Top 10 reasons to hate the iPhone 3G

Dan Warne25 June 2008, 10:38 AM

Is the iPhone 3G really deserving of the nickname Jesusphone?


Sure, the iPhone 3G is a groundbreaking phone. There's a lot to love about it… the amazingly easy-to-use touchscreen interface, amazing video playback, a big, bright, high contrast, high-resolution display that's the best of any smartphone on the market, and a web browser that's as good as any you'd use on a desktop computer. Not to mention Apple's new MobileMe service which will provide over the air syncing of your email, contacts, calendar, tasks and photos with your home or office computer — no plugging in required.

But there are a lot of big disappointments with the iPhone 3G too. Some of them are stubborn commercial decisions Apple has made; others look like oversights, and others are fundamental flaws in the design of the phone itself.

Think I don't know jack? Before you post an angry comment, read through the 10 points and then tell me what you think.

#1 No upgrade to the camera

The camera in the first-gen iPhone was only two megapixels with no flash. "Fair enough," I thought… "it's a first-gen product. They have to leave themselves room to move for the upgrade they'll surely put into the next-generation iPhone." No such luck. The camera in the iPhone 3G is exactly the same as the first-gen one. Still stuck at two megapixels. Still unable to cope in low-light and still no flash. Oh, and there's no video recording capability either, even though this has been found on phones for the last five years or so.

Scorecard
iPhone 3G: 2 megapixel camera, no flash, no video, no optical zoom
Other phones: up to 5 megapixel cameras, optical zoom, lens-based autofocus, flash.
Verdict: Smackdown by other phones.

#2 No Adobe Flash support

Undeniably, the iPhone has the best web browser of any phone on the market. But when you hit a web page with Adobe Flash in it, you'll just get an empty space with a 'missing plugin' icon. Apple says Flash would run too slowly on the iPhone, but in reality, it's probably more to do with Apple wanting to promote its competing web app development technology, Sproutcore.

Apple realises the 'mobile web' is at a tipping point… if it can get enough momentum behind developers coding sites specifically for the iPhone, it will help sales of the iPhone along in the long term. (That said, unlike Flash, Sproutcore is an open standard that theoretically works in any web browser that supports Javascript, so it could be widely supported by all handset makers if their phone web browsers got better.)

For a laugh, check out Steve Jobs demonstrating the web browser on the iPhone. When he views The New York Times, up pops the 'missing flash' icon.

Scorecard:
iPhone: no Adobe Flash support
Other smartphones: Flash Lite support, or full Flash support on Windows Mobile.(Admittedly Flash support on other phones isn't great either, but then, they're not running a full computer operating system like the iPhone is, where it would be trivially easy to port Flash across to run on it.)
Verdict: Other phones win by a narrow margin.

#3 No instant messaging

Despite the fact that the iPhone comes with unlimited data plans (in the US at least; Australian plans haven't yet been revealed) Apple has hobbled the iPhone's ability to do instant messaging.

Rather than sending instant messages over the internet to friends, the iPhone sends them by SMS. Since Apple has great instant messaging software for Mac called iChat, this is undoubtedly a concession to phone companies. SMS is widely considered to be the most expensive data service in the world, with each message only 165 characters long but charged by phone companies at around 20c per message. Multiplied out, that equates to 1.3 million dollars per gigabyte of SMSes. (By comparison, Aussie mobile network Three offers 1GB of high speed internet usage for $15.)

Oh yeah, and forget about chatting to someone who's sitting at a computer using the iPhone. Heaven forbid you might want to chat to someone using MSN/Windows Live Chat, Google Talk, AIM, ICQ, Facebook or any of the other popular chat protocols.

Hopefully, this ludicrous situation will be plugged by third-party application developers who will develop internet-based chat clients for iPhone. However, Apple has said that it will not allow applications to run in the background on the iPhone; instead, the developers must run an internet-based service, send a message to Apple servers, which will then send a message to the iPhone to alert the user to open the app. Yes, it may save battery life on the iPhone, but no, it's not exactly convenient.

On a Blackberry, the Blackberry Messenger just sits quietly in the background. If your phone is on, so is Blackberry Messenger. It's 100% reliable. It doesn't send messages using a stupid method like SMS. It uses the Blackberry's unlimited internet access. And yes, Blackberries do have good battery life.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: SMS is the only way to instant message people.
Other smartphones: A large variety of instant messaging software that can send messages using the internet capability of the phone.
Verdict: iPhone is shamed by other phones.

#4 Totally impractical for international travel

The iPhone downloads full emails, attachments and all, when you view them on the iPhone. If someone sends you an email with several megabytes of photos attached, that's how much data has to be downloaded by the iPhone. That's fine if you're in your home country and have an unlimited data plan. But go to another country and see how much it costs you — you can expect to pay up to $20 per megabyte. Your roaming charges will soon be running into hundreds of dollars.

Not to harp on about the Blackberry, but when you roam with one of them, it's quite cheap, because the Blackberry servers downscale images to perfectly fit the size of the Blackberry screen before sending them — a huge saving in data transfer charges, and messages are heavily compressed before transmission, etc. In fact, even heavy Blackberry users may be surprised to learn that they use less than 5MB of data per month.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: It's the data equivalent of the gas guzzling SUVs that GM suspended production of this week.
Other smartphones: Well, there are certainly other data guzzling phones. But Blackberry is a perfect example of a smartphone that's made for roaming.
Verdict: Blackberry wins

#5 Not compatible with Bluetooth car kits or headphones

Apple has Bluetooth wireless in the iPhone, but it only works with a handful of wireless headsets. Forget talking handsfree on Bluetooth car kits or using the iPhone with stereo Bluetooth headphones. You could expect those sorts of features from the world's leading music player, but not the iP… oh, wait.

Considering Apple wants the world to take the iPhone seriously for its phone capabilities, it's truly incredible that it has hobbled the Bluetooth audio capability so much. Could it be because it wants to make money from car equipment manufacturers who build an iPod dock connector into their car stereos?

Caveat: this comment is based on what we know about pre-release versions of the iPhone 2.0 software. It's possible Apple will have fixed this in the release version of the iPhone 3G. 

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: only works with Apple's mono Bluetooth headset and a handful of other companies' similar units. No support for Bluetooth stereo or in-car Bluetooth handsfree.
Other smartphones: many support stereo Bluetooth for streaming to headphones or a stereo, and most models work with Bluetooth car handsfree units (though there are still compatibility glitches between brands, admittedly.)
Verdict: Other phones win

#6 No cut and paste

This one is truly hard to understand. Apple brings out one of the world's most advanced smartphones in terms of user interface, and somehow forgets to put in cut and paste... probably the only smartphone on the market that doesn't have it. The mind boggles. (Also something that Apple could conceivably fix by the time the iPhone 3G is released… here's hoping.)

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: No cut and paste.
Other smartphones: Well, yeah, duh. They have cut and paste.
Verdict: Decisive victory for other phones.

#7 Non user-replaceable battery

It's a sad fact about rechargeable batteries: the first time you recharge them, their maximum capacity degrades. After a few hundred recharges, their capacity is down to something like half their original capacity. Normally, this is annoying, but manageable — you just swap the battery out for a new one, or get a second battery and swap between the two of them until the first battery is toast.

Not so with the iPhone. Its battery is sealed up tightly inside the nearly-impossible-to-pry-open casing (believe me, I've taken the back off an iPhone and that sucker is not meant to come apart… Apple must be replacing the casing of iPhones it services). Apple will then install the battery for you (in the US it costs $US85.95) and post it back to you. Oh, and you can pay them extra $US30 for the privilege of renting another phone from them to use in the meantime.

Not only is this massively inconvenient, it's a cunning attempt by Apple to get people to simply buy a new iPhone when the battery finally dies. People will be asking themselves… "do I pay $105.95 to get my old iPhone battery fixed, or do I pay $199.00 to buy the latest and greatest model of iPhone?" I know which one I'd pick, and I bet that's central to Apple's business plan.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: Battery sealed inside the case. Costs a hundred bucks and considerable inconvenience to get it replaced.
Other smartphones: Well, yeah, duh. You just unplug the battery and put a new one in.
Verdict: Crushing loss to Apple.

#8 No MMS

So you've snapped a nice photo on your iPhone and you want to send it to a friend? You'd better hope they have email on their phone, because that's the only way you're going to be able to send it to them with the iPhone. For some reason, despite its ridiculous decision to force all instant messaging through SMS, Apple has totally left out MMS (picture/video SMSes) from the iPhone.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: No MMS support. You will send your photos using the Apple-authorised method, by email.
Other smartphones: Well, yeah, duh. They have MMS.
Verdict: Own-goal by Apple.

#9 No turn-by-turn navigation

Despite building a GPS satellite navigation receiver into the iPhone, Apple has stopped short of offering voiced, turn-by-turn navigation into the device. Yes, you can plot directions from your current position to somewhere else, and you can watch yourself as a little dot on the map, but have you ever tried doing that in a car? I have … on my Blackberry. I nearly crashed.

If you're thinking I'm being a bit overly critical (isn't it a "nice to have" feature than a necessity?) compare Apple to Nokia, which has been offering voiced, 3D, turn-by-turn navigation on its phones for a couple of years now. Having a Nokia N78 saved my bacon recently when I realised I was totally lost and didn't have a street directory with me. I also had a Blackberry with me that has 2D map routing similar to what's on the Blackberry, and it sucked, because it was like reading a map constantly while driving.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: No voiced, 3D turn-by-turn navigation.
Other smartphones: OK, so it's not a standard feature on all phones. But Nokia, which has over 50% market share in Australia, has been shipping it with its phones for the last couple of years.
Verdict: Nokia wins.

#10 Stunning hypocrisy

At Apple's last presentation on the iPhone (March 6th 2008), Apple marketing chief Phil Schiller ridiculed market leader Blackberry for the complexity of its push email service, pointing out that your messages have to pass through a RIM messaging server and a network operations centre before they're sent out to your phone. Plus you have to pay extra for the service.

With the iPhone 3G, Apple introduces MobileMe, a service that … passes your email through an Apple messaging server before it is sent through to your phone. And it costs $AUD119 per year extra. Spot any similarity with the Blackberry business model?

It seems stunningly hypocritical for Apple's to criticise the technology of the market leader in the US smartphone space, then adopt the same technologies in its own product. On the other hand, I'm glad it has… but I'm flabbergasted at Apple's audacity in working on a service while at the very same moment criticising others for doing it.

Scorecard:
iPhone 3G: made by a company dominated by self-serving hypocrites.
Other smartphones: let's be honest... made by companies dominated by self-serving hypocrites.
Verdict: A
pple is on even footing with other handset makers. Welcome to the industry!


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Wazza (User):

The battery thing alone is enough to put me off this and any other i- product. I have no idea how long I'd need to be without my phone whilst getting a new battery - but seeing as I don't have a land line it would be pretty annoying. It would also be frustraing to have to revert back to my Nokia which will have been sitting in a drawer full of dust

If you're right about the Bluetooth thing then I have to say - what are thinking of? How can they have a product not compatible with Bluetooth car kits. If they're chasing the exec. market then they won't get anywhere with this kind of carry on

25 June 2008, 11:27 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog (APC staff):

Sealing the case gives Apple more flexibility wrt the design of the phone. Plus, they offer a pretty decent service and pricing on new batteries (http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/) - hopefully something that will be reflected in Aus too. In terms of battery life, the specs look pretty competitive with everything else on the market too. I've never needed a spare battery with any of my phones - expect that's the same for most people. Also, what would you choose, a bigger phone and a replaceable battery or the opposite?

25 June 2008, 12:10 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Personally I'd go for the slightly bigger phone with a replaceable battery, simply because I hate the thought of going without my phone for a week just to do something as simple as get a new battery.

25 June 2008, 12:59 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

EMS (New user):

Dan, you can charge it every night on the power adapter with the new iPhone, this means that the battery can be charged either using a wall outlet or via USB through your PC. I also believe that there are spare adaptors and a travel kit available from the Apple Store.

In a side note, you managed to find 3 more reasons than Brian Caulfield from News.com.au (his article was in the top 10 most viewed articles on news.com.au yesterday). http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,25642,23908338-5014108,00.html

25 June 2008, 2:05 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (Frequent poster):

Batteries can't be recharged forever. They degrade and eventually stop working, at which time you have to send the iProduct (whatever it may be) back to Apple for battery replacement (or get a new iProduct)

21 March 2010, 2:23 PM (7 hours ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jayden (New user):

Dan if you've used the phone like half a year like I have - you would retract this entire article. It is awesome, and I've been installing countless free software titles (games, MMS apps, Camera enhancement apps, SMS apps etc etc) every week since November 2007. It is easily THE best phone ever made, and it's only Apple's FIRST ATTEMPT. It will only get better from here, and also force the market to lift their game.... and they'll have to.

26 June 2008, 11:02 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

djsflynn (APC staff):

Quoting Danny Gorog:
Also, what would you choose, a bigger phone and a replaceable battery or the opposite?

The slightly bigger phone with the replaceable battery. Every time.


25 June 2008, 2:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Are you serious?

When have you ever needed to change the battery in your phone? Once?.......Never? It won't start degrading for at least 2 years, and by then there'll be the 2 new iPhone models. About the timeframe when most people replace their phones anyway.

If you want backup power, you can get those battery units that plug into the bottom. Plus the iPhone has 'the' best battery in a mobile phone. It lasts at least twice as long on battery than any other phone I've used. I've never had my iPhone come even close to running out of power. I don't even know what to expect in such a situation.

If you don't want the iPhone solely because you can't replace the battery. STAY AWAY FROM IT. I don't want you ruining its brilliant design with your pointless needs. :-)

25 June 2008, 3:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

David Neiger (APC staff):

What about the environmental impact?? Throw out a working phone together with the lithium, gold and other environmental nasties they put inside these things because the battery has died!!!

It's great showing all those black balloons on television to let you know how much carbon you are generating... how about some iPhone to let you know how much e-junk you generate.

26 June 2008, 12:33 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (Frequent poster):

Quoting McBanjo:
It won't start degrading for at least 2 years, and by then there'll be the 2 new iPhone models. About the timeframe when most people replace their phones anyway


That's exactly what Apple are counting on - that people will go for the latest and greatest phone/laptop/media player/iPad rather than continue using the old one with a new battery. And it's a mindset that I honestly can't stand. I bought my phone outright, and I want it to last. I only use it for making phone calls and (rarely) sending text messages - it doesn't even have a camera. And the battery life can be measured in weeks, not days.

Quoting McBanjo:
I've never had my iPhone come even close to running out of power.


I've never had my laptop close to running out of power and it's battery life is only two hours. I just keep it plugged in to the wall most of the time when I'm using it.

In short, I am not going to buy an iPhone, or any other iProduct - not even free stuff like iTunes - unless I have to. And I've disabled QuickTime from launching on startup on my computer (QuickTime being the only Apple product I actually have - some game came up with the crazy requirement of using it) - I really can not stand it and much prefer VLC.

21 March 2010, 2:35 PM (6 hours ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Hell, I'd take a DynaTAC for size! Wait..... The DynaTAC also didn't have a replacable battery..... i think we see similarities here.... very retro Apple.....

25 June 2008, 3:21 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Danny Gorog (APC staff):

I'm sure if this was the case everybody would complain that the phone was too big etc. Design is always about making choices, and on balance, in my opinion the iPhone gets it right.

25 June 2008, 9:02 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymousewiuu2945u389 (Frequent poster):

Quoting Danny Gorog:
what would you choose, a bigger phone and a replaceable battery or the opposite?


A bigger phone with a replaceable battery. Function over form and substance over style for me.

Although there's a saying that seems to have some relevance here: 'You are not your market, the sheep are your market.' Sorry to the people who bought an iPhone because they actually crunched the numbers and decided it was actually the best possible option

21 March 2010, 2:40 PM (6 hours ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

drew2025 (New user):

Hey do you realise that it is essentially a PHONE and COMMUNICATION device? If you want something that takes great photo's - buy a camera??? I have to say that some of your point's here are good and some just seem like you are trying to find reason to pick at this product?
I've been using Nokia's my whole life and if you want something to complain about try buying the N95. That little bugger has more bugs and faults than any other phone I've ever had.

And at the end of the day just remember that this is only the second generation of a product that was only released a little while ago. It's like a mini-upgrade rather than a full blown overhaul. And if you are really really annoyed by all these faults - don't buy it. The person who would have been behind you in the line once they start selling will be thankful.


25 June 2008, 12:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Sure, and personally, I have a digital SLR for taking good photos. But you know what's been a huge driver of sales of mobile phones for the last decade or so... cameras built-in. People really want them for 'always-in-pocket' convenience. The fact is, the iPhone's camera is behind what the competition offers.

25 June 2008, 12:58 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Couldn't agree more about the camera thing...

Plus I suspect Apple left the lower spec camera so that they could produce it at a lower price point. The whole thing is designed to flog off cheaply and increase market share.

25 June 2008, 1:01 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

I totally disagree. Putting a high mega-pixel camera in a phone would cost next to nothing. Plus, if they were intent, they could've just put it only in the 16GB model.

It is definitely Apple saving their cards for later. Can you seriously see Apple not making iPhones into the future? Hell no! They'll be selling way into the future. But they are going to have to release something new every year or two to drive sales and combat the saturation of the market. They haven't got much to improve though. What doesn't the iPhone have?

What's pathetic is there's this new iPhone 3G. What's new? A-GPS and 3G. THAT'S IT PEOPLE! A camera wouldn't have gone astray.

25 June 2008, 3:08 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Please McB you must be on crack... I mean, saving cards? others are out there with 5 Mp.... Saving card would be at least 3.2mp....

25 June 2008, 3:23 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

3.2 MP, 5 MP. It makes no difference. They are saving their cards for later. If they're going to change it, they'd change it properly. If they only put in 3.2 MP think of the PR disaster, it's not what Apple does. They'd be trying to overtake the competition, not show how pathetic they are. Also, they'd be incurring many separate costs of implementing the new CCDs separately. I doubt the difference between the cost per unit is even accountable in product runs this large anyway.

25 June 2008, 3:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Ever heard the theory that McDonalds could cut costs by reducing the amount of lettuce on each Big Mac? By way of Value Management, you could also do the same with hardware, by down-specifiying your internal hardware with those of lesser quality.
Here's another one. EEEPC was able to gain its success as it helped Intel to 'burn off' all the unwanted celerons at a cheaper price... Now, (just theorizing) if Apple managed to find some unwanted cameras from a manufacturer at a cheaper price, what are they able to do? Cut the price...
So just believe it. Steve can't just satisfy you and you alone! He has other investors to deal with too matey.

25 June 2008, 3:52 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jonners (New user):

Is it me or is it only Apple that seems to be forgiven for releasing sub-spec'd or unreliable products because they are "first or second generation"? Is it because they got iPod so horribly wrong first and (less so) second time, but 3rd Gen onwards seemed to work? Should this excuse it?

The minute Microsoft releases a new software package and there's the slightest bug, the world turns on them. But this Beta Culture in terms of hardware seems to be okay for Apple.

Drew references the N95 and yet this empathy doesn't seem to extend to the Nokia? Admittedly not a perfect device at launch, but it was Nokia's true first multimedia computer - very much "Gen I" and still out-specs iPhone in a number of ways 18 months on. Nokia's Software Updater app regularly fixes bugs and adds new functionality, and the N95 8GB (essentially a Gen II N95) was a true leap forward.

Am neither a Mac nor Nokia (nor MSFT!) fanboy - just interests me how this tolerance for product development during lifecylce (not before launch) seems unique to the Big A.

26 June 2008, 5:12 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tsunami Australia (New user):

I agree with Drew2025, I had an N95 for just 24hrs before wanting to peg it. The wife stole it off me rather quickly. I end up with an iPhone some two days later. Whilst I've had a couple of teething issues with software corruption at the start, it goes well now.

I've found if I use it as a phone/comms device and email, the battery lasts for long enough, as an iPod, the battery lasts forever. But as soon as you play graphical games on it for a whilst the battery drains like mad. Gee, come to think of it, so did the batteries in the LG TU500 and Nokia 6120 I had before the iPhone.

This phone is definetely not for everyone, but since I rarely use MMS, the camera in the iPhone is not much worse than the N95, and video calling is too expensive in Aus, and I need to be able to regularly check/download email DIRECT from my exchange server for consistant updates, the iPhone works great for me. Even works well with the CK7W car kit from Nokia.

I do wish they had enabled tethering on the phone though.

18 November 2008, 12:56 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Hmmm. I was keen to get one. Not so keen now.
Lack of IM and inability to run 3rd party apps in the background kills it for me.

The other mentioned things I could either work around, or wouldn't effect me at all. But restrict what I can do in software, and suddenly it's no better than a standard Symbian or WinMob based device.

25 June 2008, 12:56 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Quoting Tin:
Lack of IM and inability to run 3rd party apps in the background kills it for me.

IM will be on the iPhone in one way or another. If you watched the Keynote, it looks like their push notification service was intended mostly for things like IM. It allows notifications, sounds and little numbers over icons to be pushed to the iPhone anytime.

I'm guessing you have little experience with Windows Mobile devices. They are a lot more functional and 3rd party apps run in the background. And it's the most ridiculous thing ever. First thing I did with my Pocket PC was install an add-on that actually 'closed' programs when I hit the 'X'.

The keynote showed it best when the rep was demonstrating M$'s fantastic solution: 'The Mobile Task Manager.' Cause I totally want to manage the apps running on my device to prevent instability.

25 June 2008, 3:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

I also have an app to kill tasks properly on my phone (actually 2 because the ROM i'm running came with a less functional one than I was used to).
But sometimes you do run multiple apps at once, and sometimes you're going to want to do that with 3rd party apps.

I often pop up the camera app on my phone while still running something else. Or switch between a web browser and a network diagnostic tool. I highly doubt Apple will be including a DNS Audit tool or a subnet calculator.

And as for IM... I use ICQ as my first preference. Then MSN. I highly doubt Apple will be aiming to get those included. They'll be aiming to push their own thing.

01 July 2008, 10:04 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

meski (New user):

I'm guessing you have little experience with Windows Mobile, if you installed an addon to actually close apps when you hit the X. If you hold the X down for 2 seconds it does actually close - and you don't need the addon taking up space!

09 July 2008, 6:18 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

The fact that there are multiple apps to do this suggests that it is either a new feature or it's an undocumented feature.
Either way, I like vBar because it also gives me a battery and storage graph, which also doubles as a menu listing all running apps.

09 July 2008, 6:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

meski (New user):

It still sounds like standard features, the . I'm wondering if you are using Windows Mobile 5 or 6 now. I don't recall if they were included with 5. But we are talking about a new-release Apple product, so it seems fairer to compare features of Windows Mobile 6 rather than 5.

11 July 2008, 3:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

I use a hacked 6, but the device I have officially only has 2003SE.

What I don't get is why you declared I have little experience with WinMob because I didn't know of a trick that isn't obvious.
Even more curious is that since my complaint about not being able to control apps that are running was about the iPhone, why would the version of WinMob even factor in?

11 July 2008, 4:56 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

meski (New user):

Not obvious... It's an icon on the main panel of the screen, top right corner (where the x would be) I suppose that isn't obvious? Re versions of Windows, that is more a reply to McBanjo's "First thing I did with my pocket PC was install an add-on that actually closed programs when I hit the X"

I didn't read the instructions (much) - so it must have been obvious, or in the introduction.

14 July 2008, 11:24 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

WVM (New user):

Have you even used an iPhone? Points 2,3,6,and 9 will be solved by third party aps. As for the camera this is a phone, but there is also a third party app for it to. As for the battery, if you have a removeable battery it take up extra space (bulk)and if you hard pressed for battery time buy a Morphie ($99 US)

As for the phones rates that is up to the phone company not Apple/iphone.

Next time you right an article don't steel US articles and pass them off as yours. Think it thur yourself and you might just right something worthy to read.
Cheers

25 June 2008, 1:05 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Quoting WVM:
Next time you right an article don't steel US articles and pass them off as yours. Think it thur yourself and you might just right something worthy to read.


Err... I'm sorry? I didn't read anyone else's article on this topic before writing this one, let alone "steel" (sic) it. Perhaps if someone else has made similar points, it's because they're obvious deficiencies in the iPhone.

As for your comment that points 2,3,6 and 9 will be solved by third party software:

1) Turn by turn navigation MIGHT be possible through a third party provider, but the Apple SDK specifically forbids access to the phone's GPS data

2) Hopefully instant messaging will be provided by third party app vendors. It all depends on how well Apple's alerts system works though, compared to an app running in the background.

3) Cut and paste being provided by a third party vendor? I doubt Apple would allow third parties to modify their core interface like that.

4) Apple has specifically said it won't allow developers to write plugins for its Safari Mobile browser, which means Flash won't be coming to the iPhone unless Apple changes its mind.

25 June 2008, 1:12 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Rick (User):

Quoting Dan Warne:
4) Apple has specifically said it won't allow developers to write plugins for its Safari Mobile browser, which means Flash won't be coming to the iPhone unless Apple changes its mind.

I cant wait until there is firefox for the iphone :P




27 June 2008, 6:06 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Quoting WVM:
Next time you WRITE an article don't STEAL US articles and pass them off as yours. Think it THROUGH yourself and you might just WRITE something worthy to read.
Cheers

Next time you make an attempt at criticizing others, please check for spelling errors, so others don't haef tu tri tu figar aout waht yu aer tring tu sae....



25 June 2008, 3:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tim Jucha (New user):

Of course they are not chasing the exec. market they are chasing the teen and early 20 market that have way to much money on their hands and nothing practical to spend it on. They also know that leaving out features like bluetooth give this market a reason to go out and spend their money on the latest accessory. Apple is clever...not stupid, although the only thing they are clever for is cashing in on stupid people

25 June 2008, 1:25 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

No, but it -has- Bluetooth. It's just that Apple has programmed in an artificial limitation so it only works with headsets.

Plus, they are very much chasing the exec market. If you watch Steve Jobs' latest keynote, it was all about what a perfect business phone the iPhone is, with its app platform and full ActiveSync Exchange support.

25 June 2008, 1:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ed Dale (New user):

On the camera - Have you used the iphone camera? It takes great photos - granted not in the dark - but it takes a lovely photo in normal conditions

On Bluetooth - you just got this one plain wrong - I have an iphone now and it works with my car system much, much, much better than my blackberry - It does not have stereo bluetooth - Have you ever used Stereo bluetooth to listen to music on a phone - it drains battery life like a mofo!!



25 June 2008, 2:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Quoting Ed Dale:
Have you ever used Stereo bluetooth to listen to music on a phone - it drains battery life like a mofo!!

Which is why you sync it in the Car, with the phone plugged into a charger....



25 June 2008, 4:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

yeahright (New user):

Who is the idiot who wrote this article? Does s/he even own an iphone? While i agree with some of the points, a lot of these items can be overcome with readily downloadable software. It must no longer be a prerequisite to actually use the equipment before bagging it these days.

25 June 2008, 2:56 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Yes I do actually own an iPhone :) And am a Mac user and a fan of Apple. I'd just like to see the products be as good as they can be.

25 June 2008, 11:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

One major thing that Dan has left out is the provision of a memory card slot. Users will very soon be deleting emails, music and videos as they run out of space...on the other hand, MicroSD cards, with capacity reaching to 16GB, it would at least allow the consumers to believe that the phone would be more futureproof...

But then, I think the phone's lifespan would be 2 years at the very most... same lifetime as the contract, and you are forced to sign up to a new contract when you want a new phone....

25 June 2008, 3:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

"That's right. Because I like to go jogging FOR 3 WEEKS AT A TIME!!! And God forbid, IF I HEAR THE SAME SONG TWICE, I'M GONNA BREAK SOMETHING!!! I also like to drag behind me MY 500 LITRE BOTTLE OF GATORADE!!!"
- Arj Barker

If you need more than 16 GB at once, you need to reorganise your life. Life before iPod.

25 June 2008, 4:09 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

McB, Get off the bloody pipe! Do you even understand what Apple is trying to create here? It is a device which can do everything from listening to music, to taking phone calls, to browsing the internet to getting directions for navigation. If you are going to do one of those well (like the ipod) you'd better have good storage.

Pfft. 16gb may be enough for those who listen to only iPod jingles watch the apple commercials.

Plus, people who are going to buy these devices are likely to be those who don't want to carry an ipod as well as an iphone. So, 32gb of storage is more than reasonable.

25 June 2008, 9:01 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Pfft. You do know people used to get by with a walkman and maybe 1 or 2 90 minute tapes, right?

I seem to get by just fine with my 1GB SD card. And that's using my current phone for pretty much everything the iPhone does. Just don't try to keep your entire CD and DVD collection on your mobile media device and you'll be set.

02 July 2008, 5:49 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

meski (New user):

Interesting point that you raise with the 1G SD cards. Many of the apps aren't all that scalable, so if you load eReader, then stuff it full of books, it takes ages to display the list. Likewise Microsoft Reader. Probably many of the other apps too. And 8G SDs are quite common now.

14 July 2008, 11:32 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Abl030 (New user):

This is just the perfect example of the apple fanboy philosophy,
"If you have a problem with an apple device, your doing it wrong. Change your lifestyle to fit the product, not the other way round."
Basically what your saying here is the iPod classic is totally useless and stupid? That every ipod since gen2 has just been a waste of time?
That anyone who fully utilities their storage space on the iPod, not because they jog for three weeks but because they would very much like to choose what to listen to when they start jogging, not when they are at their computer, is an idiot?
Well, maybe I should listen to this Steve, I must be doing it wrong.
Apple is not a religion, it is not a way of life. I will use my device how I want thank you very much, and because i feel like carrying around more than 16 gigs of music or movies at any one time does not mean I have to re-organise my life. Having more than 16 gigs of music that is completely tagged, is more a sign that maybe I'm a little to organised when it comes to my music. Not the other way round.

21 July 2008, 6:50 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Darryl (New user):

There is another solution...Fanboy or not, the choice to purchase any product is yours. If the Apple device in question doesn't work the way you want it to....Don't buy it...Duh!!!

30 July 2008, 2:53 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

agami (User):

You can have your fun with points 1-9 but point 10 has been misrepresented.
When Apple announced iPhone 2.0 enterprise integration at the March 08 SDK event (where the photo is from) they were referring to direct MS Exchange push-email support. No intermediary, no double handling. This method is unchanged and thus free of "Stunning hypocrisy".

MobileMe will give the rest of us non-enterprise users push-email functionality and the iPhone will talk directly to the MobileMe servers accessing information stored within. Again no double handling and no hypocrisy.

Whilst most current business users pay the additional monthly fee just to get RIM's Blackberry push-email, the MobileMe user is getting a lot more than just push-email for their annual $119.00.

25 June 2008, 4:18 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Good point about the Hypocrisy... however in terms of value, that is just the service subscription. The real sting comes when the service provider charges you every bit of data you download.... most 'berry plans are about $70 dollars /month and will provide unlimited data... only downside is that it is GPRS....

25 June 2008, 9:10 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

dars (New user):

i have an iphone and love it... it might not have all of that stuff but cmon is that really y u buy a phone? i have an iphone and i love it BEST PHONE IVE EVER HAD

25 June 2008, 5:15 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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