The Vista taskbar: it's worse than XP's

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Dan Warne14 September 2006, 10:22 AM

It's a dark day for taskbar tweakers (you know who you are). Microsoft has actuallycutVista's taskbar functionality from what was in XP, ignoring years of calls for improvement.


Warning: if nitpicking, ranting blog posts that focus in on the minutiae of user interface annoy you, stop reading now.

It's a dark day for taskbar tweakers (you know who you are). Microsoft has cut Vista's taskbar functionality from what was in XP. Yep, that's right, they've gone backwards, not forwards.

Although it wasn't a widely known feature, in XP, it was possible to drag a toolbar off the taskbar (provided all applications were minimised). The toolbar would then become a floating, resizable toolbar window. You could then drag that window to any side of the screen and it would dock as a stand-alone toolbar, away from the main taskbar.

The regular Windows taskbar:

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The quicklaunch bar dragged off the main taskbar:

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The quicklaunch bar docked at the left side of the screen. Nice. Many possible configurations to suit your most hedonistic taskbar fantasies. Freedom is power. Power to the taskbar, etc.

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Right-clicking on the docked toolbar provided useful options, such as always on-top, and the ability to view icons at a large size rather than the regular small size.

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Personally, I liked the ability to dock a toolbar with commonly accessed folders to another edge of the screen, and approximate the OS X Dock by having quick-launch with large icons at the bottom of the screen, with the regular Windows taskbar at the top of the screen.

Now I'm running Vista RC1 full time, I've lost the capability. It's now a one-size fits all taskbar. Yes, you can drag the whole lumpin' thing to another side of the screen, but let's face it, it doesn't work when dragged to the left or right side of the screen, which gives you the choice of top or bottom. Woop-ti-doo.

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Sadly, Microsoft confirms it has cut the ability to drag toolbars off the taskbar in Vista because it was too confusing for users.

The user experience has undergone a great deal of user testing as we developed Windows Vista - far more testing than any previous version of Windows. We received feedback from customers indicating that after accidentally dragging a toolbar off the taskbar, they were not be able to get the toolbar back to their desired configuration. As a result, we removed this functionality and integrated desktop search throughout the operating system, most prominently featured in the Start Menu. For users wanting to launch something quickly, all they need to do is to press the Windows or "Start" button, start typing and Windows Vista can find any file, folder or program instantly.

In my opinion, the "desktop search" argument is a bit fatuous. The PR spokesperson should have just stopped after the bit about noobs finding it confusing when they accidentally dragged the toolbar off.

It's frustratingly typical of Microsoft. Rather than fixing the flawed interface, they simply dropped the feature. I guess we should be grateful they didn't introduce a multi-paned wizard, complete with dancing paperclip or talking dog.

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Rather than cutting the functionality altogether, Microsoft could have simply made undocking a toolbar a more deliberate action (e.g. via a context menu) rather than a drag-and-drop thing, so that Flora Average didn't do it accidentally with her less-than-stellar hand-mouse coordination while trying to open Microsoft Word.

Returning to the argument that desktop search is a complete replacement, I can attest to the fact that desktop search is far from "instant" in Vista release candidate 1. I'm running RC1 it on a very grunty Dell PC with a dual-core Pentium-D and 2GB of RAM.

It takes several seconds to start returning results, unlike Windows Desktop Search on XP. Sure, it may improve in the release-to-manufacturing (RTM) version of Vista, but it also may not.

Frankly, desktop search is no replacement for an onscreen toolbar with commonly accessed folders and network locations, accessible via one-click. The nearest thing that can be done with the Vista toolbar is a pop-up list of folders as part of the main taskbar.

And one final parting shot: why is it that in this next-generation version of Windows it's still not possible to reorder opened programs on the taskbar by dragging and dropping the buttons?Windows users have been calling for this for years. Microsoft has been able to add a glossy look and feel and replace the start button with a glowing Vista orb, but still no freaking drag and drop reordering of opened programs.

Yes, I know I'm ranting, and I should probably go home and have a glass of milk and have a lie down, but then again, many of us will probably spend more time with the Vista taskbar than our loved ones for the next five years [to paraphrase Microsoft's marketing materials below], so at the very least, Microsoft could sex it up a bit.

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Martin:

Completely agree. It really bugged me that Microsoft decided to remove this feature that I relied upon! I like a minimalist desktop and I used to dock the desktop at the top of the screen and then switch off the desktop icon display. Very nice and empty.

I have, however, found a way to fake this up. If you create a folder on the desktop, you can then drag it to the screen edge and it will dock as before, and it has the same set of options for display of its contents. I have then copied all my desktop shortcuts into the new folder and then switched off desktop icon display and I am pretty much back where I was.

The only pain is that I am going to have to manage this folder myself, manually keeping it in sync with the actual desktop. That could get tedious, but it is better than nothing.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

PeterN:

A variation of Martin's suggestion can be used to create a Quick Launch bar on the side (or any open screen edge) in Vista.

As Martin said, dragging a folder to the edge will create a dock with the folder as a toolbar. Now right click on the folder toolbar and you can add additional toolbars, including Quick Launch. The dock is now shared between the folder toolbar and the Quick Launch toolbar. Now right click on the folder toolbar and choose close toolbar. This leaves the Quick Launch toolbar in place, by itself, docked on the side, where we wanted it.

Not as intuitive as dragging Quick Launch off the task bar, but it works.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ToolbarJunkie:

I thought all hope was lost, until I found the comments. Thanks guys.

So, I've toyed around with it a bit more, and found that all you guys need to do is drag the correct folder to the edge.

To get the Quicklaunch folder up on the screen (so you can navigate back a directory to actually SEE the Quicklaunch folder): unlock the taskbar, right-click on the little quicklaunch divider thingy, and hit Open Folder.

You can do this for the Desktop folder by simply exploring to your User folder, like c:\Users\username\ then you shall see the desktop folder to drag over.

Hope that helps. Glad to know not ALL hope is lost, and I found the blog to be comical, as well as the reason they took the method of the feature out (based on what we've learned here now, they didn't really take the whole feature out). Thank you guys for helping me get onto this.

29 February 2008, 8:38 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William H Gotes:

Thanks, this tip helped out a lot!!! I am pretty sure I have been doing the dockable toolbar thing since Windows 98 (maybe even Win 95 + IE4 and Active Desktop? I forget the exact history now).

This is relatively consistent with the way I used the toolbars in the past in that I would create a folder, fill it with shortcuts and create a toolbar by linking to that. Earlier iterations of Windows had a way of 'losing' the custom toolbar requiring creation of it again and again, having a folder with all the shortcusts made that easy to do.

29 February 2008, 8:39 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Brian:

Wow... i was freaking out until i looked at the comments as well, good to know that you can still do this.. there is an annoying outline on the toolbar

also is there a way to lock it like the taskbar?

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Beth:

For toolbar purposes, you don't have to create your own "desktop folder" manually. Just right-click on Vista's main TASKBAR and choose toolbars, then click to put a check mark in front of "Desktop." This approach anchors the desktop toolbar to the taskbar at the bottom of your screen, which may not be what you want -- but at least you don't have to maintain its contents manually.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Don Dell:

of course, this shows the ie7 icon regardless of whether the current user is displaying it on her desktop. maybe it's in "all users\desktop" .. what? access denied?! can't change permissions?!! uh oh.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

kelly:

Yes, Microsoft has broken the Quick Launch.

But there should be a simple on/off for this restriction in the windows registry right?


29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

SirShaggy:

For all the times I have been asked if I could replace Vista with something that is half way decent.....I'd be rich! Is there a switch for Vista? One that makes it just go away? We'd all be better off with Windows 3.0 over Vista. We gained nothing but headaches. Try moving private customer data from office to office, computer to computer and you will see what I mean. It is a scam, buy it and you will pay the price. Vista hurts us all in the long run. This is painfully the end of Microsoft for me. Even with the troubles in XP it was far better and more stable. Do your homework before buying anything Microsoft sells from now on!!!

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

john von ahlen:

Long story short - VISTA SUCKS. I used to able to include all my common tasks on the explorer task bar, such as COPY TO, MOVE TO, REFRESH, VIEWS etc...and now? All gone...And what about the sloppy "COPYING" interface? Previously you could see which items were being copied, and now you havent got a clue. Plus it takes WAYYYY longer than before..SHAME ON YOU MICROSOFT! I now tell all my friends to stay away from Vista like the plague. I even have thoughts about crossing over to the dark side (Macintosh)...

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jon:

Couldn't agree more -- my next machine is a MacBook PRO (with parallels - I still have clients who will always use Windows). I'm advising all my clients to stay away from Vista (you can still order machines w/XP thru the end of this year and purchase XP stand-alone thru the end of next year) and have already moved several people off this piece of junk. If Microsoft didn't have their monopoly power, Vista would just quietly disappear.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halsey (New user):

Amen, brother. I remember going from some version of this stuff to the next that they removed the office toolbar and forced us to use the xp toolbar. Now thats gone. We're going backwards as fast as we're going forward.

26 August 2008, 7:30 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

PaulCCC (New user):

My Mothers Vista TaskBar got moved to the right screen edge and will not move back & I know how to drag & drop. I can drag it bigger to the left with double arrows but it will not move back to the bottom. Please Help as it is very unworkable on the rigt especially for my 85 year old mother who is still doing quickbook accounting for their business, email & solitare. Thankyou, Paul

27 March 2009, 1:23 AM (3 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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