Telstra announces internet for trains... in Europe

Angus Kidman28 August 2007, 4:34 AM

Under fire for Next G coverage issues in Australia, Telstra has just announced a $3.6 million project to provide network services to London-Paris train operator Eurostar.


On long-distance commuter trains, notebook computers are a more frequent sight than paperback novels these days. Jump on a service in Robina, Gosford or Bacchus Marsh and elbow room will undoubtedly be at a premium as people whose jobs require them to wear suits venture towards their state capitals and catch up on a bit of light PowerPoint preparation.

With the exception of the occasional brave soul playing with a 3G card and a steady stream of low-bandwidth BlackBerry owners, however, you won't see many people actually accessing the Internet. Geographical diversity, the battery-draining nature of many mobile cards, the frequent appearance of tunnels and a lingering sense that people loathe hearing an endless stream of conversations proclaiming "I'm on the train" mean that getting a reliable signal whilst on a train is always something of an uphill struggle.

That's not to say it's impossible. This writer once experimented with getting Internet access via a Vodafone GPRS connection on the Overland train service between Melbourne and Adelaide, and managed to maintain a successful (albeit horrendously slow) connection around 70 per cent of the half-day trip. Telstra would doubtlessly claim that better results could be achieved via Next G, but that's something I'll have to check another time (it wasn't launched when I did the original run).

In the global scheme of things, Australians should count themselves relatively lucky with their access to mobile signals on public transport as it is. For instance, the underground railway platforms on city services in all our capitals have long offered enough signal to enable phone calls and checking your BlackBerry email.

London's Underground service is much more widely used, and yet experiments in offering on-platform access there have only just been announced and won't begin until April 2008. Conversely, we don't have anything to match the end-to-end WiFi service available on the Heathrow Express -- though at five pounds (close enough to $12 Australian) for a fifteen minute journey, that may not be such a loss.

In any event, all this potential commuter activity doesn't mean trains (and train operators) don't need those sorts of communications systems themselves. It's in this context that Telstra's European operations arm has scored itself a nice $3.6 million deal to connect the various operational bases of the Eurostar train network (which links London, Paris and Brussels via the Channel Tunnel) with an MPLS network. The new MPLS network will replace an ageing frame relay system. Eurostar's new London station at St Pancras, replacing the current one at Waterloo, is due to open in November, so the timeframe for getting the system working is tight.

Telstra would have faced stiff competition for the deal, so the fact it won the contract is impressive (no matter how much you want to hate Telstra for other reasons). With large rail networks in every virtually every European country, the market is rather more diverse than Australia's ever-shrinking railway system.

One area of active development has been in the promotion of GSM-R, a special variant of GSM designed for use in railway communications systems as a replacement for existing specialised radio networks. While GSM-R isn't designed for general use -- you can't leach onto it to ensure your own signal remains strong -- the fact that it uses the same core technologies as GSM means that equipment is much cheaper than with a specialised network. Nortel runs a specialised GSM-R centre of excellence in Germany, and has been actively promoting the technology to Australian railway networks for some years.

For commuters, better railway communications systems should mean more efficient railway companies and fewer service delays. Unfortunately, they don't yet translate to Internet access all along the rails -- and if they ever do, you can bet you'll be paying prices that make even Next G look cheap.

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DK:

So, Telstra who can't get things their own way here spit the dummy and take the money they "earned" from years of price gouging based on their monopoly here - and spend it overseas, pay their imported management team massive bonuses (for what?), and STILL campaign against the competition with a scare campaign about them "sending their money overseas"

Pot
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Black

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Kettle:

DK, you obviously don't understand investing. Telstra is investing money to get profit from overseas WHICH ENDS UP IN AUSTRALIA.... exactly what Singtel does here, except that Singtel's money ends up going in Singapore rather than here.

And another thing. Why can't APC stick to journalism rather than trying to knife Telstra in every story it runs? Why not report the story and just the story instead of lining it with jibes? It's getting old guys.




29 February 2008, 8:47 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

The Doctor:

What are you talking about "Getting old?" It's funny when people think that the journos are making Telstra look bad. Why would anyone do that on purpose?

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Anonymous7895:

It really isn't hard to find fault in Telstra. APC need only mention telstra in any article and the only thing left to report is how telstra has again failed in actually pleasing its consumers. They are not biased, telstra just doesn't have anything 'good' about them to be reported.

29 February 2008, 8:47 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous12345:

Why cant they get it right here first that would ok.

No wonder I want to sue them again maybe this time I will win, they just never ever listen to who got them there in the first place, oh that would all the Australian customers before the days of Optus etc.
Fair go Telstra, what about your crappy network here first, think ya might get it going properly one day soon. I fro one will happy to see you go when Elders and Co have there own network I cannot wait maybe like the rest of Australia.



29 February 2008, 8:47 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Richard Olsen:

Unbelievable. How is it that they can't even get their network running properly here, and yet are allowed to go gallavanting off to Europe to do someone elses. Bring back the PMG that'll fix it.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

daDude:

this was very objective report, guess kettle either didnt read it before commenting or is a telstra paid troll (more than a few these days & dont think G9 is beyound it either!).

I think the problem is i can recall the asia investments, when telstra was rich & newly privatised. That spending spree was written off (read lower share price) & i wonder if telstra even wants to play in such a small country. Lots of others do but they dont seem to.

Hope it makes money, seems price gouging ($12 for 15min access) sounds like the sort of deals telstra execs would love!

I personly hate telstra, they refuse to be competive (when was the last time they revised pricing & download limits?), shareholders are demanding divitends they cant afford & someones got to pay for the loans telstra services to pay them i guess but not me, not ever again!!!!

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (2 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wired076:

Telstra has had lots of problems over the years and for good reason as normally technical support is non existent or crap especially seeing the amount of money we have to pay for their services.

I have been a Telstra customer for years now. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone though.

Hopefully this may be just the chance I have been hoping for Telstra having an investment overseas in which to bring money back to Australia to decrease the already inflated prices. For e.g. Liberty Plan is 1.5Mbps 12 GB $70 a month.

This is not even ADSL 2 and by the way is not available in my area but if it was i would more than likely sign up so Telstra bite the bullet and get more investments overseas if that is what is going to make you more competitive.

But I would have to see it to believe it as their track record is against them..

Hopefully they can start to improve some day.

They haven't even finished fixing the networks here or the systems before moving overseas and I bet this extra money won't help the issue. It may only increase the CEO of Telstra's salary.

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