New combined 3G/ADSL2+ broadband service

Anthony Caruana
24 February 2009, 1:22 PM


A new broadband plan is offering a 3G and ADSL2+ allowance for one fixed monthly price, and will also offer a novel "reserve tank" of gigabytes.


If you travel regularly for work or study, you'll probably have considered getting a mobile internet connection. However, that extra monthly cost hurts on top of the existing home ADSL2+ or cable internet connection, home phone and mobile phone bills.

To date, telcos haven't been willing to offer a 3G broadband service as part of the same plan as the home broadband, instead trying to extract a separate hunk of cash for the 'additional' 3G service -- even though ISPs have been offering free dialup with broadband accounts for years.

Brisbane based telco Gotalk plans to turn that on its head. Rather than forcing customers to take multiple products with different service contracts, Gotalk will be offering customers the opportunity to purchase an internet contract wth a data allowance that can be used with a USB dongle and ADSL service.

Of course, being a telco product, it's not quite as simple as we'd like. GoTalk Group Manager Pauline Sabin describes the slightly convoluted way it will work:

Customers will be able to buy a fixed amount of bandwidth — let's say it's a 10GB bucket. When customers are using their allowance at home over ADSL the 10GB bucket will empty at a particular rate. When they're on 3G with a notebook, the 10GB bucket will empty faster.

The reason the 3G data isn't a 1:1 usage ratio is because Gotalk is on-selling the 3G service from a telco, and it costs more to provide than the ADSL data.

Steve Picton, the CEO of Gotalk, explained "It's really differential rating. The trick is to make the service available anywhere at any time on any device. It's convenience that people are fundamentally driven to. It gives customers the choice on how to use their overall allowance".

Gotalk's Sabin also told APC about a new service for all existing customers at no extra cost -- a "reserve tank" of gigs that lets people keep downloading at full speed when they'd otherwise have been slowed to dialup speed for exceeding their allowance.

Sabin said she had the idea after listening to a friend complain about how her children ran the monthly download allowance down every month, leaving the net connection running at a snail's pace for mum and dad. Thus the "reserve tank" idea was born.

A fixed portion of the monthly allowance, planned to be 20%, will be set aside and can only be unlocked by the account holder. Ms Sabin says that Gotalk is looking at offering options to un-shape the account for "30 minutes, 24 hours or some other options". That 20% would be "ring-fenced" she says. Mr Picton likened it to "the reserve tank of a four-wheel drive. The fuel gauge may say empty but you know that there's still some more fuel there". This won't be an extra service — it will be made part of Gotalk's standard product offering at no extra cost.

Internode floated this idea some time back but it wasn't popular with customers, who felt that getting access to their full allowance might inconvenience them. GoTalk's different target market and approach of providing more flexibility on how the additional allowance is used may make the difference.

If the monthly allowance, even after using the "reserve tank" still isn't enough, customers will be able top up their monthly allowance by purchasing one-off blocks of data to get them through to the end of the billing period. Gotalk told APC that the extra data blocks would be reasonably priced rather than costing the extortionate amounts used for 'excess data' by some telcos and ISPs.

Gotalk is also now reselling Telstra ADSL2+, giving access for 90% of Australians to Gotalk ADSL2+ services. Picton says "The combination of the quality and reach of the Telstra broadband network and Gotalk's innovation and low cost delivery offers the very best consumer proposition to the widest possible audience".

In other words, the "reserve tank" and combined mobile and fixed internet access isn't just for folks in the big cities — it will be widely available -- though at a cost. He expands to say that "the only real competitor in many areas will be Bigpond" (though we should add: or other ISPs reselling Telstra). Plans will start at $40 per month for 10GB with more plans to be announced at Gotalk's site on 2 March 2009.

All of these services -- the "reserve tank", combined mobile and fixed internet access and the ability to purchase extra data blocks, and new network QoS for Gotalk's VoIP service, will be built into plans without customers having to choose one option or the other.

Gotalk also revealed that although their call centre is based in the Philippines, it is wholly owned by Gotalk and not a separately owned outsourced service provider. It also said that for those concerned with using a smaller service provider, Gotalk has three times as much cash than debt and has been profitable for the last four years.


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Tin (User):

When is 1GB not 1GB? Well when it's going over a 3G service apparently...
How bizarre is that going to be to explain to customers?

24 February 2009, 2:26 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Neiger (APC staff):

No more ridiculous than the idea of caps where $300 of value gives you different value to someone else's estimate of value. As long as the usage factor is explained well I don't see the problem.

24 February 2009, 2:58 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

It's a pain to compare with other plans though. And unless it's a simple factor like 2:1, it'll be difficult to mentally estimate actual rates as you use it.

24 February 2009, 3:22 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (New user):

I love it! It seems like a great idea. I can only see it as a cheaper way to offer 3G to consumers. They wouldn't bother with this if they were trying to make it more expensive.

Why oh why can we not just have internet access similar to the US? It'd be nice if the game was about what and why we're downloading, not about quantities of data or at what cost. The online services market just won't be what it can with all these internet download fees.They're as bad to online distribution as tariffs or import duties are to international trade.

24 February 2009, 4:00 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

I like the concept of a bundled offering, particularly if it can help reduce the base cost of running two access plans.

I don't have any problem with the concept that data accessed via wireless will chew up quota far more quickly than via direct means.

I do wonder however just how much can be saved given the infrastructures for provision of each service are totally different. Still any worthwhile cost reductions could see this as a winner.


As for the problems of children, and exceeding data caps I can offer some solutions, although most contravene the Geneva convention.
Put simply if the broadband is throttled then some basic home throttling could well prevent further incidents.

24 February 2009, 4:55 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

shrike (New user):

If it costs them more to provide 3G then I see no problem with it using the allowance quicker, as long as this is explained to the customer and is a simple ratio as Tin mentioned. It's a step in the right direction that the big players could learn from.

24 February 2009, 7:46 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting shrike:
If it costs them more to provide 3G then

Well actually it cost less to provision wireless. But wireless systems are currently offering more and better opportunities for Telcos to gouge the consumer dollar.


Quoting shrike:
as long as this is explained to the customer and is a simple ratio

Some quota free online metering would go a long way towards customer satisfaction.


24 February 2009, 8:01 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Michael J (User):

the 3G catch is pretty dodgy!!!

26 February 2009, 1:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anthony Caruana (APC staff):

Thanks to everyone for the comments.

When I wrote this story I was curious as to what the world would think of such a plan. I reckon if gotalk sold it as a $60 Internet plan that gives (these are just made up numbers for the purpose of illustration) up to either10GB of ADSL or 3GB of 3G with regular (weekly? daily?) email then I don; think it would be that confusing.

Not that I'm promoting gotalk or anything - I've never used any of their services. I'm just wondering how the plan could be made easier to understand.

28 February 2009, 5:37 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dodgy (New user):

where is the details on the gotalk website? what is the actual plan called? i cannot see it on their site? it is convenient how Companies like APC write these articles and link to just the Companies homepage and no real detail to locate the plan?

09 March 2009, 9:48 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Dodgy:
where is the details on the gotalk website?

Have you asked GoTalk?


Quoting Dodgy:
what is the actual plan called?

Have you asked GoTalk?


Quoting Dodgy:
i cannot see it on their site?

Have you asked GoTalk or made any attempt to contact them with your enquiry?


Quoting Dodgy:
it is convenient how Companies like APC write these articles and link to just the Companies homepage and no real detail to locate the plan?

Yes it is convenient that AC has compiled information and presented it in a readable manner, possibly from media releases from the companies concerned.
If the Web address provided is the top level address for the company concerned then that is more than likely the only web address provided.

Conspiracy theories aside, these articles are presented for information and discussion, not to save you a penny.

I'll repeat again if you are interested in the product, why haven't you contacted GoTalk?

You could even post a follow up reply with what you find.


09 March 2009, 10:12 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chief Information Officer (New user):

I don't see why 3G data should cost any more than ADSL data.

With 3G, the telco does not have to bury cables down every street in the city, and every home in the street. It's easier to create a 3G wireless network than an ADSL network.

18 July 2010, 11:16 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Chief Information Officer:
I don't see why 3G data should cost any more than ADSL data.

but of course government has found it can charge exorbitant sums for spectrum licences. A lot of what you pay for 3G is repaying those costs.


18 July 2010, 11:24 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting Chief Information Officer:
With 3G, the telco does not have to bury cables down every street


In true CIO fashion, CIO has no idea about things work.

18 July 2010, 11:51 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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