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		<title>APC - User - Raindog</title>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BrownieBoy]How did I deride his credibility,[/quote]

perhaps  lines like <em>Predictably, Mr Bannan parrots out the MS line, gushing about</em> in your reply may have given that impression? hmm?


[quote=BrownieBoy]I questioned the nature of his exposure to a specific product at a specific time, and whether such limited exposure gave him the rights to make the claims that he does.[/quote]

Limited exposure? How did you determine Mr Bannans exposure was limited? 

Gave him the right? What gived you the right to suggest Mr Bannan should not express an opinion? You bang on often enough about your right of expression, you'd think you'd believe the author was entitled to the same priviledge.

Disagree bu all means? But if you can't do so without attempting to deride the author then it's unlikely you have thought your reply through. Or maybe you were predictably parrotiing out an anti MS line gushing about?

enjoy!





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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:10:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[plutonium210 again adds nothing of value and wishes to disrupt rather than participate constructively in the discussion.

Get a hobby, you moron! 


Your pointless snipes are nothing but tedium for others to endure.

Come back when you have something on topic to contribute.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 10:13:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:54:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:33:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]Here is a question for you Raindog.
What would you do if you get frustrated by using some of the well known software?[/quote]

Well I wouldn't say frustration, more disillusionment with many of the well know software offerings. Innovation is few and far between, just an endless cycle of bigger faster hardware, and bloated software to cripple it.

What would I do? The answer to that is what I do now. Use the best (ie: most appropriate) tool for the job. For me that's a mix if W2K/XP and Linux boxes. 
 
For a lot of us "because its newer" is not a good reason for going out and loading anything a software house chooses to belch out.

I am not a no Microsoft at any cost zealot, I use their products daily, but only when they are the best tool for the job. For example,Open Office isn't a complete replacement for MS Office but it comes surprisingly close and for many it would be more than adequate.

I make no apology for being critical of MS and other large players, they demand a premium price for their products, and oft fall short of the premium delivery. 

Noisy pro and against fan boys do nothing but increase the level of static, the "Macs just work" and the "We Like Windows because we do" brigades do nothing towards improving products, or towards letting manufacturers know of their products limitations.

 
[quote=Halcon]In my humble opinion, you are very eloquent, you could write articles for APC as well. [/quote]

Thank you for the compliment, but I'd be the first to say eloquent is not something I'd suggest on any resume. I do however have the ability to evaluate a product on it's abilities rather than it's marketing promises. And thankfully several other regular contributors here do too. I'll leave the articles to the paid scribes and do my best to add useful comments, despite the sea of noisy fan boys detractors.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:52:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Edit Windows XP registry</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Have you tried booting the drive into safe mode?

If it wont boot into safe mode your problem is something other than drivers.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:17:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Two years of Vista &amp;quot;Ultimate&amp;quot;</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]I think this is a little presumptuous and harsh.[/quote]


Not really the MS Hype Machine is spitting out Windows 7 promises at an astonishing rate, and given the previous rounds of mistakes and under delivery it will take a fair effort to restore reputation and to deliver a product matching the current range of promises.

[quote=Your Average Joe]Lets wait for the RTM before it is roundly criticised. [/quote]

Why? The whole purpose of pre release information is to encourage discussion and interest, and also to gather feedback.

[quote=Your Average Joe]Reading a lot of tidbits suggests that MS may have heard all the outrage[/quote]

It is heartening to see that some of what is being said by MS indicates they are at least addressing some of the long held annoyances with their OS.


[quote=Your Average Joe]the marketing of Vista and de-hyped some of the wild expectations. [/quote]

Windows 7 is still being hyped to the max, and many of the expectations still not addressed will determine it's widespread success. All the eye candy and party tricks do not bring success as Vista has well proven. 
The issues of price disparity, version confusion and restrictions and wide ranging hardware incompatibility  we saw in Vista may still be present in MS's new offering. There is still lots that needs resolving.

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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:56:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Bootable USB stick and Windows PE 2.0?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I haven't tried this with Bart PE, but its an interesting tool for creating bootable USB images from CD ISOs.  Has to be worth a try. 

[url=http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/]UnetBootin[/url]]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:42:33 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BrownieBoy]Predictably, Mr Bannan parrots out the MS line,[/quote]


No Mr Bannon, put forward an article based on his experience and on pre-release material he has access to. Mr Bannon clearly states his personal bias and preferences within his article.

What is predictable is yours and other fan-boys various bursting forth in protection of your OS of choice.  


[quote=BrownieBoy]And it's a shame that such reflection couldn't stretch to the magazine's front page headlines;[/quote]

And this differs from headlines the world over how exactly? What were you expecting?


[quote=BrownieBoy]Mr Bannan goes on to say "The important thing to realise is that Windows 7 isn't 'Vista as it should have been'". Sorry, James; that's not what I've been hearing. Not least from APC's own David Flynn,[/quote]

It's called diversity of opinion. If you approach the world expecting every written piece you encounter to align with your own viewpoint then your destined for disappointment aren't you.  And despite your claims what you've basically demonstrated is that APC is presenting a balanced presentation of a wide range of points of view.


[quote=BrownieBoy]And if Windows 7 is, indeed, Vista warmed over, the same will apply there too.[/quote]

And if? And if your guesses and supposition don't align with reality who'll be wiping egg away from face. I often differ in opinion from the views of many APC scribes but at least I can be sure they are reporting from a basis just a little more secure than popular myth.

Disagree with what people have to say by all means but if you cannot do so without personal swipes then be prepared for some close examination of your own credentials.

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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:55:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BrownieBoy]First off, it's Bannan not Bannon.[/quote]

My mistake, my apologies to Mr Bannan.


[quote=BrownieBoy]And his "experience" at the time of writing the article, appears to consist of watching a Microsoft demo, and then reading their hand outs.[/quote]

You'd not have to read too far to see Mr Bannan's credentials are a little more complete than what you suggest.


[quote=BrownieBoy]At least, that's what I could gather from reading the article in the mag. (Have you?)[/quote]

Well since you ask. Yes, I have read the current article and numerous other related articles by both the authors mentioned.


[quote=BrownieBoy]Quite so. And my opinion - I am allowed one, am I not?[/quote]

You can have 3 opinions for all I care,  when did having an opinion become license to deride the credibility of an author with who you disagree?


[quote=BrownieBoy]I expect the same the same kind of balance that the actual articles demonstrated.[/quote]

Expect what you like, but the commercial reality of creating headlines that grasp the attention from busy newsagent shelves, will probably be of a lot greater importance than construction of headlines than meet the BrownieBoy headline satisfaction rating.  

I'd have though educated readers would  have been more concerned with the content of the article than with any headline splashes. Are you suggesting the magazine content falls short?


[quote=BrownieBoy]I know that space for headlines on a magazine front page is limited, but I don't think that's an excuse.
[/quote]

Excuse? What excuse? How has any of the headlines oversold the publication? Would you prefer no headlines? Or perhaps images of small fuzzy animals?


[quote=BrownieBoy]I expect the same the same kind of balance that the actual articles demonstrated.[/quote]

And from this editorial balance you feel best able to issue a one sided reply deriding the author you personal lack of balance dictate you disagree with? 



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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:05:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>LAN access via XP </title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Not familiar with the Netcomm, but looking at it's user guide the Timed filtering appears to block all access from the selected host computer to the router.

A quick and dirty fix would be to. -Add a small  $20 Ethernet switch beside your router and connect the router and all the PC hosts plus the printer to this. Make sure your printer and other shared resourses have a static IP and if necessary add their hostnames to the PC hosts file.

The Netcomm will still block outside access to specific hosts as configured while allowing local Lan communication via the switch. Quick and dirty but it will work.  ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:43:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC December 08: Windows 7 to fix Vista</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:51:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Windows &amp;quot;King of the universe&amp;quot; ?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=JBannan]Sorry you thought so - to be honest I don't give a toss which one is best[/quote]

The whole which one is best is a nonsense, It's like what is the best car, the best novel, the best hair colour for a prospective beau. I read your articles James and I take your opinions on board and choose to agree/disagree based on my own long experience.

[quote=JBannan]but I do get angry by sloppy thinking and online forum elitism[/quote]

Agreed, it's somewhat child like the the fan-boys of any flavour cannot accept criticism in any form. There is no doubt that Windows is the predominant operating system, but this is no reason why everything that is delivered by MS should be accepted without critical evaluation. The debate only becomes childish when respondents choose to participate with a closed mind.

I accept your opinions  on Windows and your analysis of the products, but those opinions are in no way universal despite your experience being invaluable. The truth is there is a place for all the current OS and software players, and from a consumer point of view a bit less of the MS dictate would be a valuable thing.

I respect your opinion James but from a return on investment point of view I cannot see Vista as  anything but an expensive dog that is being thrust at me, and I am far from alone in drawing that conclusion.

James you make comment of forum elitism, and in the same thread assume all users as morons from an administrators point of view. There is a tinge of that same elitism in your comments. 
I have been there done that an know it's all too easy to slap all users in the moron bucket from an admin point of view.  But is the readership of APC not hopefully at least half a step above that? One would hope so.

You have in this thread universally panned OS-X as niche, and Linux as being for those with propellers on their hats, isn't that a touch elitist? Whilst I agree that Windows is generally the easiest product to roll out to a common denominator user base, much of that ease comes from a user base familiarity. That is a windows strength but not a strength the can rely on at any cost.

I have appreciated your putting forward in various articles the pluses and minuses of Microsoft's latest market foray and whilst I agree with your comments almost without exception I cannot agree with some of your conclusions. To universally accept what MS dishes up and to continue to ignore other products is folly in itself. Why would MS strive to do better if a market place is willing to put up with their many product short comings? And why would MS  not believe they can dictate to consumers, when so many are prepared to accept whatever is dished up?


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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:14:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Two 360Gb drives</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Mysteron]can I put windows XP on on the empty drive then dual boot?[/quote]

Yes!

[quote=Mysteron]I have read the use of both on one drive, but I am lost when it comes to using another drive.[/quote]


What you need to get your head around is the boot process, there are many ways of running multiple OS's.  Have a read through the many excellent How-tos for the tab above. Running from another disk is really no different to running from a separate partition on the same disk.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:16:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>XP SP2 error when browsing in Explorer</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Forum-Bug]Two of the biggest pieces of SH## on the market.
[/quote]

in your narrow and bullish opinion!  

How do free releases rank as on the market anyway? I'd rather see people using them than nothing at all which is the common alternative.


Both these packages,  while not my personal favorites have been tested and tested and tested in comparative reviews and have never come up with results akin to something you'd find in a Coogee Bay Sundae.

No software package offers 100% detection or 100% protection so better advice would be to use more than one detection tool upon suspicion of an attack. 

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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:10:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>XP SP2 error when browsing in Explorer</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=LostBenji]Unlike you, I see plenty of systems each week and have[/quote]


Well hello Robinson Crusoe! - Take your hand of it 


[quote=LostBenji]I will re-iterate, if its so great, then why would AVG have a paid for version[/quote]

Marketing is your strong suite either.

You've had a go with your opinion, how about letting other hold theirs without the ridicule and rudeness?

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			<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:35:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>XP SP2 error when browsing in Explorer</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=LostBenji]If you and Norm or anyone else want to use programs like AVG or Zone, then by all means. [/quote]

Somewhat in contrast to your unfounded derision of others. I had not stated what I used, but I take offence to you arrogance towards others in this post.


[quote=LostBenji]It keeps me in a job.[/quote]


Again take your hand off it.

[quote=LostBenji]Telling me to take my hand off it just says your a little pissy or maybe a little of the "Tall Poppy syndrome"[/quote]

Or maybe you were being told to take your hand off it.

[quote=LostBenji]who knows but when you start getting involved with factual and actual advice instead of just going off stuff you have read elsewhere then I might take you seriously.[/quote]

Now who is getting a little pissy? Hmm. I've questioned your assumption of a position of supposed superiority. You still seem to believe you are the only one with some experience. Let's just say I've put you right on that one.

[quote=LostBenji]How am I to take your advice when its just ridicule and rudeness itself.[/quote]

Did you think I offered you advice? No I just ticked you off for your rude an arrogant response.

[quote=LostBenji]I give my time freely to those who ask for advice and do so willingly[/quote]

What is this Mother Teresa syndrome? Didn't norm give his opinion and advice freely and willingly? Disagree by all means, I'd encourage that, but demonstrate that you have some actual security in your own beliefs and in your experience by doing so without the arrogant put-downs and bully-some chest beating.

[quote=LostBenji]yes I do seem direct[/quote]

Direct is fine, rude and arrogant isn't. Work it out.

[quote=LostBenji]I have done my time[/quote]

Here we go with the Robinson Crusoe bit again, suggesting you are the only one with a technology based career? It may be news to you but a lot of other contributors hare have been around as long or for a hell of a lot longer. 
More to the point those who dismiss or deride the input of the enthusiastic amateurs are just the victims of their own insular and myopic bias.
  
[quote=LostBenji]then no wonder the place is quiet[/quote]

And your ripping into someone because the cared to share their own experiences encourages growth and participation?


[quote=LostBenji]I'm sure this will be quoted and responded too but hey[/quote]

SO what is the word of LostBenji to stand always without question or examination? Get your hand off it.

[quote=LostBenji]I have said my piece and I'm over,[/quote]

good, now if you can say any further pieces without condescension and an assumption of superiority, then others and grumpy old bastards like me might be more than appreciative of that input.


[quote=LostBenji]If you don't like it then [/quote]

what's this you can't stand criticism? If you don't like my criticism of your manner and rudeness, I have offered more than enough clues as to how you could make that stop.


And for the record I pretty much agree with you re: zone-alarm, and doubt the effectiveness of any no dedicated firewall solution. Not that they don't work, more that they are too complex and and are generally compromised by users unable to comprehend what that are doing.

I never did disclose what AV software I use, suffice to say it's what is appropriate for situation at hand. 
I routinely suggest or advise that others use and install AVG-free. And while it may not be the most effective package out there it is a million times more effective than the usual alternatives. Those being nothing at all, or the long expired Norton or McAfee trialware that came with the machine.  
You dont put $400 tyres on a $200 car.

As for you assertions that AVG is a resource hog, I would not argue, other than to say no more so than any of the display boxed packages consumers are likely to use.

I had no issue with your opinion, I had a real issue with the arrogance and rude way it was delivered. So there you go, that should be more than enough insight.


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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:25:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Two years of Vista &amp;quot;Ultimate&amp;quot;</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I remember something called windows plus around the time of Win95 being released with similar offers and promises. Successive release of that never surfaced.  

I'm yet to see the justification for anything but a single version of any OS release. 

I guess until users are prepared to evaluate just what they are paying for with Ultimate releases and such like, then it will be a tool for marketeers to squeeze that extra dollar.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:03:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Two years of Vista &amp;quot;Ultimate&amp;quot;</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=djsflynn]Actually, I don't recall Plus being promoted as anything more than a one-off release -- there were no promises of extra stuff after you bought the CD.[/quote]


The Plus CD came bundled with early releases of Win98, later on it was put up for individual sale. We are talking a time when most downloads were tiny and off bulletin Boards. Either way the Plus CD was the over-priced promise pack of the day. 

And yes the Pinball game was the only thing on the CD worth the effort and certainly not justification for the sticker price.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:21:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>What is my computer's MAC address?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[url=http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&m=4598#4598]Answered in the other thread you posted this question in[/url]]]></description>
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			<title>APC March 09: Win 7 to kill Vista</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Dan Warne]I don't get why everyone is so excited about Win 7.[/quote]

I know I'm not. There is still many issues to address both with the product and it's market delivery.  

There is still plenty of good reasons to cling to older Windows versions or to look at alternatives. From the standpoint of small to medium systems it is still overblown and expensive for what is delivered. With Office and in particular Outlook losing favour, the days of "it must be Microsoft" are coming to a gradual close. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Hear that all you ......[/quote]

Shut-up idiot! Your vandalism is not required.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:31:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]That's your best is it ?[/quote]

Your not worth any best.

Now since you slow on the uptake I'll repeat,  Shut-up Idiot your vandalism is not required!!
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:30:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Shut-up Idiot and show some consideration for others!!!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:21:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Others ?[/quote]

Yes others. Your vandalism disadvantages others who prefer to participate in a sane and rational manner.


[quote=plutonium210]Others were never my target ![/quote]

Only self-serving retarded fan-boy warriors think of targets.  Your admission of targets leaves no doubt to you intentions. You clearly have no intention of ever behaving in a reasonable manner.


[quote=plutonium210]The fact I annoy you throughout the week is happiness enough for me ![/quote]

That's where you don't get it. You are achieving nothing but vandalism. You clearly have no concept of how unimportant and insignificant you actually are.


[quote=plutonium210]Gives my life direction[/quote]

direction? Your pointless vandalism is sadness personified. You have no direction, now worth and zero self esteem. 

So Shut-Up Idiot!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]No ! I'm cool with it.[/quote]

Well news for you. Your not the only person on the planet not the only participant on the forum. About time you realised that and began showing some consideration for others.


[quote=Your Average Joe]When you .......... we'll lay off ![/quote]

Sound like a threat! It's all threat and tantrums with you isn't it? About time you learnt a little about polite behavior.


[quote=Your Average Joe]The fact your are aggravated enough to answer every post reinforces how important we are to you and your miserable lonely life.[/quote]

You really are dim aren't you? You just don't get it. You setting out to win battles and tripping over your own stupidity before firing a shot.

You will not force me or anyone else to subscribe to your point of view. You will not win with your attempts to intimidate. Throw all the tantrums you like it will never validate your bad behavior.
 

[quote=Your Average Joe]
Aggravating you is a great direction and it's worth is 'priceless'[/quote]

And in a nutshell we have it. You sole intent. Problem is you have failed and failed miserably.  You've achieved nothing but disruption, for you to see that as priceless is truly sad, and a reflection of your worthlessness.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]he quicker APC moderates this forum against [/quote]

It shouldn't need constant moderation. But vandals like you will likely bring that about. And when you find yourself moderated you squeal like schoolgirls, and go forth and find something else to destroy.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Come on Dan & Co. ![/quote]

In case you hadn't noticed this is their forum, not yours. It's not your place (or mine or anyone else's) to tell APC how to run THEIR site.  It's about time you realised your place in the scheme of things and started behaving like a reasonable human being.

 
[quote=Your Average Joe]This is surely worth a[/quote]

Your tantrums are worth nothing, neither are your vandalism or attempts to bully and intimidate. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]It's a real shame APC cannot see it !
[/quote]

Then you should be well aware of your alternatives.


[quote=plutonium210]He's had a run in with just about everyone. [/quote]

No only those who believe they can force their opinions onto me or anyone else.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Ive noticed a pattern starting to develop here[/quote]

be sure your noticing from a balnced point of view.


[quote=NetR@nger]turns into a flame war or a personnel attack.[/quote]

And just who is making the personal attacks?


[quote=NetR@nger]My point is,if all you want to do is attack everyone with you keyboard heroics,why don't you join a win Vs mac site?[/quote]

Could not agree more. And sadly because some see a question as a personal attack they perpetually create such behavior? Since you've chosen to have apoint of view on this off topic area of the discussion could you perhaps explain how you see asking for further input can be interpreted as attack. 
If responses are to be any old pap or slogan which must never be questioned then there isnt much scope for reasoned discussion. 


[quote=NetR@nger]I know[/quote]

No I don't think you know the half of it.


[quote=NetR@nger]Ive been using this forum for a while now[/quote]

And your the only one?
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]The fact that you have posted "Shut-up Idiot" 20 times this morning suggests it does ![/quote]

What that does indicate is that you've made at least 20 attempts to disrupt and annoy. Something so proudly claim as your own. My statements regarding moderation and your appalling behavior still stand.


[quote=plutonium210]No one is demanding anything, We're suggesting it ![/quote]

Then your method of suggestion could do with a good touch of manners.



[quote=plutonium210]Come on Dan, at least a small referendum on the idea ![/quote]

A referendum? Are you for real? This is APC's site, a fact you choose to ignore.


[quote=plutonium210]It's priceless to[/quote]

Your vandalism is not priceless, it is worthless. It will not continue unchecked.
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:52:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]but his contributions to this forum suggests otherwise ![/quote]


And you can point to just one constructive contribution you have made? None! Zero! Zilch! Zip! Not a one.

You will not shout me down, if you do not wish to listen you are well aware of your options.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Raindog's right ![/quote]

First clever thing you've said all morning.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]We want you here to annoy[/quote]

then as usual you failed. You lose! Failed to meet your objective! Crashed and burned! Is this the point where you throw your tantrum or has it already begun?

Sole purpose to annoy eh? You really are a sad and sorry individual.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Hope So ![/quote]

Hope away!


[quote=Your Average Joe]APC will hopefully step in[/quote]

Of course any intervention could result in curbing a lot of your privileges. But then you vandals don't have respect for anyone or anything, so that probably wont concern you.  You'll just find something else to destroy, will will still leave your life achievements score at nil.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]You spent all morning [/quote]


Only moments of it?  Did it take you all morning? I'd have thought arguments as flimsy as yours could have been penned in moments.  Obviously it takes you longer.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]That's why we are annoying you ![/quote]

your annoying yes, but you are not succeeding on making me annoyed. Your just not that important.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Surely even you must have noticed that it is ONLY you we're are targeting ![/quote]

It is immaterial what you (you all) are targetting. it isn't your place to targets. You place is to sit quietly and contribute only things that could be of benefit to others.  


[quote=Your Average Joe]YOU ARE THE TARGET !!![/quote]

Your intentions are clear you wish to vandalise, to intimidate and to disrupt. You will not succeed with any of those aims.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Got to go to lunch now, back soon Raindog ! [/quote]

Be careful in traffic, we'd hate to see you come to any harm. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]just presenting your [/quote]


your presenting nothing other than your own ignorance and stupidity.


Shut-Up Idiot!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:45:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Put some effort in it ! [/quote]

How about you put some effort into improving your behavior? You never know you might actually enjoy it if you did.
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:06:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Well you know how to get the ball rolling ![/quote]

I do! Your point is?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:01:24 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Good ! It's a start. Now lets see how long you can last ![/quote]


You over estimate yourself idiot.  You don't seriously believe I am doing anything in response to your threats and demands.  As if.

Want to be treated like a reasonable human being? All you have to do is begin behaving like one.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:38:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[i]There is still plenty of good reasons to cling to older Windows versions[/i]

[quote=plutonium210]Name some ![/quote]

Lower hardware requirements for workstations.
Lesser need for server upgrades.
Minimal or zero productivity gains delivered by upgrading.
Lower energy consumption footprint per workstation.
Office 2007 reintroduces compatibility issues.
More stable hardware and software support platform (at this time)
etc etc etc.

 


[quote=plutonium210]Show us some references for this outrageous claim ![/quote]

You've been shown numerous reference, the sales and uptake figures bear out my claims as does Microsoft's rush to thrust another version onto the market place early into the upgrade cycle.

Your purpose is not to debate or discuss you are here to vandalise, to disrupt and to make you feeble attempts to intimidate. You stated in print on several occasion that is you only purpose.

Take the hint and Shut-Up idiot! No one wants to read you tangents of spite and stupidity, your pointless attack will be erased from view as they always are. 



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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]That's the problem will all your comments in general ![/quote]

What that they don't align with the fan-boy few? Any reasonable individual would have realised that replies will come from a variety of stand points. But then you have clearly shown yourself not to be a reasonable individual.


[quote=Your Average Joe]All of your opinions are based around what you personally experience[/quote]

And what should they be based on? The poetic works of Dorathea McKellar?


[quote=Your Average Joe]in your limited field of expertise.[/quote]

And of course consumer fan-boy, and keyboard operator is an all encompassing viewpoint for you to cite limited experience.  I mean shouldn't we all be in awe that you've assembled a clone or seven in your spare time?


[quote=Your Average Joe]So just because your clients are finding alternatives (usually upon your advice) to MS, doesn't mean MS are going into receivership ![/quote]

At what time did I state Microsoft was anywhere near receivership. A fact of which you are well aware. I'm sure Balmer and co are not even aware of some knob with a red computer battling on in some fight they are not even aware exists.

If you cannot accept alternate points of view without tantrums  and vitriol then yo have no place in reasonable adult debate. 

If derision of your narrow mindedness offends then perhaps its time you learned not to remain so narrow minded.  Simple really even a fan-boy should be able to comprehend.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]The fact you get to read them and reply before it is erased is good enough for me, moron[/quote]

Just more demonstration that you have no care or respects for other participants. You are a Vandal, nothing more you participation does is solely to disrupt and destroy.

Shut-Up Idiot!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]That's "participant" [/quote]


No I was correct the first time. Nobody but you (and a few other mindless knobs) want to read flame wars. You show no respect for ALL the readers and operators of this forum with your pointless vandalism regardless of where you choose to aim you're spite! You really are a nasty and destructive prat!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:17:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Dinglenutz]the next best thing would be ur insurance details incase it screws up[/quote]

Insurance details traditionally are supplied on the bottom of an Invoice for services.  :>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Well anythings possible,but we wont see it in our lifetime. [/quote]

Wouldn't that depend entirely upon how long you expect your lifetime to last? I know for sure there will be many changes before mine expires. :>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:54:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>what does OEM mean?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Tried to respond to this 12 hours ago, but some inadequate windows servers at APC central had other ideas.

OEM stands for Original equipment Manufacturer (In another life i was in OEM sales for a  multi-national).  In its rawest form OEM is sales to another manufacturer. IE Microsoft selling to a box builder.

Generally OEM is sold at a much lower price than retail, the reason being it is assumed the OEM vendor will assume a good proportion of the support cost of the product.

But that is in a perfect world, there is OEM and OEM the prices aid by high street box assemblers will be very different to those paid by say Dell or HP. And the game get even sillier when you get software sold essentially unsupported but in association with a a HDD or stick of RAM.

In short for Joe Public, OEM is the stuff you buy in the white box for the lower price.


[quote=Michael J]i have an oem copy of xp home which i have installed on 4 computers[/quote]


Not much difference ther between an OEM copy and shniny box version. In short you're in breach of the license agreement but your copies still run. The odds of a crach team of the software squad shutting you down are slight, the odds of WGA annoying you are high (odds of WGA annoying you are high for legitamate users too, but thats another issue.)
If your business could be ruined by such actions piracy like this is not likely a risk you'd take however slight the risk.


[quote=Michael J]so, does this mean that with any oem software i would be able to just about anything i like?
[/quote]


No! as explained above. Want more software freedom? Why not consider open source?]]></description>
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			<title>Thankyou APC!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]In your competition's magazine (PC User) it actually benchmarked better than a couple of Linux distros.[/quote]


A couple? Given the asking price wouldn't it be reasonable to expect a massively superior benchmark in all instances?


[quote=Me In Oz]Looks like Linux world domination will just have to wait a little longer[/quote]

Is LWD some kind of new new first person shooter, and will it's delayed release hurt pre-christmas sales?
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:01:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]your best bet with this problem i guess would be to reformat the disk into a file system windows XP recognises, namely NTFS.[/quote]


NTFS? On a floppy? That isn't going to happen, FAT would be the native format.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]also- what was with that message i got earlier?[/quote]

which message was this?


[quote=apt.pupil]moderated forum? where is the moderator?[/quote]

What exactly were you expecting to be moderated, and how quickly did you expect this to happen?


[quote=apt.pupil]what i originally said Raindog was:
[/quote]

What you originally said is listed above unless you edited it.


[quote=apt.pupil]Thats the format name that slipped my memory.[/quote]

?


[quote=apt.pupil]but he is better off using FAT32.[/quote]

On a floppy disk? How is that going to happen?
T quote Microsoft Help and Support "FAT12 is the only format used on floppy diskettes."


[quote=apt.pupil]i will not continue with the rest of what i said-[/quote]

Your choice.


[quote=apt.pupil]it was mostly reminsicing about my floppy disk usage days. now i have it all on flash drives
[/quote]

Floppy disk are mostly obsoleted now, but that does not make getting the technology working any easier. The limitations still apply just as they always did.

In sourcing floppy disk problems some of the common things to look for would be.

- cheap drives often did not have polarising pin on the data cable which allowed it to be inserted incorrectly. The usual symptom of this is the disk LED permanently lit.

- moisture and humidity. The storage medium is essentially rust so is easily damaged by moisture exposure or stray magnetic fields. Odds on most of the stored floppy disks in back room boxes won't read anymore.

Like CDs a disk that cannot be read on one drive will often read on another machine. I did say often, not always.


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]no. i got told i had to wait for a moderator to approve my message in a moderated forum.
when i tried using Opera's history however, it wiped the monologue i wrote[/quote]

Something in the content of your message triggered a moderation review, a URL or a language or spam keyword. Your message should be keyed for review.


[quote=apt.pupil]it has been more than 5 years since i touched a floppy drive, but i swear i can distinctly remember XP supporting FAT32 on the 1.4" floppy disk[/quote]

Swear or recollect all you wish it was not FAT32. While floppy has fallen out of general usage it is not entirely dead, some can suffice themselves with old PCs and more than a few high end test devices and production machines still rely on floppy.


[quote=apt.pupil]you might want to add temperatures above 29 degrees could also get your data corrupted, as is what often happened on mine.[/quote]

<em>Operating Environment. Like the storage environment, the operating temperature range should be 50~F to 125~F (10° to 50°C) with relative humidity between 20% and 80%. Obviously, excessive heat or sunlight are to be avoided.</em> 

You will find its not so much the temperature as the associated humidity. In Qld I've even seen CDs go mouldy.


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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:22:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Chris J]is there a way to do this quickly without it being a MARS project? [/quote]


Do a google search on Pendrive Linux there are tutorials there for Linux and fringe OSs like Windows. While your google searching look for Unetbootin which is probably the easiest way to fire up most common systems.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:42:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nev]Is it possible to change the file system of a vacant partition on a HDD from NTFS to FAT32?[/quote]

sure is.  Just delete and format as Fat32 from within your OS or use a partition manager to do a simple convert. 

Look at  Parted Magic (Freeware) or Ranish Partition manager (freeware) or obtain Partition Magic (commercial). As always reading before clicking, saves lots of data, so does backing up.
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			<description><![CDATA[I'd replied to this before but the vagaries of the APC site appear to have eaten that post.

[quote=Nev]Is it possible to change the file system of a vacant partition on a HDD from NTFS to FAT32?[/quote]

A: = Yes

This can be achieved with some effort from within most OSs or easily using third party applications.

Look for "Parted Magic" or "Ranish Partition Manager" (freeware) or at Partition Magic (commercial) to do the trick.

As always the golden rules apply 

1. read fist click last.
2. Understand what you've read before clicking. read again if necessary.
3. Back up first and don't come looking for sympathy if you have not bothered.


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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 10:09:05 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=The Penguin]Indeed it is not possible to change an NTFS partition to FAT32 without re-formatting the partition.[/quote]

More correctly "it is not possible to change a partition from within the OS. Some of the tools I suggested above will convert a partition on the fly, all the advice regarding data security obviously still apply.


[quote=The Penguin]Because Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions ..........  there is no need to convert the NTFS partition from NTFS to FAT32[/quote]

It would seem this is the best advice, assuming your Ubuntu is an up to date installation.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:33:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=The Penguin]Indeed it is not possible to change an NTFS partition to FAT32 without re-formatting the partition.[/quote]

More correctly "it is not possible to change a partition from within the OS. Some of the tools I suggested above will convert a partition on the fly, all the advice regarding data security obviously still apply.


[quote=The Penguin]Because Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions ..........  there is no need to convert the NTFS partition from NTFS to FAT32[/quote]

It would seem this is the best advice, assuming your Ubuntu is an up to date installation.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:34:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=The Penguin]Indeed it is not possible to change an NTFS partition to FAT32 without re-formatting the partition.[/quote]

More correctly "it is not possible to change a partition from within the OS. Some of the tools I suggested above will convert a partition on the fly, all the advice regarding data security obviously still apply.


[quote=The Penguin]Because Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions ..........  there is no need to convert the NTFS partition from NTFS to FAT32[/quote]

It would seem this is the best advice, assuming your Ubuntu is an up to date installation.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:35:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[dd <--- pointless characters to a blank reply to get this whacko forum system to add a reply window. TM


[quote=The Penguin]Indeed it is not possible to change an NTFS partition to FAT32 without re-formatting the partition.[/quote]

More correctly "it is not possible to change a partition from within the OS. Some of the tools I suggested above will convert a partition on the fly, all the advice regarding data security obviously still apply.


[quote=The Penguin]Because Ubuntu can access NTFS partitions ..........  there is no need to convert the NTFS partition from NTFS to FAT32[/quote]

It would seem this is the best advice, assuming your Ubuntu is an up to date installation.


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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 08:36:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Microsoft Essentials</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Indrulz]Can anyone please tell me if this anti-virus software from Microsoft is a substitute to the commercial anti-virus software ?[/quote]


On the surface it is. But would you trust the company who has been unable to plug the holes in their OS with the task of catching the bad guys. It may not always be in Microsoft's interest to let consumers know what is going.
So whether it's a commercial or an open source anti virus solution, I'd feel a lot more confident with that solution coming from an independent third party.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:40:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Video/Audio Cables</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Kaichallyngouisy]I really impress with your site.[/quote]
[b]I really annoy with you spam!!!  [/b]


At least the failure to grasp even basic English gives plenty of warnings.  

Just a quick reminder folks to never click on links with an unknown origin.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 11:02:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>cooler master hyper tx3 core i5 cooler</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=alimaamoser]i am really impress it.[/quote]


Well be really impress it, somewhere else, mindless illiterate spammer.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:26:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>psoriasis-tablets</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Not the brightest of spammer are you?  With your aim dont even consider standing up to pee.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 13:02:56 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Loud PC Fan</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Yaburi]Does anyone know which fan is making the noise?[/quote]

Well we can narrow it down to either the CPU fan, the PSU fan, GPU fan(if fitted), a case fan (if fitted) or any combination of the above. I can't see or hear it from here. It's possible you can check fan speed from your bios but you should be able to isolate it audibly in less time if the noise is a loud as you say.

Some machines will run fans at full speed for a few seconds at start while systems initialise, but if this was the case the PC would have exhibited this behavior since new.

You need to take the cover off your machine and a little more investigation. A broken fan wont fix itself, but they are cheap and relatively simple to replace with some basic skills. 
The usual mains power warnings apply to opening the power supply best to replace the whole thing or take it to a licensed repairer. (a new PSU will probably be the cheapest option.)
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:23:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Unlocked HTC HERO Android for $320</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]I don't think so. [/quote]


And there were folks thinking that sending funds in $US, sight unseen to some unheard of bunch of jokers with a UK phone number who had ensured all who'd listen that they were legitimate. 

An @gmail address doesn't inspire you with confidence, oh the humanity?

It begs the questions registered with whom and legitimate how?

There sure must be lots of fools about because there are plenty about who are chasing the fool dollar in both legal an illegal ways.

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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:57:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC Oct 08: Go for Green!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Kopper]Lets get some real world results out there  .............  All you need is a power meter from Jaycar[/quote]

And there is your fundamental mistake!  Using an instrument with hopeless accuracy or linearity. While placing your faith in a $40 dollar instrument did you stop to check its specifications accuracy or usable application? Any mention of capacitive or inductive loads? 
Have you considered power factor?

[quote=Kopper]Those numbers do not include the 19” LCD[/quote]

Which is all very convenient to an argument claiming PC power usage is insignificant. (To be fair Vista will not necessarily increase monitor power consumption. Although replacement monitors will likely be of a larger size negating any efficiency gain.)


[quote=Kopper]Now you can see the problem with Stephan’s math. He is claiming my Vista PC here is using 50W extra power than an older XP PC.[/quote]

Well actually I can see more problem in your testing. While a SMPS will not use its full rated power under all circumstances a larger rated supply will draw a higher current at idle. A larger monitor with a larger back-light will draw more current.
A more CPU and disk intensive application will draw more from its power supply than one which achieves the same task with less instructions.


[quote=Kopper]Compare also an old incandescent light bulb. A 75W light bulb is fairly standard, and that one light bulb is using almost as much as your computer, including the LCD.[/quote]

Or more or less depending upon the computer in question.


[quote=Kopper]You can see why the government is so keen to phase these out. [/quote]

Why because their logic is based on ignorance miss-information and flawed assumptions too?
Government interference is based more on being seen to act than on any reasonable management strategy.


[quote=Kopper]they use so much power and there are readily available alternatives that don’t use much power.[/quote]

Oh there are are there? You have a good source of LED oven lights and Compact fluorescent globes for refrigerators do you? The stupidity of ill informed blanket legislation by popularity seeking politicians is that it precludes the option of using the right tool for the right job.
And of course the cost of and energy usage of manufacture was ignored as was the environmental impact of disposal of failed devices laden with toxic materials. 
Factor in the lifespan of heavily switched lamps and you can see another blunder made based on rubbery figures.


[quote=Kopper]A good clue to the power usage of the computer is the amount of heat you can feel coming out of the computer.[/quote]

An established rule of thumb with HVAC design for commercial load is to count each PC as another person when sizing Air conditioning. How much load do you think that is?  Tried running even a modest PC in a closed room 24/7 and observing the temperature change?


[quote=Kopper]The small form factor PCs usually used by business usually have a single 80mm fan with very little heat.[/quote]

Power consumption is a very real consideration for business machines. While the power consumption of such machines is generally less than that of home or games machines that power usage is not inconsiderable.


[quote=Kopper]Home computers use a little more, but I think a lot of PC users would be really surprised just how little they use, even with multiple video cards etc.[/quote]

Home users could be very surprised with what impact their PC have on their power bills particularly those who leave there machines on 24/7 for that instant e-mail or ebay fix. Again Home PCs will use more or less power than a business machine dependant on specification.


[quote=Kopper]but if you want to find out, get yourself a Jaycar power meter and take the measurements[/quote]

Or alternatively use something a little more accurate like a ouija board or better still an accurate and calibrated  KW/hr meter capable of low power readings.


[quote=Kopper]I suppose you can compare it to a cars engine.[/quote]

You can compare it to the Melbourne cup or a sack of oranges too.


[quote=Kopper]The V6 engine used in the Toyota Aurion can produce 200kW, or 200,000 watts.[/quote]

Over what part of this engines rev range can it produce anywhere near that figure? And of course Toyota's marketing team were much less keen to quote figures for torque.


[quote=Kopper]In the real world though, the engine very rarely puts out anything near this.[/quote]

Indeed. 


[quote=Kopper]How much power and therefore fuel used, depends on how you drive it.[/quote]

well not entirely. Factors like final drive ratio and rpm at idle come in to play too.  While driving style has the greatest influence upon fuel usage a careful driver cannot drive beyond the base efficiency of the vehicle.
The current base 6cylinder Falcon (a much heavier vehicle) produces just 5Kw less than the Aurion and offers better fuel consumption  and is able to produce near its maximum power (195Kw) across a much larger portion of its usable rev range. And as I mentioned before do a comparison on the spread of torque.


[quote=Kopper]A computer is similar. A power supply might be rated at 1000 watts. That doesn’t mean the power supply is putting that out all the time[/quote]

But a 1000W peak supply will draw a significantly higher idle current than a lower rated one, there is no escaping that. Relative efficiencies of SMPS has not changed significantly. Even you toy meter should be able to demonstrate that one accurately.

  
[quote=Kopper]That doesn’t mean the power supply is putting that out all the time, it simply means that is how much power is available to the various components. [/quote]

None of what you have suggested goes any way towards supporting any claim that a higher rated PC will not consume more resources, neither has any of this negated the fact that a more demanding OS will require more work (and consequentially power consumption) from available hardware.

Talk to a few engineers who have input into the design of data centres and business facilities. Look at the dilemma currently faced by NSW education searching for a solution to coping with the cooling and power requirement of a classroom full of paltry netbooks.

As for your $40 dollar meter just put that one down to experience, and consider you could have done something positive like plant a tree for the same money. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 09:58:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[MAC address is in the form xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx.  

In Linux use ifconfig, in windows use ipconfig, here's a[url=http://www-dcn.fnal.gov/DCG-Docs/mac/] link[/url] which should help.

Most hardware will also list the MAC address somewhere on the side of the card.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:06:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Which WD  World Book are you talking about?  If your referring to the 500GB MyBook World Edition it uses a 12VDC 4.0A (centre pin +ve) switched mode regulated power pack which requires a bog standard IEC power cord. Possibly some variants used a clover leaf type power cord.

You should be able to source cords from Jaycar, Altronics or most electronics supply shops. You should also be able to source suitable power packs from those if that is what you are missing.
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:22:20 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>My Misspent Youth: Sinclair ZX Spectrum </title>
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			<description><![CDATA[SPAM somewhere else idiot!!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:37:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>newest puma shoes,nike shoes,Air Yeezy,</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=shoes258]welcome to my website ....[/quote]

Welcome to the world of spammer Black-lists ........


[quote=shoes258]feel free to contact us,[/quote]

yeah , just about after hell freezes over ...


[quote=shoes258]ooking forward to cooperate with you.[/quote]

Then cooperate without your spam, deadbeat. 
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:57:44 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>air nike shoes forum </title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=nikede]We are a real supplier of [/quote]

No! What you are is spamming @holes destined for inclusion on worldwide blacklists! Spammer B gone.
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			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:16:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Odds on the connector has suffered a bump or two. They are usually only held onto the base board by the soldered pins.  If that is the case then its a simple fix for a skilled tech to re-solder the joints.

Less easy to fix is poor or burn connection in the centre pin of the power plug. And as GL has suggested try to beg or borrow another power brick and see if the fault is still present.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:27:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Need help for webmaintenance? </title>
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			<description><![CDATA["techsupport.ph" destined for a blacklist near you soon! :>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:49:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Random Freezes</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]Your problem is the integrated video graphics[/quote]

More correctly. His problem could be with integrated graphics. It could also be with any number of other hardware or software or bios problems.

It is a process of elimination tracking down these faults.  While not the greatest of performers integrated video graphics are not necessarily a sure path to system lock-up.
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			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:21:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Tablet pcs</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Raindog hands Dan the secret decoder ring!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:01:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Tablet pcs</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]Keyboards will soon seace(sic) to exist [/quote]

That's a very brave prediction Tim! Nothing in Windows 7 goes any way toward replacing the keyboard as the primary text input device.  
The touch technology at times offers convenience but what does it proposing for real input.

Replacing the keyboard is as simple as replacing the internal combustion engine. All you have to do is come up with a more efficient alternative technology.

  
[quote=tim2hawkes]but why is evryone focused on getting the newest tech that will be outdated in a month for the surface compting will be a soon reality so why waste money[/quote]

Why buy anything then, when next years model will likely be superior. I don't want to diminish your excitement for new functionalities, but it appears your expectations are generations ahead of what will be the soon to be shipped reality.
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:32:19 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[A time when you'll never need to plug a keyboard into to your mirror or table again , could well be feasible in the immediate future.

Not entirely the demise of the keyboard as we know it, however. As I stated above all you need to do to pension off keyboards is come up with a better alternative.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:58:54 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Opinion on parts</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]How very rude answer![/quote]

No not rude at all!
You were thanked for your input, an explanation was given why a particular course of action was taken. 


[quote=Halcon]You ask for some advice and then you don't even think what is best for you.[/quote]

Advice is just that. There is no pre-requisite that advice from anyone must be followed to the letter. As an advisor you are at best guessing what will be the best course of action for the author of the question. don't assume you always have the best answer for others! You don't! 

[quote=Halcon]If your computer is old then there is no gains for upgrading with new parts.[/quote]

Rubbish! There are countless considerations with this, besides it is up to interpretation on what is old and what level of upgrade is possible/practical.


[quote=Halcon]It's up to you to decide what you want do with your machine, so I don't care what you should do now.[/quote]

That's right! It's totally the OP's decision, so why get your y-front s in an accusatory spasm? The only rudeness in this thread has been your own.


[quote=Halcon]I would buy that and forget the upgrade.[/quote]

Well you do that. The OP is free to choose his own course of action.


[quote=Halcon]And if you think you are after "knowledgeable opinions" and you brand others as amateurs, then you are a complete ignorant.[/quote]

The OP does not think he is seeking knowledgeable, he knows that is what he is seeking. 
As for the branding of amateur, could I suggest lack of basic sentence structure and coherent communication goes a long way towards giving that impression.
The OP has given consideration to all options offered he is not the one behaving in an ignorant manner


[quote=Halcon]DO NOT OFFEND ANYONE WITH [/quote]

The only offence being generated in this thread has been your own, with your unfounded accusations of rudeness and ignorance!


[quote=Halcon]AT LEAST BE POLITE AND WEIGHT UP YOUR OPTIONS,[/quote]

The OP was polite! The OP did weigh up the advice given to him. Your particular advice was not his best match! Get over yourself!


[quote=Halcon]IS THE UPGRADE WORTH TO DO OR NOT?[/quote]

Worth to do?  Any decision on the merit or not of upgrading remains with the OP.



[quote=Halcon]is all what you need. [/quote]

Please stop this senseless torture of the English language! And please consider what is right for you is not necessarily right for everyone else. Your outbursts and accusations were not called for.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:35:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]I need help deciding on a new 3g device
got any ideas [/quote]


Perhaps providing some indication of what you are trying to do or trying to achieve would give people a clue towards what advice to offer.

Touch screens, 3G, Vista, Win7, Windows mobile, what are you trying to build and what do you want it to do? ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 10:54:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Tablet pcs</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]just a decent smartphone [/quote]


OK. That's a fair deviation from the thread title Tablet PCs, you'll have a lot more to choose from in upmarket touch phones.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:03:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]its the way I roll [/quote]

Try rolling towards the concepts of basic Indexing and related topic headings. You'd be much more likely to get answers and you'd waste a lot less of other peoples time. If your after a feature comparison of giggle phones why not say so within the appropriate sub-forum?
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:22:35 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Fingerprint reader</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[google microgram]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:43:11 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Windows Boot Problem</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=www.datumit.com.au]DatumIT.com.au, they will [/quote]


I don't know about what they will, but what they SHOULD do is contact ACP and discuss advertising rates. 

As an important aside I'd suggest that anyone be extremely wary of any business which does not disclose a street address and fixed line phone number on their website, particularly one that only accepts COD.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[XP wont have any problems supporting a 250Gb drive, but check that your motherboard can support it. You may need to flash a bios update.

For free software try [url=http://partedmagic.com/]Partedmagic[/url] this will allow you to copy and re-size your partitions.

You may find your XP objects when WGA finds the new hardware so make sure you have all the valid licenses etc.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]At least networking is a strong point in My World (LAN Gaming) ![/quote]


strong point? Your funny! made my day.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]All of us computer users are 'time rich'.[/quote]


And how did you glean this gem?


[quote=Me In Oz]It's part of becoming computer savvy.[/quote]

Whilst gaining expertise can be time consuming, consuming time does not necessarily deliver expertise.


[quote=Me In Oz]I was coding with Basic, Fortran and Cobol since the early 80's and have played around with most kernels and codes etc. [/quote]

Well bully for you!  I can quote a similar time-frame of gainful employment which serves no purpose to the debate.


[quote=Me In Oz]I don't feel MS products are as bad as people make out[/quote]

A viewpoint your entitled to express, but on what basis do you make the statement. I deliver MS based solutions for more circumstances than I'd offer Linux. I'd seldom suggest a MAC, but that does not declare Apple as poor, or Linux as time consuming or Windows as a universal solution.

What is clear is that MAC is offering incremental improvements, Linux is growing and evolving like wildfire, and MS is stuck in a lets revise the GUI again holding pattern.

MS offers a clear lead in its depth of supported hardware, but has now seen fit to break that with its new releases.  MS is trying to deny the market access to the version of its OS they would currently prefer, that is nothing short of commercial suicide.

 


[quote=Me In Oz]And at least you have admitted having access to 'alternative' pc's ![/quote]

I hate to burst your bubble here but this isn't inquisition by fan-boys. People can run what that damn well want.  All this admission stuff you want to bandy about is childish nonsense and detracts from any form of sensible debate.


[quote=Me In Oz]All the others do too, it's their ego won't let them admit it ;)[/quote]

Where as your ego and desire to express bucket-loads of stupid, refuses to consider others may have something valuable to offer.  If you prefer to run your games on a PC well good for you, be happy. But don't kid yourself that it's a one size fits all solution and don't be so ignorant as to assume your narrow usage and insular opinions are the perfect fit for others.

There is no right answer! The topic opens a place for sensible debate on Linux usage not somewhere for a chest beating exercise for fan boys of any persuasion 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]You .............![/quote]


Your little hobby is due for an abrupt end!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]When i read this i almost choked on my coffee[/quote]


sigh

 
[quote=NetR@nger]its a windows world mate,deal with it[/quote]


It is? When did this happen?  I don't think Aubrey is the one with issues to deal with.



[quote=NetR@nger]If u want to go through your computing life with a broken leg that's fine,in fact ill wave at u every time i pass you.[/quote]

If you want to live life from a position of ignorance then the rest of us will pity you.



[quote=NetR@nger]I have kids and there is no way i will allow them to learn a[/quote]

And in one fell swoop you demonstrate unbridled ignorance? Denying children knowledge is akin to child abuse. If you wish to remain ignorant that's fine but why inflict that same stupidity on children.


[quote=NetR@nger]Im sick and tired of [/quote]

I'm sick and tired of ignorant narrow minded fan-boys capable of nothing more than mere consumption.



[quote=NetR@nger]tryhards telling everybody that[/quote]


It seems your the one busy telling everybody what to think. Pull your head in and respect that opinions outside your own narrow sphere have validity.



[quote=NetR@nger]I want to give my kids the best chance i can at life[/quote]

Then best you stop trying to censor what they see and learn. Maybe even let them learn from people who know what they are talking about.



[quote=NetR@nger]and like it or not--that means learning WINDOWS. [/quote]

Learning what exactly? How to run applications. Get a clue man! Education in information technology should extend a little further than how to run brand X. The concept of computers in schools is not just to teach kids how to log on to facebook. Any education in computing that ignores NIX operating systems is not an education at all.  

Do your kids a favour and let them learn from educated people. Allow them to make their own decisions!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]you just cant help yourself,can u(sic)[/quote]

No I feel driven to point out pig ignorance at every turn.


[quote=NetR@nger]I'm well aware[/quote]

From your last post its doubtful you'd know what day it is.


[quote=NetR@nger]what i or anyone else says[/quote]

I was referring to your ignorance not the ignorance of others.


[quote=NetR@nger]your either to(sic) gutless or to(sic) stupid to be corrected[/quote]

Appears a little self correction (and a whole mess load of self restraint) are in order in your corner.


[quote=NetR@nger]Another thing[/quote]

if you must


[quote=NetR@nger] i know you[/quote]

wrong



[quote=NetR@nger] and deal with you on a regular basis,[/quote]

hardly


[quote=NetR@nger]and i know exactly what kind of a man you are.[/quote]

 do you know tonight's lotto numbers too?  You and your guesses do not have a clue.


[quote=NetR@nger]Think hard[/quote]

I've always made thinking a habit, you should try it sometime, it would stop you racing in and making a fool of yourself trying to shout others down with your narrow minded outlook. 

I'd continue the debate if I thought you had anything to say, but you do not.  Try knowing what your talking about next time before you start having a go at reasonable suggestions made by others. Now shush!!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Be careful mate,very careful. [/quote]


I'm not your mate!   Go threaten one of them!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]Im(sic) only 14 and I run everything windows[/quote]


not much more to add to that really.


[quote=tim2hawkes]ITs what you learn with[/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]I wasn't threatening you[/quote]

funny that, particularly considering you added an similar threat to your reply.


[quote=NetR@nger]there is a lineup of people here that would gladly strangle you before i got to you.[/quote]

A line-up of noisy fan boys hell bent on shouting down others. meh, so what.


[quote=NetR@nger]I'm not going to continue with this[/quote]

Good !!!!  Are you not going to continue having a go at other people too?


[quote=NetR@nger]Oh,and by the way-what i said is true[/quote]

No what you said was an unfounded attack on another contributor who had put forward a reasonable considered and polite contribution.


[quote=NetR@nger]making us all piss ourselves[/quote]

your incontinence is neither of concern or interest to others.


[quote=NetR@nger]where have you heard or seen the words NETRANGER before???[/quote]

On the side of your billy cart perhaps?


[quote=NetR@nger],ill(sic) have to spell it out in a way you will not appreciate.
[/quote]

I didn't appreciate your unfounded attack on someone who had something reasonable to say, so any further input from you would be little surprise.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]And neither has APC ![/quote]

back to try and run the show again are we P210?


[quote=plutonium210]..   is the reason that stories on this popular site only receive about 2 or 3 comments.
[/quote]

And why not add a personal attack too!  
Two or three comments are much better than a plethora of your "Windows suck - Get an Apple" gems.   

Report lodged!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]Lets finish this NOW[/quote]

OK you start first.


[quote=tim2hawkes]Windows runs the world no doubt about it [/quote]

It does when did that happen? And indeed it is in contravention of Windows own conditions of use.  Have you ever looked into what most of your Internet is running on?  Ever looked at what OSs Industrial computers tend to run on? Embedded computers even? 


[quote=tim2hawkes]Retarded people have everything linux do you[/quote]

If you must make ignorant comment can you do so without being offensive too!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]but even the staunchest MS hater [/quote]

You are quite a few hundred years too late for the crusades. The sooner you can accept it's not a competition the sooner you'll actually learn something.


[quote=Your Average Joe]And lets face it, even the Linux distros have included and produced more eye candy for their distros in the last 5 years.[/quote]

And your point is?  You can get Linux in command line distros too, or any other number of variants. With windows it's like it or lump it.


[quote=Your Average Joe]So hey ! Lets give a little kudos to Bill and Co. when it is deserved.[/quote]

You can have all the Kudos you can eat. But no amount of Kudos will in anyway remove merit from other offerings.


[quote=Your Average Joe]you maybe free of Windows Aubrey but you cannot escape using in this 'Windows World'.[/quote]

DO you have any idea just how contradictory your statement is?
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Gee ! Now I'm really scared ![/quote]

No what you are experiencing is ignorance.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Every geeky IT nerd has screwed around with some sort of Linux.[/quote]

But how many have built their own distro, heavily modified a distro?  That was the question posed!


[quote=Your Average Joe]I'll stick with a 'Windows World' for gaming ![/quote]

That's nice for you and for your narrow field of interest.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Hardware drivers have always been, and will always be, the bane of Linux. [/quote]

That depends entirely on what hardware you are talking about. In many instances Linux offers more comprehensive support. The lack of drivers for some Giga-Blaster mega Fast G93740 graphics card are hardly a damning indictment on what Linux offers.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Don't even think about LAN/Internet gaming on a Linux rig[/quote]

Again it may be a revelation to you, but many people are not considering such things. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]What really is the difference between learning to use the web via firefox or seamonkey rather than IE?[/quote]

Do we really nead to be teaching how to run/load/use applications at schools? Most of this has become a life skill akin to breathing. 
Maybe some remedial courses for the criminally deprived, but aren't there more stimulating things to learn? Most kids will have a bigger, faster, (Redder) computer at home and will have probably been piloting a mouse since they were in nappies?

All I hear is mention of how to run applications, that is hardly education in computers.
If computers in schools is how to run a web browser, or set the margins in Word (Write) then we are really selling our kids short.  That isn't education it's baby-sitting.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]For any teachers out there - do schools actually teach Windows (Regedit, batch scripting, ctrl-alt-delete, etc.)?[/quote]

Boy have we missed the boat(opportunity) if this is all that is being taught.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]and why would you even try[/quote]


Hi Tim, you said in a prior post "But it was fun and interesting" that is reason enough for a start. It's a very staid old world if all we do is take what [insert manufacturer of choice] dishes up.
You can learn lots and you can modify as little as your game to or as much as you dare to.

Open source brings the focus back to the user and the community, most of the projects and apps that exist are there because someone saw a challenge, thought they'd give it a go, and along the way enlisted the support of others with a similar interest.

If LAN/Internet gaming is your particular thing there is nothing stopping those applications from being developed. And trust me creating, modifying or betting something is a lot more rewarding than just running some corporations code.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]apart from the fact that we dont have the time to compile code [/quote]


We all get the same amount of time per day. People with children and demanding jobs and those running their own businesses still have the time to cut great code. It's more a matter of how you choose to use your time. 
How many gamers and application operators do you think will actually make a mark on our computing landscape? It's not that those past-times are wrong its more a matter of perspective balance and ambition.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Do you realise how inane your comments are ?[/quote]

Pot, Kettle Black!



[quote=Your Average Joe]Funny, I thought I was replying to Aubrey.[/quote]

This is a public forum. It's not your personal reply system. So what you were replying to Aubrey, I made comment towards your reply.



[quote=Your Average Joe]But I guess once a thread jacker, always a thread jacker ![/quote]

Listen take your whining, and fan boy ranting somewhere else, if you have on topic comments make them, but keep your bitterness, your fan boy chanting and your disrespect for others to yourself.  [b]Others can contribute in a reasonable manner, why can't you?
[/b] 

What possible right do you have to attack Aubreys conviction to do his computing Windows free? Wake up to yourself!


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]What possible right do you have to presume it was an attack ?[/quote]


your inclusion of terms like MS-hater for a start.



[quote=Your Average Joe]Funny how you consider everyone else's replies as attacks[/quote]

not everyones, not everyone has your track record.

Oh and next time you want to have a go at me for commenting your reply to someone else take a look at some of your own posts. Or do you not wish to live up to your own standards?

Take your bitterness somewhere else, this thread does not need it and the Mods do not need the work of removing these posts!

To jog your memory the Topic was about Linux in schools not the settling of scores or outpouring of bitterness.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]are you retarded [/quote]

Can you restrain yourself from the personal attacks? If you cannot reply to a comment reasonably then do not comment!

[quote=tim2hawkes]no one I know of [/quote]

Well that would hardly be a representative sample! You'd be surprised to know how many systems and devices including new devices still use a DOS core. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]and do you[/quote]

Do I what?

Know of a lot of systems that use a DOS core? The answer is yes?

Do I use DOS in current systems? Yes one product line I use runs from an embedded DOS core.


The point I was trying to make is there are a lot of valid OS options out there. Linux hold a well established place, as does MAC and of course Windows. There are a lot more uses and applications out there than plain vanilla desktops, and even in this space there are lots of perfectly valid and often used non windows options.

Computer education in schools should be covering a lot more than GUI desktops.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=JTech Studios]If there a good Linux distro that is easy to set up as a server for a home network[/quote]

I take it you are looking for something for Windows workstations. Take a look at [b]SME server[/b]. I've set up several of these as home server/gateways with no complaints. 

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Download
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]Oh and RAINDOG watch this[/quote]

Already watched it Tim, very inspirational! A good thing to show students what could be possible. But what about the here and now. Education is about empowering students with knowledge.
To achieve all these future visions someone has to do the dirty work, some one has to cut the code, someone has to develop the silicon, the HMI interfaces etc.

Whats to say those future visions will be from Microsoft and wont be from Linux or Apple, or General Motors, Sony or  some players that don't even exist yet?
And for any of those corporations to achieve the vision they need educated and innovative people with open minded attitudes towards computing.

Education is not about running programs! If our countries education does not begin empowering students to develop then we are doomed to be a nation of consumers. 

To not explore all available and all emerging technologies in education, is a sure fire way to produce a second rate education. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]Can you please post an update? I'm interested to know what path you took[/quote]

Ditto that.   While I'm in no way specifically referring to the OP of this thread, I'd like to ask that those who pose these kind of questions could take the time to post some follow-ups. The feedback benefits prior and future contributors, and adds another valuable opinion to the mix.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[All fish live in the sea. Carp are fish, so by your logic all fish are carp. (MP)

The Audi motor car is a know favorite of criminals, should we have all Audis crushed and will this reduce crime?

The good majority of malware is Windows code, would we not be better to embark on a program to remove all copies of Windows? (Microsoft management however are having some success with at this end.)

Your linking is bizzare indeed, clever people will generally utilise the best tools, but I'd love to know how you've come up with this random and tenuous linkage?

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Argurios].........and I'll tell you now that there is no way that Linux will be put into schools ..........because most of my fellow teachers DO NOT like any change no matter how small. [/quote]

I'm sorry Argurios but I have some real problems with some of your statements, they reduce education to some sort of commodity delivered in bulk, by those with a like it or lump it attitude. (and in saying that I am not just being critical of front line teachers, I see narrow minded, incompetent and self serving politician and bureaucrats equally representative in this mentality of dumbing down the masses.)


[quote=Argurios]1. We use a lot of old computers and hardware and imagine having to get drivers for all that hardware. We also have over the years spent thousands of dollars on software which will NOT run on Linux machines![/quote]

While I can understand that an investment in Win32 software needs to be maximised, it ignores the availability of a plethora of open source equivalent options. An open mind towards software available from the public domain would ease the financial burden on scarce teaching resources for both staff and students. Education is about comprehending concepts and knowing how to select and utilise available tools, it is not just retention of the keystrokes for market popular software.

The reality in regard to drivers is that many of your older computer will be better served for Linux drivers than by Windows. Open source has no vested interest in obsoleting hardware to help flog off new versions of a program or OS. (Microsoft's deliberate incompatibility of older windows versions and its application of hardware restrictions to Netbook licensing confirms my assertion.) 


[quote=Argurios]2. Teachers on the whole are very conservative and over 90%++ run Windows in their homes and expect the same at school. [/quote]

That's a pretty damning assessment of those delivering education at the coal face. If you always do what you've always done how do you see you'll ever achieve better results? Isn't education about learning? And shouldn't learning be advantageous to teachers, parents, staff and the general community as well as students? Apparently not!


[quote=Argurios]3. They are not very computer literate even in the Windows world.
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But many of their students are? When did education become a one way delivery mechanism? If computers in schools consists of monotone delivery from persons lacking enthusiasm and expertise in the subject why are we bothering at all? Kevin's big spend on his toolboxes of the 21st century may just as well have well been spent on wet weather school bus stops, if these are the prevailing attitudes.

  
[quote=Argurios]4. Teachers main job is to teach there priority is not to go out and learn all about a new operating system and different programs.[/quote]

How can you teach if you are not prepared to learn? 

I'm sorry but that one really sticks in the craw. Learning isn't about a transfer of a finite block of pre-packaged and out of date information, it is about instilling the ability in students to seek acquire and comprehend information. If a teacher does not want to learn any more, he should consider a sea change to horticulture, or something far less stressful. (shrubs and seedlings seldom spit, swear or answer back and are far better behaved) Human Learning shouldn't stop till they plant you in the ground!  
Teaching MSword and MSpowerpoint to tertiary students who taught themselves far more advanced concepts years ago is nothing more than child minding and wasted opportunity for everyone concerned.


[quote=Argurios]5. Most are comfortable in using XP because they still use that at home.
The department even doesn't feel most teachers can handle a change to Vista or Office 2007 let a totally unfamiliar operating environment and programs.[/quote]

Most are probably only confident with 4 function math, should we restrict the syllabus to those too? If the department and the staff are all working together to keep school education to the lowest common denominator then I'd like to see the minimum age for apprenticeships lowered to 11. At least for the most part tradesmen go out of their way to teach their charges and equip them to self sufficiency.


[quote=Argurios]6. We all help one another and imagine if Linux was suddenly dropped onto us. We wouldn't know how to get a printer operating or fix the small issues which now at least some one on staff can do. Schools do not have techies on hand even now. We muddle on as best we can.[/quote]

Help one another with what? Excuses? Linux hasn't been suddenly dropped anywhere, it has existed and evolved for years and its origins are as established as anything else out there. Learning should encompass all available options? Or has learning now become simple retention?
Your argument regarding schools techies just illustrates my despair with the prevailing attitudes. Where do those techies learn? Does education just cease because our schools can't afford some modern day magician who fixes printers? There is a whole world of information, education and support sitting out there just waiting to be used? Wouldn't education in computing be instilling the idea of student help thy self? 
Shouldn't the aims be towards teaching students to equip themselves and to fluently share and convey their learning with others?  
How can you claim "muddling on as best we can" when a whole universe of educational resource is simply being ignored? That is not "as best we can"!

 
[quote=Argurios]It is a complete joke to imagine ....... schools suddenly being told we are going to use Linux. [/quote]

It's not a matter of being told a winner, to restrict education to any operating system is to simply rob the opportunity to educate. Thankfully a good few students are prepared to educate and empower themselves. If we were relying on the education model you are describing entire generations are being short changed.


[quote=Argurios]There would be an uproar and I for one would be very angry.[/quote]

Why? Because you'd have to learn? As a teacher you should want to learn every day? As human beings we should all want to learn, learning is what got us to the top of the food chain. Any person who has stopped learning you may as well chuck it all in? What would be  the point in continuing without learning? Do teachers sign a declaration of cessation of learning on the day of graduation?


[quote=Argurios]I have never used Linux and I have not the time to try to "learn" it.[/quote]

It's just as well learned folk of our species didn't have a similar attitude to fire or the wheel, someone took the time to master those and we never looked back.

  
[quote=Argurios]I couldn't suddenly tell my wife who is even less confident around computers we are ditching Windows at home and going Linux because that is what I now use at school!! [/quote]

Why? When did learning require dumping one narrow way of doing things for another. Where did the concept evolve that to learn a new operating system or programming language involve removing all traces of others. The scary thing is not just a knowledge of computing but the idea that learning itself and the institutions that purvey it see education as transfer of a finite block of answers and information.
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			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply Argurios, believe it or not we may well have taken on board some of your issues, so I will reply some clarification of my own.

[quote=Argurios]We as teachers do not have to move to Linux to teach better. [/quote]

That depends on what you are teaching, and upon whether you are referring to Computers in Schools as a subject in itself or merely as a teaching resource. The student and community expectation is certainly that education in computing is available within the syllabus. And any education based on a single stream of Manufacturers product is wholly inadequate.


[quote=Argurios]I work a long week and I am a dedicated teacher in a primary school. I teach eight year olds! I teach long hours (over 60 hours)and get good results.[/quote]

Yeah, yeah, yeah the over-worked teacher. Well I'm sorry but welcome to the real world, you wont get much sympathy from me or any other small business operator or salary slaves of our fair nation. 
It may be a complete surprise to the teaching body but most professionals are working similar or longer hours. And do remember that they are lucky to get at maximum two weeks of paid holiday. I'm not saying you don't work long dedicated hours but so does almost every other professional, so get over it.


[quote=Argurios]It is not as if we are not teaching computing or not getting the kids to think but we can do all that in the Window's world. [/quote]

How can you be adequately be teaching computing if you are leaving out a massive chunk of it? You cannot! 
Several generations of US teaching adequately taught geography to the extents of  the US border, and we all know what the results of that was.


[quote=Argurios]My classroom has 10 up to date Dell computers running XP. We use MS Office 2003 but we also do a lot of online stuff.[/quote]

Many would argue straight away that running XP is way out of date. And while I do not agree that XP is out of date I have to be concerned with the emphasis on MS office. The resources you have can easily be configured to run Windows AND alternate operating systems. 


[quote=Argurios]Over the last couple of years our students have made movies using MovieMaker about the solar system, (they had to compare all the planets and decide which planet could support life). They narrated these and used appropriate music as a backdrop. We have done claymations and other types of animations, they regularly use PowerPoints for deliverings projects, we use digital and movie cameras images in our work.
Our students use learning objects, demonstrate skills using the interactive whiteboard and regulary are doing individual or small group work using computers/headphones. We are a very modern interactive classroom.[/quote]

All very clever and valuable stuff, it's heartening to see the adaption of modern tools by students and them gaining a familiarity with the PC as something other than a child minding games console. But why limit the available range of tools utilised? Doing so is limiting the learning and creativity of students, and is helping foster the closed minded attitudes we see between those taught  solely on Macs vs those taught solely on PCs.

 
[quote=Argurios]Also we do use open source software as well. We use audacity, irfanView, Wikipedia and a lot of the google software and programs.[/quote]

That's great it's better utilisation of the scarce educational dollar. But why the limits of a Windows platform? The modern day equivalent of hunter gatherer tribe who would never look or speak to those who lived on the other side of the hill.


[quote=Argurios]Your arguments about using Linux are no better than mine for using Windows.[/quote]

But your wrong! Very wrong. My argument was not insular, where did I suggest you must run Linux as an alternative? I did not! I suggested that ONLY teaching Windows and the use of Windows application was wholly inadequate! Where did we suggest windows was to be dumped? We did not! 

My assertion was that teaching of computing without other operating systems was wholly inadequate, and that refusing to utilise Linux resources was robbing teachers and students of a whole range of opportunity.
By example, Open Office would more than adequately substitute for MS office (on both windows and Linux) at a zero spend. Just to adopt that would have left a lot of Dollars to improve those computer to student ratios. That is just one example. Learning on Open Office will still equip students with the skills to use MS Office. Why a mixed environment is so abhorrent to any educator simply beggars belief.


[quote=Argurios]I have not got the time to change everything over to linux to suit a particular hobby group because I can do the job well using Windows. Can you understand that? [/quote]

At this point your argument becomes offensive! Hobby Group indeed? Sorry but I do this stuff for a living.

That statement demonstrates an absolute and well ingrained ignorance! 
Ever considered how all those web-sites you teach the kiddies to click to are put together? Get yourself a little more familiar with what is serving those up to your comfortable little Windows world. You clearly do not have a clue and I hope to heck you are not instilling such ignorance in your charges.


[quote=Argurios]Can you understand that? [/quote]

I work in a computing environment and I select the appropriate tool for the job. I don't choose a more expensive tool through laziness or bias. I do not select an open source tool that will inadequately replace a commercial equivalent. I have an open mind.
My own school education in computing was wholly inadequate as are those for children of current generations. 

I abhor insular and ignorant attitudes,  I cannot understand those who do not wish to learn or to find new possibilities and I find it tragic that it such ignorance has permeated our education system! 

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]I'll go out on a limb here and say that in many situations with site licenses & CALS already purchased, it would be a somewhat pointless exercise to simply replace existing Windows or OSX installs with linux to somehow save money.[/quote]

I'd agree with you to some degree although it's something that needs to be considered at upgrade time. With Windows you will keep on paying as you migrate through versions, many organisations have upon considering these costs (and they are substantial costs) have migrated to no Windows operating systems.

[quote=AndyCee]What would ensue is all the hassle of a Windows rollout minus the risk of malware or the cost of licencing. [/quote]

what would happen is the cost and disruption of any rollout, ongoing operation can integrate with both Windows and non Windows hardware. Its a common myth that learning curve for Linux is
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=JTech Studios]Hi, I'm thinking of using some Linux apps (I'm using Ubuntu 9.04) to help make my computer into a home server, mainly file sharing, accessing it's desktop from my network and streaming/accessing media from other computers.[/quote]

Is there any reasons you are fixed to Ubuntu server? Nothing against it, and for file serving it should be fine, but given you appear to still have a fairly broad sphere of possibilities for your server, I'd suggest looking at other distributions too. 

For SOHO and small business file sharing, web serving, firewall etc, I generally use SME server, its rock solid, easy for newbies to use, and covers all the business essentials backup etc. It is however fairly rigid in its architecture requiring a lot of work for add ons not already prepared as a contribution.

Amahi looks good for a home setup and has a good collection of streaming and media sharing modules. I'm still to try out a lot of them. Media sharing isn't my area of expertise, but I am getting a lot of request so it's catch up time.

For NAS look at openfiler and freenas

for firewalls pfsense, monowall, smoothwall, ipcop, and untangle (not all Linux)

for Linux media try mythTV, firefly and jinzora

What you will find is many of the better Linux packages used in these builds will feature and be customised into other builds, look around and find the one that fits and use that as a base, or if after looking you still wish to go the Ubuntu server path take not of the packages you like within the other builds, many will have source for ubuntu ready to go.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=hunter]Surely then, under those circumstances, it would be best to sellect a Linux based OS as there would be no licences required, no financial outlay for software, and the option of support if required.[/quote]

I'd like to see Linux included in education butr I don't think the answer education wise is Linux only. I do agree and other have made the point too that adoption of Linux could stretch many tight budgets.

There is more than one way to solve most tasks and it would be helpful for students to be exposed to and to understand the differences.

A better exposure to all the predominant OSs would better equip students to make sensible comparitive evaluations rather than having them bound up in a one company mode of thinking. 

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			<description><![CDATA[Finding the perfect Linux build is like finding the perfect car, it does not exist, just like their are sports cars, econo boxes, and utilities their are Linux builds tailored to suit specific patters of use.

[quote=Kryogenix]are these different versions of the same program (service pack style)[/quote]

They are different constructs of the same operating system,



[quote=Kryogenix]are they different things all together (XP, Vista, Win7)[/quote]


Linux builds offer a much wider scope than say windows, you can select build to suit your specific needs. You can get command line only builds for in intensive tasks on low power hardware, you can get graphicly rich versions, server versions, version pitched towards education or very young users as just a few examples.


[quote=Kryogenix]Also is there any specific bonus to having one distro over another?[/quote]

The bonus is having a version specifically tailored to your needs rather than having a feature set thrust on you by a manufacturer. The challange is seeking out the feature set that best meets your own needs.

By example I use some Ubuntu and Mandriva boxes amongst a sea of windows boxes for desktops. I SmeServer boxes for SOHO and small business servers and use Red Hat and Centos boxes for more demanding server applications. For firewall and router builds I use both Linux and BSD (OS like Lixux) appliance builds.

It's unlikely you will find a Linux build that exactly matches every need you have but you will usually find builds that come close with a bit of searching. 
The real win with Linux is that hood isn't welded shut, and you are encouraged to modify builds and applications to suit your needs and share those modifications with others.


 




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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=AndyCee]For our home viewers out there, don't ever copy a command that ends with "> /dev/sda<number>" unless you know what you're doing.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]In accordance with the Government's commitment to efficiency[/quote]

Too funny!!  

It's confounding that when refering to DOS attacks Labor seldom gets a mention. In just 18 months their efforts have far surpassed anything coming from backrooms in eastern europe. What's even more confounding is the number of dreamers about that see this as a good thing, and will continue doing so until the realisation they've been worked over has sunken in. :>

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]based on long-term poll trends[/quote]

Only a Canberran would give credence to such nonsense, trending that supposedly tells all and yet is incapable of predicting small details like say the GFC.


[quote=Aubrey]and the fact that there will now be no viable alternative for at least[/quote]

A viable alternative exists and has always existed, its called common sense.



[quote=Aubrey]On historic trends[/quote]

The claptrap thats refferred to when not referring to the claptrap of long-term poll trends.


[quote=Aubrey]PM Gillard [/quote]

That would sure as hell inspire an upward trend in the ownership of firearms.


[quote=Aubrey]after a transfer of power a year into the current PM's third-term.[/quote]

As if that self serving ferret would a) be able to continue his his path of destruction for a decade and b) be able to act in the interests of anyone other than himself.


[quote=Aubrey]I'll also predict that the next Conservative PM is not yet in Parliament. [/quote]

Weren't you getting all your information from those shopping centre vox-polls and telephone surveys of the chronically lonely?


[quote=Aubrey]On the plus side, I can tell you that the end of a long incumbency by a government you hate is such a blessed relief[/quote]

What you cannot tell is why you hated them, unlike the whining you'll go in with once you work how much that $900 is actually going to cost you.


[quote=Aubrey]that you will feel good about it for years and years[/quote]

well for 3 to six years as a most likely period, though the odds of the mass bewhildered waking up to themselves about year four is on the cards. You can claim low unemployment untill the cows come home but when the teenager on sofa count is up there long term even Canberrans can catch on to the manipulation of figures.


[quote=Aubrey]blessed relief[/quote]

Something that all to often involves an alter boy and court action in a future decade.


[quote=Aubrey]and will forgive the replacement almost anything[/quote]

Bucket loads of feel good forgiveness, idealism for all, righ up till the time they catch on that it's affecting personal wealth. Idealism gets cast off pretty damn quick upon the realism it has to be funded by the idealist and not from a now bankrupt future fund.


[quote=Aubrey]even making a complete goose their Minister for Communication[/quote]

Too true! but it could be worse there is a vast poll of elected geese and nodders to choose from and lots of unions hacks baying fot their turn at a big spend of other peoples money.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]What we are suffering now is[/quote]

And suffering it we sure are . just a good many are too stupid to realise yet.


[quote=Aubrey]and the last three years of Howard reached the lowest lows[/quote]

yeah that low unemployment, record national savings and sound economy had to be stopped didn't it.


[quote=Aubrey]that I don't work for, or anywhere near, the current NSW government.
[/quote]

its the same union driven labor as there is in Canberra, just as its the same Ms Gillard that saw one M. Latham as the country's future just a few years ago. 
Its curious Ms Gillards "a vote for John Howard was a vote for PM Costello" is somehow not transposed to "a vote for kevin is a vote nasel strainings".  She stands for nothing other than her fear of those opposite, as for running a country not a clue, and the company she keeps aren't likely to have one either. 

If voters are silly enough to not realise what's good for Murdoch may not be so good them, and wish to indentify with feel good deceptions, then they deserve the fate that awaits them.   

 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Clayman]Are Howard and Gillard distros? [/quote]


What you haven't seen those yet?


Howardnix is a conservative build reliable and far from the cutting edge. It is based a rock solid menzies core and is the distro of choice for business systems that cannot fail.

Gillardnix is a real chameleon one day it is pretending it's a windows clone, next day it Mac. Gillardnix purports to be an OS for the people but those installing it find out that despite some free offers early in release it ends becoming a expensive beyond belief.

Abbotnix is an OS with a religious bent, an offshoot of christian linux, it has a special partition to exclude its business code from the moral dictates of its GUI.

Ruddnix is a real resoursce hog, while it promises much and is supposedly tailored to run best on "the toolbox of the 21st century", it soon is able to suck dry the resources of even the most capable machine.  Like Gillardnix, Rudnix is peddled under a cloud of rumour claiming it must be loaded because the other OSs have had a good run.

Lasty we have Conroynix, which turns out to be nothing but vapourware, it's an OS based entirely on guesswork and as yet has had no code actually struck. Expert analysis has shown that by the anticipated release date of Conroynix, it is likely to be unnaffordable, incompatible and almost a decade behind it's competitiors. Despite these detailed predictions, the enthusiam and quests for photo opportunities of its founders have not waned.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Clayman]Are Howard and Gillard distros? [/quote]


What you haven't seen those yet?


Howardnix is a conservative build reliable and far from the cutting edge. It is based a rock solid menzies core and is the distro of choice for business systems that cannot fail.

Gillardnix is a real chameleon one day it is pretending it's a windows clone, next day it Mac. Gillardnix purports to be an OS for the people but those installing it find out that despite some free offers early in release it ends becoming a expensive beyond belief.

Abbotnix is an OS with a religious bent, an offshoot of christian linux, it has a special partition to exclude its business code from the moral dictates of its GUI.

Ruddnix is a real resoursce hog, while it promises much and is supposedly tailored to run best on "the toolbox of the 21st century", it soon is able to suck dry the resources of even the most capable machine.  Like Gillardnix, Rudnix is peddled under a cloud of rumour claiming it must be loaded because the other OSs have had a good run.

Lasty we have Conroynix, which turns out to be nothing but vapourware, it's an OS based entirely on guesswork and as yet has had no code actually struck. Expert analysis has shown that by the anticipated release date of Conroynix, it is likely to be unnaffordable, incompatible and almost a decade behind it's competitiors. Despite these detailed predictions, the enthusiam and quests for photo opportunities of its founders have not waned.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Clayman]Are Howard and Gillard distros? [/quote]


What you haven't seen those yet?


Howardnix is a conservative build, reliable and far from the cutting edge. It is however rock solid and based on the proven menzies core. It is the distro of choice for business systems that cannot afford failure or folly.

Gillardnix is a real chameleon one day it is pretending it's a windows clone, next day it Mac. Gillardnix purports to be an OS for the people but those installing it soon find out that despite some free offers early in release it ends becoming expensive beyond belief.

Abbotnix is an OS with a religious bent, an offshoot of christian linux, it has a special partition to exclude its business code from the moral dictates of the rest of its GUI.

Ruddnix is a real resoursce hog, while it promises much and is supposedly tailored to run best on "the toolbox of the 21st century", it soon is able to suck dry the resources of even the most capable machine.  Like Gillardnix, Rudnix is peddled under a cloud of rumour claiming it must be loaded because the other OSs have had a good run.

Lasty we have Conroynix, which turns out to be nothing but vapourware, it's an OS based entirely on guesswork and as yet has had no code actually struck. Expert analysis has shown that by the anticipated release date of Conroynix, it is likely to be unnaffordable, incompatible and almost a decade behind it's competitiors. Despite these detailed predictions, the enthusiam and quests for photo opportunities of its founder has not waned.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]the one thing i can say for windows is that when something fails- it at least gives you a blue screen which tells you what the last service running was before the crash, and what physical channel the STOP error was generated at [/quote]

Yes, I sure can see how most users can find something like Technical information: [b]*** STOP: 0x00000050 (0x8872A990, 0x00000001, 0x804F35D7, 0x00000000)[/b] and a total system shutdown and required restart, is more user friendly than a Linux error prompt. The blue screen after all is a comforting reminder to the Windowphile that they are in a familiar place. 


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]and in my experience, all Linux does when something goes wrong is hang[/quote]

That experience obviously doesn't extend to how to pop out of the gui for a quick repair.


[quote=apt.pupil]it takes less than half a second for my pc to reboot[/quote]

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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:38:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]if it can only be safely run from the CD[/quote]

do what? NIX in various forms runs from all kinds of media storage.


[quote=apt.pupil]since every time it touches a Hard Drive of mine- that HDD fails.[/quote]

Fails?  I can assure you NIX is quite capable of operating, being added, being removed etc from any HDD, without issue. Are you sure you aren't sacking perfectly functional HDDs because the boot sector fairies have played tricks on you?


[quote=apt.pupil]when i did get it running for a while- it would only run for 10-15 minutes before the inevitable hang[/quote]

I have many NIX boxes with uptimes going into years. 


[quote=apt.pupil]you wonder why there are still so many windows users out there[/quote]

No! I fully understand the reason why many a tied to a devil they know.


[quote=apt.pupil]well for the majority of us- windows works[/quote]

So do old Datsuns, and they too need a lot of coaxing from time to time to extract even average functionality.


[quote=apt.pupil]And when something goes wrong- it is the people who are like me who endeavour to fix the problem [/quote]

There are lots of amateur experts for carburetters and TV antennas too, who get similarly mixed results.

Seriously though the negatives you are stating are more than likely a result if mis-information or failure to absorb documentation (which admittedly is not always user friendly.) And I'd take another look at those drives you say died with a decent partition/format utility.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:46:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]2 many chiefs and not enough indians. [/quote]

Yes there are many from the sub-continent in IT. But race has no bearing on selection of preferred OS. :>


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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 01:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=The Big Baboo]and I asked the techie to partition the hard drive into two for me so that I could place "Linux" onto "D/:"[/quote]

You would not normally run linux from an NTFS partition, NTFS is a windows NT file system. At a glance it looks like Linux has installed onto the previously unpatitioned space on your drive.

The unknown filesystems are most probably formatted as EXT2 or EXT3 which windows is unable to read (without 3rd part utilities).

 
[quote=The Big Baboo]Now I originally thought that if/when I used "GRUB" that it would only partition D: and that into three partitions but it seems to have done the whole disc.[/quote]

Your "D" is a formatted partition (allocated chunk of disk space), you were trying to partition a partition.


[quote=The Big Baboo]Is this normal for "Linux" or should I try to go back to my original config and try reloading it tho' I suppose this means formatting all drives apart from C/: ? [/quote]

My advice (not the only way but probably the easiest to implement) would be to remove the "D" partition, remove linux and reinstall on the unpartitioned space, to take advantage of a reasonable proportion of your disk. Follow on the APC tutorials for Dual boot Linux onto existing windows system.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=stefcep]I don't think you can increase the Windows C partition without losing data.[/quote]


You cannot using windows alone, put tools like parted Magic (open source) or partition magic (commercial) will allow you to do so.

Backup first!!!! if it's unfamiliar territory the potential for data destroying mistakes is high.

These tools can also better identify all the patitions on your disk as well as allowing you to move, delete, create and resize.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:30:51 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]there is no big need to really.[/quote]

It's never good advice to suggest others be lax with safety measures!
The decision to use protective measures should be based upon the cost/effort to rectify the system/s and data if compromised, rather than just considering the likelihood of risk.

Attacks on Nix systems are on the rise and while the architecture is very much more secure than Windows, it only remains so because of constant efforts by many to lock security holes. Attacks on Windows systems will always occur, its simply a matter of time.


[quote=apt.pupil]i have gone a whole 3 months[/quote]

Exhaustive research indeed, lots of aids patients went for years with out a condom too. Was the consequence worth taking the risks? 


[quote=apt.pupil]on the internet with Windows Vista(and 7) with no AV software[/quote]

Then you have been blessed with good luck despite your flawed decision making. That luck will not last.


[quote=apt.pupil]with no AV software, and common sense has pretty much made me avoid most nasties on the internet that windows can get.[/quote]

Ah the rhythm method, millions of catholic schoolgirls can attest how good an idea it actually was to rely on the personal skills of individuals. 


[quote=apt.pupil]Linux on the other hand- i have not heard of malware for Linux existing for nearly 7 years [/quote]

You cannot have been checking your logs too frequently, it would be very rare for a connected machine to go more than 24hrs without at least one intrusion attempt. And your Nix boxes should be offering protection for any connected Windows boxes, as they are not doing much of a job to protect themselves.

ClamAV on a nix server will offer a lot of protection for any Windows box that connect to your nix.

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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:39:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=curious1]
The main reasons for wanting anti virus in linux is to avoid passing on windows viruses to other people

Quite correct, Windows nasties can sail right through a server or gateway. That said Nix is not immune and is still prone to human intervention leaving the doors open,


[quote=apt.pupil]Raindog just decided tot ake the open opportunity to pick me apart.[/quote]

No Raindog took the opportunity to point out that what you were offering was very poor advice.
I get paid for cleaning up this junk from systems and can do without the propagation of any "cant be infected" ideas. 

As for running Windows boxes exposed to the Internet without AV, that is just plain dumb. What you want to do with your machine in the privacy of your own bedroom is your business, but when you start suggesting others need not bother that advice becomes my business!

See how you get on when someone in the family loses a year of uni notes or neighbors business system gets trashed due to you foolhardy suggestions. You make have the time and inclination to poor through your machine on a daily business but most people have neither the desire or the time to do so. And to be perfectly frank the safety measure you've suggested wouldn't even keep out a script kiddie.

No Raindog was not taking any opportunity to pick you apart, but if you wish to begin personal insult I'll finish it for you.
 

  


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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:49:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=EvilChickenMonkey]No need for ........ if you're careful in your .......[/quote]

Its that rhythm method thinking again, the problem is that "if your careful" is so easy to lapse from, once you get distracted, or busy, or tired, or whatever. Many unwanted teenage conceptions were from young lovers who were sure they'd always be careful.

Your quite correct that on Nix you don't need any extravagant measures, an attitude which is eons ahead of the it'll never happen idea. If you are always careful your always pretty well protected, just like if you always tread carefully your always safe on roof. Those with a bit of sense however will always attach a harness.

I can quote many examples of intrusion attacks, all due to to human error, and all of which could have been flagged immediately with basic AV measures. 




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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:57:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil](from experience)[/quote]

Experience which chooses to ignore huge quantities of available quality advice.


[quote=apt.pupil]Linux and Windows on the one HDD are a bad idea.[/quote]

Only for those incapable of following instructions or those who click before they know what they are clicking.



[quote=apt.pupil]my windows XP(at the time) would not install as FAT32,[/quote]

Why? The great majority of OEM XP is shipped that way.



[quote=apt.pupil]ubuntu 8.04(at the time) would not do NTFS[/quote]

Only someone who had not even bother to view a read.me file would have attempted such a load. There are volumes of information and multitudes of reasons why NIX does not run from NTFS.


[quote=apt.pupil]my HDD had a break down.[/quote]

It rained that day too, which was also unrelated.



[quote=apt.pupil]Never again[/quote]

Imminently possible if no effort is made to determine what products will and will not do.


 
[quote=apt.pupil]since i had very important documents[/quote]


which were not important enough to back-up despite both OSes warnings that data could be destroyed.


[quote=apt.pupil]that had to be wiped[/quote]

Why? even if the drive was unable to be booted, intact data would still have been able to be read.


[quote=apt.pupil]that were unrecoverable [/quote]

If they were able to be wiped they were also able to be recovered.

The is no good reasons why multiple OSes cannot be loaded on a single drive of adequate capacity. There is no reasons why they cannot also be virtualised to run concurrently under suitable software. 

If the effort is taken to read and understand the requirements and limitations of each OS, If the effort is taken to understand the implications and if THE WARNINGS ARE HEADED and followed then there is no reason why multiple OSes on the one disk cannot be achieved! ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:33:13 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]but one of the main points to even switch to a 'nux box is the lack of malware capable of affecting 'nux machines.[/quote]

Comprehension is your strong suite is it. Less does not mean none, considerably less does not mean none. And then of course there is human error(you know like wiping your own data because you couldn't be bothered reading instructions)


[quote=apt.pupil]Unless you have a proven case of a Linux machine being broken by a piece of malware that you can quote[/quote]

Exploits are not shared with the incompetent.


[quote=apt.pupil]that i can see for myself[/quote]

There is adequate warnings and explanations available, those who foolishly ignore sound advice do so at their own peril.


[quote=apt.pupil]I am well aware of the risks of running windows[/quote]

And despite this you run an unprotected box exposed to the Internet? I don't believe you have a clue about the risks or the inevitability of that strategy failing in a big way.


[quote=apt.pupil]and unlike 97% of the windows using population[/quote]

Yes the whole world has got it wrong and your the one in step, keep believing kid.


[quote=apt.pupil]i DO have a fairly solid understanding of malware and where to look to see about intrusion attempts[/quote]

You do huh? And despite this you are foolhardy enough to still fail to take any protective measures? That would be no great loss until you start suggesting others follow your lead in applied stupidity? Advice your suggesting to that 97% you assume are incapable.


[quote=apt.pupil]once again, the topic is actually about UNIX systems needing an antivirus.[/quote]

All connected machines and software requires protective efforts and sensible usage.



[quote=apt.pupil]I used my own windows pc as an example in having a little smarts about what you do when connected to the internet- [/quote]

No you used the example of your windows machine to illustrate you have few smarts and even fewer skill in regards to system security.


[quote=apt.pupil]i can only go by what hundreds of linux experts on various Linux forums over several Linux Distros say[/quote]

If that is the case why do all major distros run considerable efforts and provide almost daily patches to eliminate exploits? You confuse the front page hype with factual reality.


[quote=apt.pupil]If the OP was a windows User, i would recommend [/quote]

You've already suggest it's feasible to operate a Windows box unprotected and exposed, why would anyone sane listen to any further advice you offer on the topic?



[quote=apt.pupil]the period of time i went without AV protection was simply because it was a period of time where i was looking for a GOOD AV system, after switching from AVG to Avast!, [/quote]

Both of which offered inherently better protection than your wait and see and "I'm too clever" foolishness.


[quote=apt.pupil]I never had one AV system on for more than a week, so i call that a period of vulnerability. [/quote]

I call it foolishness, inaccurate research and appallingly bad advice to suggest to others, you call it what you wish, but don't suggest others attempt same risks you choose for your own (valuable) data.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]I am well aware of the risks of running windows, and unlike 97% of the windows using population, i DO have a fairly solid understanding of malware and where to look to see about intrusion attempts and the rest of the show.[/quote]

The only thing worse than bad advice is clueless bad advice from an ingnorant and arrogant position!
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			<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 22:56:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]Since there seems to be a need for an explanation for my actions[/quote]

No explanation required. Bad advice remains bad advice regardless of the excuses made.

 [quote=apt.pupil]but one of the main points to even switch to a 'nux box is the lack of malware capable of affecting 'nux machines. [/quote]

What your term a lack is a comparative lack, while Linux is much more secure out of the box, this is no invitation for poor security practise. There are patches for exploits and potential exploits appearing on an almost daily basis to maintain the secure status. The absence of media  on Linux exploits is not an invitation for poor practice or lax security. In the Nix world exploits are patched and closed not publicised. Work it out.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:33:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]Half the reason why i switched through so many AV software suites was because they have a nasty habit of calling false positives- especially the free ones.[/quote]

Falst positives are still very much preferable to your prior suggesting, that there was little risk leaving unprotected doze boxes exposed to the Internet.


[quote=apt.pupil]CA: missed 17 various pieces of spyware that spybot: S&D picked up.[/quote]


Though the distinction is far from clear, do you understand the difference between malware and spyware?


[quote=apt.pupil]Both of them were far too taxing on my resources and internet speed[/quote]

With AV products called to perform more tasks on a daily basis, their taxing of system resources is a real problem. Although their tax on resources may quickly pale into insignificance in comparison to the system loads malware will impose on an unprotected target.


[quote=apt.pupil]it wasn't until i cam across Kaspersky on a 12 month free trial that i found the type of security that doesn't work.[/quote]

????


[quote=apt.pupil]i have only had one worm that was quarantined that kaspersky couldn't kill. one time on all of 2 years.[/quote]

You have only detected one, with the tools utilised. Your results and your random and inconclusive and opinion based test methods, do nothing to highlight the very real risks that ARE rampant and loose in the wild now.


[quote=apt.pupil]bugger all GOOD and RELIABLE AV software solutions i can personally recommend. [/quote]

That may be the case, however their are a plethora of well researched and proven options that are recommended by experts.


[quote=apt.pupil]with the stable and "virus free" Linux solution[/quote]

For the twenty fifth time, listen carefully. Linux IS NOT virus free!  While Linux is (very much) better by design  and is less targeted by criminals, it is not impervious to attack no does it offer absolute protection from user stupidity.


[quote=apt.pupil]personally would not not stress people about "the dangers of just being connected to the internet"[/quote]

Which in a nutshell is you personally offering PLAIN DUMB advice. A foolhardy approach can and will lead to an inevitable breach of security! Those dangers ARE there, anyone who does not recognise this i a fool. Anyone who recommends others not be diligent is dangerous.


[quote=apt.pupil]but to have some basic common sense when browsing the web.[/quote]

Basic common sense is to have a variety of protective measures rather than exposing the risk of human factors and the inevitable slip ups.  While many exploits are easy to spot, some are expertly crafted and impossible to spot.


[quote=apt.pupil]When possible- use an OSK to enter credit card details[/quote]

Where possible does not apply when entering sensitive data, it's essential to ensure a secure path or don't enter the details at all. No ifs, buts, or where possibles about it, not secure the credit card should not be used. 


[quote=apt.pupil]never use internet browsers to save passwords[/quote]

Never save any password data, and never leave this data stored anywhere on a connected machine.


[quote=apt.pupil]never follow pop- up ads or click on ad banners[/quote]

Good advice but understand also the risks involved from clicking on any site, browsing will always involve some risk and some venturing into the unknown.  It's easy to inadvertently click on the wrong place even from trusted sites. What chances do you have without effective and automatic protective measures active.


[quote=apt.pupil]NEVER EVER give out your IP address [/quote]

It's an address, does never giving your home address protect that same home from random burglary? Does not disclosing an IP protect from port scanners or random attack?
It's an address and it's easily identifiable. A <del>hidden</del> undisclosed IP offers no protection at all.

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			<description><![CDATA[150 MB (157,484,384 bytes) for the windows version of OO Rel3.1.1]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nev]My ISP is Bigpond[/quote]

oh dear, commiserations



[quote=Nev]in their huge repository of free files[/quote]

Huge? nup!



[quote=Nev]PS funny it hasn't been on a freebie DVD attached to a computing mag.[/quote]

OO is probably one of the most included pieces of software on cover CDs/DVDs, if you wish to follow that path keep looking although beware of getting older versions and then ending still needing a substantial download.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nev]I am with Bigpond because their NextG wireless network allows us to use the web virtually anywhere we travel in Oz. [/quote]

As long as you travel within the coverage footprint, yes.



[quote=Nev]There are other reasons as well.[/quote]


Tax write off?  You love being transferred to the far reaches of an autmated response system or speak to a jaded call centre droid with the customer sills of a warthog? You like paying more for less?


[quote=Nev]I downloaded OO last night and am having great fun getting used to it.[/quote]

OO is fine for the majority of tasks. It works well, and it even has the comforting bloat that windows users will feel accustomed to.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]i didn't interpret your OP as you using windows apps. In that case- then i would have recommended differently.[/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Michael J]I'd love to see you two together in the same room [/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nev]How do I uninstall it should the need arise?[/quote]

This is a trick question isn't it? because there is no good reason to ever want to un-install a Linux. :)

However if for some bizarre reason, (I dunno say you wanted to give the laptop to a fan-boy) what you would do is delete the Nix partition/s and redo the master boot record for windows. 


[quote=Nev]restore things to normal.[/quote]

Normal is a state of mind, you'll find Ubuntu quite normal with very little effort at all.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]Linux is an absolute pain to use windows apps on.[/quote]

It's not easy to fit Commodore parts to a Falcon either, and just as illogical, why in heck would you want to run windows apps?


[quote=apt.pupil]If you are an uber geek or[/quote]

... or are someone capable of following simple instructions or reading documentation.


 
[quote=apt.pupil]winamp was the ONLY choice for me[/quote]

There you go with that square peg int the round hole again. No available Linux media players? Are you not capable of running a google search?


[quote=apt.pupil]games are also a reason why[/quote]

but not a good reason! You only get 70 or so years upright on this planet, why would you want to waste large chunks of that shooting onscreen aliens? :)


[quote=apt.pupil]there are a few other apps i used to use as well back then that wouldn't run[/quote]

square peg, round hole, it's becoming a regular theme.


[quote=apt.pupil]but my need for them has long expired and i have forgotten the program names now.[/quote]

So you don't like Linux because it wont run apps you no longer use that you don't remember the name of? You've really thought this through, haven't you?


[quote=apt.pupil]Also back in the day(2-3 years back) i foolhardedly went in and followed what every 'nux boy on the ubuntu forums[/quote]

You might think of this next time you get all crossed up about someone suggesting your advice may not be a good idea for the masses. Hmm?


[quote=apt.pupil]It turned out that my drive was NTFS, and it could only read(not write) to FAT32.[/quote]

Your windows drive was NTFS or FAT32 yes, nothing in that stops Windows or Nix for that matter reading from and writing to Fat32. Never was, hell many pre installed Windows partitions are still delivered as FAT32. 



[quote=apt.pupil]and i had to reformat the HDD[/quote]

No you didn't! Your data could have been easily recovered from either OS of a FAT32 partition, or a NTFS or EXT partition with a few readily down-loadable utilities.  Reading before clicking solves so many perceived maladies.


[quote=apt.pupil]It was then that i spent $80 over a 2 hour phone call to microsoft support that i decided from now on i would learn how to fix my own problems[/quote]

You could have save the $80 and got oodles of better help and advice, for no cost,  if you'd asked in the right places.  Then again Help forums don't take kindly to people who ask questions and then suggest their own wrong answer, without listening. (I doubt kevin Rudd has ever had much luck on forums. Doubt he's ever had much luck maintaining a sensible conversation to be truthful.)


[quote=apt.pupil]i would learn how to fix my own problems[/quote]

The only way to be, but fixing your own problems has nothing to do with ignoring good advice, or re-inventing wheels.


[quote=apt.pupil]because i can not afford either an $80 phone call to Microsoft of $100+ for a 2 hour job at a computer shop.[/quote]

Then you cannot really afford to screw around with random an unresearched solutions. If budgets are tight can you really afford to buy software when a fully fully functional replacement is just a free download away?


[quote=apt.pupil]You might want to add that you will need to windows installation Cd to boot into recovery mode [/quote]

I could have done that, I could have suggested the command typed out by another respondent too. But I think its better to point people in the right direction and let then actually learn how to achieve their goals rather than simply offering a a how to that they may or may not understand. his is a forum for those who are supposed to have a clue after-all.


[quote=apt.pupil]and enter a particular line of code to restore the master boot record. i can't remember the line of code now[/quote]

I can! See the advantage of actually learning about your subject?




[quote=apt.pupil]
Nah. i think i'll stick with proprietary software. that way it is easier for me to understand, and its gonna cost me less to fix[/quote]

Like the aforementioned $80/hr, you've really thought this through.


[quote=apt.pupil]
since i have a good working knowledge of windows now


Working knowledge or comfortable familiarity?


Use whatever operating system you choose, but don't bag out another because you cannot be bother to become as familiar with it.  Apart from running some games most of your arguments would come out more in favour of Linux than of windows.  
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]thats what the 'nux boys said.[/quote]

Probably because it is correct. If everyone is telling you this, perhaps it's a good time to have another look at your erroneous conclusions.



[quote=apt.pupil]actually my POST screen told me that the HDD could not be booted[/quote]

Do what? POST telling you this?


[quote=apt.pupil]So what the 'nux fanbois told me about ubuntu 7.10 being able to run with windows on one partition was a big, bad[/quote]

No it wasn't, are you saying everyone but you is wrong? I have dual boot running via partitions are you calling me a liar? APC has a whole series of how-to's on just this from this very site? Are you saying those are all wrong too?

 
[quote=apt.pupil]that left me $80 short[/quote]

No what left you out of pocket was your own impatience and refusal to listen.


[quote=apt.pupil]my local repair shop at the time would have easily charged dounle because of the 2 hours work[/quote]

Uh huh, what do you consider an hours labour to be worth?

 
[quote=apt.pupil]I have set up a dual- boot of windows Vista and windows 7 without any partitioning, just seperate HDDs[/quote]

Separate disks are my preference but that is purely for convenience, there is no reason whatsoever why multiple OS's cannot be run from he one hard disk. 1,000's are in operation every day, your suggestion you were told a lie is simply nonsense.


[quote=apt.pupil]well from what i read of your earlier reply- you didn't even do so much as hint them in the right direction-[/quote]

Then clearly you have mis-read!


[quote=apt.pupil]just saying that it can be done.[/quote]

What were you expecting? Like I told you before, enough information for someone to do their own research. Providing a bunch of commands wont help anyone learn anything.

 
[quote=apt.pupil]and since i can not actually study on that subject without going through the pain of having to restore the broken system myself[/quote]

excuses, excuses. Only one stopping you learning is you.


[quote=apt.pupil]its not a matter of not being bothered to familairize myself. Its a matter of consistent bad experiences of hardware breaking everytime i touch Linux. [/quote]

That contradiction says in spades that it is entirely an issue of familiarisation, an OS install wont damage hardware!  It wont! no matter what you have convinced yourself happens. 


[quote=apt.pupil]last time i touched Linux(before Koala) my RAM failed on me[/quote]

Nothing to do with Linux! Or any OS!


[quote=apt.pupil]and then when i uninstalled it- i had a DIMM slot break on me.[/quote]

Again nothing to do with software, operator error, again.


[quote=apt.pupil]call it bad luck, bad user, whatever you will.[/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]i had printed out the instructions provided by the 'nux bois and the wiki and what happened? something went wrong when i followed their instructions.[/quote]

What was i saying about using step by step instruction for people who do not fully grasp what is going on?


[quote=apt.pupil]it failed to work as i was told it would work[/quote]

and you ignored all the reason to why this was the case? Did you explain your problem to the people you got the instructions from?


[quote=apt.pupil]but dont you find the coincidence of everytime i stray into the open source field for OSes- something goes wrong with my hardware?[/quote]

coincidence yes, nothing but a coincidence, I'll repeat because you are not getting it. [b]"The OS has nothing to do with any hardware failures"[/b] 


[quote=apt.pupil]I replaced it for a brand new one- even though a full disk forat could have fixed it.[/quote]

If a format could have fixed it, then no hardware failure had occurred!


[quote=apt.pupil]this was a matter of choice. [/quote]

and nothing to do with an alleged hardware failure


[quote=apt.pupil]which has helped make me fear the linux platform entirely[/quote]

unfounded superstition has no place in computing!


[quote=apt.pupil]When hardware fails in Linux[/quote]


But no hardware did fail due to Linux, you snapped your DIMM socket, it was something you did that scrambled your HDD, and yet you choose to unfairly label an OS as the cause of your problems.


[quote=apt.pupil]This does not mean i bash Linux[/quote]

Of course not, your suggesting that a Linux is responsible for a whole mess of your own failures, is not bashing, is it?  Your accusations are unfair, erroneous and a result of your own haste, nothing else.

 
[quote=apt.pupil]When something goes wrong with my hardware in windows[/quote]

And when something goes wrong in software due to your own actions? Windows is offering you that safe place, that comfort zone. Windows is no better at diagnosis than Nix and is a damn sight worse in terms of logs and useful error information.


[quote=apt.pupil]In Linux- if hardware fails on me- i have to reboot[/quote]

It's all hardware failures with you, isn't it. Heaven knows how much hardware you've sacked for no reason.


[quote=apt.pupil]thats why- to be safe from now on- i will always have a seperate HDD with an OS that i will be able to boot through- should it hit the fan again[/quote]

That's not such a bad strategy, of course you will need another disk or media if you need to transfer information between OS's. And despite it being quite a good way for some it's not for everyone, and you remain in error suggesting  Multiple OS's on different position of the same physical disk cannot be done.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]the DIMM socket is well and truly intact, thank you very much.[/quote]

So what was all the "Linux damaged my hardware" nonsense about then?


[quote=apt.pupil]the corrupt HDD may not be so much of a hardware failure[/quote]

So what was all the "Linux damaged my hardware" nonsense about then?


[quote=apt.pupil]I did not label it as the cause of my problems either. i simply said that everytime i try Linux- some piece of hardware on my pc breaks.[/quote]

Which is you inferring Linux or the loading of Linux damages hardware. The inference in the context of a forum being that if others load Linux it will happen to them too.


[quote=apt.pupil]maybe you should do the reading a little more and less harbor grudges.[/quote]

Grudges, what grudges, I am simply correcting the incorrect statements and assumptions you are making. "should do the reading a little more" what language is this?

 
[quote=apt.pupil]I like to know why my Corsair, OCZ AND kingston RAM all seem to keep failing on me. in windows they would throw a blue screen on boot with a consistent Hex code result and .sys process that failed, in Linux, they wouldn't boot at all.[/quote]

What is that telling you? Why blame Linux? You probably never bother even reading the log files.


[quote=apt.pupil]crap dude-[/quote]

Don't call me Dude.


[quote=apt.pupil] i laid it all out for you in almost those exact words and you still found a way to make it look like i am bashin 'nux. [/quote]

Read your own posts. You inferred Linux or the loading of Linux was the cause of your hardware woes. This was incorrect and remains incorrect. Manoeuvre all you wish but your statement remains incorrect.


[quote=apt.pupil]Once again i have not said it can not be done, only said that my experience in doing so has not exactly been a box of roses, and from my experiences- i would not exactly recommend it. [/quote]

I would not advise messing about, without first knowing what you are messing with. Exploring another OS did not trash your data, you actions trashed your data. These systems are pretty mature now, millions of people run them without problems.


[quote=apt.pupil]I have also gone to pains to explain that i did it some time ago, and things may be different now.[/quote]

Two posts later, maybe!  Not good enough.  :)


[quote=apt.pupil]but you go off and single out one line[/quote]

One very incorrect line, and a line that even now you are persisting with.


[quote=apt.pupil]here is something for you to google then. its called NVLD[/quote]

No need. one day you will work out that everyone is not having a go at you. Nothing personal, not an attack. just consider that a casual reader may have been given the wrong idea by your suggestion. If you are having problems with something just ask, there is plenty of help about, and i don't see anyone here asking for $80/question for some mediocre advice. If you don't like advice or answers given that's fine too, but please consider when someone says something is wrong they are probably trying to give you information. It's not a competition.


[quote=apt.pupil]i now have a spare 4GB DDR2 RAM sitting in my pc hardware spares cupboard in dust and static- proof wrapping [/quote]

You'll find a home for it, or there is always e-bay if you can be bothered with that.  From what you've just explained your problems appear to be more ones of Memory mismatch, with the MOBO and with each other. The symptoms were apparent in both OS's, ignoring them didn't help. You would probably find that now that problem is solved, you would have none of the issues you've experienced previously. Whether you wish to try again or not is your business.  End of the day the issue was not anything to do with Linux.  I'm trust your now clear with that.

enjoy, no one is having a shot at you.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Sp33d d3mon]What fails to be mentioned is the dodgy power bricks[/quote]

This is a good point, but it's not just HP and not just related to power bricks. The general obsolescence of these things is terrible, with most of it ending in landfill.

There have been efforts recently amongst phone manufacturers towards standardised chargers and standardised connectors. The rest of the Technology industry could do well to follow this lead.
After all despite the many and varied voltages at the charger plugs, the electronics almost universally is looking for 12Vdc and 5Vdc power.

Before you junk your otherwise working HP look about for a generic supply with matching voltage and VA. And ask someone handy with a soldering iron  and volt meter to cut off and graft the plug from your old supply onto the replacement. You should be able to find one cheaply, otherwise its just land-fill.



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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]But it could be a waste of money if you try the soldering job[/quote]

Yeah that solder is expensive, and that's before you even priced in heat shrink!  You know what there are even a few here who know what end of a soldering iron is for putting your hand on.

Odds on there is a suitable brick in someones junk box. If the OP had titled his thread a little differently he may well have be able to find someone who could donate one, maybe even an exact match.


[quote=Halcon]if the cost outweigh the neat savings if buying a new printer.[/quote]

And if they don't? 



[quote=Halcon]I am using a Samsung Colour Laser printer[/quote]

That's nice for you, your parent must be very proud. But what exactly does it have to do with the OPs issue?


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			<description><![CDATA[[url=http://www.stuffucanuse.com/odds_and_sods/nz_navy.jpg]NZ armed forces declare war on HP[/url]]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=straker135]Now that is worth going to war for!
[/quote]

NZ [url=http://www.stuffucanuse.com/odds_and_sods/nz_navy.jpg]Armed Forces[/url] declare war on HP?


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			<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 11:13:17 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Click Create Query in Design View to open a new query.

I haven't tried solving your example but base should have little trouble handling dates.


[url=http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0110GS-GettingStartedWithBase.pdf]OO Base Tutorial[/url]]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nev]I've done that but no matter how I insert the formula according to the Tutorial you suggested it won't work. The format I am using must be wrong somehow.[/quote]


A this point a little more information on the details of your problem would help. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:31:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[While there are a number of ways to monitor network activity, you would have to ask yourself whether it is the best use of your managerial resources. You'll likely waste as much effort chasing possible breaches as you'll save eliminating them. A quick scan of the body language in cubicles will give a ready indication of who's actually working. Some realistic measures of employee output will confirm without doubt who is earning their salaries and who is not.

The best tool at hand are a well structured, concise, practical and reasonable computer usage policy for your organisation, which lists the Do's and Dont's and outlines actions and penalties.

A spy mentality at management level will generally do nothing but inspire a devious and convert mentality amongst staff. A dictatorial policy towards technology usage may also not be the best way to maximise employee output. Everyone has a life outside work and tasks to complete during business hours that may or may not be work related. Allowing REASONABLE personal use of telephones, faxes and computers for such things is a positive step towards productivity.

The other factor you must consider is our open ended labyrinth of privacy legislation, they may be your computers on your network, but employees still have many rights in regard to privacy regardless, something that needs to be considered before reading every email or spying on screens that may have be connected to Internet banking etc.

The great time-wasters like, Facebook, twitter, IRC etc, should be clearly outlined in your usage policy and it can be worthwhile looking into some basic port blocking etc to inhibit their use in the workplace.

Web surfing is harder to control in many cases as restrictions are likely to stop as many wanted sites as unwanted ones. (A concept clearly missed by one Senator Stephen Conroy) Once again a your workplace policy document should clear outline what is and what is not acceptable.

I have seen business managers spend days combing through employee mobile phone bills to try to isolate private usage to save a few hundred dollars, when a 15 minute analysis of the totals is able to point out the obvious offenders. It's amazing how the average bills fall once knowledge that a few offenders have been challenged about their usage. The same applies to any actions on improper computer use.

As for software/hardware solutions, you can employ remote desktop viewers, packet sniffers and loggers, call loggers etc, but my advice would be to use a good managed switch and router and have it configured by an expert to block (limit)the obvious time-wasters and to use common sense management to control the rest.  Lest you the manager end up wasting more time and effort than you employees may or may not be currently wasting. 

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			<description><![CDATA[While there are a number of ways to monitor network activity, you would have to ask yourself whether it is the best use of your managerial resources. You'll likely waste as much effort chasing possible breaches as you'll save eliminating them. A quick scan of the body language in cubicles will give a ready indication of who's actually working. Some realistic measures of employee output will confirm without doubt who is earning their salaries and who is not.

The best tool at hand are a well structured, concise, practical and reasonable computer usage policy for your organisation, which lists the Do's and Dont's and outlines actions and penalties.

A spy mentality at management level will generally do nothing but inspire a devious and convert mentality amongst staff. A dictatorial policy towards technology usage may also not be the best way to maximise employee output. Everyone has a life outside work and tasks to complete during business hours that may or may not be work related. Allowing REASONABLE personal use of telephones, faxes and computers for such things is a positive step towards productivity.

The other factor you must consider is our open ended labyrinth of privacy legislation, they may be your computers on your network, but employees still have many rights in regard to privacy regardless, something that needs to be considered before reading every email or spying on screens that may have be connected to Internet banking etc.

The great time-wasters like, Facebook, twitter, IRC etc, should be clearly outlined in your usage policy and it can be worthwhile looking into some basic port blocking etc to inhibit their use in the workplace.

Web surfing is harder to control in many cases as restrictions are likely to stop as many wanted sites as unwanted ones. (A concept clearly missed by one Senator Stephen Conroy) Once again a your workplace policy document should clear outline what is and what is not acceptable.

I have seen business managers spend days combing through employee mobile phone bills to try to isolate private usage to save a few hundred dollars, when a 15 minute analysis of the totals is able to point out the obvious offenders. It's amazing how the average bills fall once knowledge that a few offenders have been challenged about their usage. The same applies to any actions on improper computer use.

As for software/hardware solutions, you can employ remote desktop viewers, packet sniffers and loggers, call loggers etc, but my advice would be to use a good managed switch and router and have it configured by an expert to block (limit)the obvious time-wasters and to use common sense management to control the rest.  Lest you the manager end up wasting more time and effort than you employees may or may not be currently wasting. 

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			<description><![CDATA[i replied to this but the APC monster has capured my post. 
Oh well I tried!]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]Thank goodness this is a 14 year old test !
I thought it might have been a entry question for "Are you smarter than a fifth grader"[/quote]

Looks like the fifth graders have the edge on all those who said A & B. 

To quote Monty Python: Fish live in the sea, carp are fish, so all fish must be carp. similar logic will select "A" & "B"

We know the pixel count is down, so for a given file type the file will be smaller with lesser dimensions making B true.
 
But cropping is  only one of the possible ways the pixel count and file size could be reduced. You could also re-size the picture to the quoted dimensions. So while A is possible it is not absolute, the answer can only be B.

Back to year 8 with the lot of you, and apologies for taking this long before correcting you all. :>]]></description>
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			<title>Removing background from images </title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Google is your friend [url=http://www.google.com.au/search?q=remove+background+in+photoshop&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGGL_enAU208AU209]Link here[/url]

One thing to remember is the more work you do preparing your photos the less work you will have when doing tasks like removing backgrounds. A single coloured background such as a sheet of blue card and even light when clicking the picture will make your task in photoshop a breeze.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=LostBenji]BS back at you, [/quote]

Very constructive!! This will help the OP (or anyone else for that matter), how exactly?


[quote=LostBenji]go read the OP and read it propperly[/quote]

now its demands and menace with added spelling error.


[quote=LostBenji]SpyBot as a program needs to be elevated from startup, not just the immunise feature.[/quote]

Ok Einstein, then how about a few simple direction on how to achieve this or pointer to to a web resource that provides the same? Or would that be not as good for the ego as taking down another who was attempting to help.


This is a real weakness in the Spybot install procedure brought about by MSs appalling attempts at security. So how about a bit less of the "go back and read" and "I will say it again".

You've made all the claims, and assumed the superiority so I will offer you the opportunity to reply with the actual resolution. :>

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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:05:31 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Mark_Barnes]Photoshop would be the best tool to use but....[/quote]


That's not necessarily true, Photoshop is probably the most capable tool, but it can be unwieldy for beginners.  
Personally I use Paint Shop Pro for these tasks not because it is best of breed, but because it better matches my limited skill sets in graphics manipulation. Its lasso tool is easy to use with background manipulation

Your initial comments regarding Clean breaks and colour separation are the real keys, and that is used by selecting a high contrast background and adequate light.

Given the number of images, and the amount of work involved I'd suggest Petert's suggestion of get help is the most appropriate. Photoshop is not difficult to learn, but becoming expert does take time and lots of practice. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:40:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=MTCH]it is not so wasy to use for normal user like me. It is not so easy to configure.[/quote]

It is no more difficult to configure than any other method. Most of the hurdles are getting around the bodgy security traps which will affect any interconnection.


[quote=MTCH]I have to switch the TCP/IP configuration every time when I want to do the file transfer. [/quote]

No that is how you have configured things, why do you have to switch network parameters constantly? 

As I suggested above adding a small switch would have been the easiest, fastest, and most comprehensive solution.


[quote=MTCH]I founded a good solution for file trans and synchronization as the following;[/quote]

You found a solution, the good folks at Targus were probably the ones who founded it. If USB works for you that's great, but its far from the easiest or most efficient solution.
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			<title>Software: send files - USB</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Why would you bother with a USB link, when a simple CAT5e network cable offers much greater throughput for a fraction of the price?

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]you must use a CROSSOVER cable.[/quote]

Way back in the dim dark days of yold this was always true, today it is not generally necessary with 99% of modern hardware capable of auto connecting.

A crossover cable will always work, a straight through cable will work for anything other than ancient hardware.

Better still for less than the cost of that USB to USB cable buy a small switch and a pair of network cables. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:30:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Yet more despicable Microsoft behaviour!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]To annoy you ! .[/quote]


Yeah your annoying, but which one are you again?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]I'm not too sure why you are so angry ![/quote]

Then consider a few simple facts.


[quote=Your Average Joe]- You asked MS for a solution to a problem you are having.[/quote]

Yes he did. And quite rightly so considering he is paying for the service.


[quote=Your Average Joe]- MS identified the problem.[/quote]

They did. But identifying problems does nothing without solutions. Identifying a problem does very little in terms of achieving ultimate customer satisfaction.


[quote=Your Average Joe]- Provided a couple of options to resolve your issue[/quote]

No not a couple of options, an option, and a a very expensive and disruptive option.


[quote=Your Average Joe]MS is under no obligation to support Linux[/quote]

Yes MS has no obligation to support Linux to do so or not is entirely a business decision. However if MS have made changes to a service which now makes that service unfit or unsuitable for service then the have an obligation to refund paying customers who are now no longer able to reasonably avail themselves of the service.

No amount of apologising on your behalf will change the fact that MS has attempted to implement a a closed shop policy for all their products, whether it be regularly breaking Samba connectivity or coding their service to reject connections from  non MS or older MS systems.


[quote=Your Average Joe]I just wonder how Ubuntu support would react if I were to complain about IE7 performance under 8.10 ?[/quote]

You wouldn't be wondering long (or perhaps maybe you would), but given IE7 was never available and a could only run as an emulation in Linux, it would be a long straw indeed to expect service for a MS product from an OS that you had made no financial contribution towards. And if your heart really desired such a thing paid support and development would be available.


[quote=Your Average Joe]I know this is very speculative[/quote]

Very


[quote=Your Average Joe]but you get my point[/quote]

Well no! But we do recognise your your position.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Seems I was responding to Paulo ![/quote]

Seems you have would rather make personal slurs than contribute to debate.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Well, you can only lead a horse to water .......................
[/quote]

I doubt you'd possess suficient leadership skills for equine encouragement, let alone enlightenment of higher species.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Appointed yourself representative spokesperson for APC again, have 'we' ?[/quote]

I think you are the only one who has fantasies of such appointments, It certainly is cause for an endless stream of pointless catty comments from your dank little corner.

I'll comment when and where I see fit not to suit your satisfaction or lobbying. So get used to it.
Obviously you had no valid reasoning to question anything said on topic.



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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:10:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Might be a genetic thing ! :D[/quote]

What is the impetus for you to litter threads with pointless off topic comments?

Have a read through you contributions? When is the last time you actually had something to say or offer that remotely related to a thread topic?  Even most of the windows fanboys can on occasions offer contributions with some relationship to the thread.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:14:50 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Yet more despicable Microsoft behaviour!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=SLi]... its not as if Raindog hasn't assumed a representative spokesperson position for APC before eh Raindog?[/quote]


It's not as if noisy fan boys take offence at having their obvious bias, name calling and all around narrow mindedness held up for question before is it SLI. And it appears you've learnt nothing from it you still cannot contribute on topic or without making personal references. 

Take a ticket and go join queue of all the other fanboy contenders as its obvious you have nothing to contribute that is on topic. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:15:16 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Learning PHP / MySQL</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Just do it Danny!

No seriously there is so much PHP/MySQL reference material available you can get giddy at the first google search.

A good context sensitive editor will help no end, google a few basic tutorials and set about solving some actual problems, everytime you hit a problem or need more info just google it.

There are very few beginner/itermediate problems that have not already been encountered by others and after reading a few of the more woldly replies the php manuals can actually start making sense.

I would not recommend them any one resource over another, use them all, you dont need to read cover to cover or suffer endless "hello world" examples to get going with the good stuff.


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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:45:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC Oct 08: More eyes on your site</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Dan I would like to see some discussion/advice regarding localisation of SEO. Some of my prior amateur attempts had no problems generating huge numbers of replies, to the point where answering each email enquiry was becoming difficult. The problem was that most of those replies were from parts of the planet I was not in a position to service.  I would be keen to see suggestions on how to optimise for city state country or regional level optimisation.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:28:23 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Mandatory ISP level internet filtering</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Conroy the Union Hack shows his true colors, and sets forth attempting to dictate how the world thinks.! 

All those who mandated this clueless knob to further mess up Australian Telecommunications must now be truely proud.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:35 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Mandatory ISP level internet filtering</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]I'm with you here ! ........................... No ! Really ![/quote]


Only a fool wouldn't be!


[quote=Me In Oz]The ones that thought he was Australia's IT saviour before the election must be dancing a jig now ![/quote]


Same crowd, that thinks the planet owes them. Rural Broadband shot dead in the water for no reason other than personal bastardry! ISP being bullied and threatened if they don't offer Conroy apparent support.

The man's record in a few short months has been abysmal at best, and treacherous upon even the most cursory evaluation.  ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:03:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Mandatory ISP level internet filtering</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]I've got him neck and neck with Peter Garrett ............ LOL ![/quote]


Nasty flashback of Oils classics sung with a lisp.   "US Forcspes givesp the Nod"]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:53:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Twitter</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Wazza]Does anyone understand what it's meant to do? [/quote]


It's to help fill microseconds of many empty lives. :>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:52:14 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Someone has hijacked my email address</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=tim2hawkes]dont give out your adress in future [/quote]


doesn't that defeat the purpose of an email address? Unplugging the modem would also be effective but it's far from practical.

There is not a lot you can do about spammers spoofing your email address, the good thing is it will usually not be too long before yours drops from their list and the next spoofed name is used. 
These message are not originating from your system based on the information you have provided.

The best advice is to ensure anti-virus and spy-ware is up to date and that your PC(s) are all clean.
Contact your service provider if you experience any problems with black listing or access blocks.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:53:08 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Someone has hijacked my email address</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]As usual ...... is right on top of things.[/quote]

If you had nothing of value to contribute you could have considered not replying at all.  
Shut-Up Idiot!!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:54:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]As usual .... is right on top of things. [/quote]

Why reply when you had nothing of value to contribute?

Your hobby is due for an abrupt end too!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:55:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Dan,could you post a poll regarding raindog and his replys?.This would clearly show that something needs to be done. [/quote]

That something constitutes curbing your bad behavior! 
No more threats for a start! No personal attacks! 
No attempts to shout down opinions that do not coincide with your own!
No telling APC how to run THEIR website!
No calls for pointless polls or bans!

Concentrate on your own behavior! Contribute in a constructive manner or don't bother!
You and your ilk are not going to intimidate me or anybody else! End of discussion!
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:55:35 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=NetR@nger]Thats a desperate attempt at a reply[/quote]

truth hurts, doesn't it?


[quote=NetR@nger]fabricated ....... once again.[/quote]

Nothing fabricated about it. YOU were the the one making personal threats! Your bad behaviour! Your inability to behave!


[quote=NetR@nger]Id say that poll would be great[/quote]

Well best you start your own website and you can run all the polls you wish for. But here you'd best remember whose site it is. And that is not yours.


[quote=NetR@nger]And ill say when its end of discussion. [/quote]

You can say whatever you wish as long as you do it in a polite and constructive manner. But you can pull your head in if you think you are going to control what I or any other reasonable contributor here has to say!  Not negotiable!


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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:49:25 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>  1$ for registration</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nicolas]with name you registered and your paypal e-mail, thanks.[/quote]

Here's a better idea! After being exposed as a scammer Nicolas goes directly to jail!
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:35:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>  1$ for registration</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Nicolas]with name you registered and your paypal e-mail, thanks.[/quote]


Her's a better idea! After being exposed, user Nicolas is prosecuted for his activities!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:38:18 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Old Aussie BBS scene</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Most users online at one time? Frank, how many modems do we have again?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:47:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Need advise on my email needs</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[What you need is a mail server. it will give you complete freedom with how you handle store your mail and you will only be sending /recieving it once from outside sources.

And with a a shared workload and a 56K satellite connection I'd say a web proxy server could help things along too.

Exchange server is one option, but I'd recommend a linux server build on a relatively low spec box.  Almost any server build van do everything you want but Ilde look at something like SME server or Clark Connect for a ready to run setup, both could satisfy your needs easily.

[url=http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Download]SME Server[/url]
[url=http://www.clarkconnect.com/]
clark connect[/url]]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:51:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>develop and patent apps</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Patenting and developing are two very different concepts and disciplines, the first one is a legal entity to protect your IP. That is if you have long enough pockets to enforce it.

Developing is the transformation of an idea into a working model. And for any patenting to be worth a stamp you have to play the legal game with all aspects of your development. 

When reality sets in most come to the realisation that any patent offers only limited protection for the small developer, particularly as the target of your enterprise extends beyong our wide brown land and onto shore that have little or no respect for OS rights.

I'd suggest speaking to some some small business support bodies for some advice and direction, at the very minimum you will need non disclosure agreements with any developer you employ or your idea may soon become their idea, and if the produce all the code you are already on the light side of any dispute.

Patents design rights etc, dont really help the little guy, it's really up to your ingenuity, cunning and will to get a product to market with a clear lead on opponents, and trust me achieving that is just your first battle. Established players won't just sit by and watch you take up market share.

I hope that doesn't put you off, the struggle is well worth it, and nothing worthwhile in our world is easy, or everyone would be doing it.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:05:32 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Live Messenger annoyance...</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Michael J]I think you can change the settings in windows messenger and tell it not to start at startu[/quote]

You can, but every patch or update has it defaulted back to it's annoying best.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 15:40:30 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>terrible TV reception on PC</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The tiny antenna supplied with your USB stick is there as a form of practical joke. Youwill need to be in an exceptional area for those things to work adequately. 

Like any TV you need a decent antenna. Get an antenna point wired to your PC or if your very lucky you can use a dedicated indoor antenna.]]></description>
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			<title>terrible TV reception on PC</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Michael J]I think i might just go with the drill-a-hole-through-the-wall plan.[/quote]

I think you might still encounter broken digital and snowy analogue reception. Holes through walls have never be a recognised means of VHF-UHF reception. 
You need a decent antenna to get a decent signal, but if it takes further experimentation for you to be convinced then enjoy. 

When your done, Selleys offers an excellent range of products for the repair of small holes in interior walls.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:49:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>For Sale :Canon EOS-5D Body Only Digital</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[b]Like anyone would want to commit funds to a spam link without a website, an ABN, or a street address, just a yahoo mailbox. 

Spam,Spam,Spam......Spam,Spam,Spam........Spamdiddy Spam.[/b]]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:32:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC March 09: Make an iCAR</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[iPod connectivity was hardly high on the priority list when selecting a car. And I'd offer reactions from bemusement to offence at any reference to it being an iCar.

As for connectivity. Molex pub assembly to 3.5mm Stereo jack connecting up to the factory loom. Add connection cable, adjust Car-Fi that's about it.  Sometimes its convenient but day to day I'd rather rely on the in-dash CDs and not have to mess about with cables and chargers so I can concentrate on the serious business of looking out the windscreen.

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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:47:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Best print quality @ home..</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Don,t be fooled by the prices on most internet spam, most of them have the same objectives, so a vendor that may be offering a deal too good to be true is probably just that, too good to be true.[/quote]


For More Tips Go To:
[url=http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_310369][url=http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD/pc=PC_310520]How to report a spammer.[/url][/url]


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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:49:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>iPhone repairs in Australia</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=www.datumit.com.au]Suggest to all readers to contact DatumIT.com.au[/quote]


Well you would have an interest in doing so, now wouldn't you. All those years in IT and you don't know what spam is?

Also please not that the process of applying a [i]spade[/i] to a dog or any creature contravenes RSPCA recommendations is is likely to incur heavy fines.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:56:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>How to determine quality of digital pics</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Sarina]the properties show 2592x1944.[/quote]


That's 5038848 pixels or 5.03 mega-pixels. Pixel count doesn't directly relate to quality of the image a camera takes. But before you condemn your camera out of hand, have you tried using different resolution from the camera, and different settings on your graphics software.

There aren't too many monitors that will display a a 5MP image at 1:1 zoom.

What Camera are you using? What picture format? JPG? RAW? TIF? etc? What image software are you using? What is your intended purpose for the images? A4 prints? Happy snaps? net or print images?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:12:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>How to determine quality of digital pics</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I don't know that model but have seen some excellent stills taken from an older Everio.

Your doing the right thing to take your photos at the highest resolution possible, the only trade off is the file size you have to deal with particularly when emailing.

Try some other options for the ISO setting, a fast ISO should be fine in sunlight, but on a long exposure will often give noise and graininess like you describe. Usually for happy snaps the auto setting on your camera will give the best results. I did say usually.

The stretch/skew advice you were given may not have been the best advice, it will change both the size and proportions of the image, what you need to do is re-size and with the "maintain aspect ratio" option ticked which will change the resolution to something more usable but will not otherwise distort your image. Experiment with some shots at lower settings too which should be adequate for everything other than large prints.

If you can get your hands on photoshop or Paintshop Pro and try resizing and adjusting the Gamma etc of your images. They wont do the impossible but they can often cure many of the photography mistakes we all make sometimes.

Persevere a little with your camera, and try a few different settings, it should be capable of quite reasonable results.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:09:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]I doubt this can produce nice snapshots.[/quote]

It can!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BlueGirl]I've tried both networking ports on the PC[/quote]

Both?  Do you know what the Ethernet settings are for each port? We are assuming you are talking Ethernet network ports here.

Did you use the same cable each time? Try the cable you used to connect your laptop to the PC and try reversing which end you connect to each device. Make sure the connectors are fully pushed home and that they click into place. It would be a good idea to reboot your PC after connection too.  

If you've changed nothing in software then it is probably just a bad cable or connection.



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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BlueGirl]All 3 machines will connect to each other, and the cable modem will just connect to 1 machine, and no link lights with the other 2 machines when it's plugged in. [/quote]

Sounds like you could with a small Ethernet switch to save all the plugging and unplugging.

What modem do you have?

Have you rebooted after connecting the network cable?

Type ipconfig on one of the desktops and note down what is returned on the screen.
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:47:54 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BlueGirl]The modem I'm using is Motorola Surfboard SB4200 [/quote]


That modem (like almost all) should connect fine with a standard straight through cable.  Everything you are doing appears correct. Could you get your hands on an Ethernet switch and try connecting everything via that?

Sometimes a pair of devices will not like a direct connection but will work fine through a switch or hub? But is you have had the devices talking before this is unlikely. 

Other thing to look at is the NIC card driver setting in your PC, occasionally it is necessary to set Speed and Duplex manually but usually the auto options are best.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=BlueGirl]I was thinking there was something wrong with the modem[/quote]

You'd be very right thinking that, it is unlikely to be anything else given you've exhaustively tested different options.


[quote=BlueGirl]so phoned my ISP and they tested it over the phone(not sure how)[/quote]

There is no way they can test over the phone unless there is a working device on the other end of the modem's Ethernet.


[quote=BlueGirl](also if it's the modem don't know why it works with 1 device and not 5 others)
[/quote]


Odd's on the port is on it's way out. And Electrically the notebook is close enough to establish a connection. You did say you had done an ipconfig and a network check on each device. Even with an IP mismatch the link lights should be on if thelectrically all is ok and drivers have initialised.


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			<description><![CDATA[Anything from Netgear or Linksys would be more than adequate for what you are after.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Wired Ethernet will always be easier to configure, will offer better reliability and transfer speed. You'd be luck to get wireless to off equivalence to 10/100 Ethernet let alone the Gigabit Ethernet you are considering.

Wireless however offers lots of convenience, even if it signals quickly deteriorate or vanish between multiple internal walls and obstacles. 

And remember plug in cables only, it's only a matter of time before some ex PMG type races in to warn you that you must use a licensed cabler to install all the in-wall love.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[http://apcmag.com/comms_regulator_cracks_down_on_dodo.htm

http://apcmag.com/dodo_internet_in_complaint_crisis.htm

http://apcmag.com/beware_of_dodos_free_broadband.htm

http://apcmag.com/dodo_joins_the_mobile_internet_race.htm

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]Who is going to want to watch a quarter or a half of a show?[/quote]

The kind of folks who can be convinced watching TV on 2.5" screen could be a worthwhile experience, I guess.  Folks with lots of time on their hands, maybe?
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			<description><![CDATA[Next step is to determine which of your 3 PC are wireless enabled. Late model Notebooks probably will be, desktops generally wont be. You will need a wireless device for each PC.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Michael J]chances are the 'wireless router' has ethernet ports as well as wireless.[/quote]


True! My advice usually is to avoid wireless unles you absoluty have no other option, but most who ask will ignore that same advice.

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]I'm surprised that APC hasn't had any coverage [/quote]

Was thinking the same thing.


[quote=Aubrey]and has therefore denied an opportunity for the opinionated rabble to[/quote]

clues optional as always.


[quote=Aubrey]Surely this is a much bigger story for the future of the on Australian online community than the doomed and stupid internet filter that generates so much chat?[/quote]

Both issues have the potential to make a huge impact on the lives of every internet user.


[quote=Aubrey]I'll start by saying it is the best decision by a government on telecomms policy for a good twenty years [/quote]

I wouldn't go that far and despite most of the motivation for the decision being based on an NBN promise versus reality scenario, I do actually think this is a good thing to happen.


[quote=Aubrey]it undoes a series of very bad decisions by both the Keating and Howard Governments[/quote]

It rectifies some (not all) of the mistakes made by prior governments.


[quote=Aubrey]and brings the prospect of a genuine NBN a whole lot closer.
[/quote]

Which NBN is this? The fibre to everywhere promised NBN or some far more logical hybrid based on diverse technologies, much like all those with a clue had proposed to Rudd and Conroy in the first instance?


[quote=Aubrey]I'm thinking of nominating Senator Conroy for some sort of humanitarian award[/quote]

I still think the man would be better suited to space travel. Interested parties with sufficent quantities of gun powder please make reasonable offers.


[quote=Aubrey]preferably to be conferred on the same day he does announce the total failure of the filter trial[/quote]

I think there will be plenty of failure to provide and cost over-run announcements to be made over the coming months, a few more of those and the award idea may well end up as a hasy idea much like the NBN itself.


[quote=Aubrey]and tells Family First where[/quote]

family who?

in all seriousness this breakup of wholesale and retail has to happen, unfair monopoly strangulation has existed for far to long, a situation which should never been allow to happen.
And of course we haven't worked out the costs to the community of implementation.

As it is the government announcement is corporate bastardry over a private organisation, but given Telstras running sheet i have little sympathy and i doubt others will to.


Yes it's a decision that had to happen, but this decision alone is not the whole answer.

There is a mess load of capacity in existing copper and priority must lay with equitable delivery of this rather than with silly 10 year announcement of future utopia. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Flaming.Cowboy]In other words, there's no easy way to accomplish what I stated above?[/quote]


That depends entirely on what you regard as easy. GL's advice was right. You will need some extra processing power, but that can come in a box not much larger than your current broadband router.


[quote=Flaming.Cowboy]Guess they'll just have to sign-up for their own wireless broadband then... [/quote]

That is your choice, no solution will be perfect but there is affordable solution to achieve what you are after. Even if they may take a little effort to get happening.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Serious Sam]Did some searching but am royally confused.[/quote]

Welcome to broadband in AU


[quote=Serious Sam]I mean every one seems good but then i am not sure about the reliability and cost aspect. [/quote]

You are unsure with good reason, there are lots whose performance does not match the claims.
For wired broadband, I'd suggest Internode, iiNet, Optus would be a good shortlist to start from.


[quote=Serious Sam]I am currently located in west sydney.[/quote]

Again welcome to Australian broadband's vagaries and to the treachery of Telstra's management of the copper network. Address is no guarantee you can even get a service, even with the neighbors on both sides wired up. The only way to be sure you can be connected is to put in an application and wait for results. Bizarre i know, but that's how it works. First things you learn is don't take no for an answer, stand your ground and read (and understand) any contract you going to sign.

Hopefully your connect will not be as difficult as i have outlined but for many (regardless of Address) this is still the case.

You may hear fanciful ramblings about a government broadband fibre network on the way, it is predicted to happen but so is the melt of polar ice caps. The time frames for each of these events is equally vague and distant.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]You can make a mockery of me[/quote]

Only if you say something stupid (or dangerous) would that happen.


[quote=apt.pupil]and the only company...( insert random AU postcode here)...  who could service me were Telstra.[/quote]

That may look like a bouquet initially, but if you look into why so many exchanges are restricted to Telstra only you'd be somewhat less impressed. The simple reality is your paying more for less because your exchange has been made unprofitable for other competitors.


[quote=apt.pupil]3 years later, i can now get Optus, Westnet, iinet, and Internode, but none of them offer the speed that Telstra does for me, since my ADSL 2+ is too far away. [/quote]

Huh? ADSL2+ is ADSL2+, your connection is either capable of support it or not. Electrons care little for brands or marketing.  The more likely scenario (without looking up your exchange) is that competitors are locked out from installing equipment and providing a better service by any one of a number of Telstra excuses. The competitors you quote are probable limited to Telstra resale from your exchange. And guess who can manipulate those prices?


[quote=apt.pupil]i am currently on a 50GB plan. it is expensive, but there is no confusion. if i go over[/quote]

Damn straight it is expensive, as you are exposed to more gotchas and ways to whittle off that 50GB than you would be with almost any other service provider.  I can well understand your deciding (being forced into) a Telstra or Bigpond connection at location X. But don't for ones second think you are getting value or that you are receiving the best service that could be obtained under truly competitive access.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]not quite true

i am on an ADSL2+ plan, but my service is ADSL2, because of my distance from the exchange- that makes me unservicable to most providers[/quote]

Rubbish! your more likely victim of the selective result sets from the line test process.
Your distance from the exchange is the same regardless of whose DSLAM your connected to.


[quote=apt.pupil]My available linespeed according to the telstra systems is up to a maximum of 8MBit/s[/quote]

And that level of attenuation will be the same regardless of whose DSLAM your connected to.



[quote=apt.pupil]yet i have days where that can bump up to almost full cpacity[/quote]

Which indicates that losses due to your distance from the exchange is not the major cause of attenuation. Could be time to drop ouija board theories and take a good look at how the line is terminated at your end.


[quote=apt.pupil]so i believe i am bouncing between serviceability on the plans.[/quote]

Beleive what you will the reality however is your variations in line speed are not the result of distance. Are you some days closer to the exchange?


[quote=apt.pupil]but unlike the other providers i have no excess use charges[/quote]

That claim is simply nonsense, whilst Telstra reluctantly now offer capped plans they were the last to adopt them. Telstra still put forward many open ended plans for the unwary. And while on the subject you may wish to take a look at which data you are charged for in reaching that cap.
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[quote=apt.pupil]believe it or not- i am not the only perons who uses a Telstra DSL2+ service in the 5 and a half K's to my exchange. Ever consider THAT may be a factor?[/quote]

Well no actually. With cable perhaps where the medium is shared. But you are the sole user of ADSL2+'s allocated line speed. Inadequate contingency ratios will affect throughput (ask any subscriber of extinct bird Internet), but your line speed will stay right up there even with throughput like porridge through a straw.


[quote=apt.pupil]however the most important thing for me is minimal line noise and latency, not the actual speed, so to speak[/quote]

Then one has to wonder why you are concerned by the numbers of subscribers in your geographic area. Do you have a central filter? But it's fine you go chasing ghosts.


[quote=apt.pupil]i need my speed to be fast enough to play my games relatively lag- free,[/quote]

Need? Games? Just as well its for something that important.



[quote=apt.pupil]I went through a 2 month long investigation with Telstra[/quote]

With Telstra being the investigator and the one who have have to pay money for any rectification right? You getting the picture yet?


[quote=apt.pupil]and what came out of the investigation was that i simply live too far away from the DSLAM exchange to get what could be considered broadband internet speeds[/quote]

And yet you said yourself you were attaining ADSL2 level speeds, basic ADSL itself is classed as broadband Internet. I can quote a similar instance where a customer happy with an existing connection was refused a connection on 2nd line due to distance and told that their existing connection would not be reconnected if applied for again. Funny that, even funnier when more expensive and less capable wireless Internet was pushed, by Telstra, towards that customer.


[quote=apt.pupil]you said it right there. 9/10 ISPs in my area operate through the Telstra exchange[/quote]

No! 9/10 of the ISP have little operation but to operate via the Telstra DSLAM, all copper connection operate through Telstra exchanges it's an effective monopoly.


[quote=apt.pupil]The rest of the factors i have researched that explain my physical down and uplink speeds are: distance, congestion, line packet switching, and (unlikely in this case) Telstra themselves.[/quote]

distance - Yes

congestion - No

Line packet switching - no

Telstra - Yes


[quote=apt.pupil]and personally take offense to the fact you see me as being comparable to a 109 year old who is playing with their first computer. Believe it or not- i was not born yesterday, i was born 21 years ago,[/quote]

Take offense all you wish, but in ether case age has nothing to do with knowledge or ability. Random an incorrect assumptions are just that at 21 or 109.


[quote=apt.pupil]and am more than able to do a little bit of independent research[/quote]

Oh really? Even when other providers are battling to extract withheld information from Telstra.



[quote=apt.pupil]Believe it or not, i do not live remote either.[/quote]


On that one I believe you 100%, it's a great pity the Internet provision debate always degenerates to CBD verses the remotest outback. The simple reality is we still suffer haphazard broadband availability throughout urban and major regional population centres. Something Mr Conroys $30M spend has done nothing to address.

 [quote=apt.pupil]I have even got the address of the exchange i am getting my internet from[/quote]

Useful common knowledge, however a geograhical address is no guarantee of cable length, as for TDR figure you can only guess on the approximations you equipment gives or accept whatever numbers Telstra wishes to disclose.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]but that is currently out of my budget range to install a THIRD line into my address- and then pay the costs of a central filter splitter installation[/quote]

third line? why? You do not need another line to utilise a central filter and have the usually poor premises wiring improved/repaired/optimised.


[quote=apt.pupil]gotten a fully wireless setup from the router to connect the internet[/quote]

and this will be better/quicker than good Cat5e/Cat6 how exactly?



[quote=apt.pupil]Who else could i pay to get this inspected?[/quote]

well no-one, Telstra has you screwed! You and the rest of the population! You take what your given, but after decades of communications policy you are now allowed not to like it. Not that that makes a bit of difference. Best tool is to lobby like hell, but your getting basic ADSL speeds and your complaint is mostly latency, good luck, and don't hold your breath unless blue is your colour.


[quote=apt.pupil]Also note that in my area- the only company who can actually give me the optimum speeds are telstra themselves.[/quote]

Maybe so but for this they deserve no bouquet, the reality is mostly that that in your exchange like many others Telstra has made it impossible/uneconomical for competitors to operate from.


[quote=apt.pupil]Other internet options is wireless-[/quote]

which for you and thousands of others is not a practical options. Forget the latency, consider what the data over-runs would slug your hip pocket.


[quote=apt.pupil]Also note that your condescending way of talking is what gives me the impressions that i get.[/quote]

I'd have considered I was typing, but as for condescension well lets just say the attitude of "I'm 21 and i know everything" is long past being an amusement.  If you wish to take every comment as insult that's your prerogative, if you wish to ignore advice that's your choice too.


[quote=apt.pupil]One other little fact i have been avoiding to mention is the other purpose for my internet connection is that i run a VoIP server through a backup pc.[/quote]

Why avoiding, is Conroy trying to filter that too?


[quote=apt.pupil]I avoided it before because i did not want to start a security argument again[/quote]

VOIP has nothing to do with security, it will operate perfectly and without loss or interruption behind even the most basic of hardware firewall. What you regarded as argument was an absolute rejection of your suggestions to others that it would be OK to ignore PC security. Something that was wrong on so many levels.


[quote=apt.pupil]lately i do not have the patience to put up with this bs.[/quote]

then perhaps you should consider that other take to a barrage of attitude in response to a simple and much required correction.


[quote=apt.pupil]weary of my current job, its stress levels being inflicted upon me, and the lack of benefits for even doing it [/quote]

Oh poor you. And this is an APC reader problem how exactly. You have Internet availability that others here could only dream of a, a job etc, etc, etc.  If ping speeds and having to actually make an effort at work are your biggest worries you really have no worries of consequence.  Who knows the people at work you give the attitude to may be trying to help too.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]well, the last time i checked, a cate 5e/cat6 does not fit to well in my door[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]i really can not see the point in running a 50m cord in a loop through the roof of my house[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]and the wallplate in my room for an rj45 does not work.[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]this becomes a matter of cost[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]for the 2-3 weeks while waiting for an Electrician to have the spare time to install it all.[/quote]

Is that it for the excuses? I've offered you several realistic options improve your connection speed and reliability. 50m cord in a loop? What tha? RJ45 does not work, electricians in spare time? Weeks of down time? What the hell are you on about? Any good cabler can have a new filter installed on your existing line and new dedicated sockets installed within an hour or two tops. You could be shooting away at online aliens while he did most of it and would likely not be off line for more than 10 minutes. You cannot be bothered fixed anything you could do something about why would anybody be bothered taking your line speed ghost chases too seriously?  In so many cases better termination ands isolation of telephone devices at a poor ADSL connection will double the connection speed but your 21 years knows it all.  Suit yourself.


[quote=apt.pupil]Being with Telstra, there are NO excess usage charges,[/quote]

And that applies to Telstra wireless how?


[quote=apt.pupil]he fact that i deliberatley have port forwarding and kaspersky's software firewall set up to leave holes in the firewall means nothing in the means of security to you?[/quote]

It means nothing at all in the context of you suggesting to others that leaving systems open was of little risk.


[quote=apt.pupil]he last time i got a report on a Linux based malware code was nearly 8 years ago- but that is another "disagreement" altogether. lets drop that subject right here[/quote]

Then why bring it up? But what reports you have got are not measures of the reality of risk, the likely hood of attack or of your suggestions that Windows could also be just fine unprotected.


[quote=apt.pupil]You DO know that i work as a Telstra Dealer, right?[/quote]

No but the partial knowledge along with a dose of assumed arrogance suggested you frequented some such establishment. 


[quote=apt.pupil]i have to put up with [/quote]


Oh poor you! It's you and only you right? I offered you practical measures that wan/will increase your system performance, but if you know best, and refuse to fix what you can fix while chasing the impossible, then go right ahead. It wont slow any of my systems one iota. 

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]lo and behold- i was onto the phone to Telstra, and my sparky mate every second week[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]the only way to solve a problem is to do it yourself. the end- user is the cause and solution to most of the problems.[/quote]

How do those go together. Only a fool believe he has all the answers.



[quote=apt.pupil]more like i will have to replace it regularly because my door will kill the cable[/quote]

[quote=apt.pupil]i lived in a caravan that had the cord running through a steel door,[/quote]

Why the insistence in cables through doors, or is that how its done in Qld?


[quote=apt.pupil]before i got told by a resident licensed PC repairer that neither Cat5e or RJ45 will work over the distance[/quote]

license in PC repair?  RJ45 distance?  Cat5e or more correctly Ethernet over Cat5e is good for 100m the distance from telephone connection point to your PC exceeds this isn't a suburban double brick house/caravan? Nothing an intermediate switch would not have fixed if it did which I very much doubt.


[quote=apt.pupil]and am scared off by the ongoing costs of replacing expensive lead[/quote]

$80 for 305m yeah the expense must be a killer. Other than the Qld practice of through door wiring why would it ever have to be replaced?



[quote=apt.pupil]as opposed to the advantages of having a wireless network to connect my mobile phone, PS3, and PC all on at the one time[/quote]

And have them all compete for the likely 10Mbit of likely possible wireless bandwidth. And there you have yet another reason why your robbing a server of bandwidth. But hey you know best.


[quote=apt.pupil]I am talking the time it takes for my sparky to have the time to come and do it for me. He is very busy[/quote]

And how does that equate to days of downtime, requirements for third lines etc?


[quote=apt.pupil]that was not my intention. What the point[/quote]

The point is you offered very bad advice and were corrected. You can pontificate till the cows come home, offer up all sorts of malarkey the simple fact is [b]"No machine should be exposed to the Internet unprotected ever"[/b] end of story no need to reply.

[quote=apt.pupil]It was actually the Telstra iternal training that turned the convoluted mess of "industry terms" into relatively understandable english[/quote]

yeah right, along with their automated customer response system. Raindog simply shakes his head. Some people just don't want to be helped.
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			<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:39:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Serious Sam]then do let me know If there is something that I am missing here[/quote]

In short yes there is.

Libel laws and all that I wont directly pan a provider, suffice to say Dodo are probably overrepresented in customer complaint statistics by a factor of two to one. I'd do quick google search of dodo + complaint or have a look through some of the related whirlpool and APC threads.

TPG have cleaned their act somewhat but are still aiming at that bottom dollar section of the market and offer call centre support etc that reflects that. Contention ratios etc may not be TPGs greatest strength.

I suggest you take at look Internode or iiNet for the best all round experience, they offer comparative the best value, with throughput to match the line speeds at all hours of the day and night.  Their sales support will also offer a lot more in explaining their packages and what's is required for naked DSL etc. 



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			<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:25:30 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>show down cheap switches</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Bottom rung 10/100 un-managed switches are a dime a dozen, any reputable brand will do the job perfectly. 
At the price point it is worth looking for the few Gig Ethernet switches that are beginning to hit the same low price floor even if some of your present equipment is still 10/100. Again stick with the better brands they'll generally run cooler and last longer Linksys (Cisco) and Netgear both produce mostly quality stuff. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:18:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Weren't you claiming yours was a Telstra/Bigpond only exchange and that this was your only option? hmm?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:27:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Michael J]
omfg will you please just drop that![/quote]

Nup! :)


[quote=Michael J]you've been going on about it for two weeks.[/quote]

Longer actually. :)


[quote=Michael J]as you can clearly see here, he says he can only get good speeds[/quote]

Which is in stark contrast to prior claims. Which bit to trust/believe?  Tell you what I'll choose to question either!
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 18:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]So Raindog ........................... would you kindly tell me if [/quote]

I'd be bothered to if there was even the tiniest chance you'd listen..


[quote=apt.pupil]where anyone who goes wholesale for their services through telstra are just as untrustworthy[/quote]

You know, what I don't get is why you bother asking when you already believe you have all the answers?



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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=apt.pupil]you know you can be a real knob sometimes Raindog.[/quote]

Hey if honesty cuts, that's your issue. Like I said why ask a question when you refuse to even consider the answers offered?


[quote=apt.pupil]i asked an honest question[/quote]

You've asked many questions should I disregard everything else you said about your situation and just offer random isolated answers?


[quote=apt.pupil]however the problem i have is that i have little alarm bells going off in my head. i don't know why[/quote]

so what answer are you expecting? given you'd likely know better than anything offered. You've stated you request speed previously, and yet you seemed determined to do anything about the bits you actually could improve.


[quote=apt.pupil]and the simple fact that i WILL HAVE TO SACRIFICE A LITTLE SPEED[/quote]

Why?

[quote=apt.pupil]my argument in the previous thread was for the speed[/quote]

so now you are not concerned with speed? what gives?



[quote=apt.pupil]What i was asking was for confirmation that my alarm bells are intuition[/quote]

But you don't listen to the answers.  In your excitement you've still stated everything but what you wish to achieve? 

 
[quote=apt.pupil]or just a built up distaste of a company who deals with telstra DSLAMs through wholesale[/quote]

Me thinks you've been reading a little too much in house propaganda. But hey why listen to people that have arranged 100's of connections what would they know.


[quote=apt.pupil]and the lack of actual support when its needed. [/quote]

And this one shows your naivety, for the best part established resell  ISPs will offer a far better support experience than Bigpond. But hey why believe me, why no google search the last APC survey. 


[quote=apt.pupil]as uncomfortable as i find it- i can learn to live with going down to a 1500 connection- provided i know i am going into a good deal. [/quote]

If you cannot be sure what you want, how can anyone else know?
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:53:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>For Sale :HTC MAX 4G....$440/</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[b]Like anyone would want to commit funds to a spam link without a website, or a street address, just a yahoo mailbox.

Spam,Spam,Spam......Spam,Spam,Spam........Spamdiddy Spam.[/b]]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:34:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Lack of Space</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Has the world financial crisis finally hit at APC? 

All the news item post appear to be stripped of spaces, line feeds, returns and other formatting characters.

I know times are tough but even during such a crisis, I'm sure display of formatting could still be possible. :>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:35:04 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]I understand your frustration;[/quote]


I'm not sure you do Peter.


[quote=petert]there are many people on these fora providing valuable feedback and assistance[/quote]


Indeed, and all power to them. It's the stuff that benefits others.


[quote=petert]so I try to overlook spelling, grammar, punctuation, layout and the like. [/quote]


My particular comment was that after recent modifications replies had appeared as a congealed blob. My comment were more in regard to readability than any comment on the regular sightings of incoherent grammar.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:45:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Lack of Space</title>
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			<guid>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1060</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[IsupposeyoucangetusedtotextthatisallruntogetherwithoutlinebreaksorotherpunctuationWellwhynottheproponentsofsmsspeakmayevenseeitasapositiveboon.
AfterawhileIguessitlljustbecomesecondnature.Stillitsnotexactlyreaderfriendly.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:09:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Lack of Space</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This latest release of APC forum software has proved a real shocker.

Apart from the stripping of formatting in news item replies, 
- the report to admin function has now ceased to function, 
- the random page refresh that trashes replies mid sentence is worse than ever. 
- the reply counters are inaccurate, 
- the favicon file is missing from the RSS feed
- often haphazard email notifications have ceased completely

in short this latest software is a turkey and a very poor reflection on APC.  ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:41:00 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Lack of Space</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[And then as if by magic, the regular insertion of "<br>" is no longer required.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:24:02 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>RSS spamming - multipage articles</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[The RSS links in question all relate to articles which had been published previously on the apcmagpro site.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:45:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Automatic Refresh</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[It's mighty frustrating Dan.

As a workaround (suggested elsewhere), it's a good idea to make sure you do log on prior to replying. That way after the damn refresh, your pearls of wisdom will still be in the reply box.

The old Ctrl-A Ctrl-C routine will save a few tears too, even if it shouldn't be necessary. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:02:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Automatic Refresh</title>
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			<guid>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1075</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[You'll find that is a very popular modification Dan. Thanks to all working to better the site.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:42:15 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Automatic Refresh</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[As usual the vandals have arrived for their daily round of threats and bullying and intimidation. And as usual those same bullies show themselves as cowards of the first order.

Reasonable behavior is all that is required, but for some this clearly is not possible!]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:15:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Automatic Refresh</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Post your personal email address then or does your cowardice prevent you from doing so :P[/quote]

Yes cowards!  Cowardly (although wholly ineffectuctual) and disruptive bullies!

Email address? There is an email address in my profile, feel free to message there.

Alternatively anything else you wish to say to me you could say via APC I am sure they could view and forward any message you should wish to send.

We can strike this up as another tick on your tally of personal threats.  

[b]Why are you incapable of reasonable behavior? [/b]
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:00:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Automatic Refresh</title>
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			<guid>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=1075</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Door2Door]Trolls and the juveniles that respond to their bait, I am not sure who is worse.[/quote]

You could add to that list those that chime in and perpetuate the nonsense! 

Apologies D2D and others, no-one wants to read any of this stuff.  It isn't necessary or helpful and it IS going to be stopped and banished along with all these tedious posts.
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:13:22 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>NSFW - APC endorsement?</title>
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			<guid>http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&amp;t=983</guid>
			<description><![CDATA[[quote=doofus]Or have I missed an interesting issue of the paper magazine somewhere along the way? [/quote]


From the look of the URL, your mind may wellhave been on other things during the circulation of past APC issues.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:52:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Are the forums moderated?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=randall flynn]_______________________________
Randall Flynn
Make Money[/quote]


You forgot one Randall! What about removing spammers and those who use the forum for self promotion and advertisement.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:16:03 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Merry Christmas!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Merry Christmas and bug-free best wishes to Dan and the APC team, and to all who participate in these forums (yes even the fan-boys).

Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow we must diet.  The seafood awaits........
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:09:45 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Influx of spam</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Tin]So is "yoseph" a spambot or a real person that just can't work the APC website?[/quote]


The author or instigator of one of the world's lamest and most ineffective DOS attacks from all accounts. A quick yank of the chain and over 1800 yoseph mails flushed from the spam filter.  The email domain exists but isn't assigned to any IP.

There will be plenty more of these toads from time to time, best bet is to have your systems ready.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:21:48 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Article comments need datestamps</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Date stamping would definately be an improvement, as would be indication of revisions. A linear format may work better with all replies listed chronologically and a reference link to any quoted post.
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:47:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Are the forums moderated?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]Everyone is entitled to their opinions without someone else jumping[/quote]

And equally anyone is entitled to question opinions or replies.

[quote=Me In Oz]without someone else jumping in and appointing himself as a moderator [/quote]

No-one is playing moderator. But a noisy few have taken offence to any criticism of their own narrow points of view.

[quote=Me In Oz]If this was the case, no one would have a valid case to post any facts.[/quote]

No there is a platform here to freely express opinion, equally there is a platform to discuss or question replies.

[quote=Me In Oz]While I and others have pursued issues we have had with a certain member[/quote]

By pursuing issues you mean you and a few others attempted (unsuccessfully) to suppress a viewpoint that differed from your own? And you do not need to hide in your replies, that certain person you mention is myself.

I have every right to question your statements and replies as equally you have the right to question mine. The great pity is that this has not been done without insult and counter insult.

[quote=Me In Oz]I don't think ours or his comments should be moderated and censored.[/quote]

For civil comments that relative to the topic or to related issues you are quite correct. But if you take time to read the T&C you will see that any personal insults should indeed be moderated.

[quote=Me In Oz]We're adults and a good verbal stoush does not imply any harm to anyone. [/quote]

Indeed I'd welcome a good stoush from time to time. But insult and accusation are neither good nor adult. In the windows XP vs Vista thread I asked repeatedly for reasons to support an argument with not a single adult reply to support that case. A good supporting argument would have been adult and of value. The resultant insult and counter insult were not good value to anyone.

[quote=Me In Oz]This is why I like visiting APC and not the heavily censored abc.net.au ![/quote]

I'll agree with you wholeheartedly that one of the sites strength currently is a lack of over-moderation, and ask you to consider if this is likely to continue if individuals are sought out for ridicule or special attention, or if particular interest groups wish to achieve aims like "were just here to annoy you", to the perpetual annoyance of other users. Why do you think forums such as ABC SMH and Whirlpool have become so heavily moderated often to the point that it has destroyed much of their value?

The level of moderation will, in the end, depend on how you, me and others conduct ourselves. I'd prefer things as they are, I have no intent not to question viewpoints but have decided to use that "report abuse" button in preference to returning any counter insult.

I welcome opinions that differ from my own  and welcome my comments being questioned as long as this can occur in the manner of an adult debate.

[quote=Me In Oz]And as for moderators, do we get to vote them in or[/quote]

Moderation is not the enforcement of popular opinion, a vote may not result in the best candidate, and remember this is APCs forum so it up to them how they choose to manage it.

Let's keep this light hearted and of benefit to all participants. 
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:01:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]So if APC's advertising money is mainly due to Microsoft, will we see Apple and Linux comments 'moderated' to suit ? ......... See the danger here ?[/quote]

I dont see any evidence of that having happened, and I'd be one of the first to walk if it did. APC staffers have declared their biases and preferences, and there is a good mix of those opinions. but I see no instances where comments have been bought.  This forum has catogories for Apple/PC/Linux and has active participation in all these. Where is the danger in that?

[quote=Me In Oz]You do ! But not parody someone's comments word-by-word under the auspices of trying to be funny[/quote]

Seriously here, why not? You have stated that you'd prefer an adult platform that is not heavily moderated. (as do I)  
Is opinion so precious that it cannot be challenged or contested. Is the forum to be staid and humourless or restricted to a single brand of humour?
If a dumb comment is made why can't it be declared as dumb? As long as it can be done in a civil and non personal manner.

[quote=Me In Oz]There you go again ! Narrow points of view ? ....... Because you don't agree with it ![/quote]

No narrow because those are points of view that seek out to silence others. You cannot deny that a considerable effort was levied to silence anti vista points of view.  It's the name calling, personal insults and hijacking that usually forces the need for moderation.

[quote=Me In Oz]We don't need moderators to decide what is 'narrow' or 'broad'[/quote]

No but moderation may be required if threads are continually hijacked to a point where a topic or topics routinely become lost in personal spats.

[quote=Me In Oz]We had already said a few times to log on to any gaming and Vista fanboy site for the answer ![/quote]

I have no interest in such site. My interest in in this site.


[quote=Me In Oz]But for your benefit, Raindog, here is mine ..............
I like Vista because it is the ONLY option as a gaming platform for the PC. With tweaking it can encompass every game ever made.[/quote]

Seriously thanks for that, those were the kind of responses I was asking for, and there is a level of reasoning behind your statements.

There is no reason why differing points of view cannot be put forward, and equally no reason why opinions cannot be challenged in a light hearted manner.  How this is ideal is achieved will determine what level of moderation is utimately adopted. Cheers and thanks for making the effort to offer a reply.


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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:41:42 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Declared as dumb by who ? You ?[/quote]

Yeah or by whoever wishes to contribute.

[quote=Your Average Joe]You have obviously 'declared' my post on owning a Toshiba laptop as 'dumb' and have derided it.[/quote]

No I haven't declared your post as anything? I did declare the colour and styling of the Toshiba s tacky to the extreme.  I see all the machines technical merit undersold by its tacky interior. Beauty is after all in the eye of the beholder.

[quote=Your Average Joe]I have purposely not reported your comments as 'abuse'[/quote]

My comments were not intended as abuse, and I apologise if you have taken it personally, that was not the intention. 

[quote=Your Average Joe]and have left it there for you to enjoy your version of moderation and adjudication[/quote]

Moderation? Adjudication? I'm sorry YAJ but how is that in any way moderation? It's an opinion that may not align with your own. It doesn't mention your mother or army boots, so it's hardly abusive. 

[quote=Your Average Joe]Keep in mind that I actually own one of these and have a better foundation to base my comments on its benefits and features ![/quote]

You've got me there! No I've never owned a red computer, and hopefully never will. If the thing had a slick modern finish I may well be jealous of it, but then I've been around long enough to know that before long every new thing becomes next years model. If your happy with it that's great and something you can express for all to hear. 

Be careful what you ask for, an environment where noone can mock the red exterior of a flame red Toshiba would also be an environment where poking fun at Linux or Mac and PC is  forbidden. 
Dan's approach to a fair go is a good one, a bit of give and take all round is all that is required.

Cheers.


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			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:12:33 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Come On APC ! Not Happy Jan (Dan) !</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've had very few issue with the site, none that couldn't be worked around anyway, but in general the site is far from cutting edge in performance, speed or functionality.

I don't have a grab list of ill placed demands of what someone else's site should do for me, however I am curious to why APC has chosen to re-invent the wheel for what on the surface at least is a fairly common online forum environment?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:17:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Maxxx]shoud have won a prize[/quote]

should have won  a prize?  or won a prize and did not receive it? If it's not the latter well I'd guessthat the judges decision is final.


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			<description><![CDATA[Why add a poll with such a limited range of answer options?  

The current "Will you buy Win 7?" poll has a list of option that look like the work of NWAT.

Where is the option for wait and see what emerges that I'd guess many would choose.  Multiple choice with a limited or restrictive range of answers will never return a meaningful result.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[I'll comment the existing options.


Hell yes : This one is on the money, some will buy by badge alone regardless of what the product delivers.

No - XP for me:
No - had it with Vista:

These options are for the Windowphiles, but where is the option for those that have made the investment and will probably stick with Vista. (who know someone must be happy with Vista) There are no doubt some that are still happy with W2K and even a few brave souls still content with Win9x

I prefer Linux/Mac OS X: Or BSD etc. And what of the reality that many will use these and some form of Windows.

Depends on reviews: Reviews would be only one of the possible criteria used to evaluate Win7 before purchase.

And what about the option for the cautious sit and wait brigade who will possibly adopt Win7 but will let the bleeding edgers battle the driver incompatibility and risk their $$$ on a possible VistaII.

The NWAT comparison wasn't suggesting APC wished to drive the poll results (Telstra style) it was more a suggestion that the options were restrictive and likely to produce false results. I hope this feedback is taken as constructive.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]Maybe we should just let Raindog run this forum ;) [/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]It would seem you have enough time out of your hectic IT day to dessimate and ridicule others' comments line-by-line ![/quote]

It takes very little effort to refute emotive arguments and to reply to your feeble and perpetual attempts to ridicule or to write personally abusive comments.


[quote=Your Average Joe]I'll start a new thread on the website feedback and see how many readers are just plain sick of Raindog and his doom and gloom comments ![/quote]

Your intolerance to diversity of opinion and your wishes for a mutual appreciation society are duly noted.  Your fear of contradictory opinion demonstrates your personal failing and your doubt and uncertainty in the barrow you choose to push.
Clearly you are incapable of polite behavior in an adult forum.  

My opinion is of no less value, regardless of how many ignorant fan-boys you wish to conscript in attempts to shout me down. It's just your demonstration of your deep set personal ignorance.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=SLi]His comments are necessarily all doom and gloom,[/quote]

No I call it as I see it.


[quote=SLi]he has some positive comments on some technologies,[/quote]

Yes that's called balance.


[quote=SLi]but I too, get a bit sick of his negative comments. [/quote]

Sick of my comments? Perhaps I get get a little sick of personal abuse from the likes of you.  To quote just one example below. 


[quote=SLi featuring just one of many personal attacks]
When, Raindog, was the last time you used your innovative mind to create a product of use to others in the world? You may not see the usefulness of this new technology, and may not have the brain capacity to fully comprehend the idea of using a 2D interface as a 3D interface, but that's simply no reason to try and force your highly judgemental opinion on other people in the forum. [/quote]

Comment about brain capacity? Was that necessary? Was that called for? Does such a comment fall within a sensce of free speech or fair play? Does your comment comply with the forum terms and conditions?


[quote=SLi]Instead of discussing what the benefits and saying nice stuff about the innovative companies[/quote]

Opinion yes but much of what is passed of as new technology is neither new or innovative. You do not have to agree with that assertion, but you do yourself and nobody else favours by resorting to personal attacks when you disagree with a comment.


[quote=SLi]he'd rather pull the new "demoed" tech to bits,[/quote]

It's called critcal analysis. If a tech can stand up to something as feeble as a forum comment then it is hardly innovative.


[quote=SLi]and then when I asked him to keep his dirty opinion out of the forum [/quote]

And ther you have it in one, "dirty opinion", was that called for? what is that other than a personal attack? And more to the point what elevates your opinion as any more important than mine or anybody elses? And what gives you the right to attempt to suppress ideas you do not agree with?

 
[quote=SLi]because it wasn't appreciated, he comes back with statements which are barely arguments.[/quote]

No! Because you made numerous attacks I chose to micro analyse your post and to refute the many holes in your argument. If you had not made a habit of making such personal attack I would have not bothered to do so. And note also that I did not return the personal abuse!


[quote=SLi]Raindog's opinion at this point in time is not highly appreciated by myself[/quote]

And that is your opinion, if you were capable of expressing such opinions without the included personal abuse, you would not have drawn such attention.

I'd like to apologise to Tin, Agami and others who have likely been annoyed by volleys within these forums.  I appreciate their balanced and reasoned input. On the other hand I am not about to tolerate the endless volley of personal abuse some choose to aim at mine or any opinion they disagree with.

Choice is yours Lads, be polite, or be prepared to stand your ground, I've not backed down from cheap attacks in the past and I am not about to start now! 
Want a better forum? Then desist with the personal attack and bullying of others!
I only chastise bullies, and I can do so without the rudeness and name calling!  Work it out and show some respect to others, lest your posts and rudeness suffer similar micro examination!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]I am not tired of Raindog posts, but I am pissed off by that moron called Sli.[/quote]


Whatever your opinions Halcon,  there is no place for the name calling. "moron" etc. That is a level no-one needs to be drawn to, replying at the level of those who would censor just validates their ignorance and bias.


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Chime in everyone who is sick of [/quote]


Looks like your latest personal attack is floundering YAJ, perhaps that's a sign that civility and acceptance are more likely to be accepted than your calls for forum cencorship..

YAJ you'd do well to listen to Tin's comments above and to show some open minded respect for other forum menbers. Who knows any respect could even be returned with same.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Shall I direct readers to that 300 plus stoush you had with all the Vista fanboys ?[/quote]

And what would be the point of your  that?


[quote=plutonium210]LOL ......... Brilliant !
Lets do it again ! This site is getting a little staid :P[/quote]


No, pointless mischief, name calling from the safety of your keyboard is not brilliant, its nothing more than tedious and annoying behavior.

No, let's not do it again thank you! The site is after all about Computers and information technology, if your interest is solely in creating mischief then I'd suggest you are at the wrong site entirely. 

Your showing a little respect for others would go a long way, and who knows you may even receive some in return!

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Adult forum ? .... Dominated by jaded IT nay-sayers like yourself ?[/quote]


Yes adult forum! A place for polite and adult behavior, diversity of opinion!


[quote=Your Average Joe]As for politeness ? Now there is the pot calling the kettle black ![/quote]


And what reaction would you expect from someone who you are attempting to silence!  You do not have to agree with anything I write, but you have just cause in attempting to suppress it or to decide who should or should not participate. It is that type of behavior that is becoming tedious and bothersome to others!


[quote=Your Average Joe]Replace 'ignorance' with 'intolerance',[/quote]

Well there is really no place for intolerance that seeks to suppress others or to hunt in noisy packs in an effort to shout anyone down.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]The high handed moderation has already started[/quote]

high handed?



[quote=CBR1100XX]with the removal of your 'gloom' thread[/quote]

If you read the forum rules above, you can become familiar with policy on personal attacks.



[quote=CBR1100XX]It seems Raindog is quite the 'protected' species here at APC. [/quote]

What things would seem to you do not necessarily equate with the truth. I'd expect to be a protected species as long as my comments and behavior fell within the written standards for the site.  I would expect the same protection for anyone else who complies, and have no reason to doubt that that is how APC regulates the site.

And for the record I had made no request that the thread was removed, but it was obvious to whoever deleted all trace, that the thread contravened the rules and was not acceptable.
 

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]I think that's what most of us are sick of.[/quote]


It would be interesting to know who this US is?  Most of the feedback, well most of the sensible feedback suggest others have had a gutful of the personality attack, the hijacking of topics and the attempts by some to shout others down. And frankly I'd rather appease those wishes than those of a noisy and myopic minority.



[quote=CBR1100XX]And I believe nothing I have written above is personally abusive .[/quote]


And what singling out and targeting an individual for special attention does not constitute a personal attack in your books?  I am not about to be bullied, shouted down or driven out by any noisy minority. 

If you don't like every minute detail of your comments micro analysed, commented and corrected then perhaps you should think back to some of the personal attack you, and that same noisy minority you refer to as US, have made.  

To claim your wishes as part of any US is simply cowardice. 

If those are your convictions at least be man enough to claim your requests as your own.
You have a curious idea of fair minded and good humoured when you see that should only occur when it's in your own favour. Yo accuse the forum moderation as heavy handed and yet within a few short sentences are calling for the removal of opinion which disagrees with your own.


I've never backed down to bullies and am not about to start!!  Franky everyone, except this vocal us has had a gutful of the collective sniping. One genius a few posts back was even calling for more such mischief.

If you make foolish post and then attempt to shout down anyone who would disagree then expect some cold and somewhat dismissive replies. 
If you don't like such replies then its not too hard to work out what sort of behavior attracts them, and what actions are needed by those who'd wish to avoid such replies. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]Lets all submit a request for this poll to APC and we'll find out !
[/quote]

Submit away.  How inability to participate in an adult manner and your wishes to attempt to dominate discussion will be duly noted.


[quote=CBR1100XX]See above ![/quote]

Still CBR wishes to hide behind the anonymity of the mob,  with a display of cowardice and a failure  to claim ownership of his own biased requests to suppresses a voice he does not care for.


 
[quote=CBR1100XX]I've never made such claims ![/quote]


In this post, and your previous replies you are calling for suppression of any argument you are incapable of addressing.


[quote=CBR1100XX]And stop disseminating others' comments word for word and parodying them.[/quote]

Disseminating? I do not disseminate your words, your bias, your inability to consider alternative opinion or your noisy attempts to gain advantage. As for parody your viewpoint you would have to concede that the views of noisy fanatics leave plenty of scope for humorous analysis of their absurdity.  You have made calls previously for a lighter environment and yet with this response you show your inability to cope with adult concepts or interpretation.



[quote=CBR1100XX]Remember what your mother used to tell you ? [/quote]

I'd remember the advice of several wise people suggesting never to tolerate bullies and that on analysis the loudest and most demonstrative were generally those most subject to cowardice.


[quote=CBR1100XX]"Only speak when you're spoken to"[/quote]

Your mindset is jambed in some Dickensian novel rather than in the reality of how mature and educated adults should participate in group discussion.  You'd be well advised to again consider the requirements made of your in regard to your participation.  Your personal intolerance being the character flaw that prohibits you from participating in a sensible manner.

 
[quote=CBR1100XX]So next time you reply to anyone's comment make sure that you are invited and not take it upon yourself to be a gatecrasher.[/quote]

Again let me to be the one to burst your bubble, I will reply when and where I see fit and I'd expect that others do the same and resist any mob attempts to suppress their responses.   Your request to dominate discussion not by the power of your response but by the level of your calls for suppression are again noted.


 
[quote=CBR1100XX]When I (we) want your opinion, we'll ask for it ! [/quote]

Your want has no coincidence with my desire or action of presenting an opinion.  Again you attempt to suppress others to gain advantage for your noisy and opinionated bias.


[quote=CBR1100XX]Otherwise I find most of your input quite dull and superfluous to my post ![/quote]

You can find opinions of others any way you take them. I will make no effort whatsoever to moderate any opinion match your narrow sense of what is acceptable, your wish to narrow replies to those you enjoy has never been an area of importance.


[quote=CBR1100XX]Tough talk for an anonimous user ![/quote]

That's a curious reply from someone who feels threatened by any opinion that does not coincide with his own, and who is unable to claim his requests as his own and not the voice of the mob.



[quote=CBR1100XX]That's his/her perogative ..[/quote]


Well actually no it is not.  Call for behavior that would clearly fall outside the terms and conditions of the site and more importantly fall outside what would be polite behaviour would be a clear breach.


[quote=CBR1100XX]According to you ?[/quote]


Or according to anyone who chooses to reply, all who are entitle to make their own judgment of your presentation and who are entitled to reply within accepted terms and conditions.


[quote=CBR1100XX]So this is Raindog's New Year's resolution then ?[/quote]


Any resolution I make is my business and mine alone unless I choose to present it for public comment. Was your resolution an attempt to force your views on others by attempting to suppress or shout down anyone who disagreed?]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Come on APC !
Post a prize for the most annoying 'thing' about this site as voted by the users ! [/quote]


Would you be prepared for featuring as a result of such a request. Your calls for participatory mischief would have to rate high on the order of annoyance for readers, moderators and sensible participants.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=SLi]I second that request! [/quote]


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]If APC leaves this thread up we'll soon find out ![/quote]


Your saw how long your last attempt to bully and suppress was allowed to remain. One would have thought you'd be bright enough to work out how long similar attempts to bully and harass would remain.   Your cowardice and insular outlook reflects how you will be judged and that is the sadness that keeps you from polite and sensible participation in this or any forum. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]Raindog ! You're not Dan's love-child are you ? ;-)[/quote]


Well someone has a sense of humour, odd that same sense of humour vanishes the moment roles are reversed.  A parable of glass houses and stones comes to mind.


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]Got a little 'black' book going ?[/quote]

No need, I never forget!


[quote=CBR1100XX]Where as Raindog is all out there on his little lonesome[/quote]

Not alone but confident in my actions, I am quite capable of defending myself with the safety of a mob or the need for constant peer acceptance.  It's called being independent.


[quote=CBR1100XX]Just have another read of your reply to my post ![/quote]

No need, I know exactly the message I made.


[quote=CBR1100XX]You're either blind or just plain ignorant ![/quote]

wild claims and as usual you offer no argument to back your claims up, or was it a vibe you had?


[quote=CBR1100XX]Try some Dickens once in awhile instead of that tome of quotes, your vocabulary will improve immensely ![/quote]

Whereas you'd be better served reading up on manners and polite behavior, come to think of it all the encounter you would be better served if that area was to improve.



[quote=CBR1100XX]And it only takes a minimum of 2 to make an 'US' ! And so this criteria is now met ![/quote]

The trouble is your maximum of four has shown your 'US' to be a noisy and unrepresentative rabble, of spoilt, selfish and disruptive fan-boys upset at their failure to shout someone down.



[quote=CBR1100XX]Thank goodness it is not up to Raindog to adjudicate[/quote]

I've never volunteered for such a role no would I ask for one.


[quote=CBR1100XX](although I still have suspicions).[/quote]


More unfounded and unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, your claims show no base. More to the point you are actively attempting to discredit and manipulate a public for provided by APC as a service to its readers.

[quote=CBR1100XX]Replace 'Your want' with 'Reality' and you've hit the nail on the head ![/quote]


I doubt you'd grasp the concept of reality even if it was presented by others far more eloquent than myself.


 [quote=CBR1100XX]And there's plenty ![/quote]


That is profound. Plenty of what exactly? Or are you now just ranting random insult?


[quote=CBR1100XX]Nothing abusive here APC[/quote]


the T&C is listed below, take a moment to consider the phrase about bias, personal attacks etc. And consider how you desires to suppress the opinions of another participant may fall well outside those guidelines.

<em>We respect your right to air your point of view, whatever it may be.
However, we reserve the right to edit, reject or delete any post that:

    * Links to pirated material;
    * Encourages illegal activity;
    * Makes comments about a person or company that could be defamatory or libelous;
    * Has a threatening or abusive tone to the messages (including personal attacks, racism, sexism, bias against age);
    * Contains foul language;
    * Has been reported as offensive by another reader;
    * Falsely impersonates someone;
    * Has been repetitively posted (same or similar messages);
    * Is spam (commercially promotes a product or service);
    * Is excessively long or poorly formatted;
    * Poses technical or security risks;
    * Includes content of a "for sale" or "wanted to buy" nature;
    * Includes 'referral' links designed to generate commission payments;
    * Is very off-topic from the original discussion.
    * Is inappropriate for the APC website for another reason
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[quote=CBR1100XX]Just facts .[/quote]

Not facts, just your little contribution in an attempt to slur and suppress comment you do not agree with. 
Where does fact enter into your demands for APC to run their forum a particular way? 
Where are the facts that justify your calls for the suppression of opinion which differs from your own? 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]and yet you seem to be the one that is the magnet for all the pro-MS fraternity.[/quote]

how does this justify your actions or your breaches of the T&C and intent of the forum. 
Mob rule is mob rule, and I will not be silenced or bullied by your noisy minority rabble of one eyed cat-calling cowards.


[quote=Me In Oz]Could it be that the rest are quite tolerant of other's opinions (even if they are wrong or silly) and that they don't parody others word for word ?[/quote]

Or could it be that they have not been singled out, the usual tactic of a pack of cowards, you personally have already suggest derision of another of the names you quoted. If I was to tire of your rabble, you would simply set about singling out another respondent. That is simply not going to be allowed to happen.


[quote=Me In Oz]You keep harping about 'treating others the way you would like to be treated', and this would seem the best way to keep this site unmoderated and civil.[/quote]

Indeed! but you have chosen to continually take personal pot shots at every opportunity, so your in no place to complain of any minute detailed analysis of your replies. You've shown know the answer question is are you strong enough to implement it or are you about to return to the safety of a noisy mob?


[quote=Me In Oz]Are you man enough to start ?[/quote]

I will respond as I see fit, and as before will endeavour to keep any contribution within the T&C. My opinions stand and I will never submit to personal attack or mob rule. You can take that as a manhood statement.


[quote=Me In Oz]I'm willing to give it a go ![/quote]

What exactly are you willing to give a go? You'll have to decide that, because personal slurs or attempts to shout down my opinion wont be tolerated, ever!  And pointless interjections like "MACs suck get a PC" or comments about age or  other wild guessing will always be the subject of polite ridicule. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]THIS IS FACT ![/quote]

you evade the fact of how many of these guidelines you have personally crossed in your attempts to single out an individual!   


[quote=CBR1100XX]There is no such demand from APC other than a request (that's request, not demand)[/quote]

Request are usually accompanied, by the word please, or phrases such as would it be possible, "APC should" is not a request it is clearly a demand!


[quote=CBR1100XX]for a poll on what things are the most annoying on this site ![/quote]

Your partner in crime attempted to launch such a poll in a veiled attempt to make a personal attack, how that was treated should give you indication of how other such attempts will be treated.

The forum section this thread resides in gives you a vehicle for feedback, not a place to lobby divisive demands. It is APCs decision to decide content not yours, it is after all their forum that they have offered up to cater for a variety of viewpoints.

As you have already stated you approve of calls for mischief by other, it would be difficult to consider you had aims for anything that would benefit  other forum participants. That is fact!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]A bit presumptuous ![/quote]

Nothing presumptuous about it, you have tried to personally attack me with a poll aimed to single me out for special attention! Fact?, You have continued to make derisive and personal slurs in replies. So your in no position to complain about any dismissal or mockery of your comments.



[quote=Me In Oz]Yet you deem it appropriate to post sentiments of the same with regard to anything MS ![/quote]

No, I post criticism of MS and of Apple and of any player I see as dropping their game.  I do on rare occasions also compliment these organization. Rare because at a time when notebook colour has become a feature while ongoing issues are ignored, then the industry could be considered somewhat stagnant.


[quote=Me In Oz]Your double standards on this forum are quite obvious[/quote]

Only from a narrow self serving viewpoint could anyone stretch that I had double standards. I any case my standards have every right to be presented within the confines of the T&C.


[quote=Me In Oz]that target you keep drawing on your back ![/quote]

Targets! Why should dissenting opinion be a target, that simply demonstrated you inability to accept the opinion of others.


[quote=Me In Oz]Notice nothing I have said is personally abusive ! [/quote]

And yet earlier in this post you attempted to launch a post that would be used as a personal attack on an individual. Do you not consider that personally abusive?



[quote=Me In Oz]Just some suggestion that would ensure a more civil and adult forum ![/quote]

I f you wish to make suggestion you also need to consider the suggestions of others, and note also that your suggestions have more often than not been presented in the form of demands.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=CBR1100XX]I have never claimed innocence of such charges ![/quote]

you wouldn't want to!


[quote=CBR1100XX]Along with you and the others, I received a polite warning from Dan W.[/quote]

You have no idea of any correspondence I may or may not have had, and more to the point you have no knowledge of the content of any message.



[quote=CBR1100XX]Correct !
Could APC provide a poll on what is the most annoying thing about this site ...... Pretty please with sugar on top ![/quote]

an odd response from someone who is calling for parody to be removed. And a response that demonstrates you contempt for any form of order.


[quote=CBR1100XX]And we're all leaving feedback about Raindog and his attempts to moderate opinions[/quote]

What attempt s to moderate, what you have problem with is detailed analysis of your posts after you have attempted to shout down the opinions of others. That is not moderation, you should come to terms with this asap.


[quote=CBR1100XX]Or yours ![/quote]

I stated quite clearly that it was APCs decision not mine, how you can remain confused on this is bewildering.

 
[quote=CBR1100XX]Which you constantly refuse to accept ![/quote]


Commenting your reply is not refusal to accept your opinion. Acceptance does not constitute adoption of an opinion as my own. Where have I ever requested that a single opinion be removed? It's clear team "US" is the party unable to accept diversity of opinion.



[quote=CBR1100XX]This poll would be quite beneficial as it would give a quantitive value to the 'annoying' aspects of this forum and would direct APC in the right direction to resolve these 'annoyances' !

................ Or at least, hand out some more polite warnings :-)[/quote]


Again you demonstrate in spades your lack of respect for the forum, or for any of it's participants. It is team "US" who are making all the demands all other participants appear able to contribute in a harmonious manner.  A forum is not a platform for team "US" or any other lobby group. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]The Oxford dictionary begs to differ ![/quote]

OK off you go care to clarify your claim?



[quote=Me In Oz]You keep the salvos coming and they'll be returned in kind by all you offend ![/quote]

And the reversal of that is? Weren't you the one that just attempted to launch a divisive poll?
I've never stood for threats from any group of noisy bullies.


[quote=Me In Oz]Here's an example where this poll would be a benefit ![/quote]

How is this an example, do you suppose the arrogance to decide what others should and should not read or how they should respond?


[quote=Me In Oz]You are up til 3:00 am replying to these comments[/quote]

My hours are neither your concern nor your business, and don't presume your self worthy of such effort. 
[quote=Me In Oz]and you blame others for not accepting counter viewpoints ?[/quote]

So viewpoints outside particular hours are not accepting in your view? What hours do you presume the acceptable ones for reply?


[quote=Me In Oz]No I don't ! ....... But I'm happy to let APC decide and not you ![/quote]

Well APC did decide and your personal attacks and behavior clearly outside acceptable standards were soon removed. Weren't they? So maybe you could contemplate what is acceptable.  Where did I attempt to make any decision on your foolish, rude and self serving actions?


[quote=Me In Oz]That's the 'holier-than-thou' attitude that would be exposed by this poll ![/quote]

Your attempts to censor or silence others will not succeed, so you may as well come to term you are flogging a dead horse and have no chance of achieving your aims. Bullying fanboy behavior is a major source of annoyance, you don't need a poll to determine that is the case.
You need to come to terms with such behavior never being acceptable.


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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]You don't have access to a dictionary ?[/quote]

I have access to wealth of reference material, none of which would go any way to explaining how you drew your reference.


[quote=Me In Oz]Oh ! But we are obviously worth the effort for you Raindog ![/quote]

Don flatter yourself just come to terms that no everyone will back down to bullies.



[quote=Me In Oz]If you are losing sleep[/quote]

I am not. Not on your collective behalves at any rate.


[quote=Me In Oz]answering inane comments with[/quote]

well at least as a concession you've come to terms with the tedium of your requests.


[quote=Me In Oz]You've had a few pulled too ![/quote]

Generally as a result of a whole section of thread being removed. You cannot quote any instance of my starting, a vexatious and inappropriate thread though. That dubious honour is yours.


[quote=Me In Oz]That's conjecture and opinion ![/quote]

No that is simple fact, your team of "US" are the ones making the personal attack, calling for banning of others, and deriding the forum and its moderators.


[quote=Me In Oz]so have a good weekend ..[/quote]

I always enjoy my weekends even if i work right through them.


[quote=Me In Oz]and try and get some sleep[/quote]

Bastards seldom sleep!
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]So when will Raindog put this into practice ?[/quote]


I attempted to silience noone, as you well know.  Team "US" are the ones making all the suggestions.]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[With so many whiny girl post replies appearing here, Avon may well have struck upon a goldmine.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 11:18:49 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Well their hand cleaner is quite good peter, so Yes, you can put me down for one of those. COD of course. :)]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[Today's add is Gay Rights T-Shirts,  There ya go PeterT they're listening not a spot of Avon to be seen. :)]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:03:58 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[small]It's a cunning ploy to boost sales of 30" Monitors :)[/small]]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:22:53 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Anonymousewiuu2945u389]Posts are known to vanish here for no reason whatsoever,[/quote]

Rumours that APC servers are actually located offshore from Bermuda have no basis in fact.


[quote=Anonymousewiuu2945u389]and posts that should vanish (error messages) get posted anyway so people think that it hasn't posted and post again.[/quote]

a modicum of patience and a little understanding of the backroom workings could minimise such occurrence's. Regardless this is something that the web platform should be able to achieve without coaxing.


[quote=Anonymousewiuu2945u389]Ever wondered why the news articles are littered with duplicate (sometime triple) posts? [/quote]

nope.


The website machinations are a poor reflection upon APC, with a plethora of mature, pre built and fully customisable forum platforms available, you have to wonder why APC persists with the current flawed mess. A good chance it's not an APC decision at all.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=K]any pointers on what I might be doing incorrectly?
[/quote]

It is unlikely you are doing anything incorrectly.


On observation these problem usually appear around the hour and at times of high load.  If the site is slow it may be worth waiting a short while before attempting to post.

Dan. I don't know the architecture of the site, but from observation it looks like a problem is occurring during replication and/or synchronisation. The odd thing is that notification e-mails appear to go through despite the lost posts never making it to the threads. ]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:55:01 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Arrange the words Positive & False,  for your most likely explaination.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:35:57 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Yes! APC. Lets moderate this site[/quote]

Whose site? The way you make demands you must believe it is your site.



[quote=plutonium210]Your 'Report Abuse' Button is as[/quote]

And you have a better alternative?  


[quote=plutonium210]the usual suspect[/quote]

The usual suspects. not playing by the rules, making demands, showing rudeness to all around them.  Yes Pluto you and YAJ are the nes who cannot behave politely. 


[quote=plutonium210]when someone disagrees with the[/quote]

No the food fights begin, when you show no respect for others, and when you become even more abusive once your bad behavior is called.  

You've been banned before clearly this has done nothing to curb your poor attitude and continual disrespect!


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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:51:21 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Can I name and shame[/quote]


Go ahead. The real question is are, (or will you ever be) capable of you presenting any argument in a civil and non abusive manner?]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:53:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]should encourage everyone who is sick of these foodfights and specifically at the common denominator involved, and vote for a moderated forum.[/quote]


Ok, it's moderation you want. Some quick questions.


Wouldn't moderation be a controlled enforcement of the site T&C?


It's APC's site so it is entirely up to them how it is moderated and their decisions are final, it is not a democracy. That said Dan has shown by word and action that he will do what is possible to allow everyone, (who can do so within the T&C) to be able to put forward an opinion.


I dont see anywhere written where opinions should not be questioned or commented. Without cross-replies a forum is little more than a graffiti board or guest book.


Next question, who do you think will do this moderation? 

I'm pretty sure some of the saner contributors here have been asked if they'd consider a moderation role.  Are those that are asking for moderation (the sane ones at least) putting their hands up  and offering their time?

I'm sure someone will suggest APC staff should be performing the moderation role, who pays for their time to do this? Who would think it a good idea that  journalistic efforts were foregone so that someone could take the role of childminder or web nanny?

you only have to look at Whirlpool to see that moderation, that is the appointment of moderators does not always work. No utopia, sorry, despite the best efforts of the sites creators.  While there are many moderators there who do their job well there are others who are dictatorial, pedantic and at times very biased.

Careful what you wish for, and careful what you demand.  And as I've stated before end of the day it's APC's forum, and they can run the site any way they see fit.


I'll call for moderation too, moderation of some attitudes, an article you may not like is not an invitation to call the author a pillock. An opinion unlike your own is perfectly valid. 
An ability to accept alternate points of view is essential, as is the abilty to understand commenting or questioning of a reply is not a personal afront.  Those so insecure in their points of view that they cannot cope with replies should perhaps question themselves a little more before commenting.

End of the day the moderation required is quite simple. The self moderation of the personal attacks, the rude attitudes, and the attempts to shout out others.

Those who are still hell bent on missions will not be moderated by any means, for perpetual offenders ther is only one solution!

The spam filter idea is a good one, athough I'd doubt it can be achieved without a greater level of user inconvenience. ]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Tony23]I don't want to read a mega dry technical site with no passion, but by the same token a flame-fest with avatars at 20 paces can get dull.[/quote]

Fair comment.  and an excellent post.


[quote=Tony23]There are some users who are particularly technical, and it would be good to acknowledge them. [/quote]

Too true. As this is perhaps my biggest gripe, many will not make the effort for detailed contributions in an environment that has post authors being slagged off and the food fight we're on a mission mentality rampant.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]I'd happily contribute just to see ....(personal attack).... like yourself banned[/quote]

Your mission?  Contributions such as that are not required.



[quote=Your Average Joe]Moderators do a great job on the ABC website.[/quote]

How is that relavent to this forum?


[quote=Your Average Joe]And they have post numbers in far greater numbers[/quote]

You have a fixation with numbers, is the concept of quality over quantity lost on you?


[quote=Your Average Joe]then (???) this local rag site.[/quote]

And that's how you referred to the site in your emails to APC? That's a great way to brgin, show absolute disrespect with a verbal and ranting attack.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Of course they should ................... It's their job![/quote]

Their job? I'd have hoped skilled and well connected people had better things to do than to spend their days deleting your sprays of profanity. Did you forget in all this that it is also their site, for them to run as they see appropriate? And in saying that i am quite sure APC would prefer a site devoid of squabbles, despite your many conspiracy theories and calls of bias.


[quote=Your Average Joe]For Raindog, I totally agree.[/quote]

You demand tolerence from others yet are refuse to offer the same. Sound like a hiding to nothing to you? Probably not, but it should.


[quote=Your Average Joe]And what's that?[/quote]

I'd have thought that was obvious, even to you.  Your prior holidays brought calm, you work it out.



[quote=Your Average Joe]BTW, It's good to see that we're taking up some of your weekend[/quote]

Mere moments, is that another of your missions? 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]Your biggest gripe is that you have to live in a society where most people don't agree with your delusional dogma.[/quote]


No my gripe is that you and a noisy few cannot contribute without being rude and abusive. That you and the same few are intent on running missions and attempts to hijack or over-run the comments of others.


[quote=plutonium210]Getting sick of clicking on the 'report abuse' button yet?[/quote]

Nope!


[quote=plutonium210]Or are you having to write a script and entering it on a command line in the latest version of Ubuntu? [/quote]

A simply task, but not one that is required.


Your sprays in this thread offer no conribution other than a clear demonstration of your mission of rudeness and disruption. As before only one solution has proven effective in controlling that.
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			<description><![CDATA[So lets have a look at that complaint shall we.

[b]Quoting kanebt[/b] (New user):
THIS NEWS IS SO OLD ITS RIDICULOUS!

We begin with shouting not a hanging offense but hardly a good start for an admited new user. Was any consideration given that the piece may have still been news to others? Was any respect shown to the author?


[i]Why would you post this almost 4 months after it happened?[/i] 

A fair enough question and probably all that needed to be asked.

 

[i]APC constantly fails.[/i]

So there is a great start for a new user, don't like something, so spray an exagerated attack at the site's owners. Constructive?



[i]get your act together..[/i]

The spray continues. new user and just moment into a post making demands, spraying insult.  That kind of nullifies the let's all be gentle on the new user calls.



[quote=plutonium210]What a welcoming and polite manner to the new members of the community. [/quote]

poor form should not be condoned regardless of status. There is a way of levelling concern and disagreement, it does not at any time involve denigration of the site or the threads author.

You know this and and you know all too well your intentions are not in the interests of this poster or anyone but yourself.  Mission aborted. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]It's an on-going mission.[/quote]

Then you can look forward to some ongoing holidays if you stated intention is simply to disrupt.


[quote=plutonium210]in a news section of a tech mag is inexcusable.[/quote]

The only thing thing that is without excuse is your behavior. What position are you in to demand news suits you. There are right and wrong ways to make a statement or suggestion, you rudeness demonstrates you are incapable of the former.


[quote=plutonium210]Maybe not constantly[/quote]

Indeed so it's bit of a stretch for you or any other ill mannered pratt to be making over exagerated claims. If the site is as poor as you say, why do you keep returning? Oh that's right you have a mission don't you.


[quote=plutonium210]A poignant and valid reminder to APC to keep its standards above the competition.[/quote]

Or conversly a rude and pointless attack that would do little to encourange anyone to make any further effort.


[quote=plutonium210]Personally, I think the website is way behind its printed brethren.
[/quote]

Personally I think your a rude, disruptive, noisy and pointles twerp who contributes nothing and whose opinion is worthlesw. But of course in accordance with the sites T&C I seldom comment on what you have to say other than to chastise your perpetual rudeness and disrespect. 
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]It is interesting that the author and/or APC have stayed so[/quote]

Is this the bit when you raise one of you famous conspiracy theories, or is a prelude to another of your rude outbursts claiming bias?


[quote=Your Average Joe]Raindog has appointed himself as the defender of this[/quote]

No appointments necessary. My comment was in regard to the rude and demanding nature of the reply.


[quote=Your Average Joe]That is the denigration they deserve.[/quote]

And who is self appointed arbitrator now? No article deserves denigration based soley on its date of publication, and no author deserves denigration fron the likes of you.  I could explain again the distinction between an reply of disagreement and a ride reply, but you still would not get it.


[quote=Your Average Joe]Why should APC be free from criticism.[/quote]

Who suggested they should be? I certainly did not.  I'll pose you a question. Why should this author or anyone for that matter be subject to criticism that is rude and abusive?


[quote=Your Average Joe]We all know who Raindog is! [/quote]


OK fire away.......


[quote=Your Average Joe]It's your alter-ego, isn't it Dan [/quote]

Right on time, her come this weeks YAJ conspiracy theory. LOL  :>

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Your Average Joe]Democracy works. [/quote]

Which democracy is this? Do you know the difference between democracy and benevolent dictatorship?  I doubt it when you cannot cope with simpler concepts like manners and polite behavior.


[quote=Your Average Joe]
@ APC
We all know who Raindog is! It's your alter-ego, isn't it Dan[/quote]

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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Me In Oz]Great to see the foodfight on the matte screen thread removed[/quote]

There is a much easier way you could avoid foodfights.
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Tin]As a result I've just reported one of my own posts since it no longer makes sense ..... .........(since you also can't delete your own posts on the articles).
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The main reason many forums don't allow for a delete is because it allows for abuse now and clean up later type behavior.  For the same reason many forums lock down thread edits after a period of time.

I'd agree a comment box added to the report function would be worthy inclusion.


While you cannot delete your posts here you can in situations like this edit them as appropriate. The scope is there for improvements all we can do is ask. For frequent visitor it's not too hard to make the many required work-arounds.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:28:37 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Am I banned?</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=plutonium210]I know of plenty that should be banned[/quote]

mostly from 1st hand experience.



[quote=plutonium210]Try posting from a different IP address.[/quote]


If IP was the problem how is it that Aubreys post got through here? Would be a pretty bizzare IP filter to be placed after the thread reply notifications. But then this is some pretty bizzare forum code.

I made comment elsewhere about the missing posts mostly because I saw e-mail notification of the posts which somehow never made the news threads. Whatever the problem we can be pretty sure it's all at the APC end.

There are lots of posts from that hit the notifications but never make the thread, (mostly from abusive 1 post wonders who slink back to where they came from and are never seen again) so you have to ask why they make the emails? But who knows on this forum.
 
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:49:34 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Make it Stop!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Please! 147 reminders that someone has replied to a post I made. And counting.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:02:39 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Influx of spam</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Halcon]What's the matter with you Aubrey?[/quote]


There is nothing wrong with Aubrey (well nothing evident from his postings anyway), although his post does show he is guilty of having a sense of humour. 

He was not having a go at you, rather he was just noting to Tin that he should be glad to receive many reminders of quality posts by "Aubrey" or "Raindog".  :>

As for unticking the reminder, isn't that a bit like uninstalling your mail client to avoid spam or cutting up your PC power cord to prevent Virus attack, while such measures are effective they do have the odd side effect.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 09:48:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Slow page loads</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Phred]I'm not sure if anyone else is having the same problems. [/quote]


You can be now. <em>"Do not adjust your set - normal service will be resumed as soon as possible"</em> - well I guess it will.]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:29:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Make it Stop!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Tin]Are other people getting them? [/quote]

No! After the flood it's drought again. :}

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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:58:12 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC is NOT New Idea!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]I do not want to see advertisements for tampons, babies nappies, other feminine hygiene products nor beauty and skin care products[/quote]

I'd quit while your ahead Pete, if you look at the volume advertisers we could just as easy have adds for gentlemans enhancement, hair replacement and online casinos.  As for hitting the target market the clearosil contract could not be better served.
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:18:29 GMT</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=petert]I think that is something of a win[/quote]

A win would be some actual change.



[quote=petert]and I congratulate Tony on his attitude to this issue[/quote]

agreed, it is positive to, one get a response, and two get  response that is not just a hose down job.


[quote=petert]I agree that there is a fair bit of "grey" as to what is and is not appropriate advertising, but there is plenty of black and white too![/quote]

Correct althought the major media doesn't share that view if advertising content on after 11pm TV is any indication.


 
[quote=petert]I've no desire to one day open APC and be greeted by ......[/quote]

I've no desire to continually have to take measures to can those innane side-bar ads either. For the best part (excluding those smarmy informercial pages masquerading as articles) the ads in APC mag are relevant, approriate and at times even a feature.  It's a pity that does not always carry over to the website and instead much like the popular media sites we get adds that annoy adds that intrude.

I can go through the day scarecly noticing the banner adds that dont interest me, while don't disagree the adds for body goop are not appropriate they are far less annoying than those innane scroll bar popups.



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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:47:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC is NOT New Idea!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]Popups of any kind are the pits and if anything does pop up (on machines where I can't use a blocker), I immediately close them or the whole page.
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Agree,  I take similar actions. Have these advertisers ever stopped to think what the net result of annoying their targets will be? Large quantities of intrusive advertising wont reverse my negative impressions of Telstra or those in regards an innefectual state government. Their respective big spends on annoying ways to advertise have actually reinforced the negative impressions already held.
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:19:33 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC is NOT New Idea!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=Aubrey]Popups of any kind are the pits and if anything does pop up (on machines where I can't use a blocker), I immediately close them or the whole page.
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Agree,  I take similar actions. Have these advertisers ever stopped to think what the net result of annoying their targets will be? Large quantities of intrusive advertising wont reverse my negative impressions of Telstra or those in regards an innefectual state government. Their respective big spends on annoying ways to advertise have actually reinforced the negative impressions already held.
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>APC is NOT New Idea!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[[quote=MiCCAS]as I am aware APC themselves don't actually decide who advertises [/quote]

That may well be correct, but if it becomes apparent that the type of advertsing present is upsetting enough site visitors (which looks to be the case) then it would be foolish not to address the issue. 


[quote=MiCCAS]or, they may have ways to block particular ads, but don't sit and approve each individual one[/quote]

That is simply speculation. You would be better to direct your suggestion directly to APC foa a definitive answer.

 
[quote=MiCCAS]instead it is Ninemsn or whoever else APC or their publishers have contracted to take care of advertising[/quote]

May well be so but duck-shoving the responsibility, will not make a problem go away despite best efforts of those involved in the areas of workplace safety.
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			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:33:23 GMT</pubDate>
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