Speedy Firefox 4 finally out of the cage, but can it catch its prey?

Peter Dockrill
25 March 2011, 5:15 PM


After interminable delays, Firefox 4 has finally been released with a slew of new features, but can the original alternative browser powerhouse catch up with IE9 and Chrome 10?


For the historians and browser-curious among you, there's an interesting pictorial saga online at The Atlantic which shows the visual development of Internet Explorer from versions 1 through 9. (Admittedly, there's a few of these compilations lurking around the net, but it was The Atlantic's that popped up in our RSS the other day.)

Whilst viewing it this week, we couldn't help but notice the staggering five years (plus) of development time Microsoft took in between deploying IEs 6 and 7. Yep, a whole half-decade and more of tweaking took place in the leadup to IE7's refresh. These days, such an elongated delay for a major browser would seemingly be unthinkable, but that's not to say postponements don't occur.


The new-look Firefox 4 on Windows.

After all, Firefox 3 was released in June 2008, which is now nearly three years ago (although substantial incremental updates with versions 3.5 and 3.6 have taken place in that time). And since 3.0 hit, we've seen launches for IE 8 and 9, Safari 4 and 5, and the hugely significant introduction of Google's Chrome, which is already in double digits version-wise.


Firefox 4's "Awesome Bar" helps search with remembered context from your history, bookmarks and tabs.

(To be fair, all these browsers undergo differing development cycles, and their nominal version numbers represent different and individual scales of achievement.) But there's no denying the widespread view that Firefox's speed, innovations and uniqueness have been overtaken in recent times by Chrome and Internet Explorer's impressive (and more frequent) updates and evolutions.


App Tabs give you a fixed location for popular sites, like webmail or social networking.

And given that it was that initial five-year Microsoft delay between IEs 6 and 7 that helped enable Firefox's very ascension in the first place, it would be an ironic result indeed if Mozilla's tardiness prior to releasing Firefox 4 this week proved to be the straw that broke this browser's back. Of course, Firefox still has a healthy lead on Chrome in terms of market share (as IE does on Firefox), but one wonders how many of the millions of Chrome users out there were former Firefox devotees who simply got sick of waiting for their pages to load and were keen to try something new.

Bolstering Mozilla's hopes are the impressive download figures Firefox 4 has already garnered this week. Within 24 hours of having been launched, Firefox 4 had already been downloaded 7.1 million times; compare this against IE9's 2.35 million downloads within its first 24 hours and you can see, delay or no delay, there's still huge user demand for the new Mozilla browser (the total downloads figure now stands at over 22 million and counting).


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Firefox 4 is available here. The new release features greatly improved start-up and page-load times, a revamped interface with new tab functionalities, new syncing abilities for passwords and bookmarks, plus enhanced security and privacy functions, and a whole heap more. And there's still support for more than 200,000 add-ons for those who like to customise or beef up their browsing experience. You can read more about the new features here.


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petert (Cornerstone member):

FF4 is very good. I like the minimalist look. Apparently, there were 2.35 million downloads of IE9 in 24 hours and 7 million downloads (I read elsewhere that it was 9 million, but I won't quibble) of FF4 in 48 hours. What is missing from the IE9 data is the number of XP users who downloaded IE9 only to then find-out that it would not install. Overall, a very good result to FF.

25 March 2011, 8:07 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (User):

~7 million in 24 hours. 15.85m (I think) in 48 hours. The 9 million issue (or 10m so I read) seems to be caused by Mozilla only counting direct downloads in the 7m, not auto-updates from the RC.

Smashes IE9 download figures either way!

26 March 2011, 10:45 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Quoting Anonymousewiuu2945u389:
Smashes IE9 download figures either way!

That doesn't make it good though!
9 million downloads ...... I just wonder how many uninstalled it though.
I was a fan of FF up until FF3, and FF4 has not reclaimed me.




26 March 2011, 2:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Me In Oz:
I just wonder how many uninstalled it though.


That's not much of a debate, is it? The same could be asked of IE9. and, as I already said, how many people downloaded IE9 for XP only to find-out that they could not install it.

26 March 2011, 6:10 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CraziestOzzy (New user):

I actually submitted the same comment...Firefox is copping a pounding from users who have been shafted with this clearly BETA version 4 and reverting back to 3.6 or moving to Chrome.

26 March 2011, 5:39 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

Quoting petert:
I like the minimalist look

That usually means it's ugly and belongs at home on a linux pc.

And 'I Geek and I Vote' beat me to the post down below ...... Font rendering is awful.

FF4 is NOT any faster than Chrome or IE9 by a long shot.
It needs a patch quick smart.




26 March 2011, 2:40 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

I somehow doubt MS was really developing IE7 for 5 years - They gave the impression they only made the changes it had because they noticed "normal" people were using Firefox, Safari and other such browsers.

25 March 2011, 8:21 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SydneyGeek (New user):

Just downloaded FF4 and it's good. It feels quick, I like the new look too. Just for the heck of it I downloaded IE9 as well (Vista, Core 2 Duo machine) and so far it's a dog. Takes forever to load; maybe it will improve after a restart (had to restart anyway during the install...)

25 March 2011, 8:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SydneyGeek (New user):

I like it. Quick, looks good, installed easily. And Chrome 10 works well too. By comparison IE9 runs like a sick dog on my PC (Vista, Core2 Duo, 2Gb RAM)


25 March 2011, 8:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Downloaded it. Installed it. Regretted it.
Lost my status bar (colour eyedropper and proxy switcher went with it).
Hate how the link URL takes a second or so to pop up - my brain acting faster than my computer? I hope not!

I do like the improved speed though. I just wish they'd made a simple button to keep the clutter - some of us do use it enough for it to matter.

25 March 2011, 9:06 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Quoting Tin:
Downloaded it. Installed it. Regretted it.
I'm with you .......... but I uninstalled it too ;)


Quoting Tin:
Hate how the link URL takes a second or so to pop up
It's not just you, It takes a good second on my rig too.
And I'm sure my brain is not faster than my i7 2600 :)




26 March 2011, 2:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Tin:
Hate how the link URL takes a second or so to pop up

Me too!
It is noticeably slower




26 March 2011, 2:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (User):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
Quoting Tin:
Hate how the link URL takes a second or so to pop up

Me too!
It is noticeably slower


Interesting, it comes up more or less instantly on my computer, albeit with a fade-in effect.

28 March 2011, 10:42 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting Anonymousewiuu2945u389:
Interesting, it comes up more or less instantly on my computer, albeit with a fade-in effect.


It could just be that fade-in that makes it feel slow - we're used to seeing it instantly the moment our mouse cursor touches a link.
This is the one part of FF4 I will not get used to. The rest I could learn to deal with (including the removal of the back/forward drop down, which I used regularly - holding in the back button takes far too long)

28 March 2011, 2:37 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

I Geek and I Vote (User):

The font rendering in FF4 is terrible!
I compared it alongside IE 9, Chrome and FF3.6 and all are much clearer than FF4. I noted on the FF forums some FF users have gone back to v3.6 because of this problem.
The rest of FF4 is great but I won't be using it until Mozilla fix the font rendering.


25 March 2011, 10:39 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

I Geek and I Vote (User):

Delete duplicate post.

25 March 2011, 10:39 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CraziestOzzy (New user):

I saw that...my mistake, browser did not refresh page after post....can't find where to remove duplicate so sent report off to admin.

26 March 2011, 5:47 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CraziestOzzy (New user):

I for one, would be interested to know how many users reverted back to Firefox 3.6 after they discovered that this new release from Firefox behaved more like a BETA release and is currently getting a pounding from users such as myself for a dysfunctional 4 version.

26 March 2011, 5:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CraziestOzzy (New user):

I for one will be keen to know how many users are actually reverting back to Firefox 3.6 having been shafted with an apparent BETA release in the guise of Firefox 4.
Firefox is copping a pounding in their discussion boards with their dysfunctional version 4, with many users of mature mind considering going to Google Chrome.

26 March 2011, 5:38 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

techdribble (User):

I downloaded FF4 but went back to 3.6.x. Status bar removal is a pain I dont particularly care if I gain an extra 10 pixels by not having it. On a 24" monitor that sort of saving is irrelevant and the pop URL display is a hackers delight. This release has a touch of the "Vistas" (pre SP1) about it.

28 March 2011, 8:58 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (User):

Sorry everyone, but I haven't had any problems (except for having to hack the Address Bar "I'm feeling lucky" back in on about:config) with it, so I'm with Peter T's original post on this one.

I too actually like the new interface (which I've further bombed now...)

Your resident Firefox fanboy has finished his post.

28 March 2011, 10:50 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

fleece358 (New user):

Lets not forget FF is not sponsored by some big company. Its normal for their to be some problems with major releases. If mozilla responds to all these concerns being mentions FF4.1 will be awesome.

28 March 2011, 11:05 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

I have all the latest browers installed but none beat IE9 in 64bit mode.
I try and use FF now and then to see what is better but always go back to IE.
Now that I can run flash in 64bit I will stay with IE9 and loving it!

29 March 2011, 12:28 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

I have all the latest browers installed but none beat IE9 in 64bit mode.
I try and use FF now and then to see what is better but always go back to IE.
Now that I can run flash in 64bit I will stay with IE9 and loving it!

29 March 2011, 12:28 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Cornerstone member):

Additional evidence the FF4 use is significantly greater than IE9 use:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/firefox-4-usage-outpaces-ie9/12083?tag=content;search-results-rivers

29 March 2011, 9:05 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Quoting petert:
Additional evidence the FF4 use is significantly greater than IE9 use:

And that means, what?
That we should all migrate to FF4?
Browsers are free. Just pick your favourite and use it.
I'll stick with Chrome.


29 March 2011, 10:26 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Cornerstone member):

It means what it means; no more, no less.

29 March 2011, 11:57 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (Senior Forumologist):

Just cos more ppl use it, doesn't mean it's better

firefox comes installed on most GUI Linux distros, so i'm guessing they get counted too.

meh, again, it comes down to what you're used to using.

I quickly read the above comments and it kinda sounds like ppl go AHAH! FF4 > IE9, but it slow, and doesn't seem to work like it should, and i'm going back to Chrome/IE, but FF4 it's still better!

29 March 2011, 3:14 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Cornerstone member):

It is definitely all about personal preference.

29 March 2011, 3:19 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

banj0 (New user):

To all those people complaining about the look, you can always just go into view>toolbars, and then highlight all the options you want back.

31 March 2011, 4:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

banj0 (New user):

To all those people complaining about the look, you can always just go into view>toolbars, and then highlight all the options you want back.

31 March 2011, 4:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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