Mozilla CEO speaks out on future of Firefox

I R TehLazy:

Giev audio plox ?

Seriously come on, I want to hear it all but im sure as hell not reading a dozen pages.

damn.

no really, i love clicking 12 times for 1 story. fools.

Anony-mouse:

Mate, it's your loss then. This is a GREAT read. But I suppose if it was one l-o-n-g article you'd be whining about having to scroll down the page.

raindog:

Just imagine it's a TV remote, younger members have no problems clicking the channel change on those 12 times a minute.

Seriously if you cannot hold concentration for 12 brief pages, you are in the wrong place and you'd be best served by typing "simpsons" into the Google task-bar above.

Simon Hürlimann:

It's no fun to read 12 pages for just 8000 words.
Thx for the story anyway

Dan:

Sooks...

Users click all day to follow links across the breadth of the net to get the 'full story'.

I cannot believe you have even made an issue out of it!

Stop wasting space!

talk2sk:

If you were using firefox then you would just open them all up in tabs with a CTRL+Click and then read them at leisure.. as if you were turning pages on a book [you can do that can't you ?]

Print Design Advertising:

Hey - some of us do not have time to sit at our desk's reading articles. If I find something interesting, I either copy and paste the text to a .txt file and print from there. Either that, I just print the HTML page. Once done, I take and read on the train. Having to do this 12 x times is not fun and TBH, 99% of the time, I choose not to read / print the article.

Boo to 12 different links!

raindog:

Yeah lets waste god knows how much fossil fuel printing something so you can be comfortable on a train and can then trash those 12 pages. If you dont have the work time to read the article then read it at home, simple really even an advertising type could catch on when they took the time out to think about it.

developerx:

Great article, and worth all the clicking ;)
An audio version would have been great and appreciated as well.
It is not about "Clicking is cumbersome, so have an audio version", but rather having audio versions would be a great way of offering your article guys. I think many would welcome the idea of having audio version of article.

your friendly reader/listener :)

Anonymous Cow:

"To make it easier to navigate" yeah right! You just want more ad imprints.

I refuse to read your damned article.

raindog:

Just do it quietly !

Anonymouse:

Looks like they have the one pager view, else Id' be in the same boat.

Ric:

I have limited bandwidth, a link to load the entire interview should have been included. Even without my bandwidth problem I almost never click on multi-link pages - There should always be an option for all the info on one page.

APC administrator:

it is now -- see above under "addendum".

FF_User:

Great read. Especially the parts about Microsoft and Linux running like XP. I wonder what the figures would look like on Thunderbird, because it is easy to see how a web browser makes is revenue (through search engines), but how does Thunderbird make money, or is it even aimed at making money?

It was pretty clear she was very defensive over Firefox and opensource, when she didn't say much about the Linux/XP shamble, and "laughing" at the bloke who didn't have Firefox on his laptop.

Great stuff, APC. Thanks alot.

bob h:

This CEO is bragging about how she built a business out
of a product that is free. Customers choose to pay or not.

When i read about an executive bragging about her
revenue growth on a product that i can choose to
donate to or not, it makes me swear to never pay
them any money, cuz i know she's just getting rich off it.
Doesn't she realize she is sending a message to
her 'customers' when she talks like this?

Dan Warne:

But you don't pay to use Firefox -- what Baker was saying was that she's found a way of funding the very large effort that goes into the quality assurance side of Firefox etc, using a completely non-intrusive way of earning money. Plus, I asked her the question... it's not like she just started bragging about it. 

Basdger Linux:

Unfortunately in life most people are self motivated and not altruisitic.
It all comes down to what the average person or the community gets out of the process. Is there a benefit somewhere down the line.
Firefox is both used as a product and forced the market leader, Microsoft, to introduce features into its product that it had no intention of doing.
As a result the average computer user and the community is better off.
If Michelle Baker can make some income in the process good for her. It is not Worldcomm where a bunch of people lived high on the hog on the backs of others leaving a wasteland in the process ( and no guilt on their part for all the lives they ruined and damage they did to others
whether they be employees or shareholders)
Everyone in Russia had a job - but no one could eat.

Dan Warne:

Yep - and don't forget, Mitchell Baker doesn't get this money, it goes to the Mozilla Foundation, which is a not-for-profit organisation that puts the money back into projects that develop Firefox further...

Doc:

Ubuntu Linux sed:
"Unfortunately in life most people are self motivated and not altruisitic [sec]"

Why do you think that is 'unfortunate?'
It is natural and normal, and because I work toward my best interests, I do my best to please you so that you will do business with me. This profits you.

Cubert:

I want to know when Mozilla will make Firefox 2 work well with Mac OS X like 1.5 did!

Diego:

make it less resource hog and optimize the thing on non windows systems (Linux, Mac, etc)

Optimus Prime:

Power to Firefox!! Long live Firefox and down with IE!!!

martyfmelb:

To Ms Baker's Photoshop expert,

Try this procedure for your next lens blur:

1) Put image to 16-bit colour
2) Image -> Adjustment -> Exposure
-> GAMMA = .4545
3) Lens Blur
4) Image -> Adjustment -> Exposure
-> GAMMA = 2.2
5) Put image back to 8-bit colour

Photoshop's Lens Blur doesn't account for gamma (in fact most of Photoshop is very bad at gamma-corrected image manipulations... try shrinking a flattened image with thin text in it... ugly eh :) ).

Happy focusing,
Marty.

feliduca (User):

nteresting developments in the browser world lately. Between the new beta of IE8 and Google releasing the beta of their new browser (called “Chrome”), not to mention interesting work by the Mozilla team here as well, there’s as much happening as I can ever remember.

Let’s start from there: more smart people thinking about ways to make the Web good for normal human beings is good, absolutely. Competition often results in innovation of one sort or another — in the browser you can see that this is true in spades this year, with huge Javascript performance increases, security process advances, and user interface breakthroughs. I’d expect that to continue now that Google has thrown their hat in the ring.

It should come as no real surprise that Google has done something here — their business is the web, and they’ve got clear opinions on how things should be, and smart people thinking about how to make things better. Chrome will be a browser optimized for the things that they see as important, and it’ll be interesting to see how it evolves.

Having said that, it’s worth addressing a couple of questions that folks will no doubt have.

1. How does this affect Mozilla? As much as anything else, it’ll mean there’s another interesting browser that users can choose. With IE, Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc — there’s been competition for a while now, and this increases that. So it means that more than ever, we need to build software that people care about and love. Firefox is good now, and will keep on getting better.

2. What does this mean for Mozilla’s relationship with Google? Mozilla and Google have always been different organizations, with different missions, reasons for existing, and ways of doing things. I think both organizations have done much over the last few years to improve and open the Web, and we’ve had very good collaborations that include the technical, product, and financial. On the technical side of things, we’ve collaborated most recently on Breakpad, the system we use for crash reports — stuff like that will continue. On the product front, we’ve worked with them to implement best-in-class anti-phishing and anti-malware that we’ve built into Firefox, and looks like they’re building into Chrome. On the financial front, as has been reported lately, we’ve just renewed our economic arrangement with them through November 2011, which means a lot for our ability to continue to invest in Firefox and in new things like mobile and services.

So all those aligned efforts should continue. And similarly, the parts where we’re different, with different missions, will continue to be separate. Mozilla’s mission is to keep the Web open and participatory — so, uniquely in this market, we’re a public-benefit, non-profit group (Mozilla Corporation is wholly owned by the Mozilla Foundation) with no other agenda or profit motive at all. We’ll continue to be that way, we’ll continue to develop our products & technology in an open, community-based, collaborative way.

With that backdrop, it’ll be interesting to see what happens over the coming months and years. I personally think Firefox 3 is an incredibly great browser — the best anywhere — and we’re seeing millions of people start using it every month. It’s based on technology that shows incredible compatibility across the broad web — technology that’s been tweaked and improved over a period of years.

And we’ve got a truckload of great stuff queued up for Firefox 3.1 and beyond — things like open video and an amazing next-generation Javascript engine (TraceMonkey) for 3.1, to name a couple. And beyond that, lots of breakthroughs like Weave, Ubiquity, and Firefox Mobile. And even more that are unpredictable — the strength of Mozilla has always come from the community that’s built it, from core code to the thousands of extensions that are available for Firefox.

So even in a more competitive environment than ever, I’m very optimistic about the future of Mozilla and the future of the open Web.





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