TiVo 2009: Pizza, pay-per view and Picasa, but don't call it a PVR!

Alex Kidman
03 December 2008, 3:31 PM


Streaming radio, Pizza for couch potatoes and 1TB of storage coming in early 2009. But don't call it a PVR, or they'll get really angry.



TiVo's launch locally has been an interesting one, primarily due to the fact that the model Australians were able to buy around the Beijing Olympics (remember those?) was somewhat limited compared to its US counterpart. Hybrid TV, the arm of Channel 7 that distributes the TiVo locally was always a touch coy about which new features were going to be added to the TiVo platform, and when. Today at a press event they detailed some of the plans for the TiVo, as well as aggressively taking potshots at PayTV and the PVR market.

"Some 30% of Australians are mindlessly paying for (Pay-TV) channels that they do not watch." said the forthright CEO of Hybrid TV, Robbee Minicola. But don't call the TiVo just a PVR, however.  "The PVR is dying. It had its peak in 2006, and has gone downhill from there. Tivo doesn't want to be an outlier to what's actually going on. In terms of content, this means more, more more."

Minicola's vision, such as it is, focuses around the TiVo as a content platform; in one quip that only a marketing person could love, she commented that "If content is king, services are her queen".

So what can you look forward to with TiVo in 2009, should you chose to lay down the $699 current asking price? An asking price, as an aside that Minicola notes shouldn't rise despite the falling Australian dollar. Well, for a start, a touch more storage. Currently on track for a February 3rd launch should be an external 1TB hard drive for additional AV storage, although the trickiest part of this, according to what Minicola told APCMag.com, was getting the pricing sorted out; there at least the tumbling Australian dollar will have an effect on the final price.

Once you've got your 1TB of extra storage, you're presumably going to want some content to put on it. TiVo this week started trialling a Blockbuster-branded "Movie Of The Week" service, which will initially offer free movies, and later either pay-per-view or ad-sponsored ("you won't be able to skip the ads", according to Minicola, before you ask) movies. Paul Uniacke, CEO of Blockbuster noted that the first trial movie, "The Water Horse", had been accessed by around 25% of Australian TiVo users since it was made available on Monday, and was on track for around 5TB of downloads by the end of the week. He claimed that at its busiest time of the week, the combined number of people going into either Video Ezy or Blockbuster stores, were they to switch to downloading movies, even only in SD format, would "melt down Telstra, Optus and everybody else."

Movies currently come with a warning that they may be between 2GB and 5GB in size, which is a considerable margin over competing services from BigPond or Apple, although Minicola and Uniacke both noted that the message informing consumers of this was at least partly a deliberate "sticker shock" tactic to make sure consumers didn't blow through their download caps. As yet, TiVo hasn't announced any plans for cap-free downloads from any ISP provider, but when APCMag.com questioned her, she noted that "we do not want to partner with only one ISP.". There may be a marginal cost involved in getting a cap-free TiVo service from some ISPs, but no plans are yet firmly set.

The event also saw a few new product announcements and launches. On the minor side, by the end of the week TiVo users should be able to access a world clock, horoscopes, and PixelEye, a service that lets you access Photobucket and Picasa photo accounts direct from TiVo, as well as three new games; Classy Couples, Sudoku and Wild Pair. They join the existing weather service, which apparently 73% of TiVo users access at least once a week.

DMG Radio head Cath O'Connor was also on hand to announce that in "early 2009", Nova and Vega FM channels would be available on TiVo. While initially they'll be streams that can't be multi-tasked -- so you can't listen to radio and, say, check your horoscopes -- Minicola told APCMag.com that they're hopeful to be able to integrate future multi-tasking capability in this area. O'Connor also noted that they have no firm plans for what they'll do with the screen real estate offered by TiVo, given that Radio's not exactly a visual medium.

But of biggest interest to TiVo -- and probably of biggest interest to its biggest users -- is the ultimate couch potato fantasy; being able to order a Pizza from in front of the TV. TiVo in the US only recently started offering this tasty and yet potentially artery-clogging option, and Minicola announced today that they'd entered into an arrangement with Dominos Pizza to offer Pizza ordering for Australians via TiVo. While the deal was still in its infancy -- Dominos CEO Don Meij wasn't entirely sure if they'd offer full customisable pizza choices, or just initially the most popular combinations -- it's expected to be available -- once again -- in "early 2009". Can you wait for a Pizza quite that long?

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Raindog (New user):

But don't call it a PVR, or they'll get really angry.

Can I call it an over-priced PVR with added tat?


"Some 30% of Australians are mindlessly paying for (Pay-TV) channels that they do not watch."

I wonder how buying a PVR with added tat is so much different to buying a pay TV service with stuff you don't want as part of the packages.
I'm out of that 30%, I told Rupert he could have his box of re-runs back once it became obvious you were never going to be able to buy only the channels you wanted at a reasonable price. Somehow TIVO has that Foxtel ring about it, all those offers of stuff I'll never want and an ability to record stuff I don't care to see.
Besides all that and probably more important the local guy makes pizzas to die for and I'm not swapping those for substitutes on any account.

03 December 2008, 5:11 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (User):

Quoting Raindog:
Besides all that and probably more important the local guy makes pizzas to do for and I'm not swapping those for substitutes on any account.

I heard on the news yesterday that Dominos will be bedfellows with TiVo




05 December 2008, 9:35 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
I heard on the news yesterday that Dominos will be bedfellows with TiVo

Yep, you've got a TV and a telephone, if you've already got all the equipment necessary to order late nite pizza, then Tivo is hardly bringing revolution to your lounge room.

More to the point the old system gives you freedom of choice, Pizza, Chinese, Indian. Cholesterol charged cuisine of your choice.


05 December 2008, 9:46 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Duncane (New user):

I see APC's anti TiVO stance continues. Im sure it has nothing to do with being owned by the same company as foxtel ;-D

03 December 2008, 8:02 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Duncane:
I see APC's anti TiVO stance continues.

You do? How do you see this exaclty? Come on Duncane the stage is yours. You've made the accusation, now please explaint to us if you will why the Tivo is not just another piece of over-hyped home entertainment.

I'm sure APC will offer you as much space as you require, without any deletion or censorship, to politely extol the merits of TIVO.


03 December 2008, 8:16 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Duncane (New user):

I was just saying that APC seems a bit negative in this article as it does in its earlier articles. Plus the link to News corp and foxtel cant be ignored.

As for the TiVO device... its seems to be a similarly prices device to other PVR's. The drive space is a bit small, but thats off set with the ease of use and features like TiVO suggestions and a great EPG guide. I think it sounds like the new features are pretty cool to me and only add to the device.

03 December 2008, 8:29 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Alex Kidman (New user):

I think it (the link between News Corp and Foxtel) can be when the writer's a freelancer who pitched the article to APC, with absolutely zero editorial interference. Oh, and of course, the fact that APC is owned by ACP, not News Corp. But why let facts get in the way?

For what it's worth, though, I essentially agree with your second paragraph. What was it about the story you thought was negative? It's essentially just reporting what TiVo said they'd be offering...

04 December 2008, 9:49 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Duncane (New user):

Sorry I had the link wrong. ACP owns channel 9 through dont they?

As for the negativity.. its more sort of a tone. Comments like ""in one quip that only a marketing person" and "Can you wait for a Pizza quite that long?" stand out. May be not negative, but deliberately not positive... if that makes sense?


04 December 2008, 2:22 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halcon (User):

Don't waste your money on that stupid product!
Buy yourself a DVD title and enjoy the night in.
Save money if you can, and buy a nice LCD or Plasma TV, the bigger the better (tip. up to 52 inch for LCD or 60 inch for Plasma)
About the Pizza, get the phone and order yourself a very nice deal if you have the latest coupons from pizza Hut or Domino's either pick up or delivered.
Only the misinformed or the stupid people that want to waste big $$$ are the ones watching pay TV.
Free to air digital TV at least offer something to watch, but to be honest better off is to buy movies in the nearest store like target, Big W or JB Hi Fi, shop around and save.

03 December 2008, 8:23 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

franko12345 (New user):

I Like MythTV

03 December 2008, 9:55 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

$699 would buy me 2 1TB hard disks and 2 digital tuners to drop into my existing Linux box and make my own much fancier media server.
There'd probably be some spare change to pay for a network point in the loungeroom (which you'd need for teh TiVo anyway, right?). And perhaps even pay for an antenna point in the server room if I'm too lazy to DIY.

Edit: Yeah, I'm anti-TiVo too. And PVR's might have "peaked" in 2006, but TiVo really did too. You just don't hear people talking about them anymore. Unlike back then when people told stories of how their TiVo decided they were gay, etc.

04 December 2008, 10:37 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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