Top 10 reasons Windows still trumps Mac OS X Lion

Ashton Mills
31 October 2011, 6:19 AM


Ashton Mills disagrees with our story on why Mac OS X Lion is superior to Windows 7. So he responds with his top 10 reasons why Windows still makes Lion look like a kitten.



APC contributor Dan Warne wrote an excellent piece here on 10 reasons why Mac OS X Lion eats Windows for breakfast. And indeed the imagery of a big, bold lion chowing down on... something Windowsy... is an affable image. But do Dan's points tell the whole story? Lets see with 10 points that show how Windows is still ahead of Mac OS X Lion.

1. Start bar

Love it or hate it... well, actually, everyone pretty much loves it. The Start Bar is, some would say, one of the truly original innovations from Microsoft that debuted in Windows 95 and has been with us since. It's evolved in Windows 7 but the primary function remains the same: the place to launch programs through the Start menu, the Taskbar to monitor running programs, and the System Tray for informative widgets. The Mac OS X Dock combines program launcher and taskbar, but it becomes cluttered very quickly with a lot of programs, which if they're not on the Dock need to be launched from an equally cluttered Applications folder instead of easily navigated by menu as with the Start bar. Lion attempts to remedy this with the iOS-stylised Launchpad, but it's simplistic and still not as easy to use.

2. The Taskbar

The Dock is pretty and all, but the Windows 7 Taskbar can have programs pinned to it as with the Dock, whilst maintaining the ability to manage running programs, make use of Jump Lists, and see a thumbnail preview of the window of a program with Aero Peek by just hovering the mouse over its name in the bar. Programs with multiple windows will display all open windows in the preview, and any one of them can be individually closed from th preview. The Mac OS X Dock doesn't come close to this, and even though Expose allows previews, it also takes up the whole screen to do it (and when it comes to Expose, the Alt-Tab switching of Windows is quicker and less intrusive, but that's for another day).


The Windows Taskbar and Aero Preview is leaps ahead of anything on Mac OS X Lion.

3. No global menu

Oh I hate it. And I know you do too. Mac OS X's global menu (simply the Menu bar to Apple) tries to make things simpler for Fisher-price users, with a top menu that changes depending on which application is currently selected. But when you're working with a few programs, and more importantly on a decent sized monitor with a large resolution these days, having to drag the mouse to the top bar and back to access common functions is anti ease-of-use. The global menu was borne of a time before pre-emptive multitasking, when computers only ran one program at a time, but that's ancient history now and Apple hasn't moved with the times (lets not get into those old one-button mice! Thankfully gone, but I digress...)

Making the user spend more time navigating the screen instead of using the app is an impediment -- the easiest to use operating systems are those that get out of your way, not in them.

The problem is compounded if you use multiple monitors, which given how cheap they are these days is a popular option. On Mac OS X Lion programs on a second monitor still have their menus on the main screen's global menu, making for long mouse movements to use functions. Windows, by comparison, has excellent multiple monitor support.

4. Jump Lists

Jump Lists are much more than Mac OS X's Stacks, providing a recently opened files list for any app you right-click on the Taskbar, making it a huge time-saver for accessing the documents you work with on a app-by-app basis. On top of this, Jump Lists let you select a program's common functions specific to the app, for example: launching recently accessed sites, opening an independent tab, or starting private browsing mode for Firefox directly from the Firefox icon in the Taskbar. You can also optionally pin entries directly to a Jump List, and even exchange entries between Jump Lists if two programs work with the same file type. This applies to every app, dependent on the app. It's exactly the type of feature you'd expect Apple to implement, but Microsoft beat it to the punch.

Jump Lists make accessing recent files, common functions, and special tasks for a program a cinch directly from the Taskbar.

5. Windows management

Lion includes the option to resize windows from any edge, finally bringing it up to speed with Windows -- but it still falls far short of Windows' management abilities. As above, Windows 7 has excellent multi-monitor support, and you can maximise a window to any monitor with Windows 7, something Lion can't automatically do. And Aero, which drives the Windows 7 interface, has features like Aero Snap to automatically resize windows based on the edge you drag them to: so you can, for example, compare two documents side by side by dragging them to opposite ends and having them resize to fit the half the screen each automatically.

Similarly, managing running programs from the Windows Taskbar, especially with Aero Peek, is a simple point-and-click affair and while Expose and Mission Control try to make it easier for Mac OS X users, these quickly become messy when you have a lot of programs running, something the Windows Task Bar doesn't suffer thanks to program grouping. Purely from keeping a hold things when it comes to managing lots of programs in this age of multi-application multitasking, Windows wins hands down over Mac OS X Lion.

6. Homegroups

Networking is arguably not the bees knees for many home users, but Windows' Home Group feature makes it possible to share files and devices with other Windows 7 machines automatically, and even stream media. Mac OS X's AirDrop is also automatic, but doesn't allow you to browse. Homegroup still provides options to limit access, selectively share files and folders, or provide read-only access while still removing the hassle of configuring networking or sharing. It's as easy as AirDrop, but more functional. 

The key difference with Airdrop is that it can set up an ad-hoc wireless network, but connecting to wireless networks is automated with Windows anyway, as is is automatically joining the available Homegroup. The closest Mac OS X Lion has to Homegroups is Bonjour, which allows you to find shareable resources on the local network for Bonjour supported devices, but this is a shotgun approach as it covers a wide range of services and Homegroups focuses specifically on local LAN sharing.

6. Libraries

Libraries are a great way to group similar file types spread among different folders, and even different devices. For example the Music Library can contain music from your local hard drive, a connected external drive, or even on a remote machine over the network. And you can work on files in the library just as with any other folder. At any time the contents reflect the available resources (so if you remove the external drive, its contents in the Library won't show up until connected again). Further, Libraries are shared by default with your Homegroup, so your Music Library can be automatically available to PCs on the network for playing.

The closest thing Lion has to this is Smart Folders, but these operate off a search term not location and you can't, for example, create a Smart Folder drawing from multiple locations.

8. Maximise actually maximises

Contrary to common sense, the maximise button in Mac OS X doesn't maximise. Or it does. If it's a full moon, and your offering is accepted by the Great Turtlnecked One. It depends on the application, with some programs maximising, some only partially (expanding only vertically for example) or something entirely different, like iTunes which switches to miniplayer view. Mac OS X calls this 'intelligent' zooming -- but why is your OS second guessing you? After years of *cough* feedback, Apple finally changed this in Lion: but it now requires the user to hold the Option key and click. Why the extra step? Why not just do it properly? And why are apps like iTunes allowed to break with consistency? Oh, and lets not get started on the 'X' quit application button that doesn't actually quit, simply closing the window and letting it run in the background, requiring the user to forcibly close a program down from the Dock, or use the Command-Q combination (again, extra steps getting in the way of the user -- see above re: operating systems helping not hindering).

Wait, can it be? Maximise and close buttons actually do what you expect them to do? Only on Windows.

9. Price

To get Mac OS X, you need to buy a Mac, something Dan forgot to mention. Mac hardware costs considerably more than PC hardware, even from big name brands like Dell. When you add the cost of the operating system to the platform to run it, it's much more costly to go Mac OS X, a problem further exacerbated for us in here in Australia thanks to Apple's region-based price discrimination -- Federal Labor MP Ed Husic has even raised this issue more than once in Parliament. Despite Apple recently dropping the price of Apps for the App Store in Australia, we still pay more for apps, music, and Apple hardware than other regions, discrepancies that can't be explained by importing, taxes and distribution costs. If you're an Apple fan, why are you supporting what is a blatant rip off for you and fellow Australians? As the saying goes, a company will charge what the market will bear -- send a message to Apple that its products are overpriced here by not buying until the prices drop, and you won't be fleeced.

10. Games

Yes, Mac OS X has had games in the past. One, perhaps two. And now that Valve has released Steam on Mac and helped port titles across, there's a muc larger catalog to choose from (approximately 240, in point of fact, from Steam). But it's got nothing on Windows. There's over a decade of quality gaming heritage (since DirectX 1 in 1995) on Windows, and all new releases, big or small, come on Windows first and foremost. You're lucky if any of them make it to a Mac port, and even if they do it takes time.

Sure, Macs are good for work but when it comes to playing, Windows is your best option. And between work and play, which would you rather do?

I can hear the cries of 'Bootcamp!', but this requires you purchase Windows in addition to your shiny expensive Mac with Mac OS X, and you're still playing games on Windows -- and if that's the case, why not just buy a Windows PC in the first place and get everything a Mac does and more, with cash left over (thanks to Mac products being overpriced) to buy the games you want to play?

Oh, and for the record, that sign documents feature that Dan mentioned of Mac OS X by holding up a piece of paper with your signature on it to the webcam, is very cool.


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Your Average Joe (User):

10. Games ...................... is a BIGGY !
add
11. Market dominance

01 November 2011, 10:34 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Advanced Forumologist):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
11. Market dominanc


So very true! One of the main reasons Windows is so strong is human nature. The most powerful force is the force of habit. Most people do not like change and so they'll stick with Windows. I am no saying that Windows is bad. What I am saying is that the majority of people would not know because they've never tried anything else.

01 November 2011, 10:46 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jabberwolf (New user):

Force of habbit is not why Windows dominates.
Microsoft went down a path of collaboration with as many vendors as possible in hardware and software. This is why its able to run on an Apple - its no effort on Apple's part.

Windows allows collaboration of programs and people over the internet or through netwoked server applications with common protocols.

Apple and collaboration are in galaxies far far away from eachother. OSX is a simple OS, for simple people to do simple things on Islands by themselves. Their idea of collaboration is passing things back and forth. OSX users havent a clue - they never have, and still dont get it.
OSX - is a nice, expensive, shiny, fun, browser or thin client at best.

02 November 2011, 5:57 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

cliffx71 (New user):

No effort on Apples part? Are you fricking kidding me? Have you ever used a Mac? If you had you would know that your statement is absolutely false.. Do you honestly think Bootcamp was developed by Microsoft? Dumbass.

20 July 2012, 3:25 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

plutonium210 (User):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
10. Games ...................... is a BIGGY !

Playing in the XBox Universe and vise versa is also a boon




01 November 2011, 12:34 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

deusexmachina (New user):

All true but quite a number of these are simply how you interface with the OS which you get used to, I'm not sure you can say one if better than the other. With Lion you now also have the Launchpad and what you don't consider is how you interface with these functions via gestures. Very quick and easy, but it's what you know...

For price I would like you to name a multinational company that doesn't blatantly rip off it's customers in Australia. I think we are truly ripped when it comes to games etc from the likes of Sony. I can better deal with the price differences from Apple that I can from some of the others...

Oh and can you explain the price difference from Microsoft's own online store... Windows 7 Professional Upgrade US Store=199 AUS Store=399 ???

01 November 2011, 10:53 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

cliffx71 (New user):

After being a PC Tech for 22 years, I can honestly say that Windows is far inferior to the Mac OSX. Windows 7 is a great improvement over Windows XP or Vista, but still pales in comparison to OSX.

01 November 2011, 12:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DandamanV (New user):

All I want is all of the best features from Mac OSX Lion and Windows 7 to be integrated into one big, happy operating system... Like WindOSX 7 or something like that. I want Expose-like features on Windows, I want the gaming and coding capabilities of Windows on my Mac (without putting it into a virtual machine thank you very much) as well as the SUPREME battery power management of OSX. Have any of you had a 13-hour day of word-processing on a Windows laptop? That's what I want, PC and Mac nirvana.

01 November 2011, 1:18 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

plutonium210 (User):

Quoting DandamanV:
That's what I want, PC and Mac nirvana.

You've made my day ..... hee hee.

While you are at it, see if you can get houses built all using one standard bulb fitting .............. Edison Screw or Bayonet, I don't care. Why do we need both in one house? .... ;)




01 November 2011, 1:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

you know, the one thing that i have noticed that MAC doesn't do well, is handle files.

i want to copy a million files.
windows 7, hits an error, and in the background keeps copying.
OS/X, hits and error, and STOPS. heheh Just like windows XP

Good work apple. :)

01 November 2011, 4:52 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

J876 (User):

To the posters and journalists who say Windows is inferior to Mac. If it is so inferior, how come a lot of Apple users I know cannot find lion drivers for non Apple branded products? Most of the time it is a miss rather than hit affair and older mac drivers are incompatible with Lion as we found out with a well known brand of printer.

What happened to the Apple talk networking protocol that no-one else uses?

Why are Apple PCs which are now Intel x86/x64 machines (on average) more expensive than their IBM compatible PC counterparts? That's why Apple offer Lion for a song because they put the prices of the hardware up to subsidise it.

Why are their more Apple applications on the desktop form factor ported to Windows rather than the other way round?

Apple only have one or two models to choose from when they release a PC and forget about customisation. You have to buy Apple approved hardware for your PC fleet which costs considerably more.

With a Mac you have to use boot camp or virtual machine to run the many programs that are not written for Apple and pay for two software licenses.

Games, no contest.

I could go on but there is a text limit.

01 November 2011, 6:20 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Can we see an end to these silly articles, please? Most people really don't care about fanboys arguing their points.

Point 1 and 2 are confusing - aren't these talking about the same things? Also, Win95 didn't have the first taskbar - Acorn beat them by about 7 years, and it actually looks a lot like the Windows 7 one we have 20 years later!

Point 3 - Agree completely! Top menu thing made sense with older Macs since the screen res was so low (560x 384 in the Color Classic) everything needed to be full screen anyway. But now it makes no sense at all. I actually get very confused by it since I regularly have 4 or 5 different programs running on different parts of the screen. Having to check which program is active before hitting the menu is painful.

01 November 2011, 8:53 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (User):

Quoting Tin:
Can we see an end to these silly articles, please?

These types of articles will continue because it is the only way APC knows people are visiting their site. There's nothing like a Win vs Mac vs Linux, Ford vs Holden, Leauge vs AFL, Labor vs Lib discussion :)




01 November 2011, 8:57 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Advanced Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
Most people really don't care about fanboys arguing their points.


+1

02 November 2011, 6:56 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

come on guys... some like Mac OS/X-ZOMG-i-only-have-1-mouse-button, some like Windows Vista 20 million, some like running Linux... on their 90 yr old laptops....

But can't we all just... get along?

01 November 2011, 11:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jabberwolf (New user):

I don't need 10 reasons, I have one: COLLABORATION.

Windows simply collaborates with everyone and allows everyone to collaborate with it. It does try to push markets in 1 direction, but other aplpications are allowed to run regardless.

OSX - close market - horrible collaboration. Its a brainless thin client for brainless users.

Windows has the market dominance FOR A REASON!!!
Its because they took the collaborative road, for applications, and networking - thus they are the prime choice for business. Apple is a simple OS for simpletons that are on islands to themselves, that pass work product from 1 point to another.

OSX and collaboration are in galaxies far far apart from eachother. To those defending OSX - you need to stop browsing on the internet thinking that is work - it isnt.

02 November 2011, 5:51 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Advanced Forumologist):



Quoting Jabberwolf:
Its a brainless thin client for brainless users.


Quoting Jabberwolf:
Apple is a simple OS for simpletons


You are entitled to an opinion, but it says a lot about your literacy and language skills that you are unable to do so without resorting to being offensive.

As for your comment about collaboration, you may find that much work is done co-operatively, not collaboratively. There is a difference!

02 November 2011, 11:17 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jabberwolf (New user):

Oh and to the idiots that tout OSX as secure - take a look at the last 10 years of pwn2own competitions. There is a reason why government NEVER uses Apple products.

02 November 2011, 5:59 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Marek (New user):

Quoting Jabberwolf:
There is a reason why government NEVER uses Apple products.

Search for some Curiosity NASA pics on google and look what notebook brand they are using. Oh, i'm sure they installed Linux on them, right?


21 August 2012, 8:50 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Advanced Forumologist):

A recent report by the US DoJ found that iPhones are "too secure", "describing the popular smartphone platform as one of law enforcement's worst nightmares."

That should put an end to the myth that iPhones are insecure.

Here is a link to one article:
http://www.zdnet.com/doj-iphones-too-secure-a-key-moment-for-the-enterprise-7000002548/

22 August 2012, 12:33 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AtuAmu (New user):

As many have already mentioned, there should be no comparison between Apple and Microsoft. The two will always target different market segments. Most companies are using Microsoft for the networking facility, while at home many people are now turning towards Apple for their reliability and need (music, photos, movies). No disrespect for anyone, but the IMac I have is running for 4 years now without being turned off and it never crashed (will Windows do the same?). However, at work I would not be able to use Apple due to most of the softwares Windows based and Visual Basic.
I still think both of them are doing a great job despite of their "hidden" financial policies to get us pay more. C'est la vie.

02 November 2011, 6:53 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Omnius (New user):

Customizability! When you go OS X you get OS X and nothing else. Windows and Linux both let you customize and theme the UI experience to your heart's content. If you even suggest that OS X needs to be customized (how about moving the close buttons to the upper-right) you'll get lots of venom about "why don't you just go buy Windows if you don't like the way OS X looks?" Apple has always been a "my way or the highway" kind of company and I've never understood why Apple fanbois just drink the cool-aid and like it when those same users who also have a Linux machine customize it to the nth degree.

04 November 2011, 6:35 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Omnius (New user):

Customizability! When you go OS X you get OS X and nothing else. Windows and Linux both let you customize and theme the UI experience to your hearts content. If you even suggest that OS X needs to be customized (how about moving the close buttons to the upper-right) you'll get lots of venom about "why don't you just go buy Windows if you don't like the way OS X looks?" Apple has always been a "my way or the highway" kind of company and I've never understood why Apple fanbois just drink the cool-aid and like it when those same users who also have a Linux machine customize it to the nth degree.

04 November 2011, 6:54 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

petert (Advanced Forumologist):

You make the assumption that because something is important to you, then it is, or should be, important to everyone else. Sorry to burst your bubble, but not everyone cares about those levels of customisability.

04 November 2011, 7:15 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Customising the GUI may be low priority, but in my experience, ANYTHING that can't be done or seems stupid on Apple products is simply met with the response that you don't need to do it.

Windows has it's fair share of stupid too, but at least it's users don't proclaim that it's perfect (well, Steve Ballmer does, but he's an idiot anyway).

04 November 2011, 7:05 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gefres (New user):


2. Get the app 'Hyperdock'

8. Get the app 'Moom', case solved even better than windows.

9. Better things cost more money, that's a fact of life. iTunes pricing is fair, especially with apps. Music pricing is due to the music labels fault, no point blaming Apple. Besides, I doubt an extra few cents will deter people away from buying music if they're intending to purchase it in the first place.

05 November 2011, 9:08 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting gefres:
Better things cost more money, that's a fact of life.


Sure explains a lot of government spending then... $10m school classrooms are known to be 10 times more educational than $1m ones built to the same specifications. And a $200m bridge will let 10 times the traffic cross it than a $20m one built exactly the same.

Price isn't everything.

05 November 2011, 11:20 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MichaelN (User):

For me, it's not a matter of which O/S has the flashiest features or whatever. As a professional electrical / electronics engineer, NONE of the engineering tools I use are available for Mac OS. Not even one. Windows will be the only option for me, probably for many years to come...

06 November 2011, 8:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MichaelN (User):

For me, it's not a matter of which O/S has the flashiest features or whatever. As a professional electrical / electronics engineer, NONE of the engineering tools I use are available for Mac OS. Not even one. Windows will be the only option for me, probably for many years to come...

06 November 2011, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jesse Wilson (New user):

Not a bad list. A few things to add to the things Windows can do that Mac cannot:

1. Move windows to optimal positions using the keyboard.
2. Cut and paste files within Explorer.
3. View a folder tree simultaneously with large thumbnails (or whichever folder view you prefer) in a single Explorer window.
4. Use different modifier keys for OS commands and application-specific commands. In Mac, the same key command does different things in different programs.
5. Close the app when I close the window.
6. Jump to the beginning of a line when I press the Home key, end for End key, and a page up or down for Page Up or Page Down.
7. Position the Ctrl key such that the left hand can quickly switch between undo, close, refresh, new tab, cut, copy, paste, bold, save, select all.
8. Switch between windows with Alt Tab rather than simply between applications.
9. Open a folder on press of Enter key.
10. Drag files and folder from place to place with the right mouse button, let go and see options appear.
11. Zoom between different views and change thumbnail sizes with a single slider.
12. Larger borders around windows to drag and minimize/maximize/close buttons.
13. Actionable buttons in both the upper-right and upper-left of windows to minimize required mouse movements.
14. No mouse required. The entire OS can be navigated with key commands, including opening and navigating through application menus.
15. Better support by peripherals, including ergonomic keyboards. Why don't Mac users demand ergonomic keyboards?!
16. Dare I say it? More stability. Since I got my brand new Macbook Air running Lion 1.5 months ago, I've managed to crash my Mac about once a week--don't close the lid while it's attempting to empty the trash!
17. Full control of files. Drag and drop files to and from digital cameras and other peripherals without needing iTunes or iPhoto or any other barriers between files.
18. Move Open and Save dialog boxes beside the open window.
19. Exactly the same functionality in Open and Save boxes as in Windows Explorer. Mac doesn't allow renaming or moving of files while in a dialog box. Mac users can only perform one task at a time so they have to open a separate Finder window next to the Save box in order to reorganize things to prepare for the new file.
20. File extension preservation. When saving a file as "image" in Photoshop in Windows, the file automatically gets renamed to "image.jpg" which boost efficiency. And then when renaming the file, Windows automatically selects "image", excluding the file extension because it knows the user wants to leave the file extension as is.
21. Shows a task bar entry for every open window. Hides closed windows.
22. Task Manager, performance meters.
23. Outlook kicks the crap out of Mac's Mail, Address and Calendar apps.
24. Notepad strips the formatting from text, which is my primary purpose of Notepad. Text Edit does not.
25. Digsby only works for Windows and whoops iChat/Jabber (and why are there 2 names for the same program?).

After a month and a half on Lion I'm still pulling my hair out. This OS is a piece of garbage made for performing very simple tasks, and it's not even reliable. I highly recommend Mac users to switch to Windows 7, learn some tips and tricks, and see what they've been missing. I do believe iOS is the best mobile OS, but for a desktop or laptop computer, Windows 7 is the only serious choice.

22 December 2011, 2:12 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JimmyBoyFromOz (User):

Quoting Jesse Wilson:
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Jesse Wilson Not a bad list. A few things to add to the things Windows can do that Mac cannot:

1. Move windows to optimal positions using the keyboard.
2. Cut and paste files within Explorer.
3. View a folder tree simultaneously with large thumbnails (or whichever folder view you prefer) in a single Explorer window.
4. Use different modifier keys for OS commands and application-specific commands. In Mac, the same key command does different things in different programs.
5. Close the app when I close the window.
6. Jump to the beginning of a line when I press the Home key, end for End key, and a page up or down for Page Up or Page Down.
7. Position the Ctrl key such that the left hand can quickly switch between undo, close, refresh, new tab, cut, copy, paste, bold, save, select all.
8. Switch between windows with Alt Tab rather than simply between applications.
9. Open a folder on press of Enter key.
10. Drag files and folder from place to place with the right mouse button, let go and see options appear.
11. Zoom between different views and change thumbnail sizes with a single slider.
12. Larger borders around windows to drag and minimize/maximize/close buttons.
13. Actionable buttons in both the upper-right and upper-left of windows to minimize required mouse movements.
14. No mouse required. The entire OS can be navigated with key commands, including opening and navigating through application menus.
15. Better support by peripherals, including ergonomic keyboards. Why don't Mac users demand ergonomic keyboards?!
16. Dare I say it? More stability. Since I got my brand new Macbook Air running Lion 1.5 months ago, I've managed to crash my Mac about once a week--don't close the lid while it's attempting to empty the trash!
17. Full control of files. Drag and drop files to and from digital cameras and other peripherals without needing iTunes or iPhoto or any other barriers between files.
18. Move Open and Save dialog boxes beside the open window.
19. Exactly the same functionality in Open and Save boxes as in Windows Explorer. Mac doesn't allow renaming or moving of files while in a dialog box. Mac users can only perform one task at a time so they have to open a separate Finder window next to the Save box in order to reorganize things to prepare for the new file.
20. File extension preservation. When saving a file as "image" in Photoshop in Windows, the file automatically gets renamed to "image.jpg" which boost efficiency. And then when renaming the file, Windows automatically selects "image", excluding the file extension because it knows the user wants to leave the file extension as is.
21. Shows a task bar entry for every open window. Hides closed windows.
22. Task Manager, performance meters.
23. Outlook kicks the crap out of Mac's Mail, Address and Calendar apps.
24. Notepad strips the formatting from text, which is my primary purpose of Notepad. Text Edit does not.
25. Digsby only works for Windows and whoops iChat/Jabber (and why are there 2 names for the same program?).


2. Cut and paste - Cmd C then Option Cmd V in other folder (great when you want to copy to multiple locations but the last one is a move)
3. I find finder's column view with previews and cover flow view superior
4. I find more consistency in Mac then windows for keyboard commands sorry
5. Cmd Q closes app and all it's windows, what if you only want to close one window but keep app going? Simple, Cmd W (more options)
6. Any keyboard with those keys will do the same thing in MAC, on the little keyboard just add fn to the keystrokes to get the same effect.
7. Position the Cmd key so that your thumb does the work far better than our pinky PLUS you can Cmd tab between apps to copy and paste without moving the thumb. Also in terminal ctrl C terminates a process so Cmd V can copy and paste in terminal to rather than Shift Insert or whatever it is.
8. Switch between apps with Cmd Tab then within the same app switch between windows with Cmd ~ (just above the tab key) this is far more flexible.
9. Cmd O opens folders, also opens apps, also opens default documents of a particular app, e.g. click on several different files in a folder and Cmd O open those in their default app
10. OK but I generally am copying or moving and that is just using Cmd key the way you use shift in windows
11. Try Cmd J and see how many options you have with sliders
12. Borders are a waste of real estate, can someone show me how to get rid of the windows borders?
13. Menus are top left on both OS why move the mouse all the way over to the right just to maximise? HUH? On my windows computer I use "left sider"
14. Same for MAC and like windows you just need to learn how to do it.
15. All keyboards work in MAC and it has better support for peripherals???
16. No argument, Tiger and Snow Leopard are the best, the former is the faster and the latter has coloured icons in the finder and supports older SMB protocols so my NAS is still reachable!!!!
17. Works the same in MAC, the camera or whatever mounts on the desktop like a drive????
18 & 19. Not sure what this means but fully agree Windows has more options within an open dialog but fortunately this bugs me around once a year at best.
20. OSX did this first.
21. This is the workflow you have developed. For simplicity i want apps only, remember there are stacks of options and keyboard shortcuts to flit between windows in a single app.
22. Activity monitor provides far more information that task manager?????
23. Outlook is not part of windows. Outlook for MAC also kicks the crap out of mail.
24. Try "make plain text" in text edit, is this what you are looking for?
25. I use MSN Messenger for MAC to make video calls and messaging etc.

I started with CPM, moved to DOS and every flavour of windows so have huge familiarity
There are so many shortcuts and ways of doing things in a MAC that on average makes everything faster and once you get used to it, windows seems to do similar things but with more keystrokes or whatever.
Start playing with iLife, Time Machine, Automator (automate functions and set up as services that appear in the context right click menu). Automator is a killer app.



04 January 2012, 11:26 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JimmyBoyFromOz (User):

Your list shows in terms of usability Windows 7 is catching up.
But little tiny static previews as you hover over the task bar with my old eyes doesn't really compare to pressing one button that brings up mission control that shows all the different things going on in all the different workspaces in a far more readable form. If you do ten things at once with workspaces (eg video in one, email in the other, a few docs in another etc) and all those multi touch gestures to get around it.

The other article you refer to is weak IMHO.
My list of ten would apply to Snow Leopard and earlier versions and all things impossible in windows right now but this is another story :-)

04 January 2012, 11:35 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Taryn (New user):

What a waste of keystrokes; a battle of wits against an unarmed opponent. AverageJoe was right, there's no point to these discussions except to push up page hits.

11 March 2012, 6:08 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jabberwolf (New user):

1- I understand but there seems to be a standard with Windows and a built in option/standard to add things to start menu.
2-No the Author is right, read it all the way through. No really try it.
3-True but this is a 3rd party program - does not take away from his correct argument.
4- Windows has a recent items menu too. This is not the same as the Jump menu. READ !!
5- You dont use more than one montitor and dont see the use for it? What timeline do you live in?! Aparently you dont work much.
6- Macs have had automatic networking?! Macs are are as useful to networking as lead weights are to birds. Those stupid circles are useless. Macs are kinda ok if your networking with 1 computer.
6- You mean index searching? Thats not what he was talking about.
7- Libraries - for common resource and use.
8- If I close something, I dont want it minimize, I want it CLOSE. Thats not confusing its just bad use of word use. You should quit apps if youre not using them as virtual memory means you are still using computer resources to support something that you wanted GONE and arent using.
9. TRUE - as few people are running OSX on generic hardware ( Though Apple uses generic hardware, repackages it, stamps its name on it, then sells it to idiots that buy it from Apple). And its already documented that Apple has the highest markup of any hardware maker. This is how they have fewer number of sakes, but make such a net profit - idiots dont look under the covers. PS - APPLE sells you what amounts to updates every 1 to 1 1/2 years. MS has a new OS ( usually every 5 years. You're smart - do the math. I'm laughing that you use LAMP as well. Who does that? Unless you use crayon with your apps as well.
10-Yes, and this is why corporations use PCs over mac - which actually amount to toys for idiots who's best function is to act as thin clients that remote BACK to windows based servers/platforms to do real work.

12 March 2012, 1:15 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Taryn (New user):

Wait! Someone is wrong on the internet, I have to fix it.

12 March 2012, 3:59 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Taryn (New user):

Can't believe I let myself get roped in by illiterate fanbois.

12 March 2012, 4:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DarkAngel (New user):

I can see how people think what cost more should be better but it's time to look at some facts.
Mac is said to be better on security but i have found a way to just walk up to a Mac and push two buttons and i can get into any users account and hack it easily windows has no such feature and why would you buy a mac of $5000+ when you can probably get a computer with windows on it for about $500+ and still have the same exact hardware in it.
PS: also stop calling Windows a PC and Mac a Mac there both PCs just different operating systems get that through your heads. It the equivalent of calling someone of a different race something else when we are all humans.

20 July 2012, 9:25 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

cliffx71 (New user):

Quoting DarkAngel:
but i have found a way to just walk up to a Mac and push two buttons and i can get into any users account and hack it easily windows

What are the two buttons?? By the way, Your comparison $5,000 to $500 is ridiculous. You are obviously ANOTHER person that can't afford a Mac so you reduce yourself to insulting Mac hardware. Don't feel bad, I did the same thing when I was broke.



20 July 2012, 11:12 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DarkAngel (New user):

I can see how people think what cost more should be better but it's time to look at some facts.
Mac is said to be better on security but i have found a way to just walk up to a Mac and push two buttons and i can get into any users account and hack it easily windows has no such feature and why would you buy a mac of $5000+ when you can probably get a computer with windows on it for about $500+ and still have the same exact hardware in it.
PS: also stop calling Windows a PC and Mac a Mac there both PCs just different operating systems get that through your heads. It the equivalent of calling someone of a different race something else when we are all humans.

20 July 2012, 9:27 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

peter891 (New user):

You forgot to compare the stupid built in Safari with Internet Explorer. Safari is buggy and sometimes fails to display web pages, such as Google docs and some other. IE is the most common browser and is supported by all web applications.

24 July 2012, 8:12 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

aaronaranya (New user):

IE is in face the LEAST standards compliant browser in the top 5. I program web sites for a living and everyone I know, even .NET developers, acknowledge that IE has fallen way behind and is a royal pain to support for web applications.

Personally I dislike Safari but is more personal preference rather than it being a bad browser.

Use Chrome. It works great on PC and Mac (I use both regularly), is fast and stable.

18 March 2013, 8:42 AM (2 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

peter891 (New user):

You forgot to compare the stupid built in Safari with Internet Explorer. Safari is buggy and sometimes fails to display web pages, such as Google docs and some other. IE is the most common browser and is supported by all web applications.

24 July 2012, 8:12 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Marek (New user):

IE is not a browser, it does not comply to any standard, and force web developers to do 25% more work to support it. Safari uses webkit, an open-source state-of-art rendering engine used also by Chrome. Everyone using IE are just lazy-asses that can't and should not use a computer in their life.

21 August 2012, 8:44 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

peter891 (New user):

You forgot to compare the stupid built in Safari with Internet Explorer. Safari is buggy and sometimes fails to display web pages, such as Google docs and some other. IE is the most common browser and is supported by all web applications.

24 July 2012, 8:12 AM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

samturdo (New user):

Windows is for newbs

14 August 2012, 11:04 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Marek (New user):

From the point 10 it's clear you don't use your computer for professional work. Almost every shortcut, file dialog, or behaviour is *wrong* in windows and slow down quite a bit your creative/professional flow if you are a pro user. I also have a PC, i use it like a console, but i make a living on a mac and that saves me about 25% of working time.

Point to point objections:

1. The start bar is not well designed. You either use the keyboard to navigate it (down down down left down down...) or the mouse (point the folder, then move the mouse exacly 90 degrees right, then down, wrong, do it again ...). The only good thing is that new windows 7 text box where you can write the name of a program and open it. In Mac, it's called Spotlight and it has been there since 10 years. I personally user Alfred, a third party application launcher that learns my habits. To launch Photoshop it's cms+space, ph, enter. Takes half a second, and it has file search too. Never found anything like it in widows. Tried Launchy, i'm still crying.

2. Here is subjective. I usually know what i'm doing in what program. In programs where i have a lot of open things, like Chrome, i have tabs. So i'm happy with the minimal dock that does not open crazy-big thumbs if i hover there for error while i'm working. I happily close windows with the good shortcut cmd+w (not that finger-breaking alt+f4), but i suppose others can have different preferences.

3. I like global menu. If i'm working with Photoshop, i don't need the Illustrator menu, right? It just saves screen space. I admit it's difficult for windows users at first, i was one.

4. I prefer the classic open recent, i don't like duplicating functions everywhere, but it's nice you're right.

5. I manage dozens of windows, but i never did in windows so i can't tell.

8. You're absolutely right on that. They try to maximise smartly, like "you probably want to max you browser height, not width", but it does not always work. there should be an alt+maximize.

21 August 2012, 8:41 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sjono10 (New user):

This is bollocks. Every point made is wrong. The actual Mac OS costs $21 whilst windows costs $200? The menu bar is so much better than on windows, the dock is easier, full screen on apps is essentially maximize, why would you want a homegroup user t prowl your computer, jump lists are aweful and mac has an appstore so when you want a simple app you know it's trusted, supported and your not getting annoying toolbars or maleware. Mac's don't need virus protection and you can have fun right out of the box. PC's need to download tones of things. nothing comes by default. Use a mac the same as a PC and then you'll know. and I'm a very intuitive computer owning a mac and a pc and use both on a daily bases. Mac is better. Only thing that lets it down is games, but WINE? Virtualbox? Bootcamp? No one one here uses a mac daily like me, who ALSO USES A PC DAILY. I'm no fanboy of apple but PC's suck

23 February 2013, 3:56 AM (3 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting sjono10:
The actual Mac OS costs $21 whilst windows costs $200?

Windows price varies a lot. $200 is roughly the price of an OEM Home licence.
$21 is the price of an UPGRADE version of OSX. They don't sell full licenses, which means you have to spend hundreds extra on the hardware.

Quoting sjono10:
Mac's don't need virus protection


Wrong. There is malware for MacOSX. This is only going to increase as idiots like you spread this misinformation.


Also, here's some notes:
* PC stands for Personal Computer. Macs are this (in fact, they used to use a CPU architecture called "PowerPC").
* Some punctuation and proof-reading wouldn't hurt you.
* The article you replied to is 18 months old - OSX "Mountain Lion" and Windows 8 have both come out since this article.

23 February 2013, 2:50 PM (3 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BFB (New user):

"...To get Mac OS X, you need to buy a Mac, something Dan forgot to mention. Mac hardware costs considerably more than PC hardware, even from big name brands like Dell. When you add the cost of the operating system to the platform to run it, it's much more costly to go Mac OS X..."

Rubbish, bollocks and piffle.
Since when has Dell EVER been a 'big brand name'? Dell, like Gateway, has always been a BUDGET brand - and except for a few of their monitors, their gear is cheap, flimsy and cruddy.

This argument is as spurious as saying a Holden Barina is the same as a Volkswagen Golf - and better because it's cheaper. They're not comparable and only those with dodgy agendas would dare to do so.

To buy a similarly spec'd PC, with the same level of quality parts as a Mac, (not to mention the great pre-installed software) you'll generally pay more than you would for a Mac. And when you get your PC, you'll have more clicks/steps to do the same job in almost every instance, and you'll be battling spyware, malware and viruses every step of the way and you'll have an OS that simply gets in your way as often as possible. That sounds like fun.

06 March 2013, 1:18 PM (2 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BFB (New user):

"...To get Mac OS X, you need to buy a Mac, something Dan forgot to mention. Mac hardware costs considerably more than PC hardware, even from big name brands like Dell. When you add the cost of the operating system to the platform to run it, it's much more costly to go Mac OS X..."

Rubbish, bollocks and piffle.
Since when has Dell EVER been a 'big brand name'? Dell, like Gateway, has always been a BUDGET brand - and except for a few of their monitors, their gear is cheap, flimsy and cruddy.

This argument is as spurious as saying a Holden Barina is the same as a Volkswagen Golf - and better because it's cheaper. They're not comparable and only those with dodgy agendas would dare to do so.

To buy a similarly spec'd PC, with the same level of quality parts as a Mac, (not to mention the great pre-installed software) you'll generally pay more than you would for a Mac. And when you get your PC, you'll have more clicks/steps to do the same job in almost every instance, and you'll be battling spyware, malware and viruses every step of the way and you'll have an OS that simply gets in your way as often as possible. That sounds like fun.

06 March 2013, 1:44 PM (2 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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