Two hard drives you'll absolutely drool over

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Perfect for all those luddites out there who are afraid of 'bloatware' hogging all their precious HD space !

And as for Seagate drives ? They've been ex-communicated from our stock at the moment. WD and Samsung all the way !

Your Average Joe (Regular user):

Quoting Me In Oz:
who are afraid of 'bloatware'

OMG ! Does Vista really take up 4 GB of HD space ...... LOL !

jake (User):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
OMG ! Does Vista really take up 4 GB of HD space ...... LOL !


more than that mate

plutonium210 (Advanced member):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Perfect for all those luddites out there who are afraid of 'bloatware' hogging all their precious HD space !

Looks like the OEM's are getting ready for Windows 7 ... ;-)

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Perfect for all those luddites out there who are afraid of 'bloatware' hogging all their precious HD space !


It's not space that I worry about...
First up it's the time it takes to find things in the mess.
Second it's the massive security risks that come from having excessive amounts of unneeded software, particularly if it runs all the time.
And finally, it's the amount of time it takes to reinstall if you have to do so. And let's face it... The more software there is, the greater the chance some part of it will cock up.

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Perfect for all those luddites out there who are afraid of 'bloatware' hogging all their precious HD space !

Until you have to implement backup solutions for multiple 2000G workstations. Great drives but I sure won't be using them for bloat.


Quoting Me In Oz:
And as for Seagate drives ?

you got that right. Once they were the best in class, that once is well and truly over.

Your Average Joe (Regular user):

$375 for 2 TB is on par with $85 for 500 GB.
But I'd rather have the 4 x 500 GB drives for better flexibility and data security/back ups !

Truckasauras (User):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
But I'd rather have the 4 x 500 GB drives for better flexibility and data security/back ups !

Absolutely mate. Actually I'd rather have 1x SSD to run the OS and other programs and then a couple 500GB drives for storage/backup.

CBR1100XX (Cornerstone member):

"Video libraries seem to be the driver for sales of massive hard drives, .." - WD

MP3 collection ...... Game ISO's ......... Porn collection (admit it, everyone has one) !

Me In Oz (Cornerstone member):

Quoting CBR1100XX:
Porn collection (admit it, everyone has one) !

Shock ! Horror ! Oh the humanity !
All I have is GB's of landscape wallpapers :D

rjsquires (User):

Quoting CBR1100XX:
......... Porn collection (admit it, everyone has one) !

Hmm...Don't let a certain LABOR senator find out about that collection...LOL!!! :P

lunchbox (New user):

it can senes falls greater than eight inches and will unload the drive actuator before impact.


Just pointing out a typo

SquirrelGrip (New user):

With all this hard drive space it makes me laugh when people are "Oh so careful not to save or install software because it takes up disk space.

Now days, at least at home, WHO cares??

In a business sure but even our techs are complaining about some of our data we use taking up 8 gig. Admittedly they aren't the brightest lights on the Christmas tree, but they have 150gig of free space any fool can see that 8 gigs doesn't matter

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting SquirrelGrip:
it makes me laugh when people are "Oh so careful not to save or install software because it takes up disk space.

Does it make you laugh when those same people have a smaller and much more efficient registry, giving them a clear speed advantage over a system bloated with seldom used and duplicate programs?


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
In a business sure but even our techs are complaining about some of our data we use taking up 8 gig.

Probably because that same data could be stored much more efficiently in a fraction of the space.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
but they have 150gig of free space any fool can see that 8 gigs doesn't matter

But some of those better informed fool may understand that every extra GB takes time to backup with only a limited time window to do so.
Those same better informed fools probably realise that moving all those bloated files and folders back and forth across a network also has a cost in both speed and capacity.

And of course once you want to start playing on the VPN or wireless Internet all those bloated file transfers start costing real money and time.

No matter how much storage space you have there is little reason for duplication and good reason for use of archive and compression measures where ever possible.

It looks like at your workplace, the dimmest bulbs may not be those less than snappily dressed Techs in the IT dept after all.

SquirrelGrip (New user):

why bother storing the said data more efficiently and besides most of it is compressed anyway. the tech are not allowed to put their own data or programs on. (Of course they do but that is thier look out.)

why spend IT-dept man hours on something that does not need to be done?

When there is loads of free space. My point was the tech dont understand they have all that free disk space. All the extra data doesnt make thier laptops any heavier.

At home i tend o redo my pc every 6 months anyway so bloated registry isnt a problem adn all my data is stored on a mirrored hdd on my server

Sure backups are painful but each techs laptop is virtually the same. There again who cares if a laptop hdd dies all we need to do is re image it with all the data from a sysprepped image.

With the large amounts of data nowadays more efficient ways of backing up the data need to be used.

A more worrying thing would be all those pictures people have now on their PC's at home that will never get printed or backed up. Huge amounts of today's history will be gone for later generations as there will be very view printed photos, movies on tape and other electronic documents that will be lost when Hdd's die or PCs are replaced or stolen

Previous generations had only hard copies.

Sobering thought.

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting SquirrelGrip:
why bother storing the said data more efficiently

Because it uses less resources, takes less time to transfer across a network, uses less bandwidth to transfer in a reasonable time frame, takes less time to back up and restore.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
why spend IT-dept man hours on something that does not need to be done?

The extra IT time is taken sorting out the mess created, by endless duplicates, and little or no indexing of user data.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
My point was the tech dont understand they have all that free disk space.

What you are missing is the simple fact that it counter productive to use space simply because it is there, disk searches take longer everything has a cost. TBs of storage is great, but it's pointless if its simply a repository for crud and bloat.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
At home i tend o redo my pc every 6 months anyway

Why? Do you have way too much time on your hands? Loading any OS is a chore, it produces nothing, it gets no work done. But if that's your hobby then I hope your having fun.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
so bloated registry isnt a problem

It is if you re-load all the same crud.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
adn all my data is stored on a mirrored hdd on my server

and so is all the crud. The mirrored back-up is a great measure, but what's the point of backing up crud?


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
Sure backups are painful

And time consuming, particulary when your backing up multiple workstations all full of crud and bloat.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
With the large amounts of data nowadays more efficient ways of backing up the data need to be used.

That starts with more efficient ways of storing the data. Why outlay a huge cost to back-up worthless files.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
all we need to do is re image it with all the data from a sysprepped image.

Which all takes time, time to load time to personalise, time to reestablish a connection to the domain. Why endlessly repeat that when it can be avoided.



Quoting SquirrelGrip:
A more worrying thing would be all those pictures people have now on their PC's at home that will never get printed or backed up.

Perhaps your catching on. So wouldn't some efficiency at the user level be a good thing, insuring wanted data is backed up and removing all the stuff that will never be used.


Quoting SquirrelGrip:
Huge amounts of today's history will be gone for later generations as there will be very view printed photos, movies on tape and other electronic documents that will be lost when Hdd's die or PCs are replaced or stolen

Might be in your case, my data is in order.



Quoting SquirrelGrip:
Previous generations had only hard copies.

Which would rot and decay, be lost in fire and water damage, be lost or misplaced. I'd rather rely on a more modern solution with copies stored at multiple locations.

Its patently obvious that large HDDs are not the universal panacea, data management is as critical today as it ever was. And the filling of GB's of free space with garbage is just as pointless.

kearnsy (User):

I've had a Seagate 500GB 7200RPM 2.5" pre-ordered since early January, the distributors keep changing the ETA, with the latest update set at overdue.

Sigh will just have to put up with 200GB for the time being!

Phil1 (User):

I've been waiting on one of these 500gb drives for ages. Still not in stock.