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Dan Warne14 June 2007, 3:08 AM

Sony has made the audacious claim that 90.8% of the 6,000 high definition movies sold in Australia in the first quarter of 2007 have been in the BluRay format.


Sony has made the audacious claim that 90.8% of the 6,000 high definition movies sold in Australia in the first quarter of 2007 have been in the BluRay format.

"Sony Australia’s latest HD Benchmark Report puts Blu-ray well ahead of the HD DVD format. Of the nearly 6,000 HD movies sold in Australia in Q1 2007, 90.8% were in the Blu-ray format," the company said in a statement.

"The report also reveals that for the third quarter running, total HD category sales are higher than non-HD models, representing over two-thirds of total spending, with a year-on-year increase in HD sales of over 80%.

The research was conducted by retail analyst GfK Australia.

Sony released the data to coincide with the Australian launch of its $1399 home theatre BluRay player, BDP-S1E, which does look mighty tasty, if you can totally ignore the pricetag.


Yes, it does all the spiffy technical stuff like full 1080p playback, upscaling of regular definition DVDs and eight channels of uncompressed Dolby Digital sound output via HDMI, but what looks particularly nice is the industrial design of the product itself.

What better way to put it than the gloriously written PR fluff in Sony's press release: "The BDP-S1E pays extraordinary attention to detail including a glass front, which shimmers in deep blue and disappears once the light in the home theatre is dimmed, drawing the audience's attention to the picture it creates."

Sony also says the player will integrate with the remote controls of its Bravia TVs and that movie buffs will love true 24 frame per second playback.

"Films are actually recorded at 24 frames per second but due to televisions operating at a higher frame rate, conversion has traditionally been necessary. When the BDP-S1E is connected to a TV with 24p capabilities, the film is shown precisely as it was recorded."


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Wes:

It sounds like it got a lot of features but I would no doubt be turned off by the price tag.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

justthething84:

I'd personally wouldn't buy a standalone player yet of either type. For people buying them I dont know why you would unless you had a lot of money. I havent seen any hddvd movies in shops at all - only bluray.

i have a ps3 and bluray is so clear and sharp i couldnt believe it. it's a good idea putting bluray in ps3 because that saves me having to buy a standalone player anyway and ive saved heaps.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

This is because I can go down to David Jones and buy Blu-Ray stuff. This is not yet possible for HD-DVD, I haven't seen HD-DVD anywhere other than online in Australia.

Btw, the Blu-Ray I have seen has been ex-pen-sive! Definitely not worth it IMO. And this survey means nothing anyway, these two formats have both been saying that they are the undeniable winner of the format war for ages.

Also, we only just got the HD-DVD player for the 360, about the same time the PS3 came out. So it can be expected that more Blu-Ray media was sold, cause consumers want to know what that blu-ray logo on their PS3 means.

And not to be biased or anything, but don't buy Blu-Ray. If Sony controls the market, everyone loses.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

UnAnonymous:

"And not to be biased or anything, but don't buy Blu-Ray. If Sony controls the market, everyone loses."

Another microsoft brain washed fan boy eh?
Since when has Sony made everybody lose?

The only reason you bought an Xbox in the first place is that it was suppose to be better then the PS2.
Now with the X360 and PS3 the PS3 wins hand down being 2x better than X360 in every way(a huge difference compare with the unknown difference with Xbox and PS2) and the PS3 comes with all of its features which is much cheaper than the X360 (once purchased all of its features) as they "only just got the HD-DVD player for the 360".


With Blu-Ray being much more superior to HD-DVD holding double the amount of disc space providing uncompressed movie quality and will be needed for the new digital cinema features that may happen in the future.

Don't buy HD-DVD. If Microsoft wins everyone gets third rate products at entrepreneur prices and loses.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous times 20:

He never said anything particularily pro-microsoft; he just said that one company controlling the market (in this case sony) is a bad thing, which it is. The fact that you have the nerve to call someone else a fanboy annoys me too. most of your points are just plain false; the PS3 is not twice as good as the Xbox in every way, but it IS about that in some ways. We know EXACTLY how much better the Xbox was than the PS2, and im not insulting the PS2 there anyway; it was an earlier product; it's not a particularily fair comparison.

oh, and Blu ray only holds 20% more than the HD DVD; not twice as much; blu ray's 60 GB, HD DVD's 50GB.


you wouldn't happen to be called David by any chance would you? (boy in my school who's an extreme sony fanboy and talks a lot like you; if it is you, then im fine with saying it; yer a fanboy!)

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

UnAnonymous:

Nah I'm not David haha (I assume its not the Dave I know as we go to College?), and I'm just making a point about Microsoft control and its movement into other industry areas, I must have been not real with it when writing the previous note and I tend to be wrong when I sound that critical.

Actually Dual Layer Single sided HD DVD are 30GB and Dual Layer Single sided BluRay is 50GB so it works out to be 66.6% larger in capacity which is a fair amount.

The PS3 is twice as good 'stat wise' (undecided in actual game wise) to X360 and does offer affair bit of innovation (eye toy, motion controls and the likes). The PS2 and XBox to me they seem about the same and I'm pretty sure some of the PS2 games have better graphics then the best Xbox games? (name the best graphical Xbox game and I'll see, haha if I get to check back, have a look at Okami, Kingdom Hearts 2, Soul Caliber III, God Of War II)

Ok enjoy

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous121:

exactly right, blu-ray has better movies also. Acoording to ezydvd.com.au this year 50 new blu-ray titles will be released compared to hd-dvd's 13. I have a ps3 and blu-ray movies and its better than having an inpractical add-on for the x-box.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

justthething84:

add ons are ugly. you are supposed to bring out an all in one device - not something you need to attach things too.

thats why ps3 is cool. no need to attach some feral out of place thingy.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

E_NMC:

What people need to understand is not that 1 format is technically superior or anther format is cheaper, the pure facts of the matter is "bums on seats".

What I mean is Sony has got a BLU-RAY player in every PS3. So BLU-RAY players will sell 3 to every 1 HD-DVD player. Until Toshiba can find a way of getting more HD-DVD players into the market they are just treading water.

Sony has a better understanding of how to implement a video format because of the Betamax fiasco and do you think they want to lose this time? Sony have put a lot of eggs in the BLU-RAY basket and will win or chapter 11.


29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bill:

I like many others, won't buy either until a format is decided upon and prices become reasonable for both players and media.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Cordingley:

I bought into HD DVD a year ago, and I've never looked back. 100 movies later and I'm still over the moon - there is no going back to DVD, especially on a 1080p projector.

As for Blu-ray - meh, not interested. Does Australia even count in the grand scheme?

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bill:

approximately 11.76 times the amount of people live in Asia Pacific compared to the USA.

So i think indeed it would count.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

HDDVDnet:

I have owned both an HD DVD player and Blu-ray player for about a year now. I am definetly happier with the price, quality and service of my HD DVD player.

I have purchased 2 additional HD DVD players for family presents since then, I like them this much!!!

On the other hand most Blu-ray players including my one thousand dollar Panasonic Blu-ray player does not even have an internet connection which will be required by Nov for there upcoming features.

So in order to play new features after this I would need to purchase a new Blu-ray player... Never again!





29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BBsin:

they have much more exclusive studio support and much more blockbuster movies on release. Toshiba are in a bigger hole every time they slash the price of the HDDVD player, no HDDVD player manufacturer wants to go that low and compete prices with toshiba since toshiba is only doing it out of disperation. BluRay is completely blowing HDDVD out of the water in every other country besides the U.S. however Bluray is steadily beating HDDVD here. Toshiba and slash the prices and make the quality better all they want but if you only have Universal making exclusive movies for you vs everyone else on sony's side.... it's not going to make a difference in the end. BluRay dominance in late 2009. The US is the only country where HDDVD is hanging on.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Interested Watcher:

When both high def formats continue to sell so badly and in such very very tiny numbers then the Blu-ray side making huge claims on the basis of those silly percentage 'leads' is just absurd.

Ditto HD DVD making big claims.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dave Gill:

I couldn't find it on either Sony Australia, or GfK's website.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

bla:

sony defise logic and uses fancy words and numbers to confuse the many how under stand not what they know nothing about except what they here from text that mean's nothing but say's alot of giberish that has no point but a conclusion of nothing short of something to read to wast nothing but my time and not there's just to be dumb founded by nothing short of useless

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

James:

Was that intentionally ironic?

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

robin la:

ok, so everyone thinks sony players are expensive,BFD,what else is new? new technology is always costly, so all you broke dicks out there, just sit back and wait for prices to come down as they surely will, but don't knock sony for prices, all companies charge more out of the gate for new tech. it's called capitalism,DUH.
the main problem as i see it is, most people are not looking at blu-ray in the proper perspective. it's not about cost or market control, it's all about CAPACITY. blu-ray is growing disc capacity at a mind boggling pace. what this means is, as developers create enhanced games, the disc/player can handle it (or visa versa.) the potential gaming and viewing quotient is magnified exponentially. can you say total immersion? the interactive ability will grow so dramatically you will be able to place yourself right down there on the field, playing directly against your fav player in whatever sport and test your skills against his/her LIVE!! or you see a cool jacket while watching a movie,zero in on it with your controler and click, it's yours at the best possible price. or watching the same movie you see this really hot chick...click..click..bingo bango, you got every bit of info ever uploaded on her. now thats entertainment!!

all you folks knocking blu-ray NOW will be the first to say in a couple of years, "i always thought blu-ray was great." yeah right...


29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Matt D:

Well im surprised at how HD-DVD has a whole 9% of the Aussie market - i mean it was during January that around half the retailers in Australia announced they won't stock HD-DVD players or movies instore (with the 360 add-on as an exception)

Here in Australia for most blu-ray movies and ALL HD-DVD movies (atleast in Brisbane) the internet is the only way to go ...

So ...
Australia - Blu-ray has won
Japan - Blu-ray has won

everywhere else Blu-ray is winning ... how could SONY possible lose ? When they already have region that they have won ...



29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

suicidal_weasel:

Sony will smash their blu-ray battle in my opinion. With the price they charge for a vaio laptop they have the power to buy toshiba. Game over

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Interested Watcher:

I see even Sony have had the sense to stop claiming they have won anything and that they have recognised that this 'war' has barely started.

.....which must leave their devoted feeling a tad pi**ed off.

When the SoC designs appear prices will plummet, but sadly for Blu-ray it's going to be HD DVD that gets there first.

Seamless change to DVD players that also do high def DVD is the key to this and at prices not so far removed from what people are asked to pay right now.

The Toshiba HD DVD players will be down to $200, maybe even a little less, by X-Mas and the 3 brands of Chinese HD DVD player that are coming to the USA at the end of the year will be somewhere between $100 - $150.

Game over for Blu-ray as far as teh a/v mass-market is concerned.
Hello yet another proprietary Sony format.
It'll be a decent little market and it's not going away anywhere but BD will be to PS3 what UMD is to PSP.

Cos let's face it BD is PS3 right now.
That's been a short-term positive for the BD side in this but it is one huge long-term disadvantage.

The inclusion of HD DVD drives into all Toshiba laptops (they sell over 9 million a year) is also an interesting development.

Both formats are here to stay one way or another.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Lish:

There seems to be too much emphasis on the need for one best successor to DVD. This is not VHS versus Betamax. Many who have posted here will be far too young to remember that "war". Heres the deal.

Betamax and VHS were vastly different is size and format and practically (although not impossibly) incompatible. Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are in fact fully compatible (suprised too hear this aren't you). CD and DVD differ far more than HD-DVD and Bluray, and guess what; we can buy players that play both for only AU$29. Both HD-DVD and Bluray use 12mm discs. A slightly different arpeture in their grooves will not prevent dual format players (actually, 4 formats - CD, DVD, HD-DVD and Bluray) from being the way of the future.

I'm no Sony fan, but with Sony pictures, they will always have content, and if HD-DVD sustains their links with the biggest of them all (Univeral) then they too have a huge future. They will co-exist, as has every other competing format since betamax (DVD+R and DVD-R; XD, SD, Compact Flash, and various other memory cards; even JAVA and HTML; not to mention I-pod and a vast array of competing MP3 varients).

It is in our interest that they survive. Surely competition, even a duopoly is better than a monopoly.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sonyuronspeed:

How many times am i going to read so called experts in blogs touting how fantastic blur ray is, like it must come with an ounce ice per disk cause you guys sound like your on crack.
The facts: Blu ray stores it's data just 0.1mm under the surface of the disk so too bad if your kids get a hold of them there gone. HD DVD 0.7mm more protection means data is safer.
When it comes to raw storage HD DVD has blu ray beat. They can already make double sided HD DVD's which are up to 10 layers that's 180 gig, all they lack is the commercially available reader to be able to play these disks but that isn't too far away. Whereas blu ray isn't even close, cant even make double sided disks.
No region codes for HD DVD so if i want i can buy a movie from anywhere in the world and watch it on my player. What about Blu ray? oops sorry 3 region codes
I am neither for nor against blu ray or HD DVD but like most sane people am waiting for a mainstream cheap player that does play both properly, upscales dvd and isn't a waste of money if one side looses.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

justthething84:

I can't believe how clear Bluray is. I have it on my 1080p TV and it's so crisp and sharp. I've seen it in shops on huge screens and it just looks really great.

Bluray will eventually become affordable just like everything else. Sony was one of the first companies to get involved in bringing out CD and they became cheaper over time.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

UnAnonymous:

O how journalist twist fact, so when were you going to mention the 10 Layers BluRay Disc?

see below

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5656

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousegtne:

what do these three formats have in common? Betamax,laserdisc and hd-dvd? They are all failed formats.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Russell Stapleton:

It was never our war. Pick what you like, side with who you like. I won't buy a product on someone elses taste. I just hope my choice is still there in the long run, and yours too! I'm going blue. Best of luck.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AllRoundGoodGuy:

QUOTE "what do these three formats have in common? Betamax,laserdisc and hd-dvd? They are all failed formats."

Laserdisc??? What are you talking about. Laserdics were around a lot longer than DVD have been around for now. Laserdiscs were actually available before VHS.. How on earth is it a failed format? It lasted so long and was so popular throughout Asia, Europe and USA. As for Beta, it is still used today (widely!) in professional production houses and Sony still have the upperhand. They have Beta-SP and DigiBeta.. all the TV you see on commercial television stations has hit some sort of Beta format before broadcast. As for HD-DVD and Blu-ray - you can't say either format has won or lost. They both have their pros and cons. I don't think either will go away - until the next format comes along.. maybe something 4k... hmmmm...

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous123:

laserdisc did fail becuase it was impractical,and I think it is safe to say that blu-ray have the format war won.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Not you:

Please note the difference between Betamax and Betacam. Betamax was the failed domestic low quality no longer used version of Betacam which is still used today.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Adam Penhall:

I have read allot about the present war with these formats. I think the consumer is the loser in the end as both have products which have been release.In Australia it has only been recently that 1900 x 1200 (approx) has been released in Australia. The cost of these products is still expensive for the average family. To enjoy any HD TV at full format you would want one of these which will cost money as people many have already purchased 1300 x 768 (app) format TV's. New TV anyone? Lower end. Sony represents a controlled market as it has always tried to exploit. Remember the mod chip arguement!!!

Both Players are babies as in there product life. I actually think it was a good cost effective idea for Microsoft not to put a HD-DVD player in the Xbox 360. For a start Bugs with new products. For the majority of consumers are still buying DVD's and by the time they actually get around to using the BluRay or HD DVD format disc's they will be two years old and a little out of date.

It 3 yrs time when the next console comes out Microsoft will have the choice of what player to put in there product. Being an add on whos to say there might not be a USB Blueray come out for the Xbox or be Xbox compatible. You may have more choice. Freedom and Choice in a market is a good thing.

Sony are stuck with Blueray. They make a great product but also make some that could be considered crappy for there price tag.

People winge about Microsoft being one sided in there comercial interests but arent Sony too.

29 February 2008, 8:47 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

B:

Yeah, and if you look at all the retail outlets. Hmm who's getting paid by sony to only stock bluray. Most places dont have HD-DVD I have so far only found them on www.ezydvd.com.au and quickflix. So to me this figures are invalid because the Bluray disc association is playing dirty. For the record I dont back either format, just watch from the sidelines.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

citizen of the universe:

People with blu ray machines have no choice but to buy their discs in Australia, because the machines won't play discs from other regions. HD DVD owners can buy from anywhere because they are not region restricted. Why would you buy a player that can only play the limited number of discs that are going to be available here, compared to the much wider range available overseas? Haven't Sony heard of Amazon? Just look at the huge range of movies available on DVD in region 1 compared to here. There's no reason to believe it will be any different with hi def. I want to be able to buy the movie I want, regardless of which country it is released in.




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