The era of the PC is over: why Apple is beating Microsoft

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Danny Gorog06 July 2007, 6:34 AM

COMMENT |Bill Gates still believes that tablet PCs will take over the world and that the Zune will rival the iPod. It's time for a reality check in Microsoft HQ.


Hi I'm a Mac: and I'm a PC.Hi I'm a Mac: and I'm a PC.

COMMENT | The recent joint interview with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates at D5 highlighted for me what makes Apple a great company, and why Microsoft continues to struggle on all fronts except Windows and Office.

Both leaders are visionaries, that is for sure. In fact Gates built the first software company when nobody knew what a software company was, and subsequently conquered the market. His approach to selling DOS and then Windows to anybody that would buy it made sense in the early days. But he was lucky as well. Lucky that Apple didn't pursue the same 'license the OS' strategy, because if it had there's no doubt that Apple would have a larger share of the PC market than the 5% it now enjoys.

But like Steve said at D5, the era of the PC is largely over. Most innovation now is happening on what he calls post-PC devices, like music players and mobile phones. And that is what Apple is focusing on.

Microsoft, however, still doesn't get it and I believe the lack of understanding comes from the top. Gates still maintains that tablet PCs are going to take over the world, that Microsoft will eventually dethrone Google to be the new leader in search, that Zune will eventually rival the iPod for market share and that Microsoft has already conquered the smart phone market. Somebody please tell the man he is dreaming.

Let's take search as an example. There seems to be market consensus that Microsoft has to be, or is expected to compete in search. Why? What core strengths does Microsoft have that gives it the ability to compete in search? If you ask 'what are Microsoft's core competencies?', the answer is surely writing desktop software (and of course it's arguable whether they are actually good at that, or just good at marketing it). It's not search. And I don't think it ever will be. Microsoft needs to ask itself what value they can add, apart from being a competitor preventing Google from getting lazy.

Microsoft has a lot of money so the market expects them to compete in all areas but I don't think it's a winning strategy. Throwing money at a technology problem often leads to an inferior solution, and that's precisely why Apple's approach to developing products makes more sense.

Apple knows that its core strength is writing and designing software and wrapping it in sleek (but nowadays relatively generic) hardware. If Apple wanted it could also throw money into areas like search and gaming but Jobs is more disciplined then that.

Microsoft's approach is to add everything to a product - throw it all in and let the consumer work out what they want. Its business philosophy seems to follow the same path: let's do everything badly and hopefully something will be a winner.

Apple knows what to leave out - and that's where the skill is. That's why more and more consumers are choosing Apple.

When I think about the iPhone and compare it to Windows Mobile the difference is chalk and cheese. Windows Mobile is a sloppy product. No matter which way you slice it, it's still a complete disgrace.

The 'innovation' over the years from Windows CE to version 5 and 6 leaves a lot to be desired. With Windows Mobile innovation is often little more than a new desktop pattern or a new 'theme'. It's pathetic. It still takes far too many clicks to do the simplest thing like sending an SMS.

I think it's lucky that the market for phones is so fragmented and that consumers haven't been forced into buying smartphones yet. That's why Microsoft doesn't have nearly the clout it holds in the PC industry - most people don't need a smart phone. A simple Nokia or Sony Ericsson does the job for most people.

With the release of the iPhone, Apple is literally changing the industry. The difference is like moving from text based input system (like DOS) to a graphical user interface. But this time around consumers are more wary of simply accepting Microsoft's answer, and so the Windows lock-in that the PC industry takes for granted doesn't apply.

Consumer electronics are already too complicated and consumers know it. Post-PC devices need to be tightly integrated, and at the moment, the only company that does this, and does it well is Apple.


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lol @ u:

i have never seen a more biased reporting im my life

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Geekboy:

It's called a blog, numbnuts.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

wkeving:

truth, and a well reasoned opinion that differs from your own, does not equal bias

but I guess it's easier to throw accusation without substance or any supporting evidence than to open your mind and consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you were wrong

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jrbrewin:

"so the Windows lock-in that the PC industry takes for granted doesn't apply. "

in this instance, you get an apple lock in instead. how is that any better - other than you and steve jobs say it is?

i don't want anyone's hands in my pocket, not bill's, not steve's - so please don't pretend one is better than the other.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tony:

It would appear that Apple are on the ascendency. What is really telling is that Windows is losing ground with developers.

Also, businesses are fed up with the closed nature of Windows and are increasingly demanding open standards. While Microsoft is attempting to create its own open standards it is also, yet again, trying to take everything for itself.

This time it wants the Internet all to itself, as evidenced by PNRP, HD photo etc which it has introduced in Vista. Businesses though won't like PNRP one bit - not least of which due to security issues.

So, hooray to Apple for bringing ActiveX-free Safari to Windows. It should be a lot faster than Firefox which I'm using now. Now if only the Firefox Add-ons would work with Safari!



29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

lantz:

Apple brought Safari to Windows for one thing, the iPhone. This will help the Windows developers with iPhone support. Everything else will just fall in place as its marketshare increases. It's amazing how Safari in beta on Windows happens to be the most CSS compliant browser. Read about the Acid Test at Wikipedia.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

LOL INTERNETS!!!:

"It still takes far too many clicks to do the simplest thing like sending an SMS."

The primary critisism of the iphone from this very website has been the complication and number of clicks required to make a simple phone call. Chalk and cheese indeed.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

pierre:

Not at all. Just leave the phone on your Favorites. When you turn it on, wipe the slider and here is the list again: just one tap and you're calling your buddy. I have never used a phone that was so speedy and easy. No need to remember any quick-dial number. You can add/remove/rearrange your Favorites in no time. Try to do that with any smartphone...

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Geek:

you can do all the same with Windows
Favorites, one click call and so on.


29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tin:

I thought with the iPhone released we'd see less drivel from Danny G on APC's site.

Mac users always seem to have this need to re-assure themselves that they haven't bought an overpriced piece of junk.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

danieleran:

Windows Enthusiasts are now realizing that it's their turn to reassure themselves that their Windows Mobile phone isn't a joke, that the Xbox isn't a hardware disaster with a 30% failure rate, and that Vista isn't a huge disappointment.

Meanwhile, Apple is delivering the iPhone to a majority of iPod users while also delivering the next generation of Mac OS X--after the current version from well over two years ago continues to embarrass Vista.




29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymac:

feel no fear for us : i'm using macintoch for over 15 years and one thing that never came in doubt is its usefullness . (It was a family computer)

And today, i do know advanced my system is, and how i'm conforted in the choice !

Let me turn you the question back .

Do you need to re-assure yourself about one's hypothetic piece of junk ?

feel free about it !

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous2:

"Mac users always seem to have this need to re-assure themselves that they haven't bought an overpriced piece of junk."

Thank goodness that when we purchase our PCs we don't have to wonder about anything, huh? You KNOW you bought an overpriced piece of JUNK! YAY! oh, wait a second... crap.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

u752181:

The usual biased opinion piece by Danny.

Danny, label it opinion and you can say what you like. Put in on the news page and we expect professional journalism. This doesn't come close.

We get it. Really we do. You like Apple and don't like Microsoft. I'm happy for you but that doesn't make this news, let alone accurate or fact based. It is your opinion and I respect that but don't call it news.




29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Richard:

For crying out loud, this is an opinion piece! The author is under no journalistic requirement to be fair. This isn't straight news reporting, it's an editorial.

The only requirement of an opinion piece is to have a few facts to buttress your arguments, even if those same facts can be used by another editorialist to reach a radically different conclusion. (Although Bill O'Reilly almost never uses facts to support his conclusions, but that's a post for another forum).

So this isn't the place where you accuse the author of being biased and unfair. This is the place where you make counter arguments, and bring up facts or interpretations that he might have missed.

In other words, you present your opinions, so that readers can judge, based on the strength of your arguments.

Oh. And you don't have to be unbiased. Just persuasive.

Sheesh!

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

Yeah, Windows Mobile is a disgrace. But I can still do what I want, on what I bought. I can write my own software, use emulators and play games.

With Apple you just get what your given. The 'iPhone' doesn't even edit Word or Excel files. I don't really like being treated like a baby and just because Apple doesn't include vital features in their products does not mean that they are revolutionising the industry!

Apple just markets all this garbage in your face, and the advertising price premium is handed over to you, suckers!

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Geekboy:

You have to remember that the iPhone is only the very first version. It's not quite perfect, but it's a lot more capable than the first generation of Windows Mobile phones. I'm also willing to bet that Apple will upgrade the OS at some point in the not-so-distant future.

Incidentally, I don't own an iPhone or even an iPod, but I have been impressed by the generally positive reviews of the iPhone.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dechah:

You also just described the Microsoft Zune

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Gaius Julius Caesar Germanicus:

You see, the Zune didn't sell over half a million units the first day it went on sale.

I'm not even sure it's sold a half a million units by NOW.

I love the way you 'Softies keep trying to compare Apple's to Lemons.



29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jrbrewin:

zune has sold well over a million zunes by now. If you'd check out news other than what steve jobs feeds you, you'd know that before making such an illinformed comment.

and the comparison to zune was that people are very quick to say that product x may be poor today, but not tomorrow after revisions and updates, but don't heed their own words for microsoft products. It's a common fact that all first versions of microsoft products suck, pretty much, and zune is by no means exlcuded.

also by the same token, your comment about iphone being better than early versions of windows mobile is pointless, and can be applied to many other products. e.g. zune beats ipod gen 1... well done. the fact that it beats the latest gen ipods (excluding iphone, obviously) in terms of software is neither here nor there. People who've had the joy of using a zune, or the disatisfaction of using an ipod will tell you how nice microsoft's device actually is when compared to other hdd based jukeboxes.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

I don't get it ... how many people actually need to edit Word and Excel files on their mobile phone?!


29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

D9:

Exactly!

And how easy can that possibly be using 4cm keys while viewed on a 2" screen?!

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

veggiedude:

My thoughts exactly. Use your PC to edit Word and Excell files!! What next? You can't edit the YouTube video's??

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

techagnostic:

What most tech oriented people still cannot fathom is that computing devices are for the masses not just people with tech backgrounds.
The world is full of everyday people doing and wanting everyday activities. Technology savvy people maybe just need to get out more and understand that the world is larger than their own self-imposed microcosm. Some people like tinkering with devices but most people do not.
Some people enjoy modifying cars. Most just want to drive them and often don't even want to to drive at all but see it as a tool for geting from a to b.

Apple try design products with the average consumer in mind.
If you do like tinkering and want total control and flexibility use and contribute to Linux an open source - great, go nuts.
Microsoft often doesn't seem understand who the average consumer is.

Danny's article is a valid observation with a title to merely gather attention.







29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

Dan you have to take the big picture look at this! Don't you see just how essential all this guff is?

After eagerly paying way too much to receive Foxtel on your handset, and having come to the bitter realisation there is nothing worth watching, from the full glory of your shiny new two and a half inch screen, you need ways to justify those 24 monthly payments.

Desperate to justify your need to carry an over priced handset the size of a shoe, you need to quickly find uses for the thing!
And what better way to impress the passers-by and fellow commuters in Sydneys twice daily traffic gridlock than to update that spreadsheet that lists the contents of your shoe tree?

Who indeed needs this stuff, I-Phone, Next-G wireless broadband, things tham make your ear flash blue at second intervals all available at exorbitant pricing. Has anyone taken the four seconds to determine whether they actually need all this stuff?

The Don Addams character Maxwell Smart and that famed shoe phone are to blame, For decades now we have been seeing technology shoved where it simply doesn't belong because some manufacturer knew they could!

I-Phone what can I say but underwhelmed!

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne:

Raindog wrote:

"And what better way to impress the passers-by and fellow commuters in Sydneys twice daily traffic gridlock than to update that spreadsheet that lists the contents of your shoe tree?"

ROFL!!!!



29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Martin:

raindog

It's a little known fact that initially Apple wanted to market the iPhone as the "iBrick" but it just didn't seem to encapsulate the concept succinctly enough ...

Personally, I don't own any Apple products (I guess I'm just not "hip" enough) but seem to muddle along with my other alternatives just fine. While I don't have a problem with Apple (or it's products) per se, frankly I'm over anything with an "i" or "e" in front of it.

Go to YouTube and look for MadTV's "iRack" sketch, which cleverly juxtaposes Apple's marketing strategy with the Iraq qaugmire.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dave:

Then you need to use something like Google web based office products. It has pros and cons but I guess it will be good enough for majority of average people plus that apple can earn good money by redirecting people to say google web based tools. The only looser seems to be Microsoft because people who use say google product will not be tied to microsoft.
Maybe apple will open up API’s some days but since then I guess people will see the direction apple is showing to them which can benefit their mac business too.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

I was merely mentioning the Word and Excel editing as an example of how Apple deceives the consumer.

Having run through the iPhone announcement and launch with a fine toothed comb, I believed that word and excel was supported. But alas, it only reads the files.

Again, Apple is not revolutionising the industry by NOT including features people may find impractical. They are simply not including features for whatever reason.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John Davis:

McBanjo, why on Earth would you want to edit Word and Excel files on an iPhone?

And who uses those applications anyway?

Word used to be good - way back at version 4 or so. Word and Excel are exactly as Danny describes MS products. Throw everything in and let the user figure it out.

I'm in total agreement with Danny's article. Whether you want to believe what he writes or not, the proof is before your eyes. Gates is dreaming. MS is dead.

John Davis

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Spiny Norman:

You reeally sound like a Micros**t user - the true suckers who are still paying through the nose for 3rd rate software from a company whose boss could erase all world hunger tomorrow.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

James:

Apple doesn't let me build my own box, "write my own software", or just do whatever I want. Well in the case of the iPhone there's several reasons for that:

1) Apple just wants it to work and that's what the vast majority of uses want too. Most people are tired devices overflowing with options that require a 100 page manual, difficult to use, and unreliable to boot. This is why Apple has been so successful, because they get it down to the core features that are used 90% of the time and makes their use simple and reliable. Nothing dumb about that.

2) The iPhone is first generation and they wanted it to work right out of the box; then add features without breaking it. More features will come when they are ready.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Atomac:

Is the iPhone a smart phone? Are Apple really pitching it against things like Windows CE. Certainly pundits are but I see the iPhone as being a high-end, well featured, consumer phone.

Realistically how can you support your arguments about Apple's marketing (a few press releases) and "over priced rubbish" (poster above)?

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

HG:

The majority of smart phone users are not going to be editing documents on cramped keyboards. That's not that smart a use of a phone.

The iPhone hits the sweet spot with converting information into action. I can convert Google map results into contacts. The whole world wide web is available to me in this elegant compact device as never before. I expect more refinement of conversion of information into action. I wouldn't be surprised to see the abililty to hear music streamed from an internet radio source and be able to buy it buy it on iTunes. That will instant gratification for music lovers and the music industry.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

roger:

Why on earth would anyone want to edit a Word or Excel file on a cellphone? And even if you could, what templates would the cellphone support? What font suites? If you deleted a page, would it repaginate? Could you delete a row in a table?

What's the point?

The problem I see with the Smartphone is that it tries to be everything to everybody when most people could care less ab out 90% of its functionality.

The Razr is a perfect example of a winner product that was supposed to fail because its feature set wasn't as rich as the competition's. In fact, the Razr project would have never been released if its development group hadn't sidestepped senior management (they though it would fail because it didn't have enough features, then killed the project) and demonstrated it to Motorola customers behind management's back. When their customers went wild, Management of course un-killed the project, then tried to take the credit, but that's another story for another time.

I'll take a simple, easy to use product that does what I want any day over the electronic version of a swiss army knife with its last-resort feature set . I don't see it as a company treating me like a baby. I see it as a talented design group trying to develop a breakthrough product, and being in product development myself, I am fascinated by Motorola's ingenuity -- and Apple's too.



29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

hurtle:

I don't understand the accusations of Apple bias with this article. What's wrong with you people? Try to step back from your hatred of all things Apple and smell the coffee.


Microsoft's dominance of the OS market represents the triumph of mediocrity - they have held back innovation for far too long with their unimaginative, bloated and buggy products.


At last, people are beginning to realise this, I honestly can't think of a current OS that isn't a vast improvement over any flavour of windows.

Any/All Linux distros, Solaris, OS X, BSD, these OSes have software engineering as a core competency and all have elements that are excellent.


Be honest, is “excellent” a word that you can use in connection with Microsoft? even amongst it’s supporters, the consensus always was that windows is “good enough”.


Well for some of us, it has never been good enough and increasingly - people are starting to realise that they don’t have to put up with this cr*p any longer.


Peace


29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tin:

Your the first person to even mention alternatives that actually aim to keep things working 100%.

The article IS biased. It's what Mac users do. They keep telling themselves how good Macs are because Windows is unstable. They neglect to notice how useless MacOS is and that there are other options than just Windows out there (you can even buy a PC without an OS! Freaky.)

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Thor:

When you make claims like "they neglect to notice how useless MacOS is" you say a heck of a lot more about your own biases than any biases of the article.

Such condescension! It couldn't possibly be that one reason so many Mac users are happy is that they are far more PRODUCTIVE on the Mac than on a Windows PC. No, they are just stupid people who don't know what's good for them.

Windows is so dominant that everyone gets exposed to it. Mac users and Linux users, in general, have made a conscious decision to not use Windows because they prefer the alternative. Windows users, in general, don't have a lot of experience using a Mac or Linux. Yet, in your twisted version of the world, it is the Mac users that are naive.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Useless?:

MacOS is useless? What brand of crack do YOU smoke? I invite you to come watch my 14,000 circulation daily newspaper publish without Windows or Linux.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Atomac:

"MacOS is useless? What brand of crack do YOU smoke?"

Love it.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Terrin:

Like your not biased. Most Mac users are a more reliable source of information over most Windows users because unlike most Windows users, most Mac users also use Windows on a fairly regular basis. Accordingly, most Mac users' views are more informed. You call the Mac OS useless. That is a pretty strong verb, considering I and millions of other Mac users find uses for the Mac OS everyday. I find uses for Windows as well, as I am forced to use it almost every day. Problem is, I just don't like it. With the Mac OS, you get a fully functioning version of Unix, command line interface and all.

The problem with Microsoft is that it says it's methods are better because it incorporates partners. However, this is only if Microsoft is controlling the underlying technology that partners are using. Microsoft rarely actually partners with a company that controls its own technology such as Google. The article is right, other then a desire to make the money that Google is earning, what does Microsoft have to offer the world of search? Nothing. Apple is not afraid to use other's technology, improve it, and often share it. As I said, the Mac OS is build on Unix.




29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tin:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Mac users seem to ignore the rest of the world, and presume anyone badmouthing their precious OS/system is a Windows user.

I'm not. I use Linux wherever possible. I love that MacOSX is BSD based. I even think MacOSX is much better than MacOS9 and older.
But I can't stand the MacOS "ways", or the way Mac users bang on like it's the best thing sinced sliced bread.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous1:

"You call the Mac OS useless. That is a pretty strong verb..."

Useless is an adjective.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MM:

I think for a long time Apple enthusiasts were accused of being "blinkered". But the commercial success of the iPod, and now the iPhone (the sale of about 1 million iPhones in 2 days sets a new record), plus market share increases for the Macintosh platform mean that something is going on out there in user land. I agree with the blog article: Apple is creating a new platform, and Bill Gates hasn't recognised that the game is changing. Microsoft could bounce back, but it has to change its strategy. As the writer says they are concentrating on too many things, and not making anything that people would line up around the block to buy. I would suggest that people put their prejudices away for just a moment and calmly look at the tech landscape. If they come back with facts to back up their argument, then good, we have a robust discussion. But merely saying Microsoft Good, Apple Bad, does not win the argument.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bender Robot:

It's so sad that all the windoze dronez out there keep screaming about how irrelevant Apple is when year after year all Monoposoft does is copy Apple, and then claim they're "innovating", and then the dronez say Apple is irrelevant and "useless". What total hypocrasy. On the contrary, it's the other way around; dronez are the ones who are busily convincing themselves that they're the ones who aren't useless and irrelevant.

When the rubber meets the road, it's Apple who is winning, who is doing the innovating and forging the path into the future. Microsoft's products are nothing more than also-rans.

Don't believe me? Go out and get a 30GB Zune, and a 30 GB iPod; try using each for a week, and then see which one works better. That is the current state of affairs in a nutshell.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Alan Sky:

I use Microsoft & Apple products since 1988.

Both Windows NT/2000 and Nextstep/OS X are outstanding products.

But on the end-user front, Apple has always been the best UI analyst and communicator.

Microsoft was the strongest on the programmability side of things until 2000.

Since then, Microsoft has completely changed its programmability model, brought an unneeded revolution for programmers and still miss the mark for Usability.

The big divide is that developers are turning away from Microsoft and embracing web/php/javascript and other free tools that Apple is using too.

And now Apple releases better tools for this open standard development community.

This would change the market within the next 5 years at least.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

fredrik sten:

what are u pc-guys wining about, concerning iphone. I mean, its by far the most elegant handheld device made yet, insde to outside, as phone and more. and yes, the software, good now, even better soon, will be updated, and easy to do too! Update a regular smartphone, or phone mmm, nahhh, not that easy as far as I know...

yes, indeed apple is redrawing the map. yes, a new platform!

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BC Kelly:

Once upon a time, about 1,000 years ago, the Kingdom used Roman Numerals to keep the bean count.

That system was 'good enough', but ...

As time went by, we discovered that OTHER system - you know, the one with the 'zero'.

And they all lived happily ever after.

Well, maybe, maybe not.

Seems we DO have to re-invent the wheel every so often.

29 February 2008, 8:45 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

I wouldn't call it the most elegant. Vertu wins hands down.... hand-stitched leather, and Rolex like build quality....not Casio.
But if you meant that they are more sophisicated in terms of software development, I'll give you the permission to have that.

18 June 2008, 9:48 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

I wouldn't call it the most elegant. Vertu wins hands down.... hand-stitched leather, and Rolex like build quality....not Casio.
But if you meant that they are more sophisicated in terms of software development, I'll give you the permission to have that.

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