Virgin Broadband pulled from general retailers

Dan Warne
07 November 2008, 9:10 PM


Virgin Mobile has pulled its wireless broadband service — provided via the Optus 3G mobile network — from general retailers like Dick Smith.


Virgin Broadband — the wireless internet service sold by Virgin Mobile — is the latest casualty of Optus' ailing 3G mobile network.

Virgin Mobile has pulled the Virgin Broadband product from mass merchant retailer shelves, as it continues to be bombarded with complaints from consumers about the quality of the service.

In APC's October 2008 wireless broadband labs challenge, we called for the Virgin Broadband service to be withdrawn from sale until the problems with the Optus mobile network could be fixed.

Shortly after, Optus pulled its own Wireless Fusion service, which was similar to the Virgin Broadband wireless internet service, and delivered over the same network, citing network performance issues.

Virgin Mobile spokesperson Amber Morris said the telco would continue to sell the product directly to consumers via its own stores, its website and call centre, but wanted to have full control over the process of checking a customer's coverage before selling the service to them.

Virgin has tried a number of things in the past month to resuscitate the product, including testing the removal of the 750Kbit/s speed cap it applied to customers' connections to see if that would resolve overall speed issues.

The federal government is investigating Virgin Broadband parent Optus' network quality following ongoing press coverage of outages and poor speeds, and is considering whether it should exclude the company from the Australian Broadband Guarantee rebate scheme, ZDnet reported this week.

"We really want to make sure that, because there's been a lot of press about the quality of the services on that network, to make sure that that network is robust," said Simon Cobcroft from the Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy.

"We're looking at that at the moment and I think probably only a few weeks away we'll make a determination on whether we consider those networks to be metro-comparable," he said.

Optus' Managing Director of products and delivery told ZDNet journalist Suzanne Tindal that the continual outages and problems on the Optus 3G network were 'normal' and that all carriers have these sorts of issues.

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itd (New user):

"Optus' Managing Director of products and delivery told journalist Suzanne Tindal that the continual outages and problems on the Optus 3G network were 'normal' and that all carriers have these sorts of issues."

Outages are "normal" ???

NOT to a "normal" person

08 November 2008, 12:58 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

The federal government is investigating Virgin Broadband and Optus' network quality following ongoing press coverage of outages and poor speeds, and is considering whether it should exclude the company from the Australian Broadband Guarantee rebate scheme, ZDnet reported this week.

That is rich, considering "Cock-up Conroy's" renigging of signed contracts is directly attributable to some of the present bottle necks in the Optus 3G network.




08 November 2008, 10:11 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AndyCee (New user):

Best features:
1) Good wireless router included.
2) No landline tax
3) Allows me to have broadband in a house not enabled for ADSL (Bad copper).

Worst features I've encountered:
1) No internet access during a call (Not supposed to happen, but it does)
2) No internet access between 6 and 9pm. (High traffic time?)
3) Very choppy internet access during a storm.

Hopefully no new contracts will mean number 2 improves for the remainder of our contract. Err...or does that mean our service will stop too?



09 November 2008, 11:40 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting AndyCee:
Hopefully no new contracts will mean

Virgin Mobile spokesperson Amber Morris said the telco would continue to sell the product directly to consumers via its own stores, its website and call centre, but wanted to have full control over the process of checking a customer's coverage before selling the service to them.

There is not an embargo on new contracts just very strict control until issues are resolved. Optus/Virgin are taking step to control growth and manage new conections until sufficient capacity is available. I am not so sure about continued call centre sales being a good thing however. With call centre staff having a an incentive to sell and little comeback for over-selling.

Quoting AndyCee:
or does that mean our service will stop too?

Highly unlikely when new contracts are still being sold for the service.




10 November 2008, 4:00 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Trav (New user):

Optus' Managing Director of products and delivery told journalist Suzanne Tindal that the continual outages and problems on the Optus 3G network were 'normal' and that all carriers have these sorts of issues.

What a load of misquoting and misinformation! I expect better from you, Dan Warne.

In the article you conveniently failed to link to correctly Andrew Buay is referring to one particular base station outage in Sydney's northern beaches when he describes the outage as 'normal'. These base station outages happen on every network in every country in every corner of the globe. The major outages experienced by Optus in recent months have been described as once in a life time events by the Optus CEO.

Article link

Get your facts right buddy or go back to tabloid school.

Toodles.
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09 November 2008, 7:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Regular user):

Sorry, but no... have another read of the article at ZDNet.

http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Network-outages-normal-Optus/0,130061791,339292955,00.htm

The article discusses numerous outages and Andrew Buay refers to "a few incidents", not a single one specifically.

09 November 2008, 10:30 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Some areas are congested, yes... Which is a pitty cause the Virgin phone deal was good, especially for people living with some uncertainty about their accomadation.

10 November 2008, 12:43 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

aussietaff (New user):

Not really sure what Virgin are doing, Virgin Money is currently in the process of handing over the Virgin Mastercard to Westpac, which had only managed it in the past, It will now be called Ignite Mastercard

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