Telstra names the date for 80Mbit/s broadband

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Dan Warne03 June 2007, 11:54 AM

According to BigPond Chief Justin Milne, 80Mbit/s broadband is just around the corner, and he's made a video presentation telling staff when it will be available.


Justin Milne: the BigPond chief has named the date for 80Mbit/s wireless broadbandJustin Milne: the BigPond chief has named the date for 80Mbit/s wireless broadband
According to BigPond Chief Justin Milne, 80Mbit/s wireless broadband over the Telstra Next G mobile network is just around the corner. He's even prepared to say when it will be available to customers.

Milne said Telstra will be offering 40Mbit/s wireless broadband next year, and 80Mbit/s two years after that.

The claim was made in a sales roadshow video for BigPond's sales staff, obtained by APC.

Milne encouraged Telstra sales staff to start talking to customers about the upcoming 80 megabit network speed.

"We launched with 3.6 megabits per second, we're now up to 7.2, we'll be 14.4 before you blink, next year up to 40, two years time after that up to 80, so this is really a paradigm shifter," Milne is shown saying.

"In a couple of years time, what you'll have is what is undreamed-of speeds, even on cable, but you'll have that wirelessly, and mobile - effectively wherever you are in Australia."

When asked again by the video's presenter, Toby Travanner, to restate how long it would take to achieve the 40 and 80 megabit speeds, Milne replied, "a couple ... three years before we get those 80 megabit speeds."

"In a couple of years, especially when you've got 80 megabits a second, we're going to be doing a whole bunch of stuff we haven't even thought of yet.

"Can salespeople start talking about the future like this?" asked the presenter. "Sure!" replied Milne.

Although the technology for 80Mbit/s broadband over wireless networks does not yet exist outside of research labs, Milne appears certain about the timeline for implementation on Telstra's Next G network.

There would be serious legal implications if Telstra salespeople sold BigPond Wireless on the basis that speed upgrades would be available in a certain timeframe and they did not eventuate.

Under fair trading legislation, BigPond Wireless customers could be entitled to refunds if they made purchasing decisions based on an assurances from salespeople about the product's future capabilities, but later found the goods were not fit for the purpose for which they were sold - such as accessing the internet at 80Mbit/s within three years.


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raindog:

Will These monkeys leave these higher speeds locked out to the consumer much like they currently do with much of their ADSL2+ capable exchanges. Or will it be even more expensive and unattainable than the current NextG offerings.
200Mb/month at 80Mbit/s will be a very short and cheap thrill.



29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Brendan:

Isn't it wonderful how Telstra plans to offer 80Mbps to our capital city cousins yet it offers me landline only access with just 10kbps average download speed for customers located in the heart of Hervey Bay, Queensland. Did you know they also offer zero coverage for both GPRS and Next G mobile services as well? Helen Coonan needs to be sacked and replaced by a minister with some experience in the bush. Some one like Senator Barnaby Joyce would be good. He has the accounting background to deal with the numbers and the common sense to understand that cross-subsidisation and decentralisation are vitally important to Australia. Mr Rudd, I hope you are listening to this.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tony:

So 80Mbit/s for NextG in two or three year's time? Why not improve BigPond Cable in the meantime?

BigPond Broadband Cable users have DOCSIS 2.0 cable modems now, but the cable service is nowhere near the speeds that DOCSIS 2.0 is capable of.

For example, the BigPond cable upload speed at 256kbps is four times slower than iiNet's 1000kbps upload speed and thirteen times slower than Internode's 3500kbps ADSL Annex M upload speed.

Some broadband users don't need faster upload speeds, true, but anybody who works from home, or wants to have good video phone calls to relatives overseas (25% of Aussies are born overseas remember) etc do. Also, small businesses (remember they represent 70% of the economy) need faster broadband, both download and upload.

The only reason that Telstra likes ADSL is because it means people have to keep their telephone lines.

If Telstra demerged and sold off their exchanges shareholders would win as the two assets share prices would go up and Telstra would be freed off the legislative burdens it operates under.

A dermeged Telstra infrastructure unit would have the exchanges (and ergo the telephone infrastructure). The other half of Telstra would have Next G and its cable offering.

Under Howard nothing will change for Telstra. Under Labour, yes, Labour would pay for broadband, but the bad news there for Telstra would be additional controlling legislation or face the prospect of losing its share of Foxtel.

Clearly, it would be in Telstra's and its shareholders interests, if Telstra at its own initiative demerged and gave shares in both entitities to its existing shareholders. Otherwise, the political meddling, bad as it has been, is only going to get worse for Telstra.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Adam:

I can see the sales pitch now

"You can check your emails 3ms/s quicker with Telstra wireless and use all your 500mb data cap upto 5 times faster than standard 1.5mbit NextG service"

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tom:

Exactly. So you get like 7 minutes of access per month and it costs you 22 cents per second. This is bogus.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Craig:

How many customers are going to buy Next G products thinking the will work at these higher speeds, only to find they are going to need to buy more very expensive hardware. I am sure Telstra is not going to give people free upgrades to the new hardware.

The reason I and so many other small business owners don't use the Next G network is simply cost. Sure if you really need broadband in the regional areas or the bush, well then your stuck with Next G and its near criminal rates.

With more reasonable pricing and plans plus its great network coverage, Telstra could do so well with this service. Instead Telstra cripples the service (like they did with ADSL) simply because of the pricing models.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous22343:

There's no chance in hell they'll get 80mbps from their pissy 3G setup.

The technology won't exist for at least 5 years, and even then 80mbps is the BEST CASE scenario under a 4x4 MIMO system for 3G LTE.

They're just trying to fend off the coming WiMax wave, which ALREADY HAS speeds of 40mbps over 10Mhz of spectrum - and 80mbps with 20Mhz of spectrum and 2x2 MIMO (Two transmit and receive antennas).

Telstra doesn't have the spectrum, nor the hardware. More garbage as usual from Justin to try and divert attention away from the much more cost effective growing wireless competition.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BrendanH:

80MB might be a while off but they will get to 40MB/s quite easily when the modulation is changed as planned from 16QAM to 64QAM.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous23432:

Yes, but you'd have to be sitting under the base station to be able to use 64QAM.

SnR will render 64QAM totally useless in any other situation.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Blackie:

Spin Doctoring again.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tin:

They will have the world's fastest way to send their customers bankupt. With their current well known pricing, you could use the base limit in a matter of seconds, then pull almost $5000 excess in about 1 hour.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

webmonkey44:

don't believe it

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

david lee:

Even though the carriers have had it for how many years.
I do like adam's comment

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nila:

Love all these high speeds they love to throw about.

They're missing the point - WHO CARES!!!

While the download quotas are anywhere near what they're at this is all pointless rubbish.

And they're talking about how these speeds will revolutionise things and how its going to be so changed in a few years - they're right, it will be, but not in Australia as no one will be able to use any of this stuff without at least a $100 plan to actually give them anywhere near decent bandwidth allowance.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ashik (New user):

i lv telstra cable. This is super fast speed .U cannot disagree with me!

04 June 2008, 12:08 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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