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Set-top boxes to get VLC for all-format TV playback?

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Angus Kidman02 June 2008, 12:00 AM

Funding to port the popular VLC open source media player to set-top boxes could mean a lounge-room media player that actually supports all the media you want to play.


Media sharing enthusiasts got a huge truckload of hope backed up to the delivery dock this week when Neuros announced that it had, in effect, received sponsorship from Texas Instruments to port VLC (VideoLAN if we're being formal) onto its Neuros platform, an open source set-top box. Neuros is very much a niche project, but the fact that TI, a major player in the STB market, is involved makes it likely that a mass-market box capable of playing back virtually all downloaded and streamed content could eventually hit the stands.

A set-top box that could play pretty much any existing media format would be a boon to people who (ahem) acquire their TV shows and movies from a variety of different sources, especially since additional codecs could be added over time as required. That's great news for enthusiasts, but to be fair, those are the same enthusiasts who could already install VLC on a Mac Mini or a PS3 or a custom PC, given time, enthusiasm and a drive full of freshly-torrented televisual goodness.

What's unfortunately rather less likely is that any VLC-equipped set-top box will make its way into the Harvey Normans and Dick Smiths of this world and hence get really widesprea adoption (the strange PC shop round the corner in Granville is another story alogether). Indeed, given the slow speed with which Australians are adopting even basic digital TV boxes, the role of pay TV channels Foxtel and Austar will be crucial.

Foxtel will begin installing new IQ2 boxes for customers next week, but while these are presumed to include some content download capabilities, Foxtel isn't talking about what features these will support. What it almost certainly won't support is playing back a wide variety of codecs or viewing material online.

Austar has suggested in comments this week that it doesn't mind so much if people access other content via its STB (getting some sort of subscription fee is the main game here, after all). According to the Australian, CEO John Porter remarked after the company's annual meeting: "Philosophically, we're not opposed to subscribers going to any website and downloading content — as long as they do it through our box." But until it signs a new contract with TI, I wouldn't hold your breath for VLC being the solution there either.


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Chris (User):

Good to see. I love VLC.

On a slight side note for my reader review, which was meant in humor - http://apcmag.com/forum.htm?g=posts&t=322
I suggested VLC should run on more devices AND I complain about boot time of modern PCs. And today 2 stories are posted addressing each of these problems (this one and http://apcmag.com/asus_laptops_get_instanton_linux.htm ).

02 June 2008, 12:54 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Pretty cool, isn't it. I'm glad that the abject failure of Vista is giving the PC industry the impetus it needs to think outside the square and not just do everything the Microsoft way.

02 June 2008, 4:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Obi-Wan Kenobi (User):

I love you, VLC. :)

02 June 2008, 3:47 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jeff (User):

VLC a media player that actually supports all the media you want to play? is that a joke? I have large numbers of video files that VLC won't play including real media (officially not supported) and a large number of Matroska files that it won't play (which it is meant to).

I would rather see such a project for Mplayer which, to date, has played every video/audio file I've thrown at it perfectly. Mplayer also seems to be much more efficient at video playback than VLC - I can play 1080p videos using MPlayer, but with VLC they are unwatchable. The only feature that MPlayer doesn't have that I would like is support for DVD menus.

Go MPlayer!!

02 June 2008, 3:50 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Does anyone really use Realmedia for anything except streaming from legacy websites any more?

And re: mplayer... I've always found VLC has far superior support for decoding Windows Media Video. Mplayer has serious trouble continuing to decode if you fast forward or reposition in the video, whereas VLC gets over it quickly.

02 June 2008, 4:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jeff (User):

I have quite a few old realmedia files that I haven't found other versions in different formats and I have a lot of chinese friends i get videos off of and they seem to use realmedia for their videos a lot...

As for viewing wmv files in MPlayer I have had no problems with it at all - it has played them all without any problems at all. VLC and MPlayer do treat the way that they advance through a file in different ways - VLC doesn't guarantee that when you skip 10s that it will actually be a 10s skip whereas MPlayer requires an index to do any skipping and it will then do exact skippings. Even if a file doesn't have an index it is easy enough to get MPlayer to generate one for the file (can't remember off the top of my head if thats need for wmvs though). I've also found that MPlayer will also do the skips much faster than VLC will on some files.

What it all really comes down to is your personal experience an preference - for me I have found that MPlayer works better, but I generally find that the people who use VLC don't even know what MPlayer is. For them I would recommend that they try it out and see which they prefer and if they are shy of the cli then they can always get one of the many guis (My favourite is SMPlayer).

02 June 2008, 4:52 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

RealMedia files are one of those exclusive formats. The only things that play it as far as I know are RealVideoPlayer or that RealAlternative for PC.

All I need VLC to do is play those damn .dvr-ms files better. I also wonder how this would fair considering that VLC bypasses region-coding on DVDs. But everyone knows that region-coding is the devil anyway.

02 June 2008, 10:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jeff (User):

MPlayer will play realmedia files without any trouble if you install the binary codecs that they have made for realmedia. As for the dvr-ms files - I've never come across them before, but give MPlayer a go and see what happens (thats what I always do when I find new formats and its always worked for me...).

03 June 2008, 12:10 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Family Guy's writers used RealPlayer for a joke in their Start Wars episode... Apart from that, no, I don't think anyone uses it anymore :-P

03 June 2008, 10:45 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

piranus (New user):

3 major media player for is right now is

VLC
GomPlayer
KMPlayer

if you try VLC you will love the other as well

the good thing behind them is klite codecs + media player classic


09 June 2008, 4:33 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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