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Dan Warne10 January 2007, 1:26 AM

Don't get me wrong. I want an iPhone as badly as the next guy, but in the midst of the gushing hype-stream out there, I'd like to provide a little balance and point out that the iPhone's far from perfect.



 


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Hopefully you've read my colleague Tim Gaden's article about the top 10 things to love about the iPhone.

I agree with him completely, except for the fact that some of his points are on my list of things to hate about it.

Don't get me wrong. I want an iPhone as badly as the next guy, but in the midst of the gushing hype-stream out there, I'd like to provide a little balance and point out that the iPhone's far from perfect.

Don't believe me? Read the following top 10 flaws and then tell me if I'm wrong.

1. Slow mobile data: EDGE is 2.5G, so the top speed you can get from it is about 100Kbit/s. Also, the only Australian phone network that supports it is Telstra - everyone else will only be able to use slower-than-dialup GPRS. The iPhone would be way cooler with 1.8Mbit/s HSDPA. (See our analysis of why Apple probably used EDGE in preference to 3G in our previous iPhone report).

2. Battery life sucks: Five hours of talk/browsing/email or 16 hours of audio playback? Look, we're not saying the iPhone isn't an amazing device, but you're going to want a charger on your desk at work, one in your car, one on your bedside table...

3. Built-in battery: It must be the only mobile phone on the market that doesn't have an easily user-replaceable battery. We know from the iPod that batteries age pretty quickly, but who wants to send their phone back to Apple for servicing when it needs a new battery? I don't want to have to go back to my dowdy old Nokia while Apple swaps the battery. That's a major flaw.

4. Touch screen: Have you ever stood at a touch-screen terminal in a shop punching away at the screen, trying to get it to register your touch? Despite what Apple disparagingly called "small plastic keyboards" on other mobiles, they're way more likely to work reliably than a touch-screen. No doubt Jobs has licensed the world's best touch-screen technology, but it's still likely to be the weakest point of the phone.

5. Heavy data usage: There's a reason why networks love ‘push email' phones like the Blackberry: it's because a tremendous amount of compression and optimisation can be done at the carrier-side before the data is sent over the air. An ultra-heavy user of a Blackberry might only use 20MB in a month - regular users will use just a few megs. On the other hand, the iPhone uses old-world ‘polling' email methods - POP3 or IMAP, where the phone will check every X minutes for new email and download full emails. The phone might have enough CPU power to rescale that 7MB JPEG, but it still has to download a 7MB JPEG. Either the service fees that go with the phone are going to be huge, or carriers are going to take a bath on data pricing and risk network congestion.

6. Only a two megapixel camera: OK, camera phones are never going to beat a digital SLR, but Sony Ericsson has had a 3.2 Megapixel cameraphone out for months now. Unless S-E tied up exclusive supply on that part, it's tough to see why Apple wouldn't have gone for it.

7. Proprietary tie-ins: Look, I'm not saying that the rest of the mobile industry isn't rife with proprietary tie-ins. Every carrier installs their crap onto mobiles, they disable useful manufacturer features so that you're forced to use their less-useful and more expensive services. But shouldn't we hold Apple to a higher standard? The iPhone can do push email according to Jobs, but only for people who have a Yahoo webmail account. Bad luck if you prefer Gmail or some other mail provider.

8. No video iChat: Er, hello? Apple has an incredible base of customers out there with integrated webcams - doubtlessly more than any other PC or software maker - so what a missed opportunity!

9. Apple chooses your mobile network: Apple has announced that its exclusive sales partner in the US will be the mobile network Cingular. Presumably, that's because even though iPhone is going to be an obvious hit, there are many political battles Apple faces in breaking into the telco world: powerful alliances and rebate schemes between handset makers and networks, the networks' fears that Apple might at some point introduce iTunes purchasing over-the-air, stealing away one of their valuable revenue streams and more. The end result? In each country, the phone will probably be locked to one carrier. (Interestingly, though, in Australia, carriers are legally obliged to unlock phones free of charge at the customer's request - though that doesn't cancel other contractual obligations such as ongoing plan fees.)

10. Only 8GB storage: Ok, ok, sure, it's the biggest storage capacity of any phone on the market, probably, but 8GB is still pretty limited. Considering how good the video playback capabilities of the iPhone are, it's unfortunate that you won't actually be able to fit that much video on the device.

An addendum: Do I want one of these? You bet! Is it one of the most technologically advanced phones on the market? Absolutely. Do we live in a perfect world? Of course not. Do I wish Apple had reconsidered a few aspects of the iPhone to make it even better? Yep.

UPDATE: Jared at the DKS Weblog points out that the iPhone is also incapable of any syncing via WiFi or Bluetooth, despite having support for both. What gives? Read his post.

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Mike:

Can I get a copy of that legislation (as I've just been stung $30 to unlock my phone)?

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

john:

"(as I've just been stung $30 to unlock my phone)?"

$30 ... is that all??? I was changed $65!!!

The result - mobile phone went sailing into the bin.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

The legislation is the Trade Practices Act, the sections referring to product-tying AKA second-line forcing. From memory, about section 46?

Interestingly, it also means that computer manufacturers can't say they'll only give you spare parts if you use their repair centre (though they can void the warranty if you don't). This happens all the time though!

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous1:

They are obliged to provide an option to unlike, and are allowed to charge a reasonable amount for their costs of doing so.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Lotere (New user):

Almost all input is given through the touch screen, which understands complex gestures using multi-touch. The iPhone's interaction techniques enable the user to move the content up or down by a touch-drag motion of the finger. For example, zooming in and out of web pages and photos is done by placing two fingers on the screen and spreading them farther apart or bringing them closer together, a gesture known as "pinching". Scrolling through a long list or menu is achieved by sliding a finger over the display from bottom to top, or vice versa to go back. In either case, the list moves as if it is pasted on the outer surface of a wheel, slowly decelerating as if affected by friction. In this way, the interface simulates the physics of a real object. Other user-centered interactive effects include horizontally sliding sub-selection, the vertically sliding keyboard and bookmarks menu, and widgets that turn around to allow settings to be configured on the other side domain names. Menu bars are found at the top and bottom of the screen when necessary. Their options vary by program, but always follow a consistent style motif. In menu hierarchies, a "back" button in the top-left corner of the screen displays the name of the parent folder.

29 September 2009, 7:50 PM (1 month ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

iphone must swallow as well:

For all you guys needs.... http://www.ihatemyiphone.com

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo:

I heard the single reason for iPhone using only Cingular networks was part of a business deal. Since Cingular owned the rights to the word 'iPhone.'

I don't know why Apple would do it unless they absolutely had to.

Also I'm not sure that this device will be that much of a hit in the young peoples catergory, the ipod took off there because of style, symplicity and music. Now with all this business related stuff, it may not be considered cool anymore.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

It's not really business-related though... the only thing I can think of that's business-related is email on your phone. But I would argue that everybody uses email so much nowadays that it's totally mainstream (and cheaper than SMS too.)

Wait on... I'm meant to be playing the devil's advocate here ;-)



29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jarrod Spiga:

Actually, Cisco owned the trademark to the term "iPhone" (it was the name of a Linksys product a few years back). I know that Cisco released a statement a couple of days ago stating that they were in discussion with Apple about the use of the trademark with an agreement to be made later that day (the day the announcement was made) - which is how I first heard of the rumour of the iPhone...

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sindre Sandvik:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Motorola ROKR the Motorola phone that could sync with iTunes with Apple's blessing was also a Cingular only device (atleast initially) So this seems to stem from a previous deal or partership that has been established back then.

I would love to have one, however my primary concern is that when I have drained the battery playing music/video or other media content I still want to be able to make a call. Even so the UI seems great and I might compromise on this one.

2.5G(EDGE) vs. 3G. On my Nokia E61 I have every connection I need save an RJ45 plug to a 100Mbit net. And 3G is the second most used, right after WiFi (which supports WPA and WEP encryption)

Even so I still want one, and this seems to be what everyone is saying.

One less gadget to carry, one superb UI outweighs all my reasons not to buy one.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bryce:

When apple announced the iPhone, they said they partnered with Cingular because they support features on the phone that hardly any other companies do. Such as the on-screen voice-mail, and so that they could invent together, as to use some features, they need to be supported by both the phone and the network.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sindre Sandvik:

They said they partnered with Cingular because they supported the features needed by the iPhone, since onscreen voice mail is not to my knowledge a wide standard offered by other carriers would it not be a fair assumtion that Cingular supports this at the launch now, because they where involved in, if not directly, the creation of this device. If Apple was launching a phone and wanted specific services on the phone that no carrier provided yet they would naturally enter a partnership or make use of a partnership that already exists.

So this in my opninion is probably why 1) It's launched only on Cingular 2) Why the "rest of the world" is awaiting the lauch, because Apple needs to partner up with a Carrier who is willing to implement the services needed to get full use of the iPhone.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

William Maher:

I think the iPhone looks great. But it will be interesting to see whether software crashes/bugs become more of a problem in the future. Ie. we're now talking about running full mini-OSes (or cut-down versions at least) on these things. Annoying on your PC; potentially a nightmare if it's your phone. Look what happened with iPod and notebook batteries. I've seen a few people wondering aloud about this online.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Turbo:

Unlike Windows, Mac OS X is extremely stable.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Insectecutor:

Windows is stable, but just the same as OS X, the apps that run on it aren't necessarily as stable as the OS. However, with the iPhone third party developers are locked out until Apple consents to them making software for it, so it's safe to bet that the software produced for the phone by Apple will meet their exacting quality standards.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

"software crashes/bugs become more of a problem in the future. Ie. we're now talking about running full mini-OSes (or cut-down versions at least) on these things. Annoying on your PC; potentially a nightmare if it's your phone."
have you ever used a mac operating system? you jnow what, the beauty of mac is that nothing never crashes, freezes or anything. your talking about why we dont use PC ...This is Apple....

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anon:

do you really believe that mac OS don't crash? hell they crash just as much as Windows. put a dodgy bit of software on tiger and you can lose parts of the OS, a really excellent feature.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

redstar299:

As a mac (home) and pc (work) user for years..it is not even close how much more stable the mac is. Try this: right now I am downloading 3 2gb torrent file movies, downloading a song on a file sharing network, have my iphone hooked up syncing with with my mac, I am watching TV on my mac, have a mac version of word and excel open and 2 browsers, email, ical, address book, iphoto and itunes open and everything is running perfectly - you try that with your PC and see if it doesn't crash or freeze

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sydneyenergyco-op:

Love my MAC to bits, but they still occasionally hang, and it is not uncommon for Word to hang on it when using macros or endnote. However, usually only the process hangs and not the whole thing.
BUT Symbian hangs a lot on Nokias, and whilst it may only be 1 in 200 calls or less, I would rate it as far more annoying than a computer crashing, especially as these crashes happen just as you answer the call.

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anon:

I'm not disputing the fact that Mac OS X is a smaller and faster OS than XP or Vista, but it does have some huge programming flaws in it. the most stable OS ion my opinion is DOS, I have not yet been able to crash it.

as to the symbian OS crashing, it is quite annoying, but you can avoid crashes with 3rd party software, and you can get homebrew OS for most nokias these days.

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Evan Richardson:

I can have 25 Ie/firefox windows/tabs open at once, play a game, download 10 files off bit torrent, have trillian running 5 IM accounts, have outlook open checking my email burn a cd and defrag my hard drive all at once on my pc....with no problems or crashes...mac fanboys...you can alwys tell because they're so ignorant about everything non-apple.

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Senectus:

Can you show me where you got that info from:

(Interestingly, though, in Australia, carriers are legally obliged to unlock phones free of charge at the customer's request - though that doesn't cancel other contractual obligations such as ongoing plan fees.)



29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ken:

I'll tell; you more, here in Belgium it's just plain illegal to lock phones to any provider. I wonder what how they will going to be handling that.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nicholaus:

reaching, at best, for some semblance of decent article that presents at least somewhat rational reasons for hating the iphone. But hey, you got an article up, so cheers to that mate! And god help us all, the dire state of journalism these days....



29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

Well, we did cover the Top 10 things to love about the iPhone as well! 

If you disagree with the 10 points above, let us know why... 



29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

John Rudkin:

This is a radical convergence technology, well timed, but it'd make a lot more sense to read balanced reviews in the next weeks.
I have yet to read about the 'mobile' OSX experience (a first) and the UI. I've been playing with a Wii over Xmas and (UK anyway) the UI experience is really rather good. Actually UI, battery life, durability price and functioanlity will be the keys here. Its brilliant to see Apple chance this market (after all of the doomsayers recent comments).

I go for - wait and see. It may even be available for viewing in London today at Olympia (BETT SHOW). You COULD try checking it out.

The British Designer, Jonathan Ive's comment "Its not too shabby" will do at this stage!

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Joram Oudenaarde:

Well, I think you're missing a few valuable points there Mr. Warne ;-)

1. Not all countries and/or providers háve 3G
2. Most normal telephones only offer about 3-4 hours for talk, and most mp3-players offer abour 10-24 hours of playback. When you think about that, the iPhone doesn't do half bad right?
3. I agree with you on this one, but I have to add that I believe Apple did this because they want to make it as sleek as possible. But given, the iPhone could use a replacable battery
4. Most touch-screen terminals use cheap-o touchscreens, with normal software. You can bet that Apple knows this, and will definately make it a whole lot better. Most UMPC's even have better touchscreens compared to the touchscreen-terminals.
5. Yeah... I don't really understand that either, but i think that sending emails through GPRS/EDGE/3G will always be relatively expensive. Sending those emails through your home-ADSL while sitting on the couch, now thát would be more obvious.
6. They could make it a 3, 4 or even a 5 megapixel camera. But what would that do to the price? New products usually cost a bit more when they're released. My guess is that Apple wanted to keep it a bit low by putting in an average camera. In Europe, most cameraphones only have a 1-3 megapixel camera by the way.
7. Not sure if you're bound by Yahoo though. Yes, you need it for push-emails, but you can probably send them via other accounts as well. Apple did mention it would sync with your emailaccount on your Mac as well, and told us that normal email works as well (gmail, your provider's email and such). It's probably true that only Yahoo-mail offers the Push-option though.
8. No videochat, of course. That would sériously "up" the bandwidth. I does suprise me that Apple didn't install it, but that would mean a 2nd camera, ánd more software. And even so, Apple does need to provide itself with features to be updated/added right?
9. Perhaps, but I think this is only in the beginning. If it is becoming a succes, other providers are likely to be more then interested in joining. On top of that, in some countries this is forbidden to choose only one provider.
10. "Only" 8Gb storage? If you want to keep the iPhone small, you can't place an iPod-like HD in it. It would make it a bit heavier, more expensive, and/or bigger. Plus most people who have an iPod have a small-storage one. Meaning, most iPods sold are Mini's and Nano's.

All in all I think you have a few valid points, but most of them are written down with the US in perspective, instead of Asia and/or Europe ;-)

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

Thanks for your well thought out poslt Joram. On your last point though, I'm actually based in Australia, which is very much part of Asia Pacific :-)


29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Potoroo:

"I'm actually based in Australia"

Given APC doesn't use a .au domain or even use the word "Australian" on any page on its website other than the Contact page how on earth do you expect anyone to know who the hell you are? Anyone would think APC welcomed the confusion this causes.

Putting aside my personal disappointment with all Australian companies that don't use .au addresses, the least APC could do would be to put "Australian Personal Computer magazine" in small print under the APC logo that heads the current look and feel.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

APC administrator:

http://www.apcmag.com.au :-)

But seriously, on the web, it's much less relevant where you are. It's more relevant which audience you target and localise your information for. We definitely write articles for Australians, but we bear in mind the wider world tech community. 



29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

JayZee:

I think you just got a glimpse some of Leopard's secrets. I expect Leopard to hit the market before this iPhone does. I don't expect Apple to reveal much more about the iPhone's software before Leopard's release.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

I have a treo 650. The touchscreen works great. I don't think the touchscreen will be a problem. I love using the touchscreen.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Stephen Dowling:

The 8Gb memory is already available in Australia on a Nokia N91. So far is only see Iphone as catching up not breaking new ground.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Turbo:

Storage capacity has nothing to do with what makes this device groundbreaking. Have you seen this thing in action?

Look at these demos or watch this video of Steve Jobs unveiling it.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

NewWaveDave:

BARF. There is so much more to love about the iPhone vs. the N91. First of all it looks a hundred times better, but that's to be expected. N91 - no multi touch(in fact no touchscreen at all), no visual voice mail, no accelerameter, no download of video, and very little Mac support which is very important to me. There is more but I don't want to have to type it all in.

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Peejay:

You're incorrect about the accelerometer (and check your spelling next time) - my N91 has one. Better looking? The classic Nokia wedge shape looks much better than any photo I've seen of the iPhone, but then I don't stare longingly into my phone's screen thinking how lucky I am to have such a good looking electronic companion...

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hangon:

the phone is locked to a specific provider because the voice mail function has to be implemented on the provider side to work...

it sends , like emails, your vocal messages to your phones...not just a notification that tells that you have new messages waiting.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

This list is totally unrealistic. malarky I say!

1.) I could understand if this with the only wireless connectivity in the iPhone And what's this, 100 kbit is slow?!! To be honest, I don't really think anyone is going to use it much. Why, when you can go to the local Starbucks and suck down WiFi for free? ;)

2.) Go and talk for 5 hours straight on your regular cell phone and tell me how much of a charge you have left.

3.) Built in Batteries suck?!! Since when? My iPod has one and it's never been an issue. Why would you need to remove it? So you can loose it?

4.) You don't like the Multi Touch screen?!!! This has to be the coolest thing about it! and you think it's bad? A credit card machine is a totally antiquated technology. Absolutely no compairison. This isn't even based on the same technology. You really need to join the 21st century.

5.) And Apple could improve the speed of the cell phone network how? How is this an issue with Apple? By the way, when was the last time you where sent a 7M jepg? Looks like someone needs to learn how use compression.

6.) Please don't by a cell phone and think it's going to replace your camera. Cell phone cameras don't even come close. Everyone knows that. When was the last time you saw a cell phone with a zoom lens on it? A 3.2 MP camera on a cell phone is a consumer gimmick.

7.) Uhg! Didn't you just said push mail sucks in point 5? Realistically, you are going to turn on your iPone, tap on mail and wait a few seconds to download your mail just like Everybody else. You can still use iMAP and POP which is what most people have. Personally, I don't even think anyone is going to use the Yahoo mail if they don't already have an account. And one last thing about this point: Apple IS a proprietary system in the first place. Just like the iPod.

8.) Ok, you got me on that one. But, I'll be you'll see this on the next Rev.

9.)Yep, that one is a valid point too.

10.) OK, so you have 3 good points out of 10. ;)

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William Maher:

Because consumers are silly and don't know any better? Lots of people use them, so they must have something going for them, even with the crappy res. and no zoom. Sure, they won't replace a normal camera, but a 3.2MP model produces decent shots - they're good enough for a web site or to store on your PC. It's handy not having to lug around a second device. Longterm it's not hard to imagine camera phone quality improving.

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sydneyenergyco-op:

Can't improve the speed of the network??? Are you kidding??? They can move to 3G instead of the archaic stuff most of the US uses. Australia and Europe has had 3G for what, nearly five years!

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Daan:

This could very easily be overcome by using the software version of the old school device called: answering machine right on the iphone.

But the networks will always protest against such a feature because they will not get the revenue of clients calling their voicemail.

Biggest scam in telephone history and nobody is talking about it.

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:


Except, you know, if your phone is off or off-network at the time of the call. Voicemail is an absolute necessity for cell phones; an answering machine feature is a nice thing to have, but it's basically a luxury.

And if your carrier charges for incoming talk time, you're still going to eat roughly as many minutes receiving an answering machine message as calling your voicemail.


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Fredrik Robertsen:

...some network providers actually don't charge you for calling your voicemail. I have no idea if this possible in other countries than Norway, but it would amaze me if it wasn't. Presenting your statement as the "biggest scam in telephone history" makes me think/hope that your post only is a result of extreme boredom rather than a Mulder-like conspiracy theory. But hey, You got me involved!

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Anette:

Fredrik, why am I not surprised to find you at this website?

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Rene van den Abeelen:

The thing was only presented yesterday and won't ship for another 5 months. A 'Top 10 Things To Hate' seems pretty premature.
All I can say is that I'm completely flabbergasted with how it looks, what the device is capable of, and that I can't wait to own one.
Finally an Apple PDA!
Fan-Tas-Tic!

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

I agree that 8GB is a little lean if you want to hold a lot of video. But most fo your remarks are plainly not thought through.

Re: the proprietry tie-ins.

What a stupid statement to make about users having to use Yahoo for their push IMAP access. When Gmail decided to offer this service, it will work with the iPhone. Its not apple's fault and if you have any other push account anywhere it wil work.

Re: The touch screen

The kisok-based ones as inferior technology, if you watch the keynote, it registers his key presses excellently. I seriously doubt Apple would release a touchscreen that didn't work.

Re: Only a 2 Megapixel camera

Its a phone! Why do we feel the need to have a camera anyway, if your seriously wantiing to take more than snaps you'd have a camera regardless.

The fact is that this is where the phone should be at the moment, the revisions will update if from EDGE and improve its usability anyway. Apple have made something very useable, more than can be said for most phones out there.

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Midas360:

This is Apple's 2nd attempt of a PDA.

Let's not forget about the Apple Newton. =0}

Phone looks great!

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Adam:

"Finally an Apple PDA!"

I take it you've never heard of the Newton?

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Midas360:

This is Apple's 2nd attempt for a PDA.

Remember the Apple Newton?




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Anonymous:

Even though I agree with the 10 things to hate, I also agree with this. It IS a bit premature. But I do hope Apple is listening to feedback and will update some things.... The biggest thing out of the 10 hates that I can't believe is the non-sync issue over wifi and bluetooth. Doesn't make sense.

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Jim Simon:

you people are idiots. this thing is out 24 hours and you are finding faults already!! video ichat!! walking down the street and video ichatting!! IT'S A PHONE!!! not even that... it's a Pocket Mac.

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Ninjahedge:

This is the thing. The article lists things in hopes hat Jobs and Apple will somehow listen to the complaints made and incorporate some fixes or features into the final release of the phone.

Telling someone that they should not complain about it before it is out is not constructive. They are not bashing Apple for it, but they are warning them that these are features that might be missed AND complained about when they do release it 5 months from now.

As for downers, the things I can site are probably typical. First is interoperability. Apple combined with cell phones spells two companies that like to do things their way. (Ipod and its own interface rather than direct file storage and the cell phones where you have to pay 5/10 cents to just read a text message). They have to find some way to make this a tool and not a future revenue generator.

Second is price. It probably does cost a bundle to make this, but at $500-$600 a shot, WITH a 2 year contract (probably requiring a more-than-basic plan) is more than a little too much. It would be hard to keep that much video, system apps and other devices on there with only 8G of non-expandable space.


And this does not even go into the un-replacable battery.

Sometimes they have to concentrate more on operability than simple wow-factor. They have a possible winner here, but for $600 I would want it to be able to do my laundry too... ;)

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Anonymous:

Yep yep bunch of nit picking if you ask me!

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Ian MacLeod:

"The iPhone can do push email according to Jobs, but only for people who have a Yahoo webmail account. Bad luck if you prefer Gmail or some other mail provider."

Are you kidding?

Gmail doesn't even support IMAP let alone push-IMAP.

As far as I'm aware, Yahoo! mail is the only major service out there that supports push-IMAP.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

Remember it runs osx, many limitations are fixable via software

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ian MacLeod:

"The iPhone can do push email according to Jobs, but only for people who have a Yahoo webmail account. Bad luck if you prefer Gmail or some other mail provider."

Are you kidding?

Gmail doesn't even support IMAP let alone push-IMAP.

As far as I'm aware, Yahoo! mail is the only major service out there that supports push-IMAP.

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qurious:

What I miss most with the iPhone is the integration of a GPS receiver. I mean geotagging photos or getting information based on my current location (read from the integrated GPS receiver) from google maps on would have made me really happy ;-)
where can i get a pizza?

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Jason:

This phone is 6 months away, most of your points are basically unknowns right now. For the most part we'll just have to wait and see what it's like in the real world.

My initial responses to your list are:

1) Absolutely, but I'm sure that has something to do with the choice of Cingular
2) 5 hrs is alot of Talk time. Personally if I'm at my desk I won't be browsing on it and if I plan to talk for more than 5 hours a day on the thing I'll definitely have a second charger (or iPod cable, as it uses the same connector as an iPod for charging)
3) Are you sure that the battery is built in? From pics on the web it looks like the back may be removable (http://www.engadget.com/photos/first-iphone-pics/130202/)
4) wait and see...
5) Steve said that all iPhone users will receive a Yahoo! push imap account. And Cingular says that they will have special plans for iPhone users.
6) 2mp is great for a camera phone
7) It's a cell phone. If you wanna get a phone on a US carrier you make concessions.
8) I thought you were worried about data usage :-)
9) see 7
10) I'm sure we'll see that go up as flash memory prices drop and sizes increase.

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Eric:

I want yo know why you think that the battery is not removable? They said nothing about it, and if you look at pictures of the back of the device, there is very clearly a compartment on the bottom back of the device (black instead of the grey of the rest of the back).

I just find it aggravating when people make assumptions and publish them as facts.

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gzino:

The #1 reason is that Apple stuck the iPhone in the Cingular/AT&T walled garden. I'm sure design and usability are top notch as usual from Apple, but they missed the chance to re-invent the telecom industry, as predicted here and described in better detail here

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Anonymous:

Hey theres a reason for only 2MP I would say. Its not exactly packing serious glass in the camera, no Leica or Carl Ziess optics there. Do you really want to capture 7MP or junk and push the file size up?

Give me a break, syncing a music library over bluetooth is just not possible to slow by far. I avoid doing this with my Palm and that just a few megs. WiFi is possible but I have never tried plus I guess there are power issues.

Video chat? Why? I know loads of people with 3G video capable phones and not one video chats. Its too expensive and you get a poor quality picture and audio experience.

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vineet:

how about a GPS too? most sprint phones have GPS's and location aware software. that would really work well with google maps since you don't have to update the mapping data all the time, like most current standalone GPS's do.
Add geo-tagging and take pictures of places you visit and then just tap on the picture and ask it to give you directions.

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Max:

IMAP Push isn't proprietary at all. In fact it's an old standard - most IMAP servers support it, most e-mail clients support it and even some phones (like the Sony Ericsson K800i). Yahoo will simply offer some free IMAP accounts.

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tina mcgown:

IMAP does not download the entire message as POP3 does, so I disagree with your point of hatred.

What about the scheduling and calendar app? Why was that subject glossed over completely? The screenshot that jobs showed looked like calendar and the calendar widget is terrible. I need something along the lines of palm desktop, outlook, or goodle's calendar.

I bet they crippled the bluetooth/wifi to prevent people from bypassing the cingular data network.

I also think they are forcing people through itunes to force them to use upcoming apple software. addressbook, ical, and iphoto for the pc?


I have doubts.

I think jobs still believes that devices should be upgraded every year - 2 years in this case because of the contract, so I bet everything will last at least that long.

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Anonymous:

Uhh, for #5 you need to go back and research how IMAP "IDLE" works. It doesn't poll, thats the point. That's why its push email. Its not going to be eating up gobs of bandwidth by rechecking your inbox every 2 minutes. With IMAP IDLE, you open a single TCP connection and then the server sends a simple respone when new messages arrive. With the wonders of TCP/IP, a TCP connection can be long lived and survive without any data going across it. Also remember that IMAP allows users to download headers only and content only when needed (such as attachments, etc).

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Anonymous:

Battery and storage space are the biggest issues. User replaceable batteries would solve this by opening 3rd party makers into producing better power sources for it. On the storage front sandisk have announced 32gig storage chips recently, give it a year/ 6months after the iphone release for bigger capacity iphones to be released

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Anonymous:

I enjoyed most of your points, but
you can't have your cake and eat it too. I would hardly consider the 8GB of storage a "hate", that's just where we're at in the stream of time. It's like saying you hate that hybrids only get 50 mpg. The next generations will undoubtedly have 16 and eventually 32GB of storage, but until then there is no way they could have used a HD in this phone. It wouln't fit in the current sexy size, and it would destroy the already anemic battery life you "hate".

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Helge:

I think that the article was very focused on MUST find 10 things I don't like. Therefore I find some of the points a little far fetched. I will comment on the 8GB storage. I think the comment about video on 8GB is strange. I have a PSP which I also use for video. I use a program to rip/compress DVDs and the size of a fairly good quality file is about 500 - 600KB for one DVD. That means you can put 4-5 movies on the card and still have your favourite music on.

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Anonymous:

do u really expect to be using that phone more than 5 hours per day ?

i completely dissagree; i rarely spend more than 30 minutes per day on the phone, probably closer to 10 minutes, so what's wrong with a 5 hour autonomy ?

maybe you don't understand what that data means.

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myprivateradio:

Do you not think that a substantial portion of the battery life will be consumed by the user listening to music???
I am not going to not purchase the device because of the battery life but I think that it will be disappointing considering that it will have 2 primary functions both consuming battery life (communication and music playback). It just means that users have to adapt and have a capacity to charge the device in most circumstances (office, home, car etc).

29 February 2008, 8:35 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

grovberg:

Okay, point 5 is that the device is going to use crazy amounts of data, but then point 8 is that it doesn't include a video conferences? The most data hungry application I can imagine for a mobile phone? How does that make sense?

Point 7 is that your mad at Apple because Google doesn't support push email? Isn't that an issue with Gmail? Apple did rise above, letting you either use the push email that requires extensive backend support or use another provider in the standard way they provide their service. What else was Apple supposed to do exactly?

I agree with some of your issues, the battery being among the top, but it really seems like you were stretching to get to 10.




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Anonymous:

Number 7 is a non-issue. If you watch the keynote, Jobs mentions that the iPhone will support ANY email service, POP3 or IMAP. He specifically mentions gmail as being supported. As for push, that's something your email provider has to support. Apple went the extra mile by getting Yahoo to agree to giving users a free push IMAP account. They could have left us in the lurch and said everyone would have to find this service on their own, but they didn't. Yet you still complain about it. As far as the carrier installing crap, the jury is still out on this one. We don't know if Cingular is going to install their own software or not yet. Apple might insist that they not do this. We won't know until June.

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zelenej:

#6 - that is hardly a thing to hate. Even the 2MP cameras in mobile phones do not make much sense. Why bother capturing something that went through a 5mm lens on a 3mm sensor with so many pixels.. you get bigger files, more noise and zero additional information. More pixels almost never make better pictures.

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Anonymous:

While it's probably too early to rationally have strong feelings (love or hate) I think you make some interesting points,
1) Why EDGE? Probably just because we here in the US are a bit far behind. We dont have any widespread 3G networks available yet. Our fastest data service is the Sprint/Verizon EVDO which from what I understand is not used anywhere else. This is apple's first phone, they probably wanted to only make 1 version of it.

2) "Battery Life Sucks" - Well I think it's more fair to say that battery life is not fully explained. What does it mean when they say 5 hours talk/browsing/email, 16 hours audio playback? What if I dont do any browsing or email, how long can I talk then? More importantly, what is the standby time? WHy is audio playback separated from the other activities? Does that mean 2 batteries? The Blackberry Perl claims only 3.5 hours of talk time, the Treo 750 claims 4 hours of talk time. Given that, 5 hours of talk time seems pretty good for a smartphone. But in any case we just need more details about this.

3) Built in battery - Good point. We can only hope that apple provides a very easy way to change these batteries. Maybe an in-store replacement service?

4) "Touch Screen" - Not enough information to say for sure how responsive this is. The keyboard looks like it's a bit slow and difficult.. but then again.. no slower or more difficult than the blackberry Perl which has 2 letters per key. I guess we'll see.

5) "Heavy Data Usage" - Hopefully Cingular will offer an "unlimited" data package like t-mobile does in the US. I pay $35/month for unlimited email and text messaging.

6) "2 Megapix Camera" - I agree a 3 megapixel camera would have been nice. Probably a compromise to keep costs down.

7) "Proprietary tie-ins" - I admit I dont know much about how "push" IMAP works, but I suppose it's something that involves some specialized support on the server side. Blackberry accomplishes this by selling you some software that you attach to your exchange server. Apple is accomplishing this by partnering with a popular email provider that is willing to provide this service for free. If you dont want to use it, then regular IMAP and POP3 is available. All things considered, I think Apple's model here is pretty fair. Most people who will buy this phone probably dont have an exchange server to install "push" software on.

8) "No video iChat" - yea.. this would have been cool. Not a deal breaker, however.

9) "Apple chooses your mobile network" - also kind of a bummer. But then again, it sounds as if - typical to apple's approach - they want to integrate the features of this phone much more closely to the network. Which could make the tie-in worth it. Visual voice mail is a TERRIFIC idea. I absolutely hate having to dial in to a voicemail to retrieve my messages.

10) "Only 8GB storage" - Again.. yea.. more would have been nice.. but it already has more than any other smartphone: Treo 750 has 60MB of memory, and supports a 2GB miniSD card. The Perl has 64MB. 8GB is a LOT more than anyone else offers. Again... a trade off on price.


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Aram:

Best Nokia smartphones only provide 3-4 hours of talking (see specs for NSeries on nokia.com), so iPhone is at least on par.

As to replaceable battery: in the old times batteries were bad and phones were expensive, and you would have to replace batteries before the phone is thrown into the waste basket. With the current battery technologies the situation is totally opposite. On the other hand, the battery compartment is the most vulnerable thing because it makes for the dust, wather spilling into the device, and is normally the first thing that gets broken when your beloved phone gets a strong hit from a concrete floor.

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Matt:

2. Battery life is the same as any traditional smart phone. (ie: C-Net's top rated smart phone, the RIM BlackBerry 7130c, offers 240 minutes of talk-time) If you really talk more than 5 hours a day on your cell phone (which is about HALF of the average work day) you probably already carry around a charger in your briefcase. The iPhone charger is simply a USB 2 - iPod or Firewire - iPod cable, much smaller and lighter than an AC adapter.

NOTE:
Phone -- Battery Life for Talk Time
iPhone -- 300 mins
RIM BlackBerry 7130c -- 240 mins
Sony Ericsson P990i -- 540 mins
T-Mobile Dash -- 300 mins
RIM BlackBerry 8700g -- 240 mins
T-Mobile SDA -- 300 mins
Palm Treo 700p -- 270 mins
Samsung BlackJack -- 330 mins
RIM BlackBerry 8703e -- 198 mins

I'd say the iPhone sits at about average but with far greater capabilities.


4. Touch screen is brand new technology that is far more self correcting than any previous plastic qwerty tech. Also, the screen composition is different than the CRT style monitors used at grocery stores.

5. The iPhone supports push e-mail from Yahoo, that services is offered. The intention of imap and pop3 is to be used by using WiFi technology.

7. Setting up email fowarding to a yahoo account is very simple, it's not like you have to pay additional money to Apple or Yahoo to get the push-email service.

9. This is a fairly common practice, only specific wireless companies carry specific phones all the time.

10. I think this is really a matter of preference, but I think 8 GB is a very generous offer especially since it's flash memory. Its capacity is the same as the largest iPod Nano (most popular iPod today) capacity which is enough room for roughly 2000 songs or about 10 hours of video -- do you really need any more? Also, I'm sure a 16 GB model will come out not long after the FCC approves the device and Apple can shift its focus on to product improvement.

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Lucas Couvreur:

One More Thing....




You suck why would you allready make "Top 10 things to hate about the Apple iPhone" ???
Thats why they will wait for 5 months still... DUUUH

Stupid

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Bd:

re: battery life: The brand new "Blackjack" from Cingular only gets 5.5 hrs! It's NOT that uncommon at all! This is a non-point. That 5 hr. number is more than likely 5 continuous hours of USAGE. Not, re-charge every 5 hours.

I think the video argument is silly. Yes, it sounds cool in theory. But you mentioned data transfer rates. Streaming, non-jittery, non-crappy looking wireless video stream is HARD to to. They won't do it until they can do it perfectly. Period.

Basically, I think your article is wildly premature. And I guarantee there will be other features and improvements made by the time they launch in June. There aren't 10 million of these things sitting in boxes somewhere right this minute.

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Jay:

4-8 GB is a lot, however there is no expandability. Something that has been frustrating about iPODs. Why oh why not put a slot in for mini SD??

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HeirToPendragon:

Come on guys, stop beating this guy up over it. He clearly says that yes he wants one of these, but is just wanting to point out that you shouldn't expect perfection

(especially from anything made by Apple X-D)

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Anonymous:

1) Yeah no 3G is a disappointment.
2) Battery life is good! 5hs *talk* time. We dont know what the standby time is though...
3) To be honest, I havent changed a phone battery since 1999
4) Too early to say yet. You havent even tried it ;-)
5) Maybe...
6) Pah! Phone camera optics are so crap, anything over 1MP is pure marketing wank. 2MP is plenty.
7) You got this one wrong
8) Video chat?? On what bandwidth? I will settle for regular MSN+Yahoo+Gtalk chat.
9) Yeah, thats a pity. But at least you get the full benefit of the phone. Nokia have had email support back in 98 - but vodafone in the UK didnt.
10) 8G is about as good as it gets with solid state storage...

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DavidL:

The only feature of the iPhone that I can really get excited over is the visual voicemail interface, which should have become the standard for all cell phones as soon as they started coming with GUIs. Good on Apple for finally stepping up and creating one, but this was the most obvious upgrade possible. Other than that...I'll believe Apple's worked out the litany of long-standing problems with touchscreen interfaces - and created a system of gestures that's more intuitive and reliable than just tapping a button - when I see it. The forced Cingular contract is just bad practice. The built-in battery will, as always, be a gigantic pain to have fixed in the event of a failed part, for no reason at all.

On the other hand, I admit that the wide screen and iPod interface are shiny as all get-out, but if I'm buying something for its media-playing capabilities, I'm sure not paying $600 for 8 gigs of storage.

(That reminds me: When it comes right down to it, IT'S A $600 PHONE. JESUS CHRIST, PEOPLE.)

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SanDiegan:

Flawed and poorly researched article. I say fire the editor and give him a iphone as the severance package :)

1) The no 1 point about EDGE being only available in Australia. If the author had just spent 3 minutes to Google he would find that Cingular supports it and so do other operators. EDGE is everywhere in Europe as everywhere along with GSM.

2) 5 hrs of talk time is unheard of. That's the best talk time for a phone. The author should have checked some phone specs before making an outrageous comment like that.

3) How many times have any of us needed to change battery. How about the battery being good (5 hrs) of talk time that you don't need to change.





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WhyCantAmericansReadArticles:

SanDiegan,
1)The author does not claim that EDGE is only available in Australia, only that "the only Australian phone network that supports it is Telstra" This is because Australia has MOVED ON TO 3G
2) I can only speak for my Nokia N95 which has around 6 hours talk time... but America is still in some patriotic love affair with Motorola Crap
3)Anyone who uses a mobile seriously will need to change the battery. You clearly are not in any kind of serious management position.


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antler:

The camera argument is just flawed. I own a SE k800 (3mp) myself and it just doesn't live up to the hype. The photos are usually grainy blended in with some noise. Compared to this, my 3mp Canon is excellent - producing sharp photos every time. Phone cameras will never be good as their standalone counterparts however many mega-pixels they purport to give.

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Oliver Reichenstein:

As always when someone is doing something really great - the next day some whiny dude comes along and tries to find some flaw.

No 3G sucks. We all know that. The rest of these arguments is just plain whiny yada yada.

Just put this phone next to ANY other phone and you'll see how thin your arguments are.

Just put this phone next to a freakin' brown Zune with its wanabe clickwheel and you'll see how incredibly far ahead Apple is with this thing.

If you want to find something imperfect in a human product you will always find it. But in this case you actually have to try a little harder, dude.

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raindog:

What did you think you were doing giving unbiased revies of the press release from Fruit Computers new phone.
At least when critiqueing Microsoft you only have to worry about sour grapes from the proud owners of a few new Ferrari Laptops. Along with a press release so large you couldn't jump over with a pole, Fruit Computer has also activated a mind worm that forces legions of fan-bois and tame retailers to defend the honour of "I-", they'll have no talk of any flaws however unbiased.

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Anonymous:

No one seems to be mentioning the obvious--Cingular S**ks. Period. No customer service, Shi**y reception, clogged networks etc. Apple is a grade A company, teaming up with a lose C company.

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Anonymous:

i guess you are a moron.....no one used this phone and started previewing about this phone...hey you dumb*** Aussies have you heard about Motorola Q? this phone was first launched through verizon wireless..now available in GSM/CDMA...similarly apple also makes a deal with USA's ATT wireless/cingular...i guess they will be available unlocked in other country's market...also for those conventional Microsoft worshipers we have the zune phone is coming up..just google about it and see it for yourself.

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raindog:

When it comes to dumb you 2nd rate american PR types surely take the cake. It would be best you kept quiet or you risk giving the impression all that all Americans are morons.
Before blurting out you Fruit Computer evangalism did you take time to loosen your skivvie and consider APC is an Australian Publication and its articles might just be directed towards the services available in Australia.
Yes Chuck there is a whole world out there that isn't America. (Thank the lord)
So best you go back to your "hootin and a hollerin" at those Fruit Computer product launches, the rest of the free world can get on fine without your input!

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Thomas:

I guess we're just used to having the fastest national network in the world (Telstra NextG) and one of the oldest 3rd gen networks (3).

Edge is in dinosaur territory.

My Nokia 6110 can already do the majority of mapping (GPS, nearby restaurants etc) stuff in the iphone, and it can do it today, without the huge up front cost of iphone. Plus there is fm radio, yahoo mail, facebook etc

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St3phen:

Having just read your article, I found that I agreed with much of it. However, there are some glaring inaccuracies/perceptions that need to be considered. To wit:

4. Apple didn't license the technology. As Jobs mentioned, there are over 200 patents on the device. The screen tech is among those.

7. RIM's push technology is proprietary to them. The only other push (including Yahoo!'s) is based on the new IMAP Idle command. Given that Gmail doesn't support IMAP *at all,* that particular example is a very bad one. Additionally, we don't know whether the phone will support IMAP Idle in general (via other ISPs) or not. More and more ISPs are providing support for this tech.

9. Ever noticed that every carrier tries to make the UI of every phone in their stable look the same? You alluded to that in item 7. Apple is lucky to have found ANY carrier that would allow Apple to create the look and feel that Apple wants the phone to have. Other carriers, like Verizon- famous for crippling their phones to make you pay for more carrier services, Is there any way that you believe that Verizon would give Apple this kind of control? The fact that Cingular would work with Apple like this is what leads to the kind of data service, etc, that is available to iPhone users. In addition, if I recall correctly, GSM is the true worldwide standard and the CDMA-based carriers are few and far between outside of North America. If Apple developed the iPhone for Verizon and/or Sprint, there's a good chance that they would limit their customer base to a North American audience.

...just sayin'

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Chidugwa:

As of last November in the US carriers are also required to unlock cell phones. It had to do with a copyright ruling and the Library of Congress.

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Sam:

Your battery life expectations are pretty unrealistic. Let's consider the pixel density and brightness of the screen, the obvious amount of processor power and power for the 3 sensors, not to mention phone power and media playing capabilities.

I would say that it is on par, if not better than real world usage times for, say the treo 650. It is much BETTER than phones like the blackjack. Expecting 12 hour talk times or whatever you want is simply not something that is yet possible.

Also, the video chat features will comes with HSDPA, no doubt, as other smartphones are showing up with front-mounted cameras. Apple won't miss out, they just need to solve their HSDPA problem first. video chat and slow data are the same complaint.

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Anonymous:

Good points.

The battery life does bail a little bit. It is still enough to get by. Realistically most people wont use up an entire 5 hours of talk time before they get their iPhone back into the charger. How do you manage with your current phone now?

That battery should be changeable! After 6 years I would have thought that clicked. Its the part of most portable devices that kick the bucket first. Its not going to be the HD anymore!

Data, bandwidth and speed. Well, I guess these are coming. Sure it would be nice to have the same speed of internet you experience at home, but we're talking about some major infrastructure. Its also going to bite a lot of people in the butt on how 'limited' your bandwidth is going to be per month for upload and download. I'd get the phone but probably not use the internet until it gets in the same brackets as home cable broadband.

I don't quite enjoy the tie-ins and provider contracts that come with the phone - but I am sure you can work around this. The availability of a SIM card slot suggests that cingular may not be the only provider you can use. But because you have to use the 2 year contract to get the phone most people will just find it easier to change over and not bother about messing around with SIM cards.

Yea sure I would have liked a bigger space than 8GB but I still have a 10GB iPod which works for me and is a tough as a brick. I would have also liked to see a bigger cam but I guess these specs improvements are coming as revisions start rolling out.

Video iChat? I guess.

Touch Screen - we don't know exactly how good this will be until we 'get our hands on it' pun intended. I'm sure it will beat the stylus, and if the keyboard is clumsy well it makes up for it in the scrolling :D

Will I buy one? Yes - when the second generation comes out. Like my iPod.

But if I were to jump the gun and get one shipped over to Australia. What are the chances that the phone would work with my Telstra SIM card? Phone calls, SMS and internet?

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jerry:

3. Non replaceable battery. The iPod battery is non-replaceable supposedly. Hasn't stopped the hundreds of services out there supplying people with the tools and batteries to replace and upgrade their iPod batteries. Some of them cost as little as $15 for a self install. A battery compartment is the weakest point in any phone.

4. Watch the keynote, the touch screen is nothing short of amazing. It's the UI that makes this phone the truly revolutionary product it is.

People like you in design positions at Nokia and other mobile companies are the reason why our mobiles suck so badly. You get caught up with the hardware and completely ignore the user experience. Consumers are lucky Apple is around to make the mobile makers look like the dinosaurs they are.

Pogue does a nice review of the iPhone after a hands on experience. The keyboard is also self correcting and zooms up in response to the finger. So if you type wrclme by mistake it'll show welcome as a option.

Watch the keynote http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/keynote/

Price: would rather get a pile of steaming dog poo for free or pay for a PDA,iPod Nano and Mobile in a single package that is simply gorgeous? Apple is going to own this market like they own the music player market and the mobile companies have only themselves to blame for years of foisting crap phones on us.

Sell your Moto, Nokia and Samsung stock now and use it to buy Apple shares. Don't be like those losers who could have bought Apple at $20 and didn't when they released the first iPod.

2008 is too long to wait.

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KC:

I have to disagree on many of the points being made by the writer of the article. We're dealing with a brand new convergent device here, and when it comes to such there is no such thing as perfection.

For something like this to do up to 5 hours talk time is considered more than good. And the fact that it supports up to EDGE data is also a positive-enough feature for a first-gen iPhone product (given that the greater number of phone networks are still 2G-based, as well as the majority of where users are, it is only logical for any product maker to target such a segment first).

As much as these may be "hate" points, one needs to remain objective with such commenting - which is clearly something the writer has no regard for. The iPhone isn't a 6G iPod - it's a completely brand new product category, and design.


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Dr H:

In my eyes, the iPhone is already outdated: The new N95 by Nokia will have 3.5G for fast data transfer/surfing, and a 5.0MP camera. It will also feature a built-in GPS system.

For me the 3.5G is the most important feature, followed my the GPS. The 5.0MP camera is a nice "bonus"...

But, the design of the iPhone is unbeatable - for those "fashion-junkies" who only care about looks/the "cool factor" and not specs and performance.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bryce!!:

If you need a camera that is more than 2MP, use an actual digital camera! Nobody knows how it compares to other mobile phone cameras. From what i have seen on 2MP cameras, the quality is quite poor, and nowhere near what a digital camera can produce. Maybe the iPhone has a lot better quality than the others? Who knows. I have a 1.3MP camera on my current phone, and it seems big enough for me to take photos, i think that 2MP is big enough for a photo size, especially coming from a phone, where only basic shots are supposed to bed taken. Once apple had improved the MP on the camera, it would increase the price. So, if u want bigger photos, you might aswell have bought a digital camera rather than paying the difference of the phone if it had a bigger MP.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Anonymous:

The megapixel race on camera is getting ridiculous: more pixels don't always mean better image, and in some case the opposite is true. Everything else being equal, cramping more pixels into a small sensor tend to produce more noise. All cell phone sensors currently have tiny image sensor, so a 2MP is actually pushing it.

Case in point, a 3MP Canon SLR made 6 years ago produce images far superior to those from the current 8MP point and shoot cameras.

And to print a nice detailed 4x6, one only need a good 1MP image.

29 February 2008, 8:36 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Digger:

Some EXCELLENT points on WHY I will not be running out and buying an iPhone first thing- despite the fact I love working on my Mac.
The biggest thing for me personally is the Battery Issue... I've been grumbling about this for YEARS on the iPods- WHY no user-replaceable batterys?!
Easy. Apple wants to soak you whenever one their powercells dies, and you're inconveinanced by having to make a trip to the "local" Applestore or ship it out to have replaced. STUPID.STUPID.STUPID.
-aaaaand now they want to appply that same wonderful scheme to CELLPHONES?! WTF.

As for no 3G, Cingular still has gaping holes in their network - so Apple likely decided it wasn't a big deal to debut the iPhone without that capability for now- although if they want ANY shot at more cutting-edge devices, they'll have to sometime soon.
I also hate the fact that Apple has decided to flip eveyone who's NOT on the Cingular network the fat finger, and leave it up to them to decide if they want to A: payup an early-termination fee and get the "hottest thing in phones" now- or B: stick with a carrier that they like. Personally, having a phone service that WORKS is more important than getting a new gadget to me. And yes, I can say that because I've HAD Cingular and they blow. Get me a Verizon version, I'll think about it.

Touchscreen- this one is like, totally going to be a major hit or a miserable miss for Jobs & Co. I too suspect more people would prefer the tactile feel of more traditional keypads over tapping at a screen- but who knows? Apple has had a great track-record in designing intelligent, easy-to-use human-interface devices... possibly this'll be wonderful.
On the other hand, it means your visual attention will be required every time you're using the iPhone- I'd suspect most iPhone owners would want to invest in the hands-free automotive kit somewhere down the line.

As far as the quality of the camera and the capacity of the internal storage space, I don't buy a cellphone/pda expecting it to be a great camera. That's what digital cameras are for. Nice to have the ability to snap a quick photo- but I wouldn't trust important pictures to be made on a device like the iPhone.
The 4/8GB storage sounds great- for a Phone... but with the iPhone being touted as also combo MP3 player/video playback device, I'd have thought the capacity would be a bit more myself.

No Synching through Bluetooth & Wi-Fi is also nothing endearing to me about this product- maybe that'll change in the coming months before its release.

Anyhow, I think the iPhone v2.0 might be closer to what I've thought about the "what-ifs" when it came to Apple making a cell phone.
I'd Love to see improvements in several areas for the existing model, but given time- Apple could have a big winner on their hands... the potential is definately there for the iPhone to do for the cell phone market, what the iPod did for portable music players.


29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Alex666:

Hahaha....it's fun watching the zealots come out to protect their precious Apple.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

alwayskumar:

You are correct, but only in two points... that is about the IN-Built-Battery and the Network (Cingular)...but all other reasons are just a waste of space, you are just want to speak against the iphone nothing else we can see there.....sorry babe the reasons are just sucks..................

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

onetimevisitor:

Everyone seems to be forgetting that it is still several months until launch of the iPhone, and there are likely to be many new features announced and changes between now and its eventual release.
Furthermore, this is still the first generation of the iPhone. If you were to compare the first iPods to the current models, there have been many changes over the years. Although I do take issue with some of the features of the iPhone, I know that by the third generation, everything will have improved.

29 February 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

tony:

you've never even used this device, how can you form such a strong opinion already? If you'd done any research you'd know the multi touch techno stuff is based on Jeff Han's work, go watch his TED talk on their website numbnuts and see how well it works for yourself. btw i agree with you on one point, i want one of these.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

sandesh :

well will i be able to use the iphone in india...as in buying the iphone from usa and taking it to india and using it.. will it be possible.. secondly does it support reading word and ecel documents... as it is very important in business,.
if anyone can ans .. it wud be really greatful...
Thanks a lott

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

some dude:

about batteries
one of my ipods is from about 4? years ago, right before the fancy colors =P and i can tell you, at full charge, the battery will last me about 4 hours, and it loses its charge very quickly, maybe a week before its totally dead.

as for being stuck to cingular, i think that is because they were the only ones who would concede to apples list of demands for what the service provider and or can not do, yada yada.

i remember there being legislation in the US as well that prevents carriers from locking phones to their network as well

i have a touch screen on my t-mobile mda, and i can tell you, these things are very moody. it likes to get itself out of alignment at random times, sometimes being off by as much as 2 cm, and on a screen thats around 3x6cm, thats pretty bad. of course, i have no clue how this touch screen stacks up to apple's.

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sri:

The mistakes in iPhone pointed out are totally unnecessary.. the writer has searched for mistakes... but hard work though.. i think the OS X on the mobile will be a million times faster than the windows mobile versions... look at the pleasing interface of the iPhone.. phones that will come after this might only copy such interfaces.. the inbuilt battery might be an issue but the other features are absolutely fine..
and if u want more than a 2.0 mp camera rather an Olympus will be a good choice.. if this phone doesnt have a camera also i am sure there will be enough sales for this master piece.. Of course apple are smart people thts why there is a camera...

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul Kalfadellis:

I was just curious about the name iPhone. Why not using a different name instead of iPhone like MacPhone instead, since the name iPhone was register to Cisco. well, although they both had resolved the problem, but still i prefer MacPhone compared to iPhone

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

raindog:

Why do the call the I-Pods when to more closely follow the intended usage they should have been called Ear-Pods. Still in fidelity terms there is more on offer visually than aurally. The whole "I" thing will be as passe as see through monitors any time soon.

29 February 2008, 8:40 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

George:

I got 2 words for you: Time & Money!

Here's two things you should consider:

1. Apple may have thrown in everything you asked for but then are you willing to pay a thousand dollars for that? In product development, the cost of the product is a major concern! Consider the price, before you criticize.

2. And ofcourse, something, actually lots of things have to be left for future development, otherwise we wouldn't even see it going in the market June '07. Would you be willing to wait another couple of years to get all you want in the phone?

Well... ofcourse there will be a lot of improvements in the phone and I'm pretty sure you'll get all you want albeit much more expensive and much more later! So... are you willing to pay much more and wait much longer??? According to your blog you should, but I don't think you will because you know all those 10 things you wrote are not worth the time and money!

29 February 2008, 8:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nokia user:

will buy iphone 2nd gen, with HSDPA,3G, GPS. for now using Nokia N95.

Let them fight for this technological iCrap.


29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

harna:

Recently i purchased apple i phone ...and downloaded mobile Vista window 2.3far version and my phone has started working like computer .i also downloaded imega that increases megapixel of camera unbelievble i changed it from 2 mp to 16 mpixel ..lovely phone and it working great..

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Speech:

harna, first of all there's no such thing as mobile vista.
Second of all, all the things you mentioned are bloody impossible (Megapixels is based on hardware, not software), discounting the fact that the iphone hasn't even been released yet.
Stick to the facts.

29 February 2008, 8:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Dad:

1st things first, The date is the 26th of june and the phone isnt even on the market for another month & HARNA (The idiot) Says he has brought one...

All i can say is GO AWAY U IDIOT!

As for updating the cam from 2 to 16 megapixels....

& I'm only shouting for the idiots here HARNA!!!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE! ITS A HARDWARE THING NOT A SOFTWARE THING... U IDIOT!

Anyway to get back to the topic of this story.. This was meant to be an informational story about the good & the bad points of a product which is soon to be released based on spec's alone.

& it was a good write up that gave both positive & negative results, The way any unbiased story should be written.

I'm not a fan of microcrap nor am i a fruit computer fan but i can say it was interesting to see someone from any part of the tech world releasing a phone which is at least 1 generation behind the market leader (i.e Nokia 95) Who really cares about a touch screen when u can have 3.5g Hsdpa bluetooth gps maps plus all the other spec's..

Anyway back to the topic this phone sounds good but i say wait till the 3rd generation of this phone when they catch up to the market leader, Thats when this phone war is really going to take off & all i can say to the wannabe cool people who must have this gadget, Sucked in.. Your going to pay the price for something that spec's look like it came from 1995...

29 February 2008, 8:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nsu:

This article itself is total crap. Every single gadget you find in the market has its own benefits as well as drawbacks that you should consider as a buyer and reviewer. I do have Sony Ericsson W950i.. It has 4Gb of internal memory but I cant use all of that rooms as it becomes too slow. But it gives awesome sound and moderate looking style and stuff. And, I do like it. So, commenting is fair enough but not like to point out like 'top 10 things to hate iphone' before even you see it in ur palm. I am neither an Apple's agent or even a prospective buyer but it is simply not fair enough.

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jill:

There is a tech support site that I used once to fix my Ipod troubleshooting problem and recently I saw they added the iphone. It is amazing to see how many users already posted troubleshooting problems in that site. here is the page: iPhone Support

29 February 2008, 8:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

andersonoscar5:

Oh that gorgeous high-resolution widescreen. It invites you to touch it - which is just as well, given that's how you interact with the iPhone. 

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Andrew:

Don't bother getting an Iphone, tied in to expensive contracts, difficult to unlock and even if you manage to the latest update might disable your phone.

Go for this http://www.openmoko.com/

much better, open source and completely unlocked, has almost all the features and the ones it doesn't you could probably get a download for or write the software yourself


29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

iphonefreak:

Check out this parody iphone commercial.Its really funny!http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/10/11/bwetvideos-how-do-you-use-your-iphone/

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

chuck e cheese:

A cute package and small interior. The iPhone concept has so much potential, but so far it just fails to deliver anything except instant gratification to the fanboys...

www.ihatemyiphone.com by the way.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

hebrink:

I hate iPhone, that's why I prefer to choose ROKR E8.

29 February 2008, 8:32 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Varun:

Iphone is cool but wont click in india
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/2007/12/26/10-reasons-why-the-apple-iphone-wont-hit-india.html

29 February 2008, 8:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

the man:

yeah dudes!

i done got me an i phone it the man!!

i would have sexy time with it if i could

i cant pick a flaw in it

and hows this ozzy dude writing it off when he hasnt touched it yet

seriously your a joke

29 February 2008, 8:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Eric :

I think it's really REALLY unethical how AT&T has effectively doubled the cost of unlimited text msging ONLY for the iphone, when I signed up I swear to god it said I could ad it on for 19 bucks a month more, and I was like meh I don't use texts to much, and then of course the iPhone has this bad ass text like format and I went stupid with them. If I want unlimited texts it is 40 bucks a month or 30 for 1500. So what is different about text msging on the iPhone? I asked the AT&T rep and wondered if pixies specially delivered the msgs instead of regular radio type transmissions, she actually held back laughter. I love this damn thing, but what the hell, I could have been JUST as happy with the Sidekick lx, and had the ability to expand memory with memory cards till my arms fell off, and be paying $80 a month for my bill and have unlimited texts, my bill is already 93 a month. Text msging is the biggest crock of shit, it costs them VERY little to send them, it's all about the profit margins on those bad boys.

29 February 2008, 8:33 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Laurie (New user):

What concerns me most nowadays is the quantum leap in people using Mac related gadgets/programs eg. notebooks, ipods and now iPhones.
Us long time Macintosh users have been secretly contented with our 3% of the market share. We have maintained the smug look on our faces at every virus warning and latest bugs to hit the computer scene, in my case I have never had to be concerned with firewalls/antivirus programs etc. and their maintenance, it's just been one thing that I have allowed myself to be ignorant of.
But now with the proliferation of Mac based devises on the market I feel that those days could soon be numbered. With Jobs looking as though he wants to dominate and control areas of the communications industry he appears to resemble Micosoft more and more and will be as big a target as Gates.

15 April 2008, 10:34 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

perhapsnot (New user):

I love the iPhone!
But I dont have one.. :(

For those who want to check out the iPhone before they buy, or just want to revel in its beauty, try iPhoneBT.
Its an iPhone simulator for Windows.

Anyway, interesting post!



18 May 2008, 9:28 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nick89 (New user):

"in Australia, carriers are legally obliged to unlock phones free of charge at the customer's request - though that doesn't cancel other contractual obligations such as ongoing plan fees"
FALSE - TELSTRA IS THE ONLY TELCO IN AUSTRALIA WHOS PHONES COME UNLOCKED (EXCLUDING PRE-PAID). ALL OTHER COMPANIES, YOU HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE YOUR PHONE UNLOCKED AND ITS NOT CHEAP AT THAT - TRUST ME, IVE BEEN THERE!

17 June 2008, 10:19 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

aussiecook (New user):

For people who do get one heres an Aussie app.. Recipes for your iPhone: http://www.aussiecooking.com.au/iphone/

01 July 2008, 8:27 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TroyBoy71 (New user):

Working with Optus in May - they identified they have approx 35 000 iPhone handsets on their newtwork alone here... WELL before launch... and yes, they are the old 2G ones... and YES... we're all waiting for the new one!!

07 July 2008, 5:17 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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