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Why we should be afraid of Google Streetview

Richard Chirgwin11 August 2008, 2:30 PM

OPINION | Google's Streetview, just launched in Australia and Japan, is creeping a lot of people out. And it should. Something's just not right.


So What's Wrong with StreetView? If you want to understand why “Joe Sixpack” might feel uneasy about Google StreetView, you need to do something that rarely happens in the IT industry. Instead of turning to the mirror, we need to imagine the world from Joe's point of view, with all his irrational likes and dislikes.

Whether all of the ordinary citizen's responses to StreetView are strictly “right or wrong” in rational terms, it's worth understanding the feelings that might provoke them against it.

So I'm going to try and put forward a few ways in which StreetView looks different to similar activities that wouldn't give Joe Sixpack even a moment's unease.

Alarming scale

Whether reasonably or not, people do feel differently about having the pics of their homes published worldwide, compared to any one person at any one time deciding to walk down the street and take a photo.

Sure, anyone could find someone else's address in the phone book (unless they use an unlisted number). Sure, you could go to that street, take a photo, and put it on your personal Website. But it's fair to say that Google is acting on a completely different scale to someone looking you up in the phone book: it's taken hundreds of thousands of photos, and instead of posting them on a personal Website that nobody looks at, it's put them in front of millions and millions of eyeballs.

And Joe perceives, reasonably or otherwise, a lack of reciprocity. What Google can do to you, you can't do to Google – which almost anyone will find emotionally provocative. This leads me to my second point.

Powerlessness

If an individual is hanging around your street acting creepy, you don't feel powerless to stop them. If a company passes by when you're not home, and later you find it's decided to publish the photo of your home on the Internet, what can you do?

Sure, you can “request” that Google remove your house from StreetView. There are two problems with this. First, after Google says “no”, what do you do? Second, as someone of my acquaintance has found, Google's response is likely to be in the very best traditions of American corporate bureaucracy: it took down exactly the one photo that showed one house from one angle – and every other photo in the street identifying the house remained in place.

Making people feel powerless — in fact, rubbing their noses in it ("Google hasn't broken any laws, what we're doing is completely legal, of course we will comply with any reasonable instructions, but in this particular case we've broken no laws and we're not going to take down the image you've objected to) — understandably provokes feelings of resentment.

People are especially touchy about this because they end up feeling powerless most of the time. Don't like the development application that the state government pushed through? Tough. Your suburb is going to be cut in half by freeway? Tough. You suffer from crap public transport? Tough. Don't like StreetView? Tough.

Google is touching people very close to their hearts, and people feel it's saying "tough" wherever it can.

Another point about powerlessness: from Joe Sixpack's point of view, not only does Google do what it likes, but it has a bunch of FWTs (fans with typewriters) who make fun of anyone who doesn't like what Google does. This may be unfair to the media – but it's when journalists say to the world at large “get over it”, we're revealing ourselves as out-of-touch and uninterested in how people feel.

So many aspects of the 'home life' have already been eroded that people have become very, very sensitive to questions of privacy: it feels like privacy is all they have left to them.

That might not be rational, but I don't particularly expect or demand that ordinary people are rational about all things. Nor is it fair to demand perfect rationality at all times, which brings me to my next point.

Fairness

If Joe Sixpack says "My kids' sports club has banned cameras because of creeps, but Google can do what it likes. How is that fair?" it's hard to come up with a response. Telling him “it's not fair, get over it” makes the commentator sound just as arrogant as Google.

And there are plenty of stories of people who have been prevented by security goons from taking "unauthorised" photos of public buildings (even though the security goons have no particular legal right to do so – for example, if someone other than a policeman man-handles a citizen without a really good reason, it's an assault. Quoth Joe Sixpack: "So how come Google takes photos of private homes, and nobody stops them, and we just have to put up with it?"

It's not fair.

Yet another example of how the public might feel there's something unfair about all this: if someone puts (say) the Opera House on a postcard, they pay a fee. Google's going to make money out of photos of peoples' houses and we can't get a fee. Fair?

So I think there is a at least a justifiable feeling Google is behaving in a way that a private citizen may not – and that this is unfair. Maybe that feeling isn't reasonable, but I'd bet it's part of the public psychology.

And we haven't even got to privacy yet.

Privacy

The commentaries I've read defending StreetView boil privacy down to a very legalistic definition in which every citizen who wants privacy needs to:

  • provide a fully rational explanation for their desire;
  • make sure that their explanation is good enough to stand up in court;
  • have enough money to win a High Court case defending their privacy; and
  • be prepared to endure public execration from Google's apologists (look at how IT press overseas is treating the US couple taking the court case against Google).

All of which, I 'umbly submit m'lud, is purest bollocks. I don't think every person who thinks "what? That's my house!" needs to be fully rational about it.

If someone wants a silent telephone number, they're not asked to provide a couple of lawyers and fight a case. I don't see why Google StreetView is different.

Now, I'm not expert in privacy law, nor the deep philosophy of privacy, but the "right to be left alone" (as some American judge once described it) seems to leave room at least for the argument that Google is invading privacy.

Creepiness

Away from the centre of the debate, out among people who aren't IT experts, the adjective I've heard associated most often with StreetView is “creepy” (and it tells you just how far Google has wandered from its users – what company would not be terrified to be thought of in such terms?).

The anonymity of Google StreetView – I don't know who took the pictures, they took them when I wasn't at home, and I don't know who's viewing the pictures – all of these inspire a feeling of creepiness about the whole thing.

Do people have to be completely rational explaining their feelings? I can't think why. And even if the feeling is irrational, it's out there. The legalistic and spin-driven responses don't make the feeling go away; in fact, they probably make it worse.

It's Just Like a Newspaper?

I have heard this kind of defense: nobody could stop a newspaper publishing a picture of their house, what's different about Google StreetView?

I can see a difference.

If someone's street appears on the front page (and it's not because of something like a particularly bloody murder or car crash!), there's probably going to be excitement at first — "wow, we're famous!" So maybe people are irrational, except ...

... your house doesn't get put on the front page every day, forever. Today's paper is forgotten tomorrow. And even online, the archives aren't universally available forever. And people don't search 100 years of newspapers to see whether Richard's house was in the paper once, and even if they find a shot from 1927, it doesn't tell you anything about today.

With no sense of newsworthiness associated with StreetView, there's no counterbalancing excitement; and there's no rollover of the content — Joe Sixpack's house is still there tomorrow, the day after, and so on forever.

And for all the “global” pretentions that newspapers give themselves, they remain essentially localised. People feel (again irrationally) some small sense of local ownership of their newspapers, and even global media know this, which is why state-based newspapers still exist in Australia.

The scope and scale of any newspaper is nothing like the scope and scale of Google. What's published in the Sydney Morning Herald is associated with a certain "Sydneyness"; what happens on Google has no local connection that the punters can see; and that probably feeds into the various other forms of resentment that people might feel.

Lame defenses

Really, most of the pro-StreetView arguments I've heard are really, really lame. Apart from "it's not illegal" or "it's really cool", what really strong argument is there that StreetView's right to exist is so strong that it trumps any objection?

Returning to the "Joe Sixpack" point of view again; if all people can find to defend StreetView is to parrot Google's arrogant "you can't stop us", then the defense just sounds like fans saying "hands off our toys"

“If there's nothing wrong you've got nothing to hide” has been trotted out in defense of StreetView, and here I have very strong feelings. This is such a creepy argument that I can't believe anyone but the most rabid, foam-flecked-lips jackbooted hoon of the Far Right even proposes it.

Privacy is not based on “trying to hide something shameful”. It's about trying to own and control some small piece of everyday life – and it's one facet of that precious diamond called freedom. The tyranny of surveillance is no less tyrannical merely because it's practised by a company whose founders were once geek heroes.

Google is a very long way out of touch with the ordinary citizen. It's huge, and it's still the default search page for a huge number of users, so maybe it can afford to be. But it's pure folly for media to make themselves similarly distant from the people who are our readers.

Google isn't listening to Joe Sixpack – but isn't it more important for the media to reflect Joe's life and interests than for us to reflect Google's interests? Or are we all convinced that Joe's small irrationalities and feelings and concerns are so trivial, and StreetView is so world-changing and important, that Joe Sixpack is just roadbed for the Google steamroller?


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agami (User):

I could write about it at length, alas I haven't that kind of time. I will say this though:

How most people consider privacy is outdated. It is a manifestation of our ego that places us at the centre of our own universe and the feeling that everyone else is concerned with what we're up to. The pinnacle of this phenomenon is expressed in the human's belief in a higher omnipresent power.

Secondly, the majority of StreetViews in any given street are vanity searches by people living in that particular street. Again we see the ego factor.

Lastly, the StreetView is a snapshot in time in one particular day of one particular interval (probably a year). Any person's house will never feature on the "front page" of Google. It doesn't display the name of the person living at any particular address. Nobody cares about our mundane lives, and if they did or our lives were semi-interesting to someone else, the lack of StreetView wouldn't stop them from finding us.



11 August 2008, 3:16 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Cooper (New user):

I only found out about streetview two days ago and I have already found a use for it. Two nights ago I was driving into Kings Cross for a night out, an area I hadn't driven to or through before. I then looked up an address for a parking station and got directions from whereis from my house to the parking station in King Cross.

I then looked up all the points where i had to turn on to different roads that i weren't familiar with on Streetview. Guess how many street names i had to look out for on the way... zero. Knowing what the roads and the intersections that i would be turning at looked like allowed me to pay all attention to the road and not to spin my neck around trying to find street signs. It created a safer trip for me.

I can walk/drive down any street on any day and see what is shown on streetview, it doesn't show peoples backyards and isn't high enough a quality to see any proper details more than a few metres off the street.

As said before it is a one off photo, not a constant surveilence of our houses, stop being so hysterical and worry about something that is worth worrying about.

11 August 2008, 3:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Chris (User):

I think it's a bit unfair to say that this is "Joe Six-pack" from my experience the average person doesn't care one way or the other. It's just that a vocal minority is making noise making it seem like more people care about it than people do.

11 August 2008, 3:54 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ian Wright (User):

People have a right of ownership over their own image and that of their property. I don't even like current affair shows that think they can invade anyones privacy and make money off it, let alone what the google borg is doing here.

11 August 2008, 3:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Ian Wright:
People have a right of ownership over their own image and that of their property.

No... No they don't. Google has every right to snap as many photos of your house as they want, and publish them where they want.

As for current affairs shows doing it... If it's in public property, then they also have the right to film there.

11 August 2008, 8:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

oldgra (New user):

stan
i have looked at a few addresses on steet view and it is plain that the photo`s are so old as to be only usefull in a gereral locality sense. as for privacy if you are in a public place then you should not be ashamed to be seen no matter where your photo appears/// it may well be that those people complaining have something to hide/// my only complaint is that no one has offered me megabucks to display my property ..i may save on real estate fees
to those whingers GROW UP ...

11 August 2008, 4:25 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Shorty (New user):


Are there not more important things to worry about. There will always be creeps in the world.
If you don't want to be seen sun baking in pubic, or in your P.J's then don't go outside dressed or undressed like that.
Some people need to get a life.
Shorty.
N.S.W

11 August 2008, 4:52 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Andrew Little (New user):

What makes 'Joe Sixpack' think he is even worth looking at? I put it to Joe that the only people looking at his home are people that he knows anyway.

As an aside, "This is such a creepy argument that I can't believe anyone but the most rabid, foam-flecked-lips jackbooted hoon of the Far Right even proposes it". Please. Notch up a point for objective journalism there, Richard Chirgwin. Way to go.

11 August 2008, 5:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Stilgherrian (New user):

There's a logical flaw, Richard, where you talk about looking up an address in the phone book. A photo in Google Street View isn't a photo of "Joe Sixpack's house" but just "a house". Yes, there's lots of them, and Joe Sixpack knows it's his house. But for those who don't know where Joe Sixpack lives it's just a random house. Nothing Google Street View does, in and of itself, tells anyone where Joe lives.

That said, I agree that the reaction is about fears, rational or not.

11 August 2008, 5:37 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bernard (New user):

but u look up the address in the phone book, then cut and paste that address into google maps. There are ways of preventing that, like getting a silent number.

However, that is not really the point. Previously, if I wanted to see what the xyz's place looked like, I would have to go there physically. Now it is possible to zoom right in from my 'puter. And spread that by doing something like this - which is a random intersection near where i live. But it could easily be used for less "nice" purposes.

Whereis already link in with (??google) map applications, so you can't say sincerely that "in and of itself" doesn't tell you where JS lives.


http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Wemyss+St,+Enmore+NSW+2042,+Australia&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=66.373614,147.65625&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,-33.899210,151.165949&ll=-33.895622,151.165781&spn=0.007801,0.018024&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=-33.899541,151.165775&panoid=Vf3hclS2FsagDSrEgod06w&cbp=1,203.34566840376922,,0,5>


11 August 2008, 6:27 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ann O'Nimus (New user):

I have found it useful when reviewing the physical appearance of a neighbourhood (I am an architect), although it is rather sketchy as the images are 6 months old. A friend managed to get the real estate agent to act on the remotely located tenants who had been parking their cars all over the front lawn, which was useful, but hardly world-shaking.

For all us architects and building designers whose work is perforce copyright, I suggest that Google has NO RIGHT to take economic advantage of that work, which they are doing by publishing streetscape and deriving commercial gain.

Any lawyers like to comment on this?

ANN O'NIMUS,
Perth, Australia


11 August 2008, 5:46 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Paul McKeon (New user):

I think Richard deserves to be congratulated. Though I don't share the privacy concerns about Street View that I know some have, I came closer to understanding them reading this than anything else to date.

Andrew Little, it is clearly labelled as opinion. It's not claiming to be objective.

11 August 2008, 5:59 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bernard (New user):

Richard - thanks for a great piece; I'm not surprised by the negative comments you have received back. Just because the CoolSquad like it doesn't mean that it is right.

I personally think that it will be very handy for a lot of things, however, that doesn't mean that it is right for it to be there.

We are living in such a fast changing climate of value change, I'm concerned that one day we may find that a vocal minority of change activists will have tossed away a number of reasonable rights that we have had.

How many people are going to plough their way through the ALRC report on Privacy - even the section on "evolving technologies", and those who do - how many will feel able to make constructive feedback.



11 August 2008, 6:06 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

nickobec (New user):

I am not worried about Google Streetview. How do you know who lives in a specific home. Well this big book that lists everybody's name, address and phone number that is delivered to everyone in your state. And the only way not to be listed is pay a fee for a silent number (sounds like blackmail to me).

Google Streetview is not an invasion of your privacy. It is combining of this data with the more invasive phone book data that scares Mr/Ms J Sixpack.

Being able to walk down any street in Australia virtually so the can see a destination they have to drive too, check out a suburb the are thinking of moving to or just showing friends or family where they grew up and the route the use to walk to school is something J Sixpack will be happy about.

The scary bit for J Sixpack is somebody looking up them in the phonebook, finding their address and using Google Streetview to find their house. Or somebody looking at Google Streetview, finding a house then looking up the house (that data is sold by the phonebook people) to find out the residents name and phone number.

Is the scary bit Streetview or the phonebook (and what people do with that data).

11 August 2008, 6:44 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Stilgherrian (New user):

Bernard, yes, you looked up my address in the phone book -- just like you could already do. How did Google Street View make this easier? It didn't. Yes, Google Street View then allowed you to find a blurry photo of my house taken 6+ months ago. Google did not identify the house as my home, you did that with the phone book -- and then you "invaded my privacy" by publishing a link to a street in Enmore.

Except that my address is already published online and is known to dozens if not hundreds of people I've done business with.

Your argument is a good one for banning phone books. Or people.

I agree with the commenters who are pointing out that there are far more important "privacy threats" to be worrying about. Real ones.

11 August 2008, 7:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Streetview Watcher (New user):

For all those people worried about invasion of their privacy....

I'm loOking at YOUR HOUSE right now!

Bwaaahhahhahhaaa...

The Evil Streetview watcher strikes again.

11 August 2008, 7:29 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bruno123 (New user):


Richard Chirgwin - your going to get many more of the comments like some of the ones previously submitted ("grow up" and "privacy is outdated. It is a manifestation of our ego".

I wonder what it will take for these folk to wake up to the constant erosion of civil liberties. Perhaps when we mash-up

Google maps;
the telephone book (and by the way, why do all those people have private listed telephone numbers - perhaps that should be banned - after all what have they got to hide?)
the electoral roll

Might be a good idea if folk think a few steps down the chess board... after all - whats next?



11 August 2008, 8:00 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

The Big Baboo (User):

Quoting Bruno123:
Replying to
Bruno123 Richard Chirgwin - your going to get many more of the comments like some of the ones previously submitted ("grow up" and "privacy is outdated. It is a manifestation of our ego". I wonder what it will take for these folk to wake up to the constant erosion of civil liberties. Perhaps when we mash-up Google maps; the telephone book (and by the way, why do all those people have private listed telephone numbers.

Not too sure about that "Bruno" but when I added an extra line to our home a few years back so that it would be easier to connect on-line,I found that our number had mysteriously disappeared from the phone book and nothing more was ever said about it by Telstra. Our friends have our number and no where we live and as for the rest pwagggggggggggh




03 April 2009, 3:04 PM (11 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bill Taylor (New user):

Paranoia, stupidity, mindless fear of the new, populism - this pretty much sums up the very dumb debate about the new GOOGLE MAPS. All those tired (and long defeated) arguments about 'privacy' are trotted out by the same unimaginative people. Frigg it's booooring!! If you cannot come up with a logically valid criticism then at least be abit innovative ...

11 August 2008, 8:09 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Zyais (New user):

Bill, under the convenient cover of anonimity, your insults can be easily directed towards those that had perhaps someting valid to say. Under certain social norms, verbal aggression stays in the same line with stupidity and paranoia, etc...
Are you asking about innovative ideas? Have you got any to start with? Bring that up first before insulting people that you don't know nothing about.
My house was photographed while my 77 YO mother was checking the mailbox. She was outraged when we told her as in this situation a couple of her personal and cultural values were basically stepped over and ignored. Unless we take her issues further, she does not have the ability to do anything about this. should we just ignore her because she is old and does not understand the modern world? Like her, all the other people that have someting to say against Streetview, in your view should keep quiet and say nothing?

11 August 2008, 10:19 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

oldgra (New user):

i once met a man with no shoes and pitied him until i met a man with no feet
there are people out there with horrible disfigurements through war pestilence or birth defects some never lived long enough to know the difference ..some live in hovels some live in castles others are more concerned about how they look to others whether it be in nightware /underware or for that matter anywhere.. me i am just glad to be here and if i embarass myself in public what the heck(sticks&stones)i`ll get over it if not then maybe i can find a man with no legs
the moral is do the best you can and to hell with the critics look around there is allways somebody worse off than you .and if all else fails stay indoors close your curtains and let the world go by (you`ll be the loser )

12 August 2008, 9:40 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DavidB (New user):

Rational or not, the fear exists. Perhaps fear is too strong a word. Of those I've spoken to, the ones who have an opinion at all feel mostly that something's not right. As Richard puts it: creepy.

It seems to me that Streetview builds on a general disquiet: it adds a brick to the wall; a straw to the camel's load. As has been pointed out, there are other sources of information: the phone book and electoral roll have been mentioned. Streetview adds another piece to the puzzle, which information technology helps to put together. Therein lies a problem.

In terms like "get over it" and "get a life", the technorati arrogantly dismiss that unease. Simlar behaviour by past eites led to pitchforks, blazing torches, tumbrels and guillotines. It will be interesting to see how the end comes for the increasingly arrogant technical elite.

To frivolously disregard what we don't understand or don't agree with is perilous:
"The people have no bread to eat."
"Then let them eat cake."

12 August 2008, 10:35 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

georgedarroch (New user):

What's the difference between what you can see with streetview, and what you would see walking down a public street? Nothing. Is this any more invasive than the right to look at things while walking down a street? No.

12 August 2008, 10:37 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DavidB2 (New user):

Rational or not, the fear exists. Perhaps fear is too strong a word. Of those I've spoken to, the ones who have an opinion at all feel mostly that something's not right. As Richard puts it: creepy.

It seems to me that Streetview builds on a general disquiet: it adds a brick to the wall; a straw to the camel's load. As has been pointed out, there are other sources of information: the phone book and electoral roll have been mentioned. Streetview adds another piece to the puzzle, which information technology helps to put together. Therein lies a problem.

In terms like "get over it" and "get a life", the technorati arrogantly dismiss that unease. Simlar behaviour by past eites led to pitchforks, blazing torches, tumbrels and guillotines. It will be interesting to see how the end comes for the increasingly arrogant technical elite.

To frivolously disregard what we don't understand or don't agree with is perilous:
"The people have no bread to eat."
"Then let them eat cake."

12 August 2008, 10:45 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

danerd (New user):

hi, i am joe sixpack and i understand this article completely and i cannot believe that google or anybody else could get away with this low dirty act to invade peoples privacy,i think it is disgusting and i think something should be done to stop google from doing this thing.

13 August 2008, 10:13 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jinzo.pk3 (User):

disgusting? how? did they sneak into peoples houses at night and take pictures of everyone's left toe?
What about tourists? If they were visiting your neighborhood and took a picture of your house, would you shudder? they're only pictures, I cant even tell which house is yours by looking at it. I would be more worried about those damn creepy Yellowpages ...... giving out everyone's names and addresses ....

13 August 2008, 5:05 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting danerd:
cannot believe that google or anybody else could get away with this low dirty act to invade peoples privacy


Public. That's where Google's contractors were. On a road. Do you get upset when a car drives past?
Perhaps if you really don't like people seeing your house, you should move into a hippy commune out in the middle of nowhere, and grew plenty of "shrubs" to block the view.

13 August 2008, 6:06 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

DavidB2 (New user):

Well Joe, it seems you're one of the few real-world Australians who's even considered the issue, let alone formed an opinion. Most of us (the majority of those who express opinions in fora like this one) tend to live in a techno-commercial fog: anything involving Information Technology must be good - particularly if there's money to be made.

It's an attitude not of Australia: imported from a dominant culture in which anyone who argues against a commercial enterprise must be a goddamn Communist - or a terrorist.

Good luck getting anything done against the imperial ideology.

13 August 2008, 11:16 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Jinzo.pk3 (User):

"it's put them in front of millions and millions of eyeballs." <-- unless you're in a landmark area or at least close to anything big, there aren't going to be millions of people looking at your house, millions of people will be able to; but they will have no reason to look at some random house they have no business with, people wont care that much about who they can see in the garden when they are seeing when their turnoff is, unless of course you pulled your pants down as the Google van drove past =P

13 August 2008, 4:51 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Sp33d d3mon (Cornerstone member):

LOL, what would happen if the Streetview car went past a nude beach?

13 August 2008, 8:24 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

steve78 (New user):

The same thing if you were to walk past a nude beach, you would see old fat naked people.

15 August 2008, 3:47 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

oldgra (New user):

good bye muggers rapists thieves and petty crims WE CAN SEE YOU hurry up google give us real time street view then we can monitor our surroundings as for the critics if you have something to hide then stay out of the public eye or abide by acceptable social standards

16 August 2008, 7:31 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Stainless222 (New user):

I have an unlisted phone number. I have never given my consent for Google Earth to photograph MY house. If by chanse my PSYCHOTIC ex wife finds out where I live and comes and trashes the house while I am not home, as she has done previously, I most certainly will SUE Google Earth.
And yes I do have the legal background and the money to do so.

16 May 2009, 3:01 PM (10 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Stainless222:
If by chanse my PSYCHOTIC ex wife finds out where I live

Best not have your name written on the front of your house, not only does this work with street view, but it is also a good general security measure. Why worry a bout street view, when there are bigger worries out there, such as aliens taking your luggage from bus stations.


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