Office 2008 for Mac hits beta: lush ‘Escher’ graphics engine revealed

David Flynn
30 March 2007, 12:50 AM


Microsoft's forthcoming Mac supersuite has stepped into the beta stage with a streamlined interface and an all-new graphics engine to deliver lush graphic effects and impressive charting.


Office 2008 for Mac has gingerly stepped out of the alpha phase of its development as Microsoft works towards a late 2007 release of its overhauled Macintosh suite.

"We're in private betas right now" confirmed Sheridan Jones, Lead Marketing Manager for Microsoft's Mac Business Unit (MacBU), during an exclusive interview with APC magazine.

While Jones was unable to speculate on the timetable for any public beta or the targets for RTM (release to manufacture), a demo of an alpha build showed the revised user interface is moving in a very appealing and Mac-like direction.

It's a move sure to please the thousands of Office for Mac users who became nervous after APC reported last year that the suite's UI would be overhauled and borrow ideas from the work done in Office 2007 for Windows, which saw the menus and toolbars replaced with a single ‘ribbon'.

At that time the Mac developers had already had one radical redesign tested and rejected after user feedback, said MacBU group product manager Mary Starman.

"We had what we thought was going to be this perfect UI solution, and the first time we put it in the labs, no-one understood it! It was so different they were completely confused!"

Happily, the latest version of the UI is heading in a much better direction. Our peek at the alpha build, which Jones cautioned was still in the very earliest of stages of both the UI and backend development, showed hints of a streamlined look with a modern black sheen, at times similar to the elements in recent Apple applications such as iTunes 7 and iLife 06. Rest easy, Mac-fans -- this is not Office for Windows.

While the Office 2008 UI retains the traditional menus and toolbars, the philosophy behind the Office 2007 for Windows ribbon and general interfacelift has been applied -- to expose more of the features buried several clicks deep, and make them more visual to browse and apply.

It's sorta kinda ribbonish: these early models of the revised UI in Word (above) and Excel (below) show how some elements of Office 2007's contextual tabbed ribbon have eben applied to Office 2008's visual 'gallery'It's sorta kinda ribbonish: these early models of the revised UI in Word (above) and Excel (below) show how some elements of Office 2007's contextual tabbed ribbon have eben applied to Office 2008's visual 'gallery'


"Part of our mission with Office 2008 is to expose all the things that are already there and make the product easier to use" says Jones. "We wanted to make it more discoverable, to bubble up the features that people didn't always find. We also have an opportunity to have a simple UI and a more intuitive interface.

"We got a lot of customer feedback (on the UI), we've kept the menus and embedded toolbars, but I can hide rid of embedded toolbars to have a really streamlined interface."

Parts of the redesign are peeking through almost every application, as well as application modules such as the notebook view in Word, and Jones promises that there's plenty to share in the months ahead.

While there's no Office 2007 ribbon in sight, one inheritance from its Windows counterpart is the ‘Escher' graphics engine which is responsible for Office 2007's dramatically improved art and charting capabilities.

All of the Office 2008 for Mac applications, most noticeably Word and PowerPoint, can conjure graphics with elegant visuals such as 3D effects, mirroring, glass effects, glows and shadows. Married to the new SmartArt diagramming tools for illustrating concepts such as processes, relationships and cycles, it puts plenty of ‘wow' factor at your fingertips.

Artful charts: Office 2008 gets impressive graphics and charting courtesy of the 'Escher' graphics engine developed for Office 2007 for WindowsArtful charts: Office 2008 gets impressive graphics and charting courtesy of the 'Escher' graphics engine developed for Office 2007 for Windows
There's little doubt that the high degree of polish available in PowerPoint 2007 has been influenced (for the better) by Apple's elegant Keynote presentation package, which made an impressive debut mere months before PowerPoint 2004 was released, and has enjoyed two revisions since then.

Some of the most impressive touches are Mac-only treats like Word's Publishing Layout View with its DTP-style page layout capabilities. Images can be dragged out of iPhoto and placed directly onto the page with automatic text run-around, while excess copy on any page is automatically spilled into a linked text box that can be drawn elsewhere on that page or on the next page.

The floating Inspector pane combines Word's formatting pallete and toolbox into a single pane which appears and vanishes with a Dock-like ‘Genie effect'.

Other parts of Word 2008 for Mac are borrowed from Word 2007 for Windows, such as ‘document parts', which enable you to build documents by dragging and dropping elements such as headers, footers and cover pages into your existing document.

Excel 2008's Ledger Sheets are like smart workbooks with pre-set financial formulae tied to formatted cell groups which use context to recognise the type of data being entered. "This is for those people who want to do financial management tasks like a cheque register or issuing invoices or managing a portfolio, but are intimated by formulae" explains Jones.

"If you're not an Excel guru and you don't want to become an Excel guru, the thing that stops you is having to deal with formulae. These Ledger Sheets have the formula already in there, so they recognise debit and credit as soon as you start typing, and even the design of the sheet is very much the experience of having a cheque register".

New to the Office 2008 for Mac mix is MyDay, a small stand-alone app which works like a portal into Entourage's appointments and tasks. Users can create and manage those items in the MyDay window, which sits on the desktop but can be hidden and revealed using the Ctrl+spacebar key combo.

MyDay: See and manage your diary and to-do list without getting mired down in emails and your inboxMyDay: See and manage your diary and to-do list without getting mired down in emails and your inbox

One part of Entourage that isn't piped onto the MyDay window, at least not right now, is email. Even if this is offered as an option, it will almost certainly be turned off by default. "I think that the point is to not let you get pulled into your inbox" Jones says. "What happens today is that when you go into Entourage to look at your calendar or check off a task, you just fall into your email and spend the next hour there. This is about giving people an alternative view to the information that is more important to them, so they can stay on task without falling into their inbox".

David Flynn met with the MacBU team during a visit to Microsoft's US campus as a guest of Microsoft Australia.


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james:

It would be nice if entourage was as good with exchange as outlook is for the PC, currently it is about as good as the web interface is for PC office

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Joe:

Amen.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Warp:

Double Amen

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

pooh:

So say we all

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JJJ:

Triple Amen! And on behalf of my colleagues: Quadruple Amen!

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dru:

You said it! Quintuple amen.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bearxor:

So say we all!

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

derris:

hell yea, i wouldn't care if nothing else changed except full exchange support. I run parallels just to run outlook ...

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MacFan:

Get Google Apps for your Domain and ditch the Microsoft flakiness altogether. (c:

http://www.google.com/a/

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

kirby:

Get real.

Google is a joke. Google apps are not ready for the enterprise. Some of us still need to "work" offline.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

xxdesmus:

I'll second the above comment. Google apps are a joke. Any corporation that thinks they can move to these full time will be in for a very big surprise. I think I'd actually pay to watch that fiasco play out.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mike:

Entourage has wiped out my boss's email so many times I'm ready to drive over to the MBU and demand an explanation. If it connects over a flaky network while he is on the road, it will just start deleting emails on his laptop and on the server - complete insanity! MS should be ashamed.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Michael:

Yes, please!

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jon Smith:

So it does so long it's not the Standard /Teacher Edition.
www.macoffice 2008.com



29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Thomas:

Hello,

Offcie Integration with MS Sharepoint is a major point in the new Offcie and Sharepoint release for Windows. there is nothing of that on the Macintosh side, making Office 2008 lack a lot of functionality that is expected in Enterprises.

Or has anyone any other info on this ?

Thomas

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Alexandra:

I realize that a lot of companies will start using Sharepoint just because it sits there on the Windows Server. However, as for some other products from Microsoft this is clearly not the best alternative out there. To me it would be so much better if better integration with MS Office for Mac was made to a REAL content management system like EMC Documentum, OpenText or the new open sourced Alfresco (which even runs on Mac OS X Server). The Mac world really needs a good server product with excellent Mac OS X client integration in the ECM (Enterprise Content Management) area. That way all the Macshops could began con consolidate all their content disrespective if it is Office docs, PDFs, images or video files.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jordan Orlando:

It seems like it's just as bad as the one in Office 04.

Adobe makes a mockery of Microsoft's text editing tools. The "Character"/"Paragraph" palettes in Adobe Illustrator do every conceivable type-related task (including kerning and super/sub-script) in a postage-stamp-sized square.

Microsoft's version only replaces some of the controls from the formatting toolbar and forces you to go get the "Character Format" dialog box to do anything that's even slightly complicated.

And to hell with the "Genie effect." Is that supposed to impress me?

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Flynn:

It probably is almost exactly the same as the one from Office 2004, Jordan, because those screenshots are based on one of the very early alphas (no beta screenshots allowed yet), and they had pretty much the same basic UI as Office 2004 but for a few 'showcase' elements like the Gallery.The product has just hit beta, there's as much work going on above the surface as below (especially now that the re-coding as a Universal Binary has been done) and it's probably six months out from RTM. I'd wait until we can see more of (and show you more of) the beta.


29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bill Gates:

Entourage will NEVER work as well with exchange as Windows! If it did why would anyone put up with Windows? Microsoft will always retain this club to threaten Apple with it's just in Microsoft's nature to always stay in a position to extort. Consult the Mafia Handbook for Microsoft's corporate policies.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sdvsdv:

Exchange on outlook uses the RPC protocol which is only available on windows so you can't sync Entourage to Exchange like Outlook.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sdr:

You don't have that quite right. The exchange RPC protocol runs over TCP/IP. The only reason it's not available on a mac is because Microsoft hasn't implemented it.

Microsoft shipped a freely available full exchange client (back when the client was called 'exchange') for mac OS 8/9. You can still run it under classic.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous5264:

Well if Microsoft never stole the orginal idea back in 70's today Apple would the choice of the Enterprise, we would not have all these issues running Windows effectively. I guess that what you get when you can think of something on your own.

Apple Lover

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

atze:

Please make it use Cocoa this time. So that it fits into Mac OS X and does not feel like an alien.


29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Madd the Sane:

I think Cocoa is language specific, i.e. is only available for Objective-C. Carbon, on the other hand, uses C++, which is most likely what the developers originally used to program Office. However, the features that are built-in in Cocoa can be built into Carbon apps. It's just more tricky.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

seis:

You need to read the developer docs on Cocoa. Quite a few devs use C++ with Cocoa and it works quite nicely.

Just get the facts straight.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dirk W. Breuer:

I hope that Microsoft fixes the bug. You cant calculate the natural logarithm with "=ln()" because it is defective. It is defective now, it was in Office 2001 ill, and also before- and the Microsoft-Support know it!

The give the "solution" to use the funktion ze(). Nine years with such a big bug, its unbeliveable... :-(

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

James Welborn:

Why does an office productivity suite need its own graphics engine? Couldn't they have spent the time just making the program more compatible and usable?

Ugh.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

IceCube:

... why in the name of god do they remove all the VBA stuff out of Office 2008 Mac? Do they want to grave dig it after this (last) release?


So you have the choice: use
  • a) no MS-Office Mac (bertter switch to OO) or
  • b) use the full load of the GATES' OS stuff incl. MSO.

But I need Excel AND VBA and we use macs and will never switch to PeeCee for regular work.


So please MS, reimplement VBA into Office 2008 Mac (hint: recompile for Intel or better use XCode - I won't tell anybody :)
But I think I have to by a license of the bigges virus for a usualy virus free (eccept MSO) enviroment - WXP.


29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Madd the Sane:

That's currently the problem. VBA for Mac was written with CodeWarrior. They are switching over to XCode to support Intel processors.

I think I remember reading somewhere that they used compiler language to make it or implement some of their stuff. However, CodeWarrior's compiler language is different than GCC, which is what XCode uses.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

IceCube:

I never looked inside MSO-Mac this deep to see that it was made with CodeWarrior but as you say this - now I know since CW Studio (Mac) is now from freescale (was product of MetroWerks) and they build - yes PPC and PPC based embedded processors.
This also may be the reason why VBA on PPC always was only 1/10 to 1/5 as fast as VBA in Win applications. (benchmarked on G3 400, G4 1GHz, G5 2GHz and comparably IntelPCs at their time).

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Mark Goldschmidt:

So tell me.. I have macros that I wrote in 4.0 Macro language long ago, macros that were written in VBA, and macros that are acutally interlinked macros using both languages. Will NONE of these work? Is there going to be ANY macro capability in Office 2008?

If not, who needs it? I can go to one of the free office alternatives if Microsoft is abandoning this aspect of functionality completely.

What is the story with this?

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Mitch:

For many users (including many of my clients), Office has been declared a dead product because Microsoft is removing VBA. Yes, cross-platform macro scripting is gone as of Office 2008.

The whole "It was written in CodeWarrior" excuse is baloney. If Microsloth thought it was important, they'd get it done. What's more important to them is to stop the bleeding from Windows to OS X.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

xenedar:

Thankyou Apple, for giving Mac OS X a persistent menubar. Unless they want to go into a weird full-screen, game or floaty mode, the Mac version of Office won't be able to be developed into the horrible, unusable mash that the Windows version is, with the menus missing/hidden and all the UI rules broken, because that menubar won't go away easily.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John McIntosh:

I use Word a lot to edit text files. I would really like to see an option on the find and replace block to make it search the whole document. You should also provide an option making this the deafult. This would eliminate the irritating menus asking you if you want search from the top of the document. They slow me down greatly.

There are many related tasks in Excel. Could you add a few extensions to mid and find? One example would be a moveafter that lets one move everything after given text.

I'd be happy to provide many more examples if you wanted them.



29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Plus Whiteboards:

I find it interesting that the article talks about how they are trying to separate it from office 07 for Windows. I'm a Mac user and recently started using office 07....I like it much better than the current layout for the Mac office. If is tremendously more intuitive and easier to navigate. I'm a little worried that they won't get enough of this in there just to please the people who don't want to change.
Paper shredders

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nue2me:

I'm with Whiteboards
I think the new office 07 is getting better and is definitely better than Office Mac 04. I am looking forward to some of the organizational features and optional views offered in office 07. Office 04 Mac is missing many features that pc has had since the last release of office 2003!

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

cwgmpls:

We're talking about Mac OS X office suites here. How do you run Office 07 in OS X?

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Christian:

Does anyone know if the product is still going to be out later this year?

There is almost no news available as far as microsoft products for a MAC.

Microsoft should get cleverer and star using recent Mac increase in market to sell its own produtcs on the competition as well.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Flynn:

Chris: based on the most recent status of the project I'm actually estimating early 2008 for Office 2008. They might be able to do 'code complete' by the end of this year, just so they can claim they delivered in 2007, but as well all know that'd be a bit of a cheat because the product wouldn't actually be available in stores until 4-6 weeks after that. My reckoning is that if we don't see Office 2008 finished in Oct in time for Christmas sales (and I cannot believe  that's gonna happen), then we won't see it until Jan (probably a demo at MacWorld) and on the street by Feb. 



29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

Surely Office would be a most unlikely Christmas gift, so I can't imagine Microsoft would care that much about the Christmas sales season?

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

cwgmpls:

People buy new computers for Christmas. And when they buy new computers they often buy new software. Christmas is a great time to do a software roll-out.

29 February 2008, 8:46 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

kurt:

I can't believe someone chose to reexamine program design and truly reinvented the architecture. I hope they did. Maybe I'll even be able to click print to print, rather than 'ok'.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymouso:

This beta was the worst idea of my life!!! Okay.... lets say Im in a meeting taking notes with my laptop, you don't think to save every ten seconds... poof, it quits on you. and Im sure once its out of beta it'll be fine, but as of now... GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousooooo:

very interesting as the beta is totally not available outside msft so stop telling bullshit. it cant quit on your laptop as yuo dont have the beta

29 February 2008, 8:48 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Weqsla:

Are you stupid or something? Download it if you like.

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