New Next G cap plans: double allowances, free data

Dan Warne
10 May 2010, 2:13 PM


Has hell just frozen over? Telstra has radically improved its Next G cap plans, making it far more competitive in price with other networks.


If you've heard from friends how good the Next G network is compared to Optus, Vodafone and 3, but then been bowled over by the high prices Telstra charges to use it, you're not alone.

Telstra's previous management was thoroughly unapologetic about the high prices, saying the company was selling a first-class ticket to high speed data and unequalled voice coverage, and it had a commensurately high price-tag. But then, that same management team presided over a disastrous drop in share price, and new CEO David Thodey promised early on in his tenure to set things right and get prices down to something that ordinary people could afford.

Gradually, each of the Telstra business units has been shaking out the roaches in their pricing and releasing updated prices that are more approachable. Some have been better than others -- for example, while Telstra BigPond's pricing was greatly improved, it's still a far cry from what you can get with other high quality ISPs such as iiNet or Internode.

However, today's announcement of new cap plans for Next G really is a vast improvement, and will make the Next G network far more accessible for everyone. Telstra hasn't revised its cap plans since it launched its initial 3G network -- before Next G even -- so they were pretty pricey compared to the competition.

In case you're not familiar with the old plans, here they are:



Those plans don't include any data, either, so if you wanted to use a smartphone, you had to buy a Telstra "browsing pack". Here they are too:



Thankfully, Telstra has done away with this outdated pricing scheme and come out with new plans that offer a generous voice allowance along with an amount of data included as part of the price.

The new plans offer up to twice the calling allowance of the previous plans (though, curiously, not all plans are quite double the allowance.)

These new plans will be available for customers to switch to from tomorrow, 11th May.



That new $79 cap plan looks like it would be a great one for anyone who only needs occasional access to wireless broadband on their laptop -- 500MB would be enough to cover both smartphone usage and a few logins a month on a laptop using tethering (not doing operating system updates and so on, obviously!)

There's also rumored to be an "under the counter" $29 cap plan which Telstra shops will only offer you if you absolutely refuse to accept any other plans and start walking out of the shop to head round the corner to one of their competitors. According to Whirlpool posts, it includes $150 calling credit and a rather piddly 30MB of data -- just enough to do very, very occasional web browsing on your phone.

Telstra also announced a range of plans called "Ultimate II" which succeed their original "Ultimate" plans and have a different charging structure -- you get a certain number of minutes of voice calls included, along with a certain number of prepaid SMSes, and then you also get an additional dollar amount to spend on whatever services you like.



So how do all these plans compare to Optus, Vodafone and 3?  Well, Telstra is still more expensive -- as you would expect with their Next G network advantage. But take a look at Optus' cap plans -- they don't include any data. So although the calling credits look good, they're perhaps not as good as they might appear at first glance.



Of course, there's also Optus' iPhone plans, which do include voice and data together (and allow you to get an iPhone handset at reduced or no upfront cost):



Vodafone's cap plans seem to be worse than Telstra's caps in general.



Vodafone also has some VERY good unlimited calling plans if you are OK with paying $100 a month. The only catch with these plans is that they don't include voicemail retrieval -- that's charged at 90c a minute on top of the plan fee, nor do they include 13/1300/1800 numbers, which are also charged at standard call rates.



Telstra's plans actually seem to be better than Three's caps, which is very surprising, given Three's traditionally aggressive discounting stance.



One thing we're still waiting to hear back from Telstra on is whether its cap plans will include any mobile handset subsidy -- traditionally, Telstra has not offered any reduction in handset price to people going on cap plans. Competitor networks, offer heavy subsidy on handsets, of course, which is a somewhat hidden value benefit in their plans compared to Telstra's.

Still, these are massive improvements in value from Telstra.

So what do you think of Telstra's new plans? Will it be enough to tempt you to move over?

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Pauly (New user):

Yes new plans include handset subsidy, you can get an HTC Desire fully subsidised on a $79 cap, Nokia 6720 or E71 on a $49 or S/E X10 on a $99.
You can also convert the 200mb of data on the $49 cap to 500mb for an extra $10.
When comparing the plans you do need to look up the call rate of other networks as generally they are charged at a higher rate than Telstra and/or are charged PER MINUTE rather than per 30 seconds which can reduce the realistic call usage by around 10%
You can also get a $10 discount off the plan if you have landline and broadband with Telstra

10 May 2010, 4:55 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jase13 (New user):

Um,

"One thing we're still waiting to hear back from Telstra on is whether its cap plans will include any mobile handset subsidy"

Its right there in your graphic. $20-$30 MRO Credits.

10 May 2010, 5:52 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lordy16 (New user):

The handset issue is quite important - for example, on Telstra's plans that don't include the handset subsidy you pay for the handset and the plan, in a lot of cases it's better for you to buy the handset outright from overseas or somewhere like mobicity and go on one of Optus's BYO plans which, depending on which plan you go on DO include an option of bundled data as one of the bonus options. That's what I'm looking at doing for the HTC Desire

10 May 2010, 8:06 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting lordy16:
Optus's BYO plans which, depending on which plan you go on DO include an option of bundled data as one of the bonus options. That's what I'm looking at doing for the HTC Desire

WTF, its included on a subsidised $79 cap! how much more do you need to save?



11 May 2010, 10:54 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lordy16 (New user):

No need to get worked up - but I don't want to go on a 79 cap I want to go on a 49 cap and it's cheaper to do so onoptus, like I said it depends what plan you go on

11 May 2010, 11:08 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting lordy16:
but I don't want to go on a 79 cap I want to go on a 49 cap and it's cheaper to do so onoptus, like I said it depends what plan you go on


Ok so go on a $49 cap and you get $480 ($20 per month) off the cost of the desire making it $299 or $12.46 per month. 12 month australian warranty, better coverage and data speeds


11 May 2010, 3:42 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lordy16 (New user):

That's fine, except then I have to get a 10 dollar browsing pack as well which pushes the monthly cost up to 71 dollars, plus to get that price I'd have to be on a 24 month contract with telstra. Withrhe optus byo I can just go on a 12 month contract.

11 May 2010, 4:36 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting lordy16:
That's fine, except then I have to get a 10 dollar browsing pack as well which pushes the monthly cost up to 71 dollars, plus to get that price I'd have to be on a 24 month contract with telstra. Withrhe optus byo I can just go on a 12 month contract.

No the $49 Telstra cap plans includes a $10 data plan which has 200mb, you dont pay extra , the Optus sim only only includes $350 of calls/sms, compared to $400 of calls, both plans have the same call rate but Optus charge per minute, not per 30 seconds. It may be a 12 month plan, but then you could do a Telstra cap over 12 months and still get a $240 discount off the cost of the phone making it $539 or $44.91 over 12 months



11 May 2010, 5:16 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lordy16 (New user):

I use over 3000mb of data a month so I would need at least another $10 data pack. Getting the phone from
overseas is a total cost of 600 Australian dollars, which has a 2 year warranty not a 12 month warranty. Overall, for my situation it's cheaper Togo with optus. It doesn't matter that they charge per minute cause most of the alls I make are to other optus users and I get 350 dollars of optus to optus credit on top of the 330 I getfor other calls.

Are you a telstra salesman or something?

11 May 2010, 5:24 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lordy16 (New user):

300mb not 3000mb

11 May 2010, 5:27 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

deeviation (New user):

If you just took up a new contract with an Ultimate plan (HTC desire...couldn't resist) do you need to pay the ETC charge? or can you switch without incurring penalty?

Early adopter fee strikes again??

10 May 2010, 10:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting deeviation:
If you just took up a new contract with an Ultimate plan (HTC desire...couldn't resist) do you need to pay the ETC charge? or can you switch without incurring penalty?

if you are on an $85 ultimate you get upgraded to the ultimate II's automatically. If your on a $55, the move up to an $85 for a week then drop back down, you will then be on the Ultimate II 55 plan
Early adopter fee strikes again??




11 May 2010, 10:56 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

The Big Baboo (User):

? don't know what all the fuss is about.I never surf the web on my phone.
Geeeee think of all the stuff "I might" be missing out on and I still have a prepaid account after four years of using the blasted thing.
That's right ladies & germs.$50 usually lasts me about 3-5months as I only use it for emergencies and the odd text message.So to all the telcos out there with their multiplicity of schemes I say phhhhhhhhhht.

11 May 2010, 11:23 AM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

apt.pupil (User):

Quoting The Big Baboo:
$50 usually lasts me about 3-5months as I only use it for emergencies and the odd text message.So to all the telcos out there with their multiplicity of schemes I say phhhhhhhhhht.

the operative word there being you
Once upon a time when i was a D2D salesperson, i would go through an entire $79 prepaid cap recharge a week for my work mobile.

Nowadays, being a retail dirtbag, it is not so extreme, but there are people out there who use high volume calls. this is what these high(er) value plans are for



11 May 2010, 3:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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