PhysX tries on PCI-Express, arouses nVIDIA

Nathan Davis
16 October 2006, 3:29 AM


AGEIA is launching its PhysX card into the present with a PCI-Express incarnation. Will this be enough to drive up its popularity? Plus, nVIDIA was caught with its pants down, cheating on Havok.


ageia_physx_logo.pngAGEIA has announced that a PCI-Express version of its niche PhysX physics accelerator card will soon be available.

Apparently the bandwidth offered by the 32-bit PCI interface is sufficient for incoming and outgoing physics data, so this newer form is said to be no faster.

Merely an interface change, this is most likely a move to increase the popularity surrounding the fairly exotic physics processor. With few new PCs actually being equipped with many, if any, PCI slots, this stands to make sense.

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No mention was made of whether these will be available as individual add-in cards, with the press release stating "PCI-Express cards will be available integrated into new gaming PCs in time for Christmas [from] leading OEM system manufacturers."

However, I don't believe this is enough to pick up steam and sell sufficiently more. Just as I've previously mentioned regarding an AI processor, the need for a dedicated physics processor is equally dubious.

With multi-cored CPUs coming into general use and game developers reportedly saying that any more than two cores is too many, the question of why one would need such a processor lingers.

Did you hear that? It was the sound of familiarity wooshing by.

Interestingly, nVIDIA's hands were caught vigorously fondling around in AGEIA's PhysX pants recently at Digital Life 2006 in New York. Whether this was a PCI or PCI-Express card remains unknown.

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Perhaps nVIDIA's implementation of Havok's physics just isn't ready for prime time.

Does this mean nVIDIA will skip to third base and slap an AGEIA processor in all of its high-end graphics cards? Unlikely, but not impossible.

Whether AGEIA can successfully push a dedicated physics card to the point of common use remains to be seen.

A larger line-up of supported and available mainstream games certainly wouldn't go astray.


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Tin:

For some things a dedicated physics processor makes sense... Anyone who's played arround with Gary's Mod for HL2 knows how the physics side of things can slow everything down.
But since HL2 isn't using this, it's not going to help.

For any of these cards to catch on, a standard API will be needed. I for one will not buy one until multiple vendors have agreed on some kind of compatibility.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anon E Mous:

Plenty of existing XP PCs have PCI slots. Not every computer comes PCI-X ready.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Guy:

I'm not a gamer, but the sooner PCs phase out PCI and IDE/ATA, the better. These older technologies are holding back progress and cluttering motherboards unnecessarily.

gL

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin:

"Plenty of existing XP PCs have PCI slots. Not every computer comes PCI-X ready."

Umm, what gamer wanting a physics card is going to still be using an old PCI/AGP board?

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Lachlan Maslen:

On the topic of physics cards, why would Nvidia even consider putting another pysics processor t\into one of their newer graphics cards anyway. Besides that we are still waiting for Nvidias 8x PCI Express pysics cards to accompany its nForce 590i - 680i chipset. Once they get that under thier belt, and have a mess around with some fun driver software, then and only then we there even be a possibility for integration.

Vocal-Image

29 February 2008, 8:33 PM (3 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jereth:

to be honest and i work as a comp technician

pci is phasin out most new boards ive seen ship with 1
with onboard giga lan 8 chanal audio and everyting else expansion slots are going to be for high enda cards and exotic peripherals ie additional processors

2x slid gpus is well and good i have them myself but i feel we should be aplauding new advances however niche games for ageia will be made as more have it
also no matter how good a gpu is exactly that a gpu it handles geometry and textures + poor lighting a ppu is a good idea if a little a head of its time
as for multiple cores i run 2 an x2 5600

windows vista will happily eat justabout eveything but wont touch a ppu so use it buy it and lets get some support for them going

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