Yellow Pages to be merged with Google Maps

Danny Gorog
04 November 2008, 11:00 PM


Telstra will close down its little-used search engine and merge its data with Google Maps. And not a moment too soon. Several years late, in fact.


Have you ever visited a Sensis.com.au website? Chances are you have, and like me, you've left feeling utterly disappointed and wondering why Telstra even bothered.

Sensis, owned by Telstra, manage some of Australia's leading offline directories like Yellow Pages and White Pages. It also recently acquired Trading Post in a vain effort to compete with eBay.

While Sensis continues to chop down forests and distribute thousands of copies of the White and Yellow Pages to every human (living or dead) in Australia (we received three copies of the Yellow Pages this year, even though I tried this to opt-out), its monopoly position in print hasn't transitioned to the web as well as it would have liked. 

The following announcement from Sensis and Google therefore came as no surprise to me. The press release is over a page long, but I'll sum it up for you in two points: Coming early next year, Google will power the search on sensis.com.au, and Yellow Pages business listings will be available in Google Maps.

Sensis will try to convince you that they didn't need Google, but the reality is they did. Yellow Pages, White Pages and Trading Post - you name them, and the chances are, the websites are difficult to use and nowhere near as effective at helping you find information as Google is. Furthermore, despite being owned by the company's biggest telco, Sensis hasn't done a great job of making their data available on mobiles -- try accessing Sensis-run sites on your iPhone and you'll know what I'm talking about.

Now, with Yellow Pages results provided by Google, there's no good reason to visit the Sensis portal at all (except maybe for a White Pages lookup). The people who know how to do search properly -- Google -- will be able to help you find businesses in Telstra's extensive directory with laser-sharp focus.

If Sensis wanted to (and they presumably did) keep charging customers top dollar for advertising, a deal with Google was a no-brainer. Visibility on Google Maps gives Yellow Pages customers access to many more eye-balls (2.6 million Australians each month according to Roy Morgan), and, well, lets face it, the future of print directories isn't rosy.

What's not clear from the announcement however is what this means for Google Maps and TrueLocal integration. We've asked Google for clarification.

The announcement also raises several other questions for Sensis shareholders like: what will become of Sensis's own mapping site, Whereis? And when will Sensis realise that the Trading Post, as it stands, is no match for eBay? (Not that we're discouraging Telstra from running Trading Post -- at least it provides some competition for eBay, which has shown an even greater willingness than Telstra to exploit its quasi-monopoly position for profit.)

Sensis' online strategy is eerily similar to Microsoft's own failed online strategy. Now, finally, Sensis has realised that it can't compete with Google, and has realised that's it's better to have a smaller slice of a larger pie rather than an empty plate. Now, what about handing Google your White Pages database for some slick integration? I'd love to be able to look up a listing on White Pages and be presented with directions on how to get there from my current location on Google Maps.


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McBanjo (New user):

This is fantastic news for Google Maps users i.e. anyone who has an iPhone! Now all those nearby Starbucks cafes will actually display properly, with all the right locations and contact details, just like in the US.

05 November 2008, 12:14 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Danny I find your criticism of the paper copies of white and yellow pages to be ill considered.

If distribution of these was to cease, then how on earth would the nation's computer monitors be adjusted to correct height

05 November 2008, 12:33 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo (User):

APC's acceptable use policy doubtless prohibits me from fully expressing my contempt for Sensis. Suffice it to say Sensis's management and developers should be subjected to lingering, agonising and humiliating deaths as a warning to anyone else thinking they can inflict such grotesqueries upon an innocent public ever again. This should preferably be done before they find new and inventive ways to bugger up their Mark 2 sites despite having acquired a decent search engine.

05 November 2008, 5:30 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (New user):

Back in the first half of 2006 my company "danced" with Sensis (Yellow and Trading Post) and showcased technologies that could make Sensis a viable online business with enough feature differentiation to drive consumer adoption.

We provided a gap analysis emphasising market dynamics around sites like Craigslist, eBay, and Google and how they could recapture user mindshare.

Whilst individuals at Sensis liked our proposition, they enlightened us with the way the business operated and how it did not lend itself to strategic partnerships with small .com companies.

The result is what we read today.
Was there a chance to make something of Sensis? I'm sure we were one of many.
Does this announcement come as a surprise? Probably only to some people at Sensis as they could not see the forest for the trees.

05 November 2008, 11:46 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Steve@Sensis (New user):

Danny - in the middle there, you've done what many have failed to do and that's explain why this agreement is good for Yellow advertisers. It makes their listing available to more people in more places. As for a few of your other points:
- Yellow and White Pages print directories are made up of mostly recycled paper and content
- These directories online are each used by more than 3 million people per month
- yellowpages.com.au is at record traffic levels and has been for months
- try yellowpages.com.au on your iPhone, it will recognise you're on mobile and take you to the mobile app
- Yellow content replaces trulocal content on Google Maps, quality recognised by Google
- Whereis remains as is, with whereis.com, its Whereis® Mobile property, as well as its position as the major supplier of digital maps to the sav nav industry.
- there's plenty of opportunity for Trading Post as another player in the market
Hope that helps

05 November 2008, 5:52 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (New user):

No offense Steve, but if TradingPost spent on 3rd party development as much as the recent series of billboards touting the NEW Trading Post they'd actually have something to brag about.

I know this may come over as sour grapes, take it as you will. But my main gripe is that I hate seeing another US lead consortium, company, or .com business come into our country and take major market share when there is plenty of home grown talent and ideas. Anyone not part of the solution is part of the problem.

05 November 2008, 7:06 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

I wonder if Google will have staff leaving for reasons relating to mental illness in 3-6 months... From what I've heard, Sensis isn't one to provide data in ways people request.

05 November 2008, 8:35 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Tin:
Sensis isn't one to provide data in ways people request.

I always got the feeling Sensis was going to provide links according to maximised advertising revenue. And the times I've used Sensis pretty much confirm that.

I agree with Agami that all too often we import technology and that is most because players like Sensis will hinder rather than encourage the smaller players. It's almost essential to take your ideas offshore in order to get a start.


05 November 2008, 9:19 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

paul parsons (New user):

hellhasnophotoes@y7mail.com
stretch
what happened to the yellow pages for computer search of names and business


07 November 2008, 3:59 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Yellow Map Spam (New user):

Yellow pages access to Google maps is nothing more then a venture to raise more money, With Google saying the maps are free and useable by the public, its strange how high paying yellow pages customers are getting preference for what use to be a fair and public search result that is controlled by the people who pay the most to Yellow pages.
They have listed company multiple time and removed other listing from showing, even giving the whole map to their customers over any other listing?, how they have done this is between yellow and Google , but the people who really suffer is the end user. When you read the terms and condition of use for the Google maps it states what you can do and what you cant do, But yellow seems to be allowed to brake the rules, and if the end users is limited to only one search option and only one listing , Well that’s ok because yellow pays Google for the privilege, so its no wonder yellow has such control to promote their high paying customers. Good free maps listings that gave the user the most accurate information has now become a thing of the past as more and more big yellow customers take over the local listings. I would prefer to pay Google for the map listing rather then yellow , They must of paid a lot of money to get Google onboard , as the yellow programs are dieing compared to Google “ Why would you want to join up with a less successful company ?. I can only think that Google has changed its mind about not charging for the maps , now Google has its new friend collecting the money, so they don’t contradict their original game plan.


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