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		<title>APC - User - Me In Oz</title>
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		<description>APC Magazine covers the latest in computing with a critical, independent eye to help you make the most of your tech dollar.</description>
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			<title>Vista SP1 - initial thoughts?</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=65</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[Marked improvement in file transfers/handling (specially between Ext. HD and DVD)
Have noticed no impact on gaming needs (I'm a big gamer).
15-20 minutes to install SP1.
No drivers needed re-install.
All in all, painless and usefull ............ Highly recommended !

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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:01:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Virus Checkers for Vista?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Avast Free !
Have never had problems and pretty small footprint !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:03:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The GOOD aspects of Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's been all good since Feb 2007 !
SP1 has made it even better !
Media Center is great, Media handling is great, Stability is great.
And with Hardware so cheap these days I run the eye candy on full blast !
Older games I dual boot into XP SP2 (FAT32).]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 09:05:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Does SP1 really take two hours?</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=132</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[25 minute upgrade !
Definitely a must for Vista fanboys (Me)  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 09:08:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>XP SP3 has been released</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[So what extra benefit does it have ?
I have XP Pro SP2 with current updates and have installed SP3 with absolutely no tangible changes noticed ?? ........ For some strange reason I had to re-install my wifi card drivers !
Other than this nothing has changed !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Computer crashing</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1335</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[We had a bad run on one of our pc builds and it turned out to be cheap RAM.
Use the known brands like Kingston, OCZ, Corsair etc.
Good luck]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 15:07:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Microsoft's Free Windows 7 Upgrade offer</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1420</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Yes i agree totally as a person who could but refuses to own a credit card,its getting to the stage where its almost impossible to do anything without one. [/quote]

The major credit card companies offer 'debit' cards now that act just like credit cards. If you are scared of overspending on credit then just use these cards that draw on your money.


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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:22:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>windows 7......yay?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]Most of us got to pay for an abysmal OS called Vista[/quote]

No! Most of us didn't have to!

[quote=petert]and now we get to pay even more for its replacement.[/quote]

Again, No, we don't have to!

[quote=petert]Yes, every bit of sarcasm is intended! [/quote]

Let's keep it in the spirit of the OP, shall we?
If you want a "I hate MS" thread and want the usual crowd to contribute, then start your own.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:51:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>windows 7......yay?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Win 7 ....... Yay?

Yes! Well for me at least.

I've had the RC running now for a couple of months and have found things slicker and more stable with my GPU (AMD 4870 in Crossfire). Which is a little surprising considering I'm running most of the drivers that were coded for Vista.

Apps and gaming is rock solid. Gaming performance at the moment is not as good as MS would have us believe but it is marginally better and with the OEM drivers jumping on board early this time, the drivers will hopefully match the retail release of W7.

And yes, I will upgrade because gaming and entertainment being a large percentage of my pc usage, there is no other choices.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:01:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Thankyou APC!</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1521</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[And thanks for an objective review giving Win7 a 9/10.

I got my 'evaluation' ultimate copy for free at work  :)
(I hope the boss doesn't consider this a Christmas Bonus)

Clean installed in less then 30 minutes even with driver updates.

In your competition's magazine (PC User) it actually benchmarked better than a couple of Linux distros.

Looks like Linux world domination will just have to wait a little longer  ;-)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:50:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC March 09: Win 7 to kill Vista</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1078</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[Running the beta in VMWare and apart from the eye candy, I can't see much in operational improvements.

I will get it, of course, because I'm a Windows Gaming Whore  ;)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:52:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Black screen on power up!!!!!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've seen cheap motherboards create these sorts of gremlins in the past.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:40:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Black screen on power up!!!!!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=ss-rotel]I spent a weekend trying to get a machine i've been slowly collecting parts for, for my dad[/quote]

Isn't that always the case!
Whether it's IT or auto repairs or accounting or ................... whatever.
You can have a success rate of 100%, but as soon as family or friends asks you for a favour, the project inevitably ends up going South!

Good luck to the OP

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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:30:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>CPU and Graphics card question</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=sjaeger172004]And I would rather go to hell then get Vista[/quote]

That's really a shame because there are outstanding DX10 games out there and more to be released. Here are just a few you are going to miss out on because you detest Vista so much !
Fallout 3, Farcry 2, Clear Sky, Halo 3, Call of Juarez, Crysis, Warhead. Some of these can be played with DX9 patches and there are 'dark' versions of DX10 for XP. 'Dark' DX10 is unstable at best, and unusable at worst. And what's the point in buying a DX10 game and playing it on DX9 ?

Love it or hate it, Vista has no peers if you want gaming eye-candy and online play !

And listen to YAJ when it concerns hardware. He sells enough of the stuff to retail outlets to know what is good and what is a waste of money !

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			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:16:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Video cards performances vs makers/brand</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why would you have a 9800GX2 in an Apple ?
I don't think there are games out there for Mac that would need this much grunt !
I know Myth doesn't .....................................  LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:30:35 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The C64 was the Mac of its day</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=451</link>
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			<description><![CDATA["PROPRIETARY" Hardware and software from Commodore and Apple are what gave Bill and his cohorts the foot in the door of global dominance ! ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:31:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: First look Core i7</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=954</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[Not too many apps out there that is coded to run efficiently on dual core, let alone multiple core CPU's ............. But it's coming !

And the best thing about Core i7 is that it will make the price of dual core / Core 2 Duo and Quad Core CPU's even cheaper  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:18:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ultimate Linux Gaming Machine</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It'd be funny if it wasn't all true ........ LOL
Seriously though, has anyone played an RTS with a console gamepad and was truly satisfied ?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:02:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Confessions of a Mac fan-boy.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]"The root of all my problems, was that people just didn't understand things. "Why do I need anti-virus software? Why does a virus checker make my computer infinitely slower? Why shouldn't I click on banner ads? Why do I need spyware blockers? What's spyware?" I thought they were just stupid, that people should have to know someone like me to be able to own a computer. After a while I realised something else. The main problem was the computer."[/i]

Everything you have described here pertains to Mac's too. I also run both. My wife has a iMac for desktop publishing .... and it's great !
Windows isn't as bad as you are preaching !
You are entitled to your bigoted opinion (it's great to live in a free land) but when a newb asks a question, I would like him/her to see different opinions, not just a vehement attack on MS !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:48:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Confessions of a Mac fan-boy.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Mac's are still pretty proprietry !
My wife uses hers for work (graphic design and publishing) which it does very well !
But forget gaming and entertainment as a viable option. And yes you are right about pricing. Even today Mac's are still way overpriced compared to their Windows counterparts.
Again if you want gaming and entertainment .................. stay clear of Linux !
Just my 2 cents ................ good luck !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:09:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Confessions of a Mac fan-boy.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I just can't believe how bigoted you are against MS based PC's ... Is Bill Gates screwing your sister or something ? ................ Have you ever tried to play an RTS on a console ?
If you want to play games GET A WINDOWS PC RIG !!!
Don't listen to this guy ! ......................... Just my 2 cents]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:07:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Confessions of a Mac fan-boy.</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This was directed at mcbanjo !
The "reply to this post" button didn't work, APC !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:09:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>A powerfull P3 Computer, would you get 1</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=418</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[Finally ! a beast worthy machine to run Ubuntu 8.04  ...... Although finding drivers will still be a nightmare ...... Hee Hee  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:10:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>The C64 was the Mac of its day</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=451</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[I wish I had had that sort of business balls when I was younger  ;-)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 13:05:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>ubuntu 8.04 with bigpond wireless</title>
			<link>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=469</link>
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			<description><![CDATA[I feel your pain.
Option 1: Trawl through a million obscure Linux geek forums ! .... No official support !
Option 2: Re-install Win or OSX 
I opted for option 2 and have never looked back since !
Just  my 2 cents  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:48:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>ubuntu 8.04 with bigpond wireless</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Apologies to gnu for highjacking this thread for a bit !

[quote=Norm]It has been done, but it's surely not for a newbie, unless you want to get your hands dirty.[/quote]


...... "Windows Killer" ? .......... I have the same set up on Vista and it took a total of 15 minutes to get on the net (including getting the hardware out of its box) !

I'm laughing my head off at how 'user friendly' Ubuntu is !!!  LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:54:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=stefcep]WAS but is in decline. Most games purchased are for consoles these days.[/quote]

I think you're missing the whole picture, stefcep !
We retail IT hardware and consoles and our bread and butter income is from PC hardware upgrades. And purely as a economic point of view we prefer the upgrade path. 
The points brought up by CBR1100XX are valid not just for software but mainly [b]hardware[/b].
Intel, AMD/ATI, nVidia, Logitech, Creative and many more gear all their R&D towards gaming and they are making billions ! (most of these companies are disassociated with consoles)
I'm not sure development would be this advanced if PC gaming wasn't a valid money spinner.
And that the point made about running an office suite is very valid .... All we would need is a "486 running Linux and OpenOffice"  :)


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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:47:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Norm]Does anyone recall what the original thread was?

Maybe time for a moderator to lock it and start a new one?

Norm [/quote]

I hope it stays as an 'open' forum !
If you want to endlessly feign over how Ubuntu is an epiphany of computer nirvana then join a dedicated Linux Fanboy forum  :)

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			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:44:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Linux users 'time rich'</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[CBR1100XX's point is very poignant thanks to your replies, AndyCee.
You must be very passionate or very insecure to reply to criticisms of Linux point by point !
Just go and enjoy your Linux only world where typing and spreadsheets rule !
It is always good to have 2 sides of a story and unfortunately newbs trying Linux out will find out the hard way that going back to the devil you know (Win or Mac) is really the only option.
Linux fanboys living in a Linux Only world like yourself are far and few between (or they are just to proud to admit having a another pc/laptop running Win or Mac). Live in your Linux world, but don't try preaching the "Windows Killer" line onto the newbs. Because sooner or later most will know for themselves that Linux isn't !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:34:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Linux users 'time rich'</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I think you have given yourself up here AndyCee as you have claimed you don't have any other 'backup' pc  :)

This is not directed at you or APC in particular but it gets pretty old hat when a new Linux distro or a version pops up and it is automatically claimed to be the instigator of a MS extinction !
I have tried many Linux distros and have the latest Mandriva on VMWare 6 in Vista. It has potential but for a Linux fan to suggest that it will somehow be the end of Win or OSX just gets my hackles up.
If you want to use it on a mini-note for browsing and typing ..... fine !
But for entertainment and gaming every linux distro I've ever used is just NOT THERE !
You can't get the USB ports to work properly let alone 3D sound or Wireless networking !
I'm also sick of hearing these fanboys deride gaming as insignificant !
I've said before and I'll say it again ....... The pc hardware and software industry thrives because of gaming not word processing and web browsing !
But here is their biggest cringe worthy argument ........ IT'S FREE  !!!
FREE DOES NOT MEAN GOOD !!!
Rant over now ........... Urge to kill dropping   ;)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:22:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Linux users 'time rich'</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]In a virtual machine, the devices and connections should connect through the VMware layer.[/quote]

Just to clarify.
The problems with USB and Wireless was when I dual booted Ubuntu. At the moment I'm playing around with Mandriva through VMWare (give it a go). All seems well except an intermittent problem with Realtek AL655 Chip. Should be running through layer but it's a bit 'moody'. a couple of reboots through the VM usually sorts it out.

All of us computer users are 'time rich'. It's part of becoming computer savvy. I was coding with Basic, Fortran and Cobol since the early 80's and have played around with most kernels and codes etc. I don't feel MS products are as bad as people make out and would suggest MS clean up their PR department more than anything else.

And at least you have admitted having access to 'alternative' pc's !
All the others do too, it's their ego won't let them admit it  ;)
Cheers

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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:26:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Linux users 'time rich'</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[LOL ..... Clark Kent strikes again  :P]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:54:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Re: Linux users 'time rich'</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Eps]the rest of us go have sex with girls[/quote]


Ever tried getting a Linux rig up and running with any satisfaction ?
You won't have time for sex, showers, food or sleeping ........ LOL

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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:57:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA["Windows Killer" ?
Come on APC ! ................ sensationalist headlining to sell magazines, me thinks !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:11:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Norm,
"Windows" refers to all versions, just like "Linux" refers to all versions ................. and distros !

Every time a new distro version comes out . "It's a Windows Killer" !
APC does this to raise the hopes of Linux geeks and sell you a magazine !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:10:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Funny !
Ubuntu 6 was what put me off using open source OS all together !
My interest is being tweaked again by the latest Mandriva though !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:49:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Carefull what you say here Picks and stewue !
You'll be flamed for trolling ........ LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:33:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Ubuntu 8.04 -- your thoughts?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Waiting for Aubrey and Norm to chime in here ! ...........................

Seriously though, I do sympathise. Everyone who has had a play with a Linux distro have had these similar problems. And apart from trawling through a million obscure Linux geek forums for help, there is diddly squat else you can do  ............ THERE IS NO OFFICIAL SUPPORT !]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=stefcep]Why make it harder?[/quote]


..... Because they all want to stay as elitist geeks !
Reminds me of the old days of DOS where we used to send tech out to type in "chkdsk.exe" and charged $50.00 for it  !

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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:06:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]Peter - Sorry to see you went that route. (I gave up on this thread as just flamebait so didn't see your original post).[/quote]

Glad you have rejoined the reality that is Linux ..... LOL

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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:38:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[...................... And then you woke up  .... LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:23:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[We provide some schools here in Qld with hardware and software (Both Win and Mac) !
The answer to whether the gov will endorse Linux is a resounding "NO" because of the reason I have been saying all along about Linux ............... 

-It is not a newb/novice friendly OS
-It doesn't support many common apps
-Too many hidden functions which need CLI expertise
-But the biggy is ............. There is NO official support !!!

Most of my techies cringe at the thought of going out to machines running Linux because it is just so hit-and-miss and we are thinking as to whether we should continue with this offered service. There are way too many distros and versions of distros to try and find solutions for that most of the time it is simply left, and us having to say to the customer "I'm sorry" (with no charge) or upgrade to an OS that has genuine support and drivers for common hardware !

I'm not bagging Linux !
Just trying to point out that Linux will never be used in the average computing environment as long as there are a million people contributing to a kernel/code which is written to suit a million different individuals.

The argument by some which say "my grandma is using Linux" doesn't stack up because the person saying this is available to his grandma for IT support 24/7  ........ Most users don't have this luxury !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:52:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]Dude, read my last link. It's polite to do so before posting a response.[/quote]

Dude ! .... I didn't respond to your post ! .... But Aubrey's !

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			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:25:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]Ah, fair enough. It's a shame you can't tell on these forums. In retrospect I see you were answering directly to the OP.[/quote]

Here's another forum improvement suggestion, APC !!!

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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:00:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[CLI (is the best solution) in the 21st century ? ......................... You are kidding yourself !
You are probably still playing text based games too .......... because that's all Linux can handle !

[i]" ... One thing that Windows and Linux have in common is that they are both designed to work with many types of hardware .."[/i]

Linux designed to work with many types of hardware !!! ...... LOL !
Try getting ANY of the Linux distros working with any vanilla flavoured sound cards !

I don't know of any Linux geeks that haven't spent frustrating days getting their "FREE" OS to work properly and still having to compromise ! Spending all of their broadband on forums and downloading scripts, mods and emulators just to get their LAN and Networks up and going.

Get into the 21st century Linux !]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's Linux !
You'll have to trawl through terabytes of info and scripts on millions of forums ..... LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:47:59 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]the best free desktop Linux ?[/i]
Is there any such thing ................................... LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:50:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[+1 stefcep !
The one good thing about having everything in-house is that you have single consistent (even if it is bad) output.
With Linux being tweaked by every Tom, Dick and Harry, you end up with 10 different flavours with no contiguous agreement across the distros !
Try getting the Soundcard driver that works on Mandriva to work on Ubuntu ?

CLI ................. Geeeesh ! It's the 21st century ! (insert rolling eyes here)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:58:16 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]"make ordinary users pay for weedy, bearded guys with short sleeve shirts and ties and a leaking pen and calculator in their left shirt pocket to come and "administer" our networks."[/i]

Careful stefcep ! ................................ I think Norm may be one of these !   LOL]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Pistol,
I don't think your argument is going to hold up in an industry that mutates every 6 months or so. The IT industry changes fast and if there are people still out there championing the CLI then they should go back to school. I know Windows, Mac and Linux still use them for some hidden system applications ! ..... What I'm saying is that they should STOP !
As for your lecturers at uni still using typed commands ? I think this is out of old habits rather than shunning the GUI.
Most of us on this forum are pretty computer literate and hence editing code and using CLI is natural to us. But I sell systems to the majority of the population we refer to as "end users".
They prefer an introduction into the computer world that is user friendly. Not elitist to the old geeks who have grown up editing scripts and batch files to make things work. It's a plug and play world and hence Linux will never dominate as long as 'text' geeks are still writing code for this OS ............... and many of it's siblings !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:49:52 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[You seem to be contradicting your last sentence in your last post !
There are a few diagnostic apps in windows which the end-user would find very useful.
Eg. dxdiag.exe ........ and of course you can set up a shortcut for this but they don't know that unless they trawl through hundreds of pages of user guides.
As I have said before I'm catering for the computer illiterates not savvy people !
Everytime I post something about Linux being 'unfriendly' to the average consumer, I get flamed for pointing out the obvious. I have never said in any of my posts that I hate Linux, just that it is for the savvy geeks (like me), not for the general population or the newbie  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:41:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[As a matter of fact, Aubrey, I retail IT hardware and software.
I run windows and mac os at home and work and have tried ubuntu, mandriva and suse ...... and I still stand by all my comments !

Most people will read your post and think it sarcastic parody...... but I know it is the truth ... LOL]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:40:10 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've been around long enough to remember how to edit config.sys and autoexec .bat files ............................... I want to be able to offer my customers something better and more user friendly that this archaic interface. But if you feel otherwise I have a few Commodore 64 machines for sale with accompanying tape drives in case the text editing gets a little too much for you  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]This pre-occupation with new releases and cosmetic improvements over genuine bug fixing[/quote]

Welcome to my world ........................................... a Windows world   ;-)

At least networking is a strong point in My World (LAN Gaming) !


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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:29:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=stefcep]Regrettably this typifies most discussions I've had with Linux fanatics: if you say "hey there is a better way to do things, have a look at what's been done in the past by other OS's" , "other OS's" for them equals Windows and it becomes a slag-fest of everything thats wrong with Windows, at how you love windows and how stupid you are to love windows. And if you don't agree go back to Windows. What should be a discussion of User-Interface concepts and hence usability, degenerates into Windows Vs Linux battle, as it has several times already in this read.[/quote]

They don't take [b]constructive[/b] criticism very well ... do they ?

PS !
Outstanding, clever and intelligent responses. I tip my hat to you stefcep  :)


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			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:19:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This has been the point all along .....
Linux is NOT ready for EVERY Desktop !
If you are the type that abhors MS that much and want to tinker and mod your own OS then good for you. You have more nouse and patience then me.
But please, oh please, don't preach that Linux is ever going to be a Windows/OSX Killer !
The majority of computers run Windows. If you don't believe this than just do a quick survey of homes and businesses in your local area. So they must be doing something right !

I don't intend any facetiousness below:
My experiences with Ubuntu 6 and 7 has killed any enthusiams I have had for this OS. The frustrations getting sound/video and networking to work has led me to scream about the cost of a Linux distro. I'm glad it's FREE, because if anyone charged for this, they would be lynched !

But if you love spending a week getting a system up and running with uncommon and unpopular apps running in emulation modes (again, no disrespect intended), then go for it ! Just don't bag the OS that the rest of us have grown and loved  :)]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]" .. And seriously, You in Oz - take a cold shower. The good points you raise are negated by the inaccurate flamebait you post. Or is that intentional and i missed the joke?
 ... "[/i] - [b]AndyCee[/b]

Nothing I have said is meant as flamebait or a joke, it's the truth !
I've sold and maintained computers for over 20 years ..... since the Commodore 64 days !
And I don't need cold showers ............. I'm married to a beautiful girl  :)]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]" .. PS. You in Oz - While you've tried linux distros yourself, do any of your customers ask about it? From either end of the experience scale? "[/i] - [b]AndyCee[/b]

No, most are, as I have said are newbies or just want plug 'n play functionality.
Customers who are savvy enough to wrangle a linux distro don't usually come into a business like ours. They prefer to either resurrect and older machine or are capable of building their own machines.

There are a few diehards who do ask for Linux OS, mainly on laptops. The customers who patronise my business are people who just want word processing, internet, email with a large emphasis on gaming and thus with this in mind (and of course the commercial publisher kickbacks, after all, we are a business) we can only recommend a Win or Mac rig.

Personally I have been frustrated with Ubuntu and have tried the latest flavour of Mandriva, and have found it more 'friendly' on my multi-boot machine.

I have never hated Linux. My servers run unix and I wouldn't have any other way :)
All we are saying is that the distros need some sort of continuity across the versions and that they are not an OS for the 'average' end-user. If anyone doesn't believe me, just frequent the linux forums to find out how even, the linux savvy people are still very frustrated at the issues brought up here.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Norm, 
This long winded narrative is exactly what I'm talking about !
If you presented this to a newb or a novice computer user, all they would hear is ... Blah Blah Blah  ..... and end up going to buy a Mac  !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:34:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[LOL
Windows Killer ?
Ubuntu 7.x couldn't do it !
Ubuntu 8.x hasn't done it !
Ubuntu 119.x won't do it !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:13:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Delan Ahmad]Try Ubuntu now. You'll be surprised.[/quote]

I have tried Ubuntu 8.xx a few times and found it atrocious.
- Couldn't get drivers for a 4 year old network card.
- Couldn't get my SB Audigy 2 card working.
- Couldn't get drivers for my TV Tuner card.
- At that time the ATI Graphics support was nearly non-existent.
- A few dozen hours trawling the Linux websites for help/support yeilded nothing but frustration and abuse.
- Couldn't get a few apps to run properly (mainly POS apps we use for work and Quicken was also a no go!)
- And lets not get started on online gaming or gaming in general !
................ etc etc etc !!!

[quote=Delan Ahmad]There is a MS-compatible Linux equivalent for every MS app.[/quote]

EVERY App ? .................... You are delusional !

[quote=Delan Ahmad]No way. Sorry![/quote]

You ought to be! You Linux geeks are proud of the fact there are those secret and hidden functions that only the secret society of Linux geeks can access!

[quote=Delan Ahmad]I'm sorry, Me In Oz, you fail.[/quote]

Again, you ought to be! And I didn't know it was a competition!
I'm mainly a gamer and our customers are gamers! Linux IS NOT an OS for this market!

[quote=Delan Ahmad]and have never been happier or worry-free.[/quote]

Great! If you ever diversify away from word processing and spreadsheets into gaming, then let us all in how happy you are at getting a copy of Crysis or GTA IV running in SLi or Crossfire hardware on a Linux rig!

I can tell you now that it will be you who will fail in this situation!

Cheers




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			<description><![CDATA[(A) & (B)

I cheated and asked my wife. She's a graphics designer/publisher  :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:56:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Had a similar incident when Apple's Safari was released and touted as an IE Killer !
It was supposed to run under Win but kept crashing. MS support returned my concerns by stating that Safari has issues under Win and my enquiries should be directed at Apple. So this went nowhere of course and in hindsight and having read many things about Apple's browser, I now firmly believe that Safari was one of the most buggy piece of code to be released (for Windows anyway)
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:15:05 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]All those who mandated this clueless knob to further mess up Australian Telecommunications must now be truely proud[/quote]

I'm with you here ! ........................... No ! Really !
The ones that thought he was Australia's IT saviour before the election must be dancing a jig now !

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]The man's record in a few short months has been abysmal at best, and treacherous upon even the most evaluation. [/quote]

 I've got him neck and neck with Peter Garrett ............ LOL !


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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Kristian]Most of those issues seem unique to you [/quote]

No ! Not just unique to him.
I'm sufering some of the issues with IE7 and Maxthon 2.1

It's pretty discouraging to type in a 200 word reply, just to have it absorbed into the continuum of cyberspace   :(


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			<description><![CDATA[Maybe we should just let Raindog run this forum  ;)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:27:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'm not sick of Raindog in general as he does have some things of usefulness to contribute, but I agree, that his gloom and derision of anything new is getting a little 'old hat'. 

I think Raindog has to understand that, although, he considers most new technologies as 'bunkum', others may have a possible use for it.

The thing that irks me most is that people (not just Raindog) will condemn products without even using it themselves or are critically reviewing products while they are just in pre-beta stages.

I certainly don't want this forum highly moderated and look forward to Raindog's comments ......... even if it is just to poke fun at it     ;-)]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]It seems Raindog is quite the 'protected' species here at APC. [/quote]

Raindog ! You're not Dan's love-child are you ?    ;-)


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]Well someone has a sense of humour, odd that same sense of humour vanishes the moment roles are reversed.[/quote]

It's the only way to treat these food fights !
Although you do draw quite a large target on your back !

Tin, Aubrey, AndyCee, McBanjo, SLi and the like are all quite obstinate and one-eyed (me included) and yet you seem to be the one that is the magnet for all the pro-MS fraternity.

Could it be that the rest are quite tolerant of other's opinions (even if they are wrong or silly) and that they don't parody others word for word ?

You keep harping about 'treating others the way you would like to be treated', and this would seem the best way to keep this site unmoderated and civil.

Are you man enough to start ?

I'm willing to give it a go !

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]you would simply set about singling out another respondent.[/quote]

A bit presumptuous !
I stated that they do not draw the attention you receive because they tolerate other's opinions and comments ......... and don't parody them for their own amusement !

[quote=Raindog]are you about to return to the safety of a noisy mob?[/quote]

I have and will always do what I see fit !

[quote=Raindog]interjections like "MACs suck get a PC" [/quote]

Yet you deem it appropriate to post sentiments of the same with regard to anything MS !

Your double standards on this forum are quite obvious to all and may add to the size of that target you keep drawing on your back !

Notice nothing I have said is personally abusive ! Just some suggestion that would ensure a more civil and adult forum !


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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:07:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]Nothing presumptuous about it,[/quote]

The Oxford dictionary begs to differ !

[quote=Raindog]So your in no position to complain about any dismissal or mockery of your comments.[/quote]

You keep the salvos coming and they'll be returned in kind by all you offend !

[quote=Raindog]Only from a narrow self serving viewpoint [/quote]

Here's an example where this poll would be a benefit !

[quote=Raindog]that simply demonstrated you inability to accept the opinion of others.[/quote]

You are up til 3:00 am replying to these comments, and you blame others for not accepting counter viewpoints ?

[quote=Raindog]Do you not consider that personally abusive?[/quote]

No I don't ! ....... But I'm happy to let APC decide and not you !

[quote=Raindog]I f you wish to make suggestion you also need to consider the suggestions of others,[/quote]

That's the 'holier-than-thou' attitude that would be exposed by this poll !




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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:51:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]OK off you go care to clarify your claim?[/quote]

You don't have access to a dictionary ?

[quote=Raindog]I've never stood for threats from any group of noisy bullies.[/quote]

Good for you !

[quote=Raindog]and don't presume your self worthy of such effort.[/quote]

Oh ! But we are obviously worth the effort for you Raindog !
(all seems very familiar)

[quote=Raindog]My hours are neither your concern nor your business,[/quote]

Too true !
If you are losing sleep and want to stay up all hours answering inane comments with inane replies, by all means enjoy yourself !

[quote=Raindog]Well APC did decide and your personal attacks and behavior clearly outside acceptable standards were soon removed.[/quote]

Don't exclude your self Raindog !
You've had a few pulled too !

[quote=Raindog]Bullying fanboy behavior is a major source of annoyance, you don't need a poll to determine that is the case.[/quote]

That's conjecture and opinion !
A formal poll would give a definitive and objective result !

Anyway ! I've got an early mark, so have a good weekend ........ and try and get some sleep  :)


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			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:39:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]Raindog, don't listen to the useless talking of of these sick bastards.[/quote]

Oh ! But he does listen ................. at 3:00 am in the morning !

Just a hint Halcon, Raindog would consider calling 'us' sick bastards as contravening the T&C !


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Tin]As opposed to the 3AM that sometimes randomly shows up in the arvo?[/quote]

3:00 am in the arvo only appears on those occasions where copious amounts of Merlot has been consumed the night before !
Mmmmmmmm ....................................... Merlot   :D


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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:28:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Great to see the foodfight on the matte screen thread removed and the 'kanebt' post left intact.
At least APC can embrace some criticism, unlike others on this forum.
Cheers Dan]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Site went down for about 20 minutes again ! (insert rolling eyes here)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:57:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Maybe because it's so slow and stability is non-existent at the moment.
Personally I have typed a reply and and hit 'submit' only to find the site has crashed and I couln't be bothered retyping.
I have also noticed less confrontational posts. People may finally be getting it about posting informative stuff rather than just whining about My OS is bigger than yours !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:34:40 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[My apologies !
Site freezes, not crashes ! ... No message of any sort.
Have to shutdown IE7 or Maxthon 2.1 and restart again ... by that time I'm over it !
As a suggestion, the old front-end was more useful to posters as it gave you an immediate look-see as to what is being currently posted !]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:26:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yes ! The old homepage.
As another suggestion, send the web gurus over to another forum I post on to see how a forum front page should be done.
URL: www.cbrxx.com
Cheers

DAMN: Just had to do this again !  .........  'replying' page froze again !!!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:41:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[While moderating for offensive language is a good idea, I do not think it warrants heavy moderation yet ! Everyone is entitled to their opinions without someone else jumping in and appointing himself as a moderator seeking and demanding justification and validity for every post. If this was the case, no one would have a valid case to post any facts. I have rarely seen any comment with cited references. While I and others have pursued issues we have had with a certain member, I don't think ours or his comments should be moderated and censored. We haven't threatened murder or any of the sort. We're adults and a good verbal stoush does not imply any harm to anyone. This is why I like visiting APC and not the heavily censored abc.net.au !
And as for moderators, do we get to vote them in or is it a case of nepritism  ;-)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:57:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Raindog]Moderation is not the enforcement of popular opinion[/quote]

Only if fair-minded and objective people are chosen !


[quote=Raindog]remember this is APCs forum so it up to them how they choose to manage it.[/quote]


So if APC's advertising money is mainly due to Microsoft, will we see Apple and Linux comments 'moderated' to suit ? ......... See the danger here ?

[quote=Raindog]I have every right to question your statements and replies [/quote]

You do ! But not parody someone's comments word-by-word under the auspices of trying to be funny (ala the Toshiba post by YAJ). I consider this form of childishness just as deserving of moderation as simple name calling !

[quote=Raindog]No-one is playing moderator. But a noisy few have taken offence to any criticism of their own narrow points of view[/quote]

There you go again ! Narrow points of view ? ....... Because you don't agree with it !
All views and opinions are valid. We don't need moderators to decide what is 'narrow' or 'broad' !

[quote=Raindog]In the windows XP vs Vista thread I asked repeatedly for reasons to support an argument with not a single adult reply to support that case. A good supporting argument [/quote]

We had already said a few times to log on to any gaming and Vista fanboy site for the answer !
But for your benefit, Raindog, here is mine ..............
I like Vista because it is the ONLY option as a gaming platform for the PC. With tweaking it can encompass every game ever made. No other OS will allow this type of flexibility .......... There  :)


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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:23:17 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi Dan Warne,
Thanks, that was one of the nicest 'reprimand' emails I have ever seen  ;-)
I will hope, though, the same has been forwarded to the other members involved (you all know who you are)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:47:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AtticusFinch]I actually don't remember posting anything personally abusive or insulting to anyone[/quote]

I agree !
I think a personal apology from the 'sensible' police is in order here .............................. Along with a free trip to Fiji     ;-)

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