The cheapest MacBook you'll see this year: MSI Wind with OS X

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Leigh Stark04 September 2008, 1:15 PM

With just a few days left until Apple's special event which may or may not include next-gen MacBooks, I’m going to tell you about the cheapest MacBook you’ll find this year.


Even with the possibility that Apple might actually release a sub-1000 dollar tablet PC, this is still less expensive and is likely to have a better battery and more compatibility with everything because simply put my MacBook is not a MacBook.

My MacBook is a PC.


You might have heard of the term “Hackintosh” before: a word that uber-geeks carry around with them as if to say “I made this, this is my badge to wear,” a Hackintosh is a PC that has been built to run Mac OS. With Apple’s move to Intel chips, this is now a lot easier to do than it was before as the system architecture between that of a Mac and a PC is very similar.

The idea is very basic: because my PC runs an Intel chip, theoretically it should be able to run Mac OS too.

But the problem in the past has always been finding parts. How do you know what video card and motherboard combination will work? Will the end result be less expensive than just buying a Mac system and if not, why shouldn’t I just go out and buy that?

Normally, that would be the problem but not in the case of the MSI Wind. This new portable computer finding itself in the newly formed Netbook category – an area filled with Asus Eee’s, HP MiniNote’s, and Dell Mini Inspirons – is capable of running Mac OS quite easily. So easily, in fact, that all you really need to do is plug in an external drive and put in a Mac OS installation disk and you can get it running. At less than $700 Australian, this could very well be the cheapest portable Mac you’ll find this year or next.

But before you go plonking down some cash on your next portable Mac, here are some of the current problems with running Mac OS on your MSI Wind:

Wireless doesn’t work right out of the box:

Sure, it might seem like an obvious thing to have but MSI didn’t exactly put themselves in the legal quagmire that consumers won’t exactly find themselves under. As a result, the mini PCI-Express card that MSI chose to go with for the Wind doesn’t actually have drivers for Mac OS. If you leave your Windows XP partition installed, you’ll be able to get Wireless working under the b & g standards there quite fine, but if you want to get it working under Mac OS you’ll need a different approach: you’ll need to spend about thirty bucks.

Because the MSI Wind can be opened up, you can replace components like say the hard drive, memory, and wireless card. In this instance, you’ll want to grab a Dell 1490 PCI-Express card which will find itself quite compatible with an operating system like Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard).


The sound ports on the side don’t work

I hope you’re not planning to use your headphone out or microphone in on your Hackintosh Wind because they won’t work. Much like with the original WiFi card found in the Wind, it’s another driver incompatibility that no one could have really expected. The Wind is, after all, made to run Windows XP and not Mac OS.

But there is already a way around this: you will need to find yourself a USB sound card. Turtle Labs make them as do Creative and you probably won’t be hard pressed finding companies that make Mac OS compatibly USB sound devices. Whatever you find, plug it in and that’s your workaround.

And that seems to be the bulk of what doesn’t work. So what does work?

Everything else.

For the sub-700 buck price that the MSI Wind will set you back, you can a 1.6 Ghz Intel Atom processor, 80 gigs of hard drive space, and 1 gig of memory. Add in the ability that you can upgrade your computer without messing with the warranty (provided you don’t screw anything up in the process) and you’ve got an easy to work with and well-designed Netbook. I threw in a 250gb SATA notebook drive and an extra gig of memory, and once you’ve put the Dell mini PCI-Express card in, you have yourself a decent MacBook Air competitor that is only 10 inches and has a battery that will last between four and six hours.


The interesting thing that needs to be remember about the MSI Wind is that it is not a MacBook in any way. You’re not paying for the style, design, or functionality that you’d normally get if you’d plonk down the cash for say a MacBook. But until Apple release something in a smaller form factor – something that Apple used to do before they moved to the Intel chips – this is about as good as it gets if you want the power of both operating systems in something that’s a little bigger than a book.

You can find out more about how exactly to turn an MSI Wind into a Hackintosh here at the MSI Wind forums. Of course, the legal aspects of sourcing a modified OS X installer disc that makes installation onto an MSI Wind easy are your problem entirely. As always at APC, we recommend you follow Apple's licence agreement to the letter…


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JGrant (User):

Any form of installing OSX on non-Apple hardware is illegal. Even if you buy the OS from the store you can't install it on anything but Apple computers.

04 September 2008, 2:23 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Read and weep:

"This License allows you to install and use the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled or Apple-licensed computer at a time."

That's where the iPod Sticker comes in Handy. Stuck it on the bottom of the laptop.....

I never boot into it though. Ubuntu is still faster, smoother.

04 September 2008, 4:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Even better is how for some time they included an Apple logo sticker with the retail copies of the OS... Brilliant.

Oh, and whether it's legal or not has not been tested in a court. I suspect in many countries, it's fine to ignore that license clause (I'm not a lawyer though).

04 September 2008, 5:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

The one company to watch is PsyStar.

The OpenMac is funny to me. But then the joke is on Mr. Jobs.

04 September 2008, 5:26 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Hmm not really....

My C731TU swapped with a T7250 and OSX86 is cheaper... $499 for the Hackbook after cashback, and benchmarked it against a MB13? Faster. But then I had 2.5Gb of ram.



04 September 2008, 3:57 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JGrant (User):

Nice! Did you run any patches or did the install go smoothly?

04 September 2008, 4:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Goes ok.... but problems arise out of Triple Booting with Grub. Vista couldn't boot until i used the Vista Bootdisc to rectify the issue.... no biggy. I mean, what do I expect from a Sub-$500 (Plus eBay CPU and some ram) 15-Inch HackBlackBook?

I haven't logged into OSX for a few months now.... it was just to prove the fact that it could be done... and see what everyone's raving on about with Leopard....



04 September 2008, 5:11 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JGrant (User):

I just want it for final cut studio, paying $2500 for the minimum required hardware (macbook pro) is hard when you just want to sometimes use the software.

05 September 2008, 9:26 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

redback (New user):

Quoting JGrant:

Replying to
JGrant I just want it for final cut studio, paying $2500 for the minimum required hardware (macbook pro) is hard when you just want to sometimes use the software.

No, it's not.

In your case, you're looking at a specific solution, and that is really the cost of entry: deal with it!

The original design constraints for any of these netbooks - including the Wind - is not for them to handle the high end computing tasks that some of our jobs dictate, and that is simply how it is. You wouldn't use a Hyundai Excel to fly to London because it's not built for that task. Same deal here.


05 September 2008, 4:23 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JGrant (User):

Quoting redback:
The original design constraints for any of these netbooks - including the Wind

I'm not suggesting running FCP on the wind, just seems crazy that after you've spent thousands on perfectly good hardware and pro video editing software for pc you need to get a second, overpriced computer in the form of a Mac just to run their software. Many people are happy with Edius, Premiere Pro and After effects but just need to be familiar with FCP for future work.

I think Apple are fortunate that they're allowed to operate in such an anticompetitive way.



08 September 2008, 10:15 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

totallyapple (New user):

It might be too late now, but why not just buy a Mac in the first place. Then buy VM Warefusion or Parrels or Boot Camp, so you can put Windows Vista or XP, or now even Windows 7 on it. Plus Windows will run faster and you get the best of both worlds. I also suggest this because any Mac in a few years can still sell for a lot of money. They do not use their value. Their are people like me who collect the older Macs. I 5 year old Mac can sell for about $700 depending give or take some. That is a great price for a 5 year old computer!!

22 January 2009, 3:42 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

redback (New user):

Well, your username really says it all, doesn't it? :) But you've clearly not even bothered to read this whole thread. Why do you bother responding when your response is filled with a load of rubbish?

Seeing as I have nothing better to do for the next five minutes, let's have a little bit of fun and totally demolish your post. :)


Quoting totallyapple:
but why not just buy a Mac in the first place

Well, first of all, you've clearly ignored the bit where I've said that I do own a MacBook. Then you've avoided the point where I've said that for certain uses a person may need to do exactly that, and that's the price of entry if one needs to use high resource programs like Final Cut Pro.

But if that's not a need - which would be the case in maybe 75% of use case scenarios, perhaps the fact that there's a price differential of some Au$1200 (minimum) might be considered by some to be significant? The fact that one can buy THREE MSI Winds for the price of one MacBook might just be a motivational factor.

And the simple fact is that many computers today are way overpowered for many of the menial tasks that people use them for. Within the Windoze world, I think it's almost laughable that your computer has to meet some level of performance standards in order to just run the OS.

Think about that for a moment: For the great majority of users, the extent of their usage is surfing, watching a video, word processing and spreadsheet compilation, and not a whole lot else. One does NOT need a whole lot of horsepower to perform those tasks, unless the bloat of the applications or the underlying OS demands that horsepower.

Ask yourself why it is that the netbook category as gone from zero to top-of-the-sales-charts in just twelve short months?

Quoting totallyapple:
Then buy VM Warefusion

Which adds a further Au$100 or so the equation. Yep, for a budget application scenario, that sure makes a whole lot of (non)sense.

And you are now suggesting that people buy a Mac so that they can run
Windoze on it. What utter folly. Please don't Bogart that joint. :)


Quoting totallyapple:
Plus Windows will run faster

Not under Fusion. Slower, by definition, and by an order of magnitude.


Quoting totallyapple:
any Mac in a few years can still sell for a lot of money

Perhaps, but I sincerely doubt that any person buying into a Wind would be looking at its resale value.



22 January 2009, 11:08 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

I doubt the Wind will run Final Cut anyway... FC requires a GPU capable of whatever that Mac 3D acceleration thing is called. Intel IGPs don't cut it.

05 September 2008, 10:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Avi Learner (New user):

By the time you add a PCI Express wireless card $69 + $25 Turtle card, plus the additional hours you will spend installing these. Then anytime Apple updates the OS, you'll have to wait for the hack update and most likely reinstall. You can buy a refurbished REAL MACBOOK for $849,00 directly from Apple.

04 September 2008, 9:37 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

redback (New user):

Quoting Avi Learner:

Replying to
Avi Learner By the time you add a PCI Express wireless card $69 + $25 Turtle card, plus the additional hours you will spend installing these


Please pay attention: the wireless card is a mini PCI, total cost $30. if you have a USB sound card available, the extra cost of that is .... yep, zero. The hardware installation is dead easy, and rather than taking hours, takes all of ten minutes.

And the whole thing works almost as well as my real MacBook, sitting right next to it, except that it's smaller and more portable, and enjoys about double the battery life.

Downsides? I've yet to see any.

04 September 2008, 11:18 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Avi Learner (New user):

By the time you add a PCI Express wireless card $69 + $25 Turtle card, plus the additional hours you will spend installing these. Then anytime Apple updates the OS, you'll have to wait for the hack update and most likely reinstall. You can buy a refurbished REAL MACBOOK for $849,00 directly from Apple.

04 September 2008, 9:37 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

I'm not sure it's illegal, well not in the way that is going to get you into any trouble. We may like to believe it, but Apple doesn't have the resources to claim damages on every petty breach of their license agreements. Just look out when you try to sell a dozen of them.

I can only see the pros of the 'Hackintosh.' The fact that someone wants to live with such a buggy, unreliable install of OS X speaks volumes for it's superiority. This is just the first step before the hackers save their dollars for a Mac. So I can't see it hurting anyone.

04 September 2008, 10:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

itconstruct (User):

So after doing all this to the MSI Wind how much would it cost you in the end?? I ask this as you say in the article that this is the cheapest macbook we can find...

05 September 2008, 8:44 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

redback (New user):

Quoting itconstruct:

itconstruct So after doing all this to the MSI Wind how much would it cost you in the end??


Nothing more than the basic cost of the Wind, which is less than 700 Pacific Pesos. The internal sound works, so you don't need to buy an external (USB) sound card.

The internal ethernet card also works within OS X, so you can connect to a wired LAN; it's only if you want wireless that you would want to spend the extra PP30 to replace the built-in one.

Extra RAM costs less than PP30, but it comes with 1GB, and te 80GB drive would also be sufficient for most users.



05 September 2008, 4:17 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ratgt (New user):

>>> How is something considered to be more of a 'Mac' and 'more portable than a MacBook':

- When you'll be sitting in some public place with the notebook on my knees and a turtle beach sound-card hanging on the side (I can already picture someone asking "Excuse me, is that a GPS-device or a 3G modem?" and you answering ridiculed "No... It's my sound card..."

- When you don't have a multi-touch trackpad and no scrolling strip (whereas on a MacBook you can scroll 360 with your two fingers).

>>> And how can something even be compared price-wise (yes, OF COURSE MacBook costs more), when:

- The MacBook's CPU is in heavy-weight class (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.1GHz - 2.4 Penryn) and Wind's CPU handles mostly 'office task' (1.6GHz Intel Atom Processor)

- It has 120 GB hard drive, opposed to Wind's 80 GB

- Its graphics-card is Intel's newer, humble X3100 (which can for ex. play many 3D games acceptably, run properly graphics-applications, etc.) in opposition to Wind's ancient GMA 950

- Wind's battery-life is laughably less than a MacBook's (2-3 times less, at best, making Wind look like a senior)

- Wind's wireless card is a 802.11b/g, while a MacBook's is a 802.11n (that is 72 Mbit/s opposed to 300 Mbit/s !!!)

And last and MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, the proper Mac OS X on your MacBook comes pre-installed (and is also included in DVDs with your Mac), NEVER needs to be hacked and receives Apple's SOFTWARE and HARDWARE UPDATES automatically without ANY need for your actions (if desired so). In other words, this means that your machine will ALWAYS be fully optimized for Mac OS X, squeezing-out every bit of its processing power !

05 September 2008, 7:50 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting ratgt:
a MacBook's is a 802.11n

No it isn't... You can't use what doesn't exist.

Quoting ratgt:
(that is 72 Mbit/s opposed to 300 Mbit/s !!!)

Speeds are wrong. 802.11g is 54mbps (or 108 if you use non-standard extensions). 802.11n proposes 248mbps, though no-one knows what it will be in the final standard.

05 September 2008, 10:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
802.11n proposes 248mbps, though no-one knows what it will be in the final standard.

And then there is reality. Those ugly blue cables are not going to be superceded anytime soon. 802.xx has a lot of numbers that are very much diminished in the real world, a few meg at best.

07 September 2008, 12:35 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

No point correcting Mac Fanboys. They're all out to defend with random facts coming from nowhere.

What makes a Mac what it is, is really only software. That's all. They just bundle some hardware so they can eradicate the issues with different manufacturers. But now that its starting to become an installable OS on anything, the same problems comes as it did with Vista. They just don't like it.

And Lets face it. Macs are nothing new. They just get whatever's available on the market and dress it up nicely with fables such as 'its 802.11n'... and every douschebag believes it.

Well, if you fanboys hates the hackbook so much, GO FILE A LAWSUIT!

08 September 2008, 1:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Quoting Hemma:
What makes a Mac what it is, is really only software.

I beg to differ. It's the great hardware design, software and the cohesion of these parts (and exclusion of all others) that makes Macs what they are. It allows Apple to make major innovations and improvements in products, which would take Microsoft and other competitors a business cycle to achieve. It improves reliability 10-fold and allows Apple to move beyond the industry norms and make products that people actually want, rather than what the computer industry will allow.

08 September 2008, 4:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

watch the youtube clip of the interview with Bill gates and Jobs... He himself admits that Apple is basically a Software company... with hardware bundled.

08 September 2008, 11:09 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MrPutnam (New user):

Thanks for the great article. If nothing else, it's hilarious to see the "one eyed" mac users negatitve responses. I'm a pc and mac user and think it great to see that like myself, leigh challenges the equipment he uses rather than blowing horns and whistles about what can't be done.
It benefits us all, something neither of the major vendors is totally focused on

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