Telstra rejects govt internet filtering trials

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Angus Kidman08 December 2008, 9:24 PM

If the nation's biggest ISP doesn't have anything to do with them, how much reliance can be placed on tests of the controversial "clean feed" proposal?


Federal government plans for filtering Australian Internet access have suffered another blow with the revelation that Telstra, the country's biggest provider of Internet services, won't be taking part in the ISP trials which form the first stage of the plan.

In a statement outlining its position, Telstra was quick to emphasise that it would be happy to participate in any scheme that finally gets implemented, presumably hoping to avoid the "anti-children" tag which the government is quick to fling onto anyone who points out problems with its cherished but deeply flawed scheme. "We have no fundamental difficulties with a legislated regime for blocking a defined ACMA blacklist of illegal sites," the statement noted. "Telstra shares the Government's desire to make the Internet safer for families and children."

However, Sol and the gang won't be taking part in the stage 1 trials of content filtering, apparently because the whole thing is hard to do in a practical sense (surprise, surprise). "Telstra is not in a position to participate in the Government's Internet filtering trial, primarily due to customer management issues," the statement said. Can you hear the sound of gnashing teeth in Canberra? And more to the point: if a company the size of Telstra can't manage a partial trial of the technology, what hope do Australia's other 600-odd ISPs have if it becomes compulsory?

Ominously, however, Telstra says it is running its own evaluation of blacklisting technologies. Those tests are likely to be better defined than the official effort, which simultaneously require that customers not to be told if they're testing a "clean feed" while being asked to fill out surveys on its effectiveness and impact on their Internet usage.

Other ISPs, including big-league players iiNet and Optus, are planning to take part, but both have emphasised that a key reason for doing so is to ensure that customers aren't saddled with a poorly-tested regime.

Some commentators have even gone so far as to say the Rudd Government is conducting the internet filtering trial as a charade to prove to the religious right that the entire concept is unworkable. David Marr's interesting analysis is published in this month's edition of The Monthly magazine, and he argues that the entire plan is concocted to make the government look like it is doing all that it can to stop objectionable material reaching the eyes of innocent citizens, while engineering a demonstration of how impossible the system would be to implement.

Meanwhile, customers can voice their own views at a series of protests against the plan scheduled for capital cities this Saturday.


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Your Average Joe (Senior member):

"Some commentators have even gone so far as to say the Rudd Government is conducting the internet filtering trial as a charade to prove to the religious right that the entire concept is unworkable. David Marr's interesting analysis is published in this month's edition of The Monthly magazine, and he argues that the entire plan is concocted to make the government look like it is doing all that it can to stop objectionable material reaching the eyes of innocent citizens, while engineering a demonstration of how impossible the system would be to implement." - APC

GOD ! I Hope So .....

09 December 2008, 10:58 AM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
"Some commentators have even gone so far as to say the Rudd Government is conducting the Internet filtering trial as a charade to prove to the religious right that the entire concept is unworkable.

Regardless of what the motives, any properly run test will show this lunacy as unworkable.


Quoting Your Average Joe:
argues that the entire plan is concocted to make the government look like it is doing all that it can

That's a pretty fair assumption. Team Rudd are absolute masters at the hearts and minds party tricks.


Quoting Your Average Joe:
a demonstration of how impossible the system would be to implement

The problem here is Conroy is involved and he has a less than tenuous grasp on what is and isn't possible, his ploughing ahead with a ludicrous architecture for an equally ludicrous NBN comes to mind. Or maybe that is just another "make them em feel good while we do nothing and spend lots party trick" too.

Quoting Your Average Joe:
GOD ! I Hope So ....

Your not alone in that hope. and only a deity what some of these clowns have in mind.


09 December 2008, 12:04 PM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

NetR@nger (Cornerstone member):

Kudos to them for at least caring enough to have a crack,but its pretty obvious that this filter idea isnt going to work.Maybe they could come up with a portable device that can be attached to the end pc and supply content filtering that way...anyway,just a thought.

09 December 2008, 1:12 PM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mat_351 (New user):

This policy reminds me of the Patriot Act in the US. The US government used the threat of terrorism to strip its citizens of many of their rights and privacy and this Internet Filter is going the same way. They use an emotive issue like child-porn then use that leverage to filter all internet access for everyone. No doubt they will monitor users internet habits to identify and target people involed in pretty much anything they consider unsavoury. Will they read our emails too? If this goes ahead it should be an opt-in system and not force-fed on everyone.

31 December 2008, 6:13 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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