas, since it can create problems in testing other new system elements.)

In a press roundtable today, Microsoft executive Gary Schare, director of hardware ecosystem product management for the Windows client, acknowledged that the problem of online distribution was hard to escape.

"Certainly when we went into an event saying 'OK, you have to come to an event to get the bits', you kind of know that someone is going to find a way to put that out there," Schare told APC, though he declined to comment on any specific legal actions Microsoft might take against downloaders: "I can't speak to what our legal team or anyone else has done."

Unauthorised distribution is a mixed blessing for Microsoft. More users gives it extra telemetry for measuring Windows performance, and most online reviews of the M3 release have been broadly positive. Had Microsoft really wanted to rein in piracy, it could have forced the use of a serial number with the pre-release code. The torrent copies precede any official release via its online MSDN and Connect channels, which could annoy some paying subscribers. But if the overriding goal is to get Windows 7 out the door next year, that might have represented too much work.


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Tin (Regular user):

Maybe MS should release public betas at the same time as the developer copies! There'd be no need for a torrent then. Increased official test user numbers is very helpful for something that will end up all over the world...

06 November 2008, 1:52 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnthonyBrisbane (User):

I hope Microsoft keep their copy-protection mechanisms out of the finished product as well. I would have purchased Vista, I like the OS, but am not willing to stuff around with all of the WGA crap it demands, activation is bad enough. I work as a part-time administrator for a company that has 40 PCs. They purchase volume licensing editions, which previously didn't need to be activated. I certainly wasn't going to suggest to them to upgrade to Vista because of the additional time it takes to install having to activate each machine, and potential problems later needing to reactivate if a small hardware change is made. I don't get paid by the hour, so I wasn't going to make additional work for myself because of Microsoft's added extras that no one wants. People who use illegal copies bypass that so MS is only hurting legit buyers and stopping legit buyers from purchasing their product.

06 November 2008, 2:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jake (User):

pirates would still release the serial keys if they put the serial keys in the pre-beta, like they have done with previous versions of windows

06 November 2008, 7:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Why would an upgrade to the most used OS in world be left un-cracked and un-pirated? It's not like activation is making the pirates' lives any more difficult. Pirates don't even see the activation screen.

But I guess M$ should adopt that great new customer relations policy......what is it again? Oh, that 'punish-your-customers-for-actually-paying-for-our-products' tactic. Yeah that'll send sales through the roof.

Here's a promise I'll make to M$. I'll pay for Windows 7 if copy-protection is removed.

06 November 2008, 11:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting McBanjo:
Here's a promise I'll make to M$. I'll pay for Windows 7 if copy-protection is removed.

Copy-protection doesn't need to be removed in total, but copy protection that assumes the user to be a criminal does. Copy protection that throws a wobbly because a user chose to upgrade his HDD rather than send his PC to landfill. MS has a right to protect their intellectual property, but they better come to terms with who own a licensed desktop, and its not them.



07 November 2008, 10:31 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AnthonyBrisbane (User):

Quoting Raindog:
Copy-protection doesn't need to be removed in total, but copy protection that assumes the user to be a criminal does.

It'll be much better for them to remove it in total. It can all be easily bypassed. All copy-protection is a hassle for the legal buyer and doesn't affect the illegal user at all, because all of it's stripped. You should need to enter a serial key, that's it. I have a good friend who couldn't activate Windows XP online because she upgraded her machine, so needed to speak to a person. Problem was she's deaf. She contacted Microsoft via email and the response she was given appeared to be a stock-standard response that showed they didn't even read the email "We are unable to assist with activation issues via email. Please call ..." People who legally buy software should not have to ring up to defend themselves. I shouldn't have had to go around to her place, and do the activation for her. I don't expect Microsoft to have a TTY line, but if they insist on keeping activation that accuses legal buyers of being criminals and insisting they phone Microsoft to continue using their legally purchased product, rather than via the Internet, they must make sure all users have access to it. Microsoft wonder why people pirate their OS's. This is the reason why. If she had an illegal version she wouldn't have had a problem in the world.

10 November 2008, 7:07 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

I agree.

Here's a story in question form... What do you when a legitimate Dell OEM license key activation fails online, fails on the automated phone system, and then fails when talking to the MS employee who refuses to do anything?
In the end, the above situation corrected itself after I attempted an online activation again, but if it hadn't, the owner of the laptop would have had to pay $267 to MS for a product they already owned. Think they'd have liked that? Doubt it.

10 November 2008, 7:20 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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